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  • posted by  Fatty on 'Weigh in' thread
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    Hello Especially and welcome,

    I have read a couple of your posts and it occurs to me that the symptoms and behaviour – easting wise – that you speak of sound suspiciously likely own carb addiction and the things it did to me in the beginning.

    KEEP GOING… Promise you it will be worth it…

    To be honest I was struggling for a couple of week at the start – but by the end of the 8 weeks had lost count of which week I was in and now at 12 or so weeks it has all become a way of life…

    I am currently living Germany so walking past those HUGE bakeries with all their carb treats was TORTURE… and the smell of them still gets to me – BUT – I have tried a couple of carbs and they really made me feel AWFULL…. since not having them for so long… headaches, gut aches – the whole 9 yards… FYI the latest researchers are finding evidence that Sugar ( which is what low quality carbs are) is 8 Times more addictive than cocaine – Thats what your fighting!!!!… few more days and you will start to taste freedom .
    Keep up the good work

    Fatty (still a Bit!!!)

  • posted by  Not_thirsty on Gina's blog
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    Wow good start Gina – and to have hubby on board is a real bonus. Does he need to lose weight as well? My hubby has been a Type 2 for many years and does nothing about it but pop pills! He is not interested in even stopping all the Coke he drinks!

  • posted by  Epspecially on 'Weigh in' thread
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    Thanks for the inspiration Bruno and Eureka and to all the rest of you with the great weight loss stories!

    Reading the various threads it’s all really interesting to hear everyone. Was good to hear that other people found calories different in the recipes in the book as that made me a bit annoyed when I noticed the difference in Myfitnesspal last night – think it was mostly lack of carb irritation :-)))) On the plus side I had the really delicious feta and courgette salad from the book recipes – with raspberries – was really tasty.

    I know what you mean Bruno and decided to weigh myself this morning because as you said it might spur me on when numbers go down (hopefully!) As suspected, weigh good bit more than the last time I checked – just coming up to 14 stone :-(. Couldn’t believe it but there you go and more evidence that I need to do this properly. I don’t have diabetes but need to do something to keep it that way I’d say.

    Feeling a bit deflated today. Not even hungry, just flat feeling and light head despite probably getting more nutrition than usual I’d say :-(. But will just get through work today – it’s only the second day and you all sound like things improve very soon! Have sauerkraut and salmon for lunch and radishes and 3 brazil nuts for snacks. Don’t want to be wishing days away but just maybe for the first few :-))

    I really hope this works!!

  • posted by  Not_thirsty on How important is the water??
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    Thanks for your responses. Skywalker I wish I was a tea drinker that could solve a few problems but I haven’t found a hot drink I like. You are probably right Athorn223 if I get some lemon and use my hubbies sodastream it might make it more interesting. Maybe it will help me if I think of what Eureka said it is flushing away the fat!! I have been trying to drink more for ages but I just forget. I guess I will have to force myself to finish a glass each time instead of a mouthful or two. Today I had a 500ml bottle on my desk all day and nearly finished it ๐Ÿ™

  • posted by  guthlac on Great success but turning sour
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    I had great success with the 800cal diet. My weight dropped from 98kG down to 85kg and my HbA1c fell from 77 to 42. My lipids were also fantastically low. I’ve lost more weight and now down to 80kg but things are not looking so good. I was advised to stop my Sitagliptin as my sugars were so good. A week later and my fasting levels have gone from mid-fives to mid-eights. I’ve restarted the Sitagliptin but my B’S remains high. I’m quite worried by this. I’ve had an occasional departure from the diet but it hasn’t affected anything before. I do not want insulin injections or medication to increase my insulin production as I know this will worsen my insulin resistance. When I embarked on this I really felt there was hope but now I feel quite defeated.

