1. Lost another 0.5kg in the last 2 days
2. I’m in a suit that I haven’t been able to wear for ages (and if anything it’s now too big!)
3. I was given my weight in patisserie* yesterday and I didn’t eat any of it!

*I’ve just built a website for one of the worlds biggest patisserie producers and every time I go there for a meeting they give me as much tempting food as I can carry!

Hi Rhodie, not to worry about high jacking my post ! I don’t think it works like that on here, it’s just a free for all ! Glad to see you are doing well ! I’ve got my wife’s birthday tomorrow, so not a problem as far as my wife is concerned, as she’s 100% behind me on this plan, but when the family come round tomorrow night then it may be a bit tricky ! I’m really not going to get into the merits of this plan with non believers,
my mother in law is a prime example, she just keeps offering cake etc. If I was you I’d just say that you’re reducing your sugar as people are just starting to realise that it’s not good for them ! Also, you could just say you had a big lunch with friends etc and you’re still stuffed ! It’s the trickiest part of this plan, dealing with others, so best of luck, let us know how you get on !!

Hahaha brilliant! The singing peach sounds promising… although, there was a red wine and drinking a bottle of Archers after it incident years ago. I was sick in my shoes. I still shudder when I smell peach.
You’ll probably get what my user name is then, if you’ve been to Japan – I collect them. I’ve got… 24 and a necklace, and a keyring and a cross stitch and a car sticker. I’m obsessed with the buggers. Workmen came one day and I heard them say it was creepy, they’re all over my kitchen. I like them, and I’ve been really lucky since I started collecting them so… pffffft to them.

the japanese do what we call freaky pop !! we went there a couple of years ago and my hubby loves their pop you get allsorts of flavours problem is you have no idea what cos its all in japanese !!! today i have bought something called royal milk tea ( it looks like cold weak tea but taste like tea made with sterilized milk!!!)
and two other bottles one has a singing peach on it and the other a dancing mint leaf !!!! yep go figure !!!!

Hi Doushie – have you bought the book? It has some great, tasty and easy to prepare recipes in the back. Also has a plan for 4 or 5 weeks that you can follow – means you don’t have to think too hard about what to eat. I’m on week one and a real foodie and have really enjoyed the food from the book.

Hello Tokyo, I haven’t got round to it yet. I been making pie 🙂 Plus, I need my personal Gok with me (husband) to give me his honest opinion. He’d best not have bought a caravan or I’ll go mad.
What is mad pop???

Hi wonder if anyone can advise? I have been doing reduced carbs for a couple of weeks. Unfortunately my problem is that I just feel so awful, shortness of breath and spacey/dizzy. I find the shortness of breath really quite frightening, would be gald to hear if anyone else has experienced this or can say how long it might take for this to ease off?
Kit

i am returned without needles !!
have i missed your cinderella monent lucky how did the clothes trying go ?
i am just having lunch of mackeral strip salad ( get me !!) and then i am entering the kitchen for baking of the cookies !!!!
are the bad ladies scaring you timmy ?
i would be scared very scared !!!!!!
enjoy the cheesecake janey
i have been to a chinese supermarket whilst out but nothing that i could see as low carb although i cant read chinese doh !!!!!!! so i bought mad pop for hubby !!!!

Jill and Timmy – good advice – will give that a go and see what happens.

Seadog – many apologies seems I have hijacked your post – still getting used to this website – probably should have started another forum.

Pie update. Pastry rolls fairly well. Decided to make two large pies as opposed to four smaller ones, and they can be shared. A respectable (for a pie!) 455 calories. Not great when you’re eating 800 in a day, but with a mound of vegetables and a vegetable soup for lunch, it’s very do-able for when I get the pastry urge. I was going to cook some off first but there wasn’t enough to spare… so if anyone’s interested in how the pastry looks (yellow) (ish)…

Ooops didn’t realise it would shove the whole twitter thing in the post! Aaaaaaargh. I didn’t know you could put pictures in posts??? Ah well. It looks yellow.

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the advice – much appreciated.

I’ve never seen this doctor before, but was told how good he was (he’s from another surgery in a neighboring parish – but they’ve now taken our over practice also). He’s one of those good old fashion doctors who’s got the time for his patients. I went with another problem, but he made me feel so at ease that I was able to talk to him about my weight issues. He said he’d tried the diet himself, and was so impressed by it, that strongly recommends it, and he has referred the plan to three other patients recently, all of whom are doing fantastically.

