Hi Ruby, I still have 2 mugs of nescafe with a splash of milk every morning. I just prefer nescafe to proper coffee these days. I have still lost 3 stones so I would say do not go without your morning cuppa!!! 🙂

Hi all, am in week four, all going well with the occasional slip up. Probably more than occasional, TBH, but working on the mental health, not just the physical. Tonight I watched a documentary ‘Food, Inc’. Well, I spent most of the show between dry retching and crying. I cannot believe the propaganda behind the food industry, and how we have been so sucked into this system. There’s some discussion about diabetes and ecoli, and the crap (literally) that we are eating. If you get time, have a look at this film. I just think that while we are all working towards a new lifestyle we should probably look at the ethics of exactly what we are eating. Not preaching, just food for thought.

Hiya thanks all for your help, I am going to spend some time writing my new menus up, I was interested Bill1954 how can I track my carbs, is there a limit on how many low carbs I can have a day or how many I should include. Any help and advise would be gratefully received.

I always feel sick and miserable on day three. I say “always” because I’ve experienced day three several times! I fall off the wagon and have to go through withdrawal all over again.

Hello Natalie, thanks for your reply and great I’m pleased to hear it can be done with family in tow.
Thankfully I’m not a great potato lover, but pasta is another matter 😰, ah from now on I must think about my future health and my waistline instead. Perhaps when I’ve lost two stone I’ll award myself a small bowl of lobster linguine.

hello 🙂

I have just brought a fruit infuser water bottle thing and am wondering if anybody else uses these? I know calories will be very low but wondering about carb content.. any info or feedback greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I find that tracking everything I eat really helps so I’ve decided to use MFP. From what I’ve gleaned carbs need to be 50g a day, protein I think 60g, but I could be wrong but I don’t know the figure for fat, is it 40g? It all has to add up to 100% before it lets me save the changes. Anyone out there able to help?

Hi Judith,
We went to visit our son in Sheffield on Monday, he’s having an extension and his builder was there, type two diebetic, has lost 6 stone, still looked really obese, and he was sat there tucking into big white bread roll sandwiches and crisps, well of course we got talking and I told him about the bsd diet and he wasn’t interested! That old phrase came to mind, you can take a horse to water etc! However went to have a drink with his mother in law and she was interested in the diet, she isn’t diebetic just likes to keep a check on her weight and likes to eat healthily, so I told her about the website etc, so hopefully she will have taken a look and signed the petition, that’s all I can do, but it’s a start for her to look into it.
Right must dash, cleaned the hall this morning, a quick drink and then a trip into town to get Dana her birthday present, she wants a boy doll with a dummy, funny cause it’s an all girl family and none of them had dummies!
Christine

Hi thepolly, Have already had the delightful chore of taking loads of clothes to the charity shop………….I personally would rather have the equally delightful chore of buying new clothes – not many admittedly – but this gives me so much pleasure it is part of the reward of having achieved the weight loss

Thanks for the update on the latest info from OZ… numbers are really helpful to me. Have not weighed again since early april… so rely on BSL to see progress. Have started back on full dose of Metformin… will give myself a few more days and start weening again next week… maybe just 500 at a time rather than 1000 was getting too disheartened waiting it out… and we always travel on weekends and makes it harder to be under 800 but surprisingly easy to be no/low carb… under 20 most days now…. except for the veg load…

Still looking forward to coming home.. arrival date is now about June 29… and then I think I will go to the 5;2 again to try and maintain. Very sad to hear the latest about how our bodies really do lower their metabolic rate in order to maintain weight!!!!… POO… thanks Cherrianne… Hope you continue to be well and remain as inspirational as always…xx

I cook normal meals for my family and leave the carbs off my plate. I wrap my fajita ingredients in a lettuce leaf instead of a tortilla, I have zucchini “zoodles” with my bolognaise while they have spaghetti, I don’t eat the roast potatoes at Sunday dinner (that one is the hardest!). That way I don’t really have to cook anything different for myself, or different to what I usually cook.

Hi tallyhoo and aye caramba, why not make charity shops your new best friends until your weight has settled down, you can often get some lovely things for cheap and give to charity in the process 😀

Thanks Cherrianne. I will try the water and lemon! I have quite a bad headache and am feeling really low today. I am unsure if it’s related to the diet, because I have been doing 5:2 with no side effects like this. Maybe coincidence.