  • posted by  Gina2555 on Gina's blog
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    So here I am four days in to the BSD and I have a new hero – Dr Mosely. I suspect things won’t always be this easy. My BGLs is now lower than when I was diagnosed in August last year. I went for a walk today, first time in months. I’ve lost 3kg and I’m not hungry AND my husband is on board and loves the food. I’ve started the Headspace meditation and I’m feeling more positive and hopeful than I have in months. I now have faith that I can reverse my diabetes. Side effects are that I’m going to look fabulous at my sons wedding in September and I’ll get rid of all the meds I’m on.

  • Week one complete, in the bag with no major mishaps – woooohoooo!
    Had a big steak Friday night but totalled my calories for the week and still was under the 5600 total so happy days.

    On day 2 of week 2 – still not lost anything yet but I feel so alive its insane! I had a really really late night last night – I work in research so sometimes fieldwork has me out till late hours – By the time I had five minutes to eat it was already 10pm and the only reason I ate was because I was 400 calories under for the day – lunch at 12:30….energy levels over the moon and stunned I was not starving and eating off my fingers! Glad I stuck with it – Thanks Rozy you were inspiration for my staying on the wagon! How’s your week going?Tesco trip was awesome – passed by the reduced counter and got some gorgeous SALMON fillets – was so thrilled! Also got some beautiful rib eye steaks – so pretty I wanted to hug them! Hope you had fun in the sun and your runner beans are doing well….have a great week and catch up soon ๐Ÿ™‚

    Lovely to see new names on here too!
    Hi all! ๐Ÿ™‚

    @barrelonlegs – This is wonderful to hear you’re motivated to give the BSD your all. Trust me once you get into week two you’ll have so much energy you’ll WANT to walk or run or jump or something. I was not motivated to do any exercise in the beginning – was feeling blah and a bit tired but now I sleep like a baby, up at first light and then just on full charge the whole day – I get home late but still have enough time to do chores and some yoga and mindfulness before bed. Waking up is a pleasure now because I WANT to get up and live. Yep NZ is quite a different time zone and you’re coming towards winter now which is fantastic as you start on the BSD you’ll be bikini ready by summer ;-). One thing that helps me on cold days are miso soup and my self made 25 calorie soup sachets of a quarter bullion cube, some seaweed strips and a few dehydrated mushrooms. Winter needs warming foods for me – makes me happy! ๐Ÿ˜€ Good luck and great to have you here!

    Hi Tibetan – How are you getting on?
    Slip ups happen the best thing I found is to be gentle with myself and i dug really deep to see where the guzzling food comes from – Its a work in progress but I have now realised I get sad (had a yukky emotional year last year) then i nomnomnom stuff food down and mentally in eating supress my emotions like the more i eat the deeper I bury them. I now let myself feel whatever I feel and am gentle on myself – also tell myself I live with shops and takeaways and restaurants on my doorstep – I wont starve there is tons of food around me so I dont need to stock up – I only shop enough for one week, keep no snacks in the house aside from Bottled sparkling water, one small 50g pack of almonds, chicken stock/bullion cubes, seaweed and one pack of dry mushrooms.
    My advice would be don’t push too hard or you set yourself up to fail – instead plan and organise your week in advance, plan your meals, keep a food diary, give yourself points for water had and steps walked – I’ve worked a points system where at every 10 points I put ยฃ10 away – either to spend on a treat or towards a bigger gift to myself.
    Every day where I stick to food goals I give myself half a point – water goals half a point, exercise goal 1 point. so ยฃ2 a day incentive ;-)….Just try new things and see what works for you and don’t beat yourself up – every day is day one of a fresh start you’ll get there! This group is amazing and have helped and motivated me to stick with it! ๐Ÿ™‚ This is coming from someone who threw out food then dug it out of the bag to eat!!!!