I myself on the other hand is another matter. I started out this week really well, however for the last two days I’ve struggled and I’ve given in to both cake and bread. I know why (problems at work) but I just can’t seem to stop myself. I really struggle to manage my emotional comfort eating. Does anyone else suffer from this, or have any ideas on how I can combat it?

Also, I’ve tried looking for recipes books which would be suitable for this plan – I’ve printed off the recipes on here which take my fancy, but sadly its not many. Can anyone recommend any recipe books?

Well people do have different tolerances to different types of carbs, so you could say that you are being tested as to which one so you need to abstain from carbs for a bit.

How about saying you have a carb intolerance – doesn’t sound too much like a diet!

Hi Rhodie and welcome!

Re losing weight from various parts…..if you stick to the 800 calories per day, and keep the carbs low, with no refined carbs like sugar, pasta, rice, potatoes, root veg etc., then you will lose weight.

However, this is an interesting diet as it resets your hormones and clears not only the subcutaneous fat (the bit you can see) but also the visceral fat (the dangerous stuff round your internal organs). So it’s a great idea to measure yourself as well as weigh, because it seems sometimes that the weight stays level whilst the waist measure (amongst others) goes down.

And, sad to say, the bit of subcutaneous fat below the belly button seems to be the last to go. I have done my 8 weeks, lost 19lbs and got down to 9st lbs (my initial target was 9 stone, and I’m persisting till I get there), but the little ‘belly wedge’ is still stubbornly there.

So yes, you will lose the weight from your hips/thighs, but you may see more effect elsewhere first! 🙂

With regard to your tea party, not sure how you can do that politely – have a slight tummy upset and say that you’re sticking to tea/drinks this time, as you don’t want to risk the beautiful cakes?

Strangely enough I find that after a glass (or 3) of wine I actually weigh much less in the morning! But this is only if I’ve abstained for a few days first.

If I were to drink every night then I would either be static or the weight would go up.

MAKE SURE IT’S DONE BLOODY RIGHT THIS TIME!

Ladies, I err, need to go and do the, err, thing. Yes, the thing…….. (slowly backs out of the room then runs for his life!!)

I have two Janey, we’re a family of 6 lol. An upright and a chest freezer. Before my BSD days I used to batch cook a lot, I need to start doing that again.

Pastry is made! Pie filling is made! Pastry is… not unbelievably sticky but one could imagine it sticking stone to wood. If my husband sees it he’ll no doubt find some DIY use for it. Better bake it asap and then give my opinion! Was simple though, if it works, whizz flour, salt, olive oil and water bit by bit until it comes together.

Yayyyyyy! PMT! I think my PMT is due any time soon, how wonderful! (Timmy, hide) We can be homicidal together 🙂

Oooooh you’re brave, but enjoy what you do eat of it. If you don’t enjoy it, it’s not worth eating it, is it? That’s the way I’m looking at it. If I’m going to feel guilty eating it, then I don’t want it.

Hi there everyone – I am a July starter (currently on day 4) and am really encouraged by the losses that people are having. I find it extremely encouraging and motivating too to read everyone’s comments. I have a couple of questions – I am doing the 8 week 800 calorie BSD and do have a certain amount of fat round the tummy region, but most of my weight is around hips and thighs (classic pear shape) – will this diet help get rid of the excess down below 🙂 ? Also, we are going to a birthday tea party this weekend which is sure to have lots of carbs, how do you politely say no without sounding like a fussy eater and admitting that you are on yet another diet (blush, blush). I am a classic yo yo dieter and having reached an all time low (and high weight wise) really want to lose the excess as soon as possible. Thanks

Hi Timmy

Yes I’m sure that Grey Goose would do the trick!! We only have Smirnoff Blue here but I’m really a red wine girl anyway!!

Do you find a difference in your weight loss when you have the odd lapse? I guess as you say ‘everything in moderation’, seems like a good rule. Mind you at the moment I can’t get the picture of doughnuts in my wine glass out of my head!!

Verano

I honestly believe you must have a freezer bigger than Iceland! All these goodies being squirrelled away!!!

I have PMT today and my boss is running scared. He has bought us both a slice of chocolate cheesecake, ostensibly as a celebration for our half year results but mainly to placate my homicidal tendencies. I’m not particularly keen on eating it but I may have a little….

Hello – can anyone out there tell me – with the no-carb bircher recipe, do you pour away the apple juice or eat it? Thanks!
Jill

I was discussing them with the boss (ha!) last night and like I said, the wraps are like pancakes, aren’t they? So it makes sense that the batter would (should) produce something like a yorkshire pudding. I won’t risk trying them the first time when I’ve got a roast, I’ll do them before and if they’re ok, I’ll freeze them.