Can you not have white coffee? I still have milk in my tea, though I’ve had to give up the sugar.

Hi Brazil nut,
A small serve of cheese eaten very slowly, almost left to melt on the tongue used to help me through the carb cravings. Also a slice of lemon in hot water, not sure how that worked but it did!
Congrats on starting the BSD, you’ll soon start feeling the benefit of this great way of life. 🙂

Hi hashimoto, I’m not good at sticking at things so the ‘everyday’ of a diet will be hard. The thing I’ll miss the most will be a few white coffees, I think. x

Hi Notsofatty,
I was wondering how you were doing. Hi from not so sunny SA! You are missing cold, rainy weather with winds nearly 60kmh past few days. Not really anything to be homesick about.
If your post prandials are still in the 7’s I wouldn’t be too concerned.
Blood sugar levels as per the NICE guidelines (& Diabetes UK) are as follows:
Non diabetic
Fasting 4 – 5.9
Post prandial under 7.8

Type 2 diabetes
Fasting 4 – 7
Post prandial under 8.5
The Aus Diabetes Assoc. has levels higher than this so I don’t go by them.
Hope this will reassure you somewhat. It doesn’t sound like you’re doing too badly with your readings so you might want to persevere a bit longer. It took me around 3 weeks or so to get good readings after they spiked.
All the best to you, and David6855, hope for better news next time you post 🙂

Congratulations IonaJ,
You’ve just taken the first step and you can be proud of yourself 😄 Take it one step at a time, but as you’ve already discovered, this whole lifestyle is a lot easier in reality, so GO GIRL. Keep going, one day at a time until you’ve reached your weight goal, then keep going so that you stay healthy for you and your family!

Thanks Bill1954. I had a terrible headache yesterday but took some ibuprofen and another litre of rosehip tea and it got bearable. It was okay this morning but getting bad again now. I am drinking lots. I was going to go for a run at lunchtime but I did a 5k run yesterday lunchtime and I think that may have caused the headache. Partly anyway. So maybe I will just do a walk instead. I am feeling hungry today. I think 9am-12 is my worst period in terms of wanting to stuff carbs in my gob! I have been doing the 5:2 for several weeks before starting the BSD and that is my danger time. I lost 9lbs on the 5:2 so it was obviously working in terms of weight loss but I wasn’t changing my habits. On the other days, I was not sticking to the low carb med diet and frequently eating high sugar, high carb, unhealthy foods. This is why I thought I could kickstart a good change to my habits by doing this diet for 8 weeks, then going back to 5:2 but sticking to the low carb med diet on the 5 other days.

Does anyone know if rosehip tea is as good as water for hydrating? It just has 50% rosehip and 50% hibiscus. I find it easier to drink throughout the day than water. I often drink it cold.

Also, what do you do when you get the BIG cravings for food/carbs/sugar? I am just drinking tea and I ate 3 nuts. But I am struggling still!

Hi,

I am on week 3 – so not a veteran of the diet. I read through the book, checked out the menu plan, looked through the recipe section… then chose my own 800 calorie, low carb menu. Works for me – I enjoy my food, have lost weight and blood sugars are lower! It is much easier to follow if you choose meals that you enjoy!! Keep going.

Imogen

Hi Tippytwo
there is a much greater variety of menus in the menu section of the site and in the “what have you eaten today” thread.
All tried and tested by BSDer’s so there should be something in there that you like.
If you go your own way remember to keep track of the carbs as well as calories

My book is at home, unfortunately, and my Kindle won’t help you, lol, but there is a section in there that talks about the kind of foods that are good to eat – nuts (obvs watch the cals!), leafy green veg, lentils, pulses, beans, that kind of thing, and what to avoid (white rice, pasta, bread etc). I guess it’s just a learning curve, looking at all different foods and finding out what’s good and taking it from there. I’ll try to remember to look at the book when I get home after work and message you again! If you use My Fitness Pal, it should help you with the cals and nutritional info too, making it a bit easier.

Hope the rest of the week isn’t too ‘painful’ (know what you mean about waste!)