    @stephie63 – Don’t get angry with yourself hun, it will be ok – Everyone needs love, support and compassion to beat this – you need to give yourself that love and compassion too. Its ok whatever happened in the past is gone – fresh start and one meal at a time – dont think of deprivation or feeling hungry – I was eating 4000 calories a day before I started – put on 30kg in a year and was so addicted to carbs i used to dream of donuts and pizza and pastries – now I walk through Sainsbury’s and tell the croissants ‘You’re not the boss of me!’

    Like Californiagirl says you’re in good company, we’ve been there and thats what this group is for – slip ups happen its not about beating yourself up its about getting back on the wagon and going with it. you can definitely do this….take it from someone who started her day with a burger king double whopper meal with extra hash browns on the side and maple syrup…and full fat full sugar coke. Its thinking too far ahead that makes the fear feel suffocating – just go with it and say to yourself – i can have it tomorrow IF i choose to but for today i’m going to go with it. Also clear out all snack draws, crisps, bad foods etc if its there you end up eating it – I thought i’d never be able to survive without my two BIG bags of kettle crisps a day in the evening watching TV but that’s because I kept buying them that I was eating them not because I was hungry. Mindfulness is really helping me alot as well. before I put anything in my mouth I ask – Why does bumblebee want to eat this – bumblebee tummy are you hungry – bumblebee mind are you bored – bumblebee hands are you idle – bumblebee logic is it because its food time so you might as well??? Crazy as it may sound it works for me – just got to find what works for you hun and be gentle.

  • posted by  Stephie63 on Today is the first day of my healthy life
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    Hi all

    This is my first day of my second attempt at this. I just read Bills posts from This Has To Work For Me, and I can identify with that sentiment. But what a great post, so inspiring to read the frustrations, the support and most importantly the results from persevering. So today I have weighed and measured, and my fasting glucose this morning is 12.2. Normally I would be alarmed by that and console myself with a big bar of chocolate ( and I wonder why I’m diabetic lol!), but today I’m just viewing it as a starting point. I’m re-reading the book as I forgotten what I’m supposed to actually do, but I know it all makes perfect sense. My husband stole my Fitbit a couple of months ago, but I don’t think he actually uses it, so I think I’ll steal it back, and since it’s such a beautiful day I feel a long walk in the sunshine coming on.
    My eating plan for today:
    B – frittata and mushrooms
    L – quinoa chickpea and tomato salad ( 2 tbsp quinoa grains, halved cherry tomatoes, red pepper, chia seeds, small handful almonds and chickpeas with lime juice, chilli and hemp oil dressing)
    D – baked salmon and mixed green salad
    Plus lots of water and fruit tea for the cravings.

    Motivation is high today, long may it continue ๐Ÿ˜€

  • posted by  ay caramba on what exercises are people doing?
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    Eureka
    Love your replies. Fab…..u….lous.

    On the BHF MyMarathon site there are posts showing people …..wait for it……jogging….arghh!!!!
    Plus a wonderful one with photos of a dad/mum ??? walks with their baby in a pushchair.
    Cheered my day.

  • posted by  Eureka on Things I learned on the BSD, end Week 6 [ -20 lbs]
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    Hi Jackie WilsonSaid
    Good info. Ta. Am doing all sorts of things I wouldn’t normally do. It’s woken my brain & body up again ( about time).
    I don’t Twitter & Face book etc ( thought some of the stuff I’d heard about too nasty). But this is a positive, helpful & all embracing forum that has not changed its ideals since I first took the plunge on day one of it’s inception. My aim was/is to give sound info & sources of knowledge. We all want the same thing – Diabetes Reversal & good health. Make it so ๐Ÿ––๐Ÿป