I saw something else last night, soaking raw poppadoms for a few seconds in water so they soften and using them as a spring roll wrapper. As long as you make sure they are the gram flour ones, I think some use rice flour. Looked interesting anyway.

Gram flour yorkshires are a game changer! Defo trying them when I next have a roast.

Hi Christine
How did your celebratory dinner go the other night? Still feeling better?
Cheers
Linda

Don’t they look amazing, Epspecially? I’m trying the pastry in a bit too (making it, not eating it!) I’ll bake a little bit to try and if it’s ok, I’m going to make mini pies with it and freeze them. If not, the pie filling (which is like Shepherd’s Pie) can have mashed cauliflower on top instead. Win win. I am really intrigued by the Yorkshire pudding though, now, if that works, it puts a different slant on having a roast dinner! Can you tell I’m more savoury leaning than sweet? 😉 Although I would definitely have a nibble at least on a chickpea cookie, just to see 🙂

oooo wish I hadn’t spotted that photo of those chick pea cookies!! Will be looking foward to an update – though probably better for me if they are strange more than delicious so I wont be tempted to make :-))))

Breakfast: 1 egg, 2 rashers, piece of white pudding, of black pudding, half an avocado (still had visitor and was avoiding the bread..worked out this was 524 calories – really wouldn’t advise this combination for anyone!! :-))

Lunch: Big green salad of kale, corriander, spinach, parsley from garden, and bit of a nori sheet

teaspoon of sunflower seeds for snack +one piece of 90% chocolate

Dinner: Small portion of homemade bolognese sauce,
28g of fage yoghurt with some cinamon in it.

Managed close enough to 800 calories so back on track. Am noticing how the weird feeling behind my eyes is back again today. Had this for the first week starting out, and it disappeared but it looks like a few too many carbs the day before yesterday and it’s back a few steps – though it’ll be gone soon! Forwards and onwards again! 🙂

Hi Poppy, I am type 2 (diagnosed for 10 years), I take long acting insulin in the evening plus 3 diamicron tablets in the morning. The reason I inject is because I suffered from chronic and constant tummy troubles on oral meds. Obviously my b/g is going to be low on 800 calories but I also have a swim most afternoons and I didn’t want to fall back into relying on things like bread or high sugar juice. I think I probably did the right thing by having some ham and strips of red pepper. Checking through a list of complex carbs I now know I can turn to a small greek yogurt with a couple of prunes. Obviously, I keep checking until it passes. The funny thing is when I had my only hypo in 10 years my b/g was 125 (6.9) so there is no accounting for how your body can react. Fortunately, I can recognise the signs that I am low before it goes too far and I am able to react immediately, either at home or with my emergency supplies in my handbag.

On your last point about reducing meds, this is my aim and I have gone from 37 units to 35 last night in one week and will further decrease by one unit every few days if I continue to see such good results. I see my doctor in 5 weeks and hope to have greatly improved my HBA1C from 11.2 a year ago, to a more normal range.

Thank you for replying.

I love it! Cinderella moment 🙂

I used to read Mallory Towers too, not so sure on the other ones. They don’t ring a bell, I’ll have a look after see if I can refresh my memory. There were so many books. Happy days.

Good luck with your acupuncture 🙂 I’m going up!

well done timmy everyone having a ” cinderella” moment ( i have no idea why i call it that but i am sticking to it !!!!!!
cant wait to hear bout your clothes trying on lucky
and for info i am making cookies this afternoon so will post results in the league table of bsd ( bloody strange / delicious? !!) do you see what i did there !!!!
i too am not welsh as mentioned yesterday BUT i used to be dragged on holiday to a farmhouse just outside pwillheli and my favourite place was llanbedrog ( excuse spellings !!) because it had a shop that sold and i am not making this up enid blyton books my favourite were the books about mallory towers and was it st clares i think! so thats my link
aa timmy would say BOOOOM. off to have accupuncture now oom !!!!

I think they’ve been reprinted now, with Jo, Beth and Frannie. And cousin Dick is now cousin Rick. Phew.

Oh you must go on a spreeeeeeee! You’ve earned it!