I x

Thanks Iona – what page is the list of good foods on in the book – do you know or is it on this web site. I don’t really have a problem with the food on the menus – it’s more the combinations of some of them lol. So I think this week I will finish off what I have bought for the week 3 menu as I hate waste and re-plan my menu for week 4 using the recommended food types. It’s a struggle for sure this week.

Hello
I would definitely try to find things you like and count calories – just try to find things that are on the recommended list of ‘good’ foods? But then, I guess so long as you stick to the 800/day you can eat what you like? I’ve only really just started (though have done the 5:2 in the past) and I am just making it up as I go along and picking foods I like.

It’s definitely better you choose your own foods rather than be put off so much that you give up?

GOOD LUCK!
Iona x
Ps – 11lbs is FANTASTIC!

I started the diet yesterday 🙂
For breakfast I had the almond butter, seeds and apple which the book states as 110 calories. When I measure the ingredients and put it into my fitness pal and Fitbit the calories come back as almost 3 times that amount (1 Apple alone is 75 calories, let alone 2tbsp of almond butter plus seeds).

So now I’m on 309 Cals just on breakfast according to mfp- help! Why does the book state much lower cals? And what can I do for lunch/dinner to keep in the 800 zone?

Thanks in advance.

Hello out there, I started the programme yesterday – a work day – which went okay and I managed to stick to 800 calories. Woke up feeling virtuous.
Today i am not working and have been lurking thinking, “mmmm usually I would have had a snack by now”.
I can’t believe it but I haven’t felt hungry yet, I guess that will come… I genuinely love (should I say loved?) food, everything about it.
I’m not diabetic but I feel way too heavy and understand that at my weight I’m heading towards the probability of major health problems if I don’t sort it out.
I have very active kids (all boys, they are always hungry) and when they snack I have snacked. Plus when they leave the delicious food I’ve cooked for them on the plate I eat it. I can’t help it, seems such a waste not to. I’ve got to break that habit because I’m fairly sure that is my main problem, oh and that i can’t resist anything with sugar in it.
I can be fairly strong minded but the issue for me is whether my willpower holds out… I can also be easily tempted.
Any tips please? I have a slim active husband and think I will cook carbs for him and the kids and just leave them off my plate.
Some of the threads on here are so, so inspiring, I hope I can do it too. I would gradually like to get to 9 stone (from 15) that will put me in the middle of my healthy BMI range – am I being too ambitious? Five years ago I was 9 stone 😮
Okay, I am off to get re-acquainted with my rowing machine, which I haven’t been near for three years.

Morning all,
Yes, yes, yes….!!! OK, maybe I did get a little carried away for a moment.
Amazon delivered my cuisique spiral making thingy yesterday. Last night dinner of courgetti, cream cheese, garlic and herbs was so delicious, that I was sure I would have put on weight just by inhaling. (I am working hard at breaking the ‘all fat is bad’ conditioning).
Sceptic that I am I felt compelled to get on the scales this morning, even though had only weighed in yesterday… down another 3lb 😀 Happy days.

Hi guys!!
I’ve been reading this great thread with interest for a week or so now and thought I would finally be brave and post! I have a lot of weight to lose (not quite sure how much as I haven’t DARED to step on the scales yet but I know it’s bad just by looking at my enormous tum in the mirror!!). My mum had type 1 diabetes and so I witnessed a whole load of terrible things as a child (loss of toes, ulcers, hypos etc) – she died when she was 50 after a particularly debilitating stroke. I was 19 and I’m going to be 45 this year and have been telling myself for YEARS that I need to get my bahookie in gear or I shall end up the same! I am not diabetic (as far as I know) but want to avoid developing it – so far I haven’t really been helping myself!

Last week I did the original 5:2 diet (which I have done successfully in the past) but also bought Mr Mosley’s Blood Sugar Diet book and have started thinking Mediterranean this week and aim to do 3 x 800 days. Yesterday was my first and it was perfectly fine. I did feel a bit hungry but it actually felt good (I’m weird!!). Today – so far so good. And will do Friday too. The schools are being used tomorrow for the Scottish Parliamentary elections, so I shall be out and about with the boys all day and so I decided tomorrow would be ‘normal’ but trying to avoid the ‘baddies’ food-wise!

Lucia – I was just wondering – how long have you been on the ‘diet’ so far and how much have you lost? I’ve been intrigued. Sounds like you have heaps of willpower and humour!! Been loving reading your posts!