  • posted by  Eureka on what exercises are people doing?
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    Hi ay caramba
    Finally did it ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ฃ๐Ÿง๐Ÿ‘ฃ(well, no penguins yet)!
    12,000 steps 16.5.16 โœ…. Total MYMARATHON steps = 73,500 โœ… (just a few steps over 26.2 miles for me).
    For a previously sedentary person ( with knackered knees) I’m proud to say the BSD ( & YOU) have got me moving again. And I like it! Will be sending a donation to the BHF soonest.
    We’ve got son’s dog for a week tonight so she will be taking us on a daily yomp.๐Ÿพ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿพ Who knows we might be doing another marathon yet!!
    PS. You can spell blonde/blond either way. No offence taken lol ๐Ÿ˜€ ( flicks non existing long hair)โ—๏ธ
    Thanks caramba. ๐ŸŽค I’m in the mood for dancin….Ooh from head to my toes…..๐Ÿ‘ฃ๐Ÿ‘ฃ๐Ÿ‘ฃ

    If I can do it, everyone can. Good luck ๐Ÿ€
    Eureka

  • posted by  Saga on The afternoon before the day of the diet
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    Thanks LindaA. Nearly 8 kg in 4 weeks is not too shabby ๐Ÿ™‚

    Thursday is our weigh in day (or at least we decided to do that every Thursday) so it will be interesting to see whether we’ve lost more at the same rate we have been losing it. Oh, and I’m also measuring the waistline every week. I definitely have a lot more weight to get off. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Eureka,
    Thanks. You can tell I’m a fan of mindfulness and am intrigued as to how well it fits with BSD.
    The on-line MBSR resource is stunning; it must have taken lots of work and dedication to pull all that info together and it references some of the best [American] sources. Give it a go if you like structure, or if not just dip into some of the meditation audio or yoga videos. Don’t be put off by the long Kabat Zinn Google lecture in Week 1. He’s the go to guru on MBSR but that particular talk is a bit dull.

  • What a fab idea with the post it notes. Am going to give that a go. Off to the shop tomorrow to stock up! Cheers for the tip.
    Stephie63 please don’t berate yourself so much for your eating. We are pretty much all here because of our food choices. We need to do this but also be kind to ourselves.
    I was once advised by a wise woman to give myself some sweetness in my life. What she means is that I keep treating myself instead of deprivation. Buy a nice bath oil, take time to sit down and read, just treating myself but without eating. It is amazing (when I do remember to take time for myself). It is so easy to put everyone else’s needs above our own that the time constraints and stress lead to poor food choices.
    That said I have once again let the stress get the better of me today and have scoffed down a packet of chips/crisps.
    Tomorrow is another day!

  • Ad libitum – to eat as much as desired when hungry.. This is the approach Bill1954 took! I have read his comment son the forums and he says he now eats so much less than he used to, as well. Perfect example!

    very interesting article indeed – it’s true that agriculture has developed (plant breeding and methods) for maximum yields/shelf life/conditions tolerance. These changes to the plants, and our subsequent processing of the grains looks like it may have been a mistake – but, food is important!

    no doubt highly processed tubers and fruits (to satisfy shelf life/transport etc) may still turn out to be an issue.

    I don’t think the world can go backward to subsistence farming, we couldn’t feed our population if everyone went paleo in one fell swoop. (yes, that’s the extreme and will never happen, but illustrates the point).

    On the other hand – the slashing of healthcare costs if those who could, did… would make it worth it and free up money to assist those in food deserts.

    great article, thank you for sharing it.

  • posted by  ay caramba on what exercises are people doing?
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    Just logged on to The BHF May Marathon challenge and spotted this quote on there.

    “Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.” – Edmund Burke

    Sorry ….I’m starting to sound too evangelical ……but it did feel rather apt in the light of my last post.
    Look after yourselves everyone.

  • I only read the abstract, which was fascinating in itself. My translation is that heavily processed Western foods cause inflammation because our gut bacteria are more suited to an “ancestral diet”. It is healthier to eat “a diet of grain-free whole foods with carbohydrate from cellular tubers, leaves, and fruits”. It seems to suggest a Paleo diet as being good for us.