Narnia, eh? This could be interesting… I’m going to just finish off down here and I will multitask, trying clothes on while cleaning bathroom and keeping too-big clothes 🙂

Morning Janey! Oh my God, you just reminded me of something there. When I was young, I’d say 7 – 9, I was (and still am) an avid reader, and my Mum used to buy me a hardback Enid Blyton book every time one came out, and I built up a lovely little library. Brer Rabbit. Amelia Jane. The Naughtiest Girl in The School. And then there was a series called The Faraway Tree. My favourite. Remember that? Anyway. After I grew up, my Mum passed them down to my cousin, with the instruction to look after them, as she wanted them to go to my children when I had them. The time came. My youngest three sat on the bottom bunk, ready and waiting for me to start reading a few chapters of my favourite. I didn’t get many pages in, because the children were called Jo, Bessie and Fanny. My children were crying tears of mirth, I was crying tears of frustration. I have up after about ten pages. Thank God I didn’t get around to when cousin Dick visited, is all I can say.

Hi Custarlover –
I know you have an issue with your OH tempting you with sugary ‘treats’, so if you can’t resist the sugar completely, perhaps you can make an effort to reduce the amount of sweet stuff you take in. Do you think you can cut out the potatoes, rice, pasta, bread, etc. ‘cos that would be a great start. Then try to cut out cakes, biscuits etc., but maybe allow yourself a low carb pancake, with a few berries and a little drizzle of honey? It might perhaps a way to ease into withdrawing from sugars and you can eventually leave out the honey – maybe swap it for cream.
I’m sure you can do this, it’s just a case of finding a way to make it work for you. Once you start to see results, you will find it easier to forego the cakes and stuff.
Good luck – keep us posted and remember we are here to offer support.

By the way, I’m NOT Welsh but I have been to Wales.. does that count??!

‘Louise’ signing in.. good morning Thelma, Brenda and Timmy (it’s beginning to sound like a Famous Five book.. all we need is a Fanny… STOP) Great to hear that you are all rapidly reducing people (not as in dwarves) 😀 As you all know, I do not weigh but I looked at myself in the mirror in my underwear last night and realised there’s a lot LESS of me than there was 2 months ago!! Happy dance on the landing! Some clothes are actually beginning to look a bit silly because they are hanging off me! I’m resisting the temptation to SHOP, SHOP, SHOP but it is my birthday in a couple of weeks and my boss confirmed I hit my half year bonus this morning so maybe a leeeeeeetle trip out……

Timmy – salt in the cookies?? I must’ve missed that because I put none in at all! That was a costly trial for you then 🙁 The über choccy cookies that Tokyo found online look the business.. I may try my hand! Josie – preserved lemons?? Just.. why??? I think I have seen one recipe ever that requires them???? I challenge you to use the jar up before, say… 2020!!

Lucky – sod the ironing and go and try clothes on. We need to know how they’re fitting! 2 st and several inches off will have to open up many more options in the wardrobe for you.. like Narnia???

I’m a hybrid too, Welsh Mum, English dad. Sais-land 😂👍🏽. I did a stint there but home is where the heart is. I go back to Manchester for gigs (concerts really, but I want to sound hip 😂) but there’s no way I could live in a big city again. I’ve never been to South Wales which is pretty shameful really.

Yeah I’m a Jack. Really speaking I’m a mixture of everything. Born in Scotland to a Scottish mother and Welsh father. Moved back to Swansea when I was 4. Grew up there so I consider myself 60% Welsh and 40% Scottish!

Moved to Sais-land when I was 19 and have been here for the last 20 years! So I’m a true Brit.

Not that I’m a Cymro, mind, I’m a Cymraes 😛

I find giving up the wine (and beer, and cognac, oooh and cider and gin and ….) the hardest too. I can be impeccable with my eating, but then every so often a bottle will disappear! Like last night for instance.

If you really do “need” to have the odd drink, then I believe the slimmest drink is vodka and slimline tonic. You should specifically buy grey goose vodka, because not only is it the nicest, but it has the least impurities of any other vodka.

Everything in moderation of course!

Are you another Cymro Timmy??? Ychafi??? That made me smile 😀 Great that the cookies worked eventually, just a shame all this trial and error is so costly! Did you see the ones Tokyo posted last night, the chocolate chickpea flour ones???? Holy pooballs they looked lovely, although they do say we eat with our eyes.

That’s absolutely fab news about all your clothes, between you and Tokyo, you’ve (almost) inspired me to go up to my bedroom and raid my wardrobe now they’ve all gone caravan hunting. The only problem is I have loads of ironing to do… What’s that? It can wait because I may be ironing clothes that don’t fit anymore and will only end up going to the charity shop? Oh, ok!

It does really work. It does. Not yet four weeks in and nearly 2 stone down. It’s the stuff of fairytales.