Cheers guys.
Iona x

Hello, I just thought I would share this with you, as someone who has felt the same may be able to advise me. I am the third week into my diet lost 11 lbs so far. I am sticking rigidly to the menu planner in the book – come what may and trying everything out, but this week I have absolutely hated some of the menus, so much so I feel like crying – actually crying because for lunch today, I have courgette ribbons, raspberries and I couldn’t face the sweaty feta cheese this morning so threw it in the bin and added a few pine nuts instead. I don’t think I can carry on with the planned menus any more as it is making me feel sick. Should I pick out what I think I like and count up the calories ? dunno what to do as I feel I should add variety, please help.

Hi All, I lost 7 lbs in the first week and only 2 lbs in the second, It was my son’s birthday and I did have a slice of cake and a couple of glasses of wine but having said that we were away for the weekend and did some fairly strenuous walks and bike rides. The weight is coming off my upper arms and thighs which look more toned now, but my tummy only looks a little bit smaller, I take fairly high doses of inhaled steroids for asthma and I think this can have an effect on fat distribution. has anyone else had not much of a weight loss in their second week?

On the question of do we get more sensitive to carbs as a result of not eating them for a prolonged period. Its only my opinion but I think it makes sense that yes, we do notice the negative effects of carbs more. They do things to our bodies that we never knew because we have been eating them since we were babies. Think about this – your first drink after milk and maybe before water was probably fruit juice and one of your first ever meals was likely to have been pureed fruit! So its no wonder we never realised how they truly make us feel until we stop having them finally as adults.

I believe that not only will they make us more ill now than ever as a result of a diet like this, but also we will notice it more because we are finally realising what truly good health feels like.

Hi Bill – ooh, exciting! I will indeedy……….thanks!

Hi Tallyhoo
at this stage I think I would drop one of the Metformin. I did and it didn’t make a jot of difference to my sugar readings.
Just monitor your readings for the first few days.
First step to being med free 🙂

Yep, Bill!!
For all those who haven’t yet heard of or signed our petition just do it and get the word out there!!! 🙂

Bill I am still having a mare with travel insurance, now got a quote as ‘low’ as £250!!! I’m on my pc for one final search. 🙁

Instead of buying inulin, I am buying vegetables with high natural content of inulin in them. So we now eat Chicory Salad leaves everyday and I mix 2tsps of Chicory Root Powder with Fresh OJ. At least this way I can control what I am consuming and gaining the health benefits.

ooh, I’m gonna try that Bill.
Good your BS is back to normal! 🙂

Hi Beverley
Liked your post very much.
Think we need to be mindful of our own bodies. I echo some of your sentiments here.
Needed to lose weight when I started this diet ,at least 3 stone, to counteract the effect of Type 2 diabetes diagnosis and to be kind to my liver and pancreas. However as I was fairly active I still needed to do a range of activities.
Being active did not stop me being obese.
But my diet was obviously wrong and although I was going to classes I was probably not moving enough at other times.
Hopefully being conscious of all aspects of our health will help everyone.
Good luck everyone.
Make everyday count.

Hi Judith 6.4 today and 4.2 pre food last night.
Still don’t know where that spike came from, maybe I was invaded by sugar loving alien presences 😀
Yeah, according to the sites I looked at, roasting the flour first produces a more nutty than beany flavour and I thought that varying the herbs and spices would make the flatbreads more versatile to use with more meals.

Lucia – my go to lunch for taking to work is a salad with a quarter block of the feta style cheese every supermarket seems to do a budget own brand of. I have found the budget ones no less good than the normal supermarket own brands. The block easily cuts into 4, and it works out at 20p per lunch for the protein bit, and then I add whatever I have to hand – my favourite is chopped lettuce, tomatoes and cucumber, grated carrot, a few black olives chopped up, and then a dressing of 10ml olive oil, some lemon juice and seasoning. I have the dressing in a little pot so that the salad doesn’t go soggy. So as Judith says, cheaper than meat and just as nice.

And the best bit is that it still leaves me with a few calories left for a snack…

Congrats on the loss of the pounds!

Am back in work today, my mum is kindly doing ‘keep the granddaughter on an even keel’ duty today.