  • posted by  LindaA on Glucose Tolerance Test
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    Hi Natalie
    Good luck with the test tomorrow, let us know how you go.
    I’m sure that once you get back on track with the BSD, you’ll start to feel better and won’t want to go through that again.
    Are you in Sydney or the country?
    I’m thinking of getting some Sydney siders together for some group walks over ‘The Bridge’ and through the Rocks.
    Cheers
    Linda

  • posted by  TrishaDawn on Down and Up
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    Hi, I have the same thing happen to me if I go off diet and have a high carb day. My weight shoots up the next day, and like you, sometimes even more the day after that. Then it can take a couple more days to get it back to where it was. It’s like I lose half a week because of one carb heavy meal. I just can’t get away with cheat meals, never mind cheat days. They just aren’t worth it for me.

    Sometimes you have to work out what works for you, as people’s bodies often cope with carbs differently. I like a diet with lots of beans and lentils, but have to limit them because of the higher carb count. Seeing the scales dropping make it worth while.

  • posted by  ay caramba on what exercises are people doing?
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    Eureka …….fabulous moves for a blonde ( NB …….I can spell really……Oops!!!)
    Finished your May Marathon already…..before you know it you’ll be throwing some shapes on the Dance floor…….no I don’t know
    what that means either?!?!?!?

    Wonder how many mute movers there are out there???? Closet readers of Forum posts who don’t write……yet!!!

    Come on…. there is still time to join a May Marathon challenge. 26.2 miles walking, waddling, jogging or staggering.
    Anyway you like….. for yourself….. or donate to The British Heart Foundation.

    Here is the Official Website if you would prefer to do this more formally with sponsors etc.
    https://mymarathon.bhf.org.uk/

  • posted by  gerryo on Down and Up
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    14 carbs in an apple,

    I drink water or tea no sugar.

    My soup has 127 calories will check carbs

    not giving up just a bit frustrated as I had a great drop in the first week then poof! gone.

    Cheers

    don’t like the headaches though

  • posted by  LindaA on Down and Up
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    Hi gerryo
    Are you tracking your carbs and fats and drinking enough water?
    I’ve downloaded the EasyDietDiary app which records everything and it really helps. Do you know how many carbs are in an apple? Heaps!
    Don’t be afraid of full fat products, don’t touch anything low fat or light as it’s loaded with sugars, keep your carbs under 50g per day, track your total calorie intake and drink 2-3 litres of non calorie drinks per day.
    Particularly on the first 8 weeks, you really need to stick to the plan as you found out the hard way, but if you do, the rewards are huge๐Ÿ˜€
    There’s a lot of us that have proven this. Keep reading the forum and get inspiration from everyone that is following the plan.
    Best of luck
    Linda

  • posted by  LindaA on The afternoon before the day of the diet
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    That’s fantastic Saga and Feltwicked, well done. A lot of us have found the same as you that the cravings and hunger pangs just go. I hit the end of 4 weeks tomorrow and am so far 7.9kg down and feel great. I’ve still got 12kg to go to reach my recommended weight, but I’m on this for life!๐Ÿ˜€ Keep it up.

  • posted by  gerryo on Down and Up
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    Thanks for that. just thought for a while that I had finally found something that would work.

    From Nov to March where the outdoor pools are open in Melbourne Australia I started to exercise concerned my blood pressure was going up. I swam something like 160Kms in that time. Ate moderately but could not achieve any weight loss.

    My blood pressure came out well.

    About the only time I have been able to achieve some significant loss was 20-30 years ago when I was running 30-40Kms per week.

    Having a hip that has problems does not help.

    I do spin classes now and then.

    Will keep trying and see how I go’

    I may have to change my current food plan as I may be getting too much carb from my vegetable bean soup. I usually have a boiled egg or an apple for breakfast, soup for lunch and a meal for supper no carbs water to drink , currently I figure this is less than 700 Cals.

  • posted by  LindaA on Day one, hunger/craving.
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    Hi Beth
    That’s brilliant about the weight loss. Keep it up! Is it getting easier to get your head around the food you need to eat?
    Yes, we Aussies seem to have a reputation for being fun to work with and being hard workers when we’re overseas. Shame a few of our local council workers couldn’t take a page out of their book. My weigh in day is tomorrow but I took a sneak look this morning and I’m 0.9kg down (1.98lb) so I hope it either stays that way or gets better. I’ll let you know.
    In Sydney it got to 27 deg c today which considering we’re only 2 weeks from the start of winter, is absolutely amazing. Lots of people out walking dogs and enjoying the sunshine.
    What are you studying?
    Cheers
    Linda

  • posted by  SkyWalker on Down and Up
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    Hi Gerryo, there will be many saying weigh less often, persevere, lots of exercise like that will build heavy muscle but in reality this is not an instant fix. The principles are sound so have confidence in the rest of us that have succeeded in losing up to 20% body mass in my case over 13 weeks. I wish I was strong enough to swim for an hour in any style! You will do well, keep going, we all plateaued at times it is normal on BSD/Fast 800 – you will soon be on 5:2.

  • posted by  SkyWalker on Exercise
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    If Calories in = calories out should we be static in weight terms? It probably is not that simple. Some calories are worthless or empty when eaten e.g. alcohol and some sugars at least in terms of nutrition. Exercise tones up muscles or develops them if they are seriously depleted. The benefits of exercise added to those of fasting are what is required for optimum health and fitness while we reduce blood sugars and body mass. It is not for ever that we are restricting calories so it soon may be easier to add treats after exercise but do not expect there not to be a cost. But wouldn’t it be great if it really were that simple?

  • So that is a light read for Hawks? The abstract from 2012 is definitely not an easy read for me given the language used but it is an interesting paper and states that it was not a funded one that may be significant or not. The line from the conclusions that “A dietary pattern with carbohydrates exclusively from cellular low-density sources may remove the root cause of a range of our most prevalent diseases.” could well be true. Hopefully the tide is turning but it is a slow process with many pockets of resistance to change.

  • posted by  Izzy on 'Weigh in' thread
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    morning all ๐Ÿ™‚

    well I’ve just finished week 4, and I’ve lost just over 1/2 lb this week. total weight loss 11. Lower than most but I’m still happy enough. It will keep coming off ๐Ÿ™‚

    Congrats to all on the losses, and any plateau-ers… hang in there!

  • posted by  Izzy on Izzy's 8 week diary :)
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    Today dawns day 1 of week 5, meaning I have passed the 8 week midway point ๐Ÿ™‚

    My weigh in this morning shows me down just over 1/2 lb for this week, bringing my total weight loss to 11 lb.

    I’m happy it went down, and I’m still menstruating so maybe I will have a better loss next week (hopefully). I have a long walk planned for tonight as well so hopefully that will help ๐Ÿ™‚

    I can’t do my measurements because my daughter borrowed my measuring tape and hasn’t given it back! I will do those tomorrow, and I forgot to do FBS, so all of those will be updated tomorrow.

    Todays foodies…

    breakfast yoghurt and strawberry

    lunch scotch egg, tomatoes, cucumber, chick peas.

    dinner cauli and bean soup, with a gram flour drop scone.

  • posted by  Saga on The afternoon before the day of the diet
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    Hi there,

    I’m the partner of feltwicked and thought I would update on our progress of the diet!

    It’s been nearly 3 weeks so far and we’ve been doing okay on the weight loss (around 5 kg for me after 2 weeks). We stuck to the menu plan for the first week, just to get the feel of the diet, and now we’re choosing things randomly from it and starting to ‘go it alone’ so to speak. I have to say that I haven’t felt intensely hungry between meals at all, or been craving for bread and sweet things (something of which I was slightly apprehensive because I just love those things ๐Ÿ™‚ ). The only concern I really have is not to go too far over the 800 calorie mark.