As far as I’m concerned my last tests showed that I was pre diabetic confirmed with the GP
If I’m told after my next tests in September that I am then non diabetic then that is what I’ll be and no insurance company will tell me differently.
If however I’m told that I am a diet controlled diabetic then that is what I’ll declare when buying holiday insurance.

Morning Bill, hope your fasting bs is ok now?
Roasting the flour first – now that is an interesting thought!
I made a batch the usual way last night and had a couple spread with cream cheese and lettuce as wraps then froze the rest.
Lucia if you haven’t tried them yet you should. I reckon you get about 40 from a £1.69 bag of flour. Plenty of protein and fibre and lovely with a veg curry. 🙂

I am on 2000mg metformin in the evening plus a pill for cholesterol and one for high blood pressure. I haven’t reduced my dosages at all. My fasting blood sugars are about 5.4 – sometimes 6 now that I’ve lost 2 stone 12 lbs. Should I drop one of the metformin or will this mean the bs reading will increase?

I was having a think last night.
3 years ago, long before the BSD, I was just under 21 stones. I was prescribed the exanatide injections which have the side effect of reducing the appetite and I went down to 16 stone 9 pounds which was my BSD starting weight.
Of course I’m delighted with the total weight loss but, the way I’m heading, I can equal the drug induced weight loss just by eating properly.
If I had that information from day 1 I would never have had to go onto the injections. Lets hope that the growing trend to low carb eating for T2D’s ensures that furure generations can be drug free from the day of diagnosis.

Hi Ay Caramba…………….I know what you mean about the clothes buying. My now baggy bum jeans are a size 14 which I have only washed once – don’t mean I’m dirty btw I just mean I was in them for just such a short space of time. I measure myself every month and am also amazed that suddenly, in the last month, my top half measurements have all lost 2 inches each – ie chest, waist and hips however my legs – knee and thigh haven’t – that may be due to loads of walking and muscle tone as they look much better but how I love going into a normal shop and not thinking people are looking at me and thinking ‘is she mad coming in here – clearly nothing in her size – get out!’ – my interpretation of course!

Morning L, Judith
I quite often have a vegetable stir fry flavoured with spices and soy – delicious.
Judith, have you tried roasting your gram flour before making flatbreads? It’s supposed to change the flavour.
I have this idea of roasting it with a few herbs for flavour and then whizzing the whole lot in the processor.
I’ll let you know how it goes.

Hi Tallyhoo

Absolutely relate what you have to say here. Many congratulations on your weight loss. I am on my 14th week as well and heading for a 2 stone loss of weight so I am really chuffed.
Can’t believe what other people think is a normal amount of food to eat and drink.
Clothes shopping is a bit of a nightmare. Great to be getting into smaller sizes but how long will they fit if I continue to lose weight.
The best thing my husband has said to me when I showed him something I liked on a hanger was ‘that’s a bit baggy shouldn’t you be buying something a bit more fitting?’ Of course he was exactly right…old habits!!!!

Hi Kris
those readings don’t sound too far off the mark. You will always have a higher fasting reading.
4.5 is well in the non diabetic range.
I would have a close look at the nutritional info on the shakes, to give a reading of 10 is unusual and I wonder what the sugar / carb content is.
Alan, you came off your meds from day 1 so perhaps your sugar reading will come down slower than us who reduced gradually, just keep monitoring them.
Kris, I’ve just felt my liver and can confirm it’s not fatty 😀 😀 😀

Hi all, thanks I will get Rose Elliot as apart from fish I am vegetarian. I posted the same question in Fast 800 (Carbs in recipes?) hoping that some of the more experienced people out there would know how many carbs in the recipes by heart…no responses yet but perhaps I can follow your thread and see what happens. My reason for asking is that I am thinking of moving over to diet as a way of life, not too worried about calories which I can guesstimate quite accurately through experience, but it would be great to have some easier way of calculating 50gms of carbs to which I need to stick – also one could mix and match the meals more without more calculations. I would much rather look up carb values in book!! (perhaps showing my age) I am having a go at “myfitness pal” which others use with great success and recommend. Would love to scribble carb values all over my recipes…..perhaps a good displacement activity though at present no time for such things. Having v little relaxation time is one of my struggles.! Good luck Tofa

Good for you, Lucia! A whole new world of food has opened up for you! Cheaper than meat days too! Xxxx