    Most importantly though, my partner’s blood readings have been steady, around the 5 mark, which is really, really encouraging, and his blood pressure has been in the normal range as well! Another interesting thing I’ve noticed personally is that my joints don’t feel as ‘creaky’. I mean it’s kind of like I’ve had a grease and oil change. Amazing!

  • posted by  Bissell on Exercise
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    Well, it’s a nice thought, but no. I don’t think so. ๐Ÿ˜€

  • posted by  Bissell on Glucose Tolerance Test
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    Well, at least you know that it’s the carbs that make you feel like that, so hopefully it will spur you on to greater things post test! Good luck.

  • posted by  Chongololo on Glucose Tolerance Test
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    insulin resistance makes you deathly tired, when I had this in my mid 20’s I would sit at my desk after a carb-heavy meal and literally my head falling forward would keep waking me up! It was awful, I remember the feeling. So those carby meals are entirely responsible – I’ll bet you’ll be glad to get back on plan and start to feel better and more alive again!

    I also didn’t know they recommended carb heavy meals before your GTT. WA here, and my endo just sent me for them, no instructions. I stopped seeing her a number of years ago (pointless to pay $$$ for a specialist to tell you ‘all looks fine, lose weight, see you next year’) as the resistance disappeared after a bout of weight loss and exercise in my 20’s and never really returned. Imagine what I would have achieved if I had been put on the BSD back then? Probably still not desperately trying to lose the last 20kg. and not crept into borderline and away from it a few times in the intervening 15 years… Oh well.

    good luck for the morning!

  • posted by  Alanhypno on Rising Fasting Blood Glucose Levels
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    Hi scan di girl do you put lower blood sugars down to this diet or the Acv ?
    As I’m in uk I couldn’t recognise the readings of 110 my meter is set to the 6s and 7s etc whatever they’re called
    Alan

  • Those sweeeeeeet shakes make you crave savoury, so look into getting some broths/consomme to ‘cut the sweet’ if you find yourself flagging, it will make it easier. (Optifast ‘soups’ are notoriously foul – try one before you buy more of them just in case…. some people like them, most people run screaming from them heheh)

    Also, for the calories, raw veg to crunch on provided the missing texture when you’re doing the shake thing.

    Word to the wise – drastically changing your diet and upping water can make things a bit – um – enthusiastic in the bowel department, (those shakes have no roughage!) so you can get badly stopped up or go horribly in the other direction. Forewarned is forearmed!

    your determination and support will see you do really well, I have no doubt!

  • posted by  Natalie on Glucose Tolerance Test
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    I honestly thought my constant tiredness was solely due to poor sleep – I have sleep apnoea and sometimes night sweats so I don’t get the best rest. I’d been feeling a bit better lately, but since eating lots of carbs again I can barely keep my eyes open after lunch time. It’s nearly over, GTT tomorrow morning.

  • Hi diary,

    late check in – lost 500g for the week, which was more than I was expecting to be honest, and it has dipped 400g below that in the previous couple of days too – all depends on how the fibre consumption goes if you know what I mean, I think ๐Ÿ™‚

    I went ‘off plan’ last night for tea, I had oven chips and sauce and veg. and a packet of jelly belly beans. The chips were sensational, the jelly beans much less so which was quite interesting. i REALLY enjoyed the first 5 or 6 beans, but then after that they were all just too sweet and it was mindless consumption. I threw the rest away in the end (I did make sure all the coconut, choc and pear flavoured ones were eaten first, I’m not a monster lol)

    anyway, today we carry on as per normal, which isn’t proving too difficult, I can sense how a cheat meal would set up a cascade if your resolve was wavering though – I’m just drowning myself in tea and water when my mouth says it wouldn’t mind some toast or something (smelling others cooking toast and toasting their lunchtime wraps/panninis etc is a bit trying today) I weighed up this effect and decided the ships were worth it. they were, but the jellybeans definitely weren’t – note for future self!

    something for those using my diet diary app – check the calories etc carefully on the items which come up in the database – I have found many many discrepancies – chobani yoghurt pots for one, and also the woolies select soups too – protein, carbs AND calories out in some cases!

    lets see what happens this week. possibly not much, but we’re due for a stalemate in the weight loss soon.

    ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by  gerryo on Down and Up
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    Was going great on the first 6 days lost around 5 pounds.

    Day 7 We went out for dinner had a glass of wine and some noodles Chinese

    Next day weight was up 3 pounds.

    The day after was up 4 pounds

    on Day 10 my weight was back to where it was before

    On day 6 Swam 3 Kms Crawl non stop 60 minutes

    on Day 7 swam 4 Kms non stop 80 minutes

    Very Frustrating as all except one day I kept to diet.

  • posted by  Olive Grace on Exercise
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    In my first week and just trying to recall the rules around exercise and calories. I walked for 60 mins today and apparently burned around 200 calories. Does this mean that I have just earned another 200 worth of calories I can factor into my eating today?

  • Hey Tibetan! Hey Stephie63! Good to have you here — you are in good company. We have all been there too — eating too much of the wrong stuff — it’s not a disaster, don’t panic, just start again tomorrow. I like to use 56 4×6 sticky notes, each numbered 1-56 and every day I pull off a fresh one, which reminds me it is a new day, a clean slate, and (if I messed up yesterday) I can start fresh again today. They are easy to carry, stick to my I-phone screen and I write down the totals in my calendar at the end of the day. Try to identify what is setting you off into the eating pattern — is it stress, too much alcohol, frustration with some aspect of the day? If you can identify it, you can neutralize it with whatever coping strategy works for you (for me it is a pot of hot tea, some time in the garden pulling weeds, shopping (non-food store ๐Ÿ˜„). One day at a time works — do not think about eight weeks, just think about this minute, today. Start again!! You will get stronger with practice. You CAN do this!! Lots of support here — keep posting.

  • posted by  Athorn223 on How important is the water??
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    I flavor my water with a little Crystal light or 0 calorie water enhancers you can find in stores, you could even flavor it with a little fruit or cucumber or lemon. Also, consider fizzy water instead of flat to make it interesting sometimes. I also use a 48 Oz water bottle that I only have to fill several times to get the recommended amount of water. Water is essential to this diet and flavoring it will definitely help.

  • posted by  Scandigirl on Rising Fasting Blood Glucose Levels
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    I have been on the 8 Week Blood Sugar Diet for 8 days and my BS have gone down from 180 to 110. Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar really works wonders. Dr Fung in one of his lectures recommend to drink 2 tbs before bedtime. I add a herbal ginger tea bag to the ACV and drink a warm cup. After two days my fasting blood sugar started to fall. It’s worth a try. The ACV has to have the “mother” in it. The mother is the strands of proteins, enzymes, and friendly bacteria that gives the product a murky, cobweb-like appearance. ACV is also helps with acid reflux.

  • (I am posting in this forum, because this isn’t specific to any one of the diet formats, and there isn’t another general forum, so I hope that’s OK.)
    I came across this article which is very interesting: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402009/
    It isn’t a very light read being a scientific journal, and doesn’t answer questions, but suggests further study is needed, however it does make some points that others might be interested in.

  • Thanks Eureka – yeah, already read Dr Fung also. I’ve been reading and studying for a while now, just nothing seeming to click, which is why I think doing the 800 is the next step.

    @captainlynne, thanks for the welcome and for explaining what you and others have done after 8 weeks. I guess I’ll know more what way to go when I get there.

    Right now I’m trying to decide if I wait to do bloodwork first, or just jump in. I’m kinda the impatient type when I’ve made up my mind – I’ll research things to death first, but then I jump ๐Ÿ˜‰