Well I tried the paleo cookies to the recipe. Ychafi! Salty much!!?? They went straight in the bin. I remade them with the tinniest pinch pf salt and they were lovely!

In other news, on my way home yesterday something possessed me to do up the top button of my shirt. Normally this would be quite restrictive, but to my delight there was room for a few fingers in there! Inspired I tried on a suit that I haven’t been able to wear for about a year. Would you believe it, not only do I fit in it, it’s too bloody big! Again inspired, I tried on the suit that I’ve never worn, and that just about fits too! It’s a little on the snug side, but only just, so I reckon I’ll be in that for sure by mid summer.

I also tried on the tux that I bought for honeymoon. It was too tight really, but I ACTUALLY MANAGED TO GET IN IT!

Well chuffed. This really works. I’m 0.5kg down today too.

BOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

oh bless you and thank you SO much for your encouragement and praise
and for working out that percentage!!
it looks good doesn’t it

those demons will have to bite another day because today I am happy
and although I could still happily munch through lots of digestive biscuits – none are coming into my home!!!!

Hi everyone. Day eight (I feel like the big brother commentator). Hunger has gone. And so have the cravings. Went out for coffee yesterday and didn’t even consider eating the little biscuit on the side of my saucer. Only had 400 calories yesterday. Can’t quite believe it. I meant to eat in the evening but wasnt really hungry and then ran out of time.

I will ensure I up the calories today to ensure I get proper nutrition. I have had breakfast today which I don’t normally.

6 1/2 pounds gone. Hopefully never to return.

Dates???? No thanks lol. I’m not sure about Davina, she doesn’t seem too bad, just churns out DVDs every year or so, doesn’t she? I think I bought one from Poundland once, and I did ten minutes then sat watching the rest of it with a kebab and a bottle of wine 🙂 Not joking 🙂

Hi Ruth

Well done! Guess it’s just one day at a time. Funny how we would never think of eating 4 doughnuts but red wine slips down so much more easily without too much thought! Maybe that’s the secret … think a bit more!

Verano

What I do is take them, upload them to my pc and rename them, and the file extension 😉 So if someone were to find my pics on my computer it might say ‘Chickpea flour wrap 1.doc’ but really it’s ‘Underwear pic week 1.jpg’. Then delete from your phone (and cloud if it’s on there 😉 ) When you want to look at them, just rename the file back to .jpg 🙂 Sorted!

your braver than me taking underwear pic!! i have visions of taking them on my phone and pressing the wrong button and sending them to the whole universe !!!! can you imagine !!!
i think the weight loss you have achieved is amazing better than this bunch in lorraine !!! bikini plus one shes just feeding them dates !!!!!! omg now davina mcall is on now about weight should she join the paltrow cotton club?

Yay, keeptrying! Fabulous stuff, 2 and a half stone, and under 13 stone! What great results!

You need to tell that little inner demon which keeps comparing yourself to other people here to get on its bike and cycle off (insert suitable alternative words), as it is YOU doing this, and your body has its own agenda for reasons. You may not know what those reasons are, but trust it.

That little inner demon is also suggesting to you that you will fall off the wagon – well, what you know now is that if you fall off (and we all do) then you can GET RIGHT BACK ON AGAIN. There are no tests to say – oh, if you’ve fallen off, you’ve failed, leave the room. It doesn’t matter how many times you fall off, if you continue with the BSD you WILL lose the weight, and you WILL feel much better and get your life back.

I’ve just worked out that if you’ve lost nearly 2.5 stone, and are now under 13 stone, then you must have lost 17% of your starting body weight? WOW WOW WOW!!

What fantastic results!!!

Onwards and downwards – and CONGRATULATIONS! 🙂

I can feel it in my clothes, I don’t see it in the mirror yet, but hubby says so. I mean, it’s nearly 2 stone so I must look a bit different. I need to take underwear pics Saturday, I haven’t done so for two weeks. I’ll probably see it better putting the start and now ones side by side.

That is a brilliant inch loss, Tokyo, and 5 inches from your waist? That’s amazing. I’ve done nowhere near that yet, so it goes to show we’re all different and it shows in different ways 🙂

I haven’t done yet, no, my in laws are in my room until later. When they go out for the day (I’m not going today) I might just do that, take some time for me. I won’t have too many clothes that are going to be too big for me, because when I’m big, I don’t buy clothes only what I need and then it tends to be from charity shops. But the wardrobe I have in ready and waiting for me in smaller sizes… I am chomping at the bit to get into them! It’s pouring with rain here so once I have done my housework and bits I am going to get on the treadmill and make sure I reach my 10,000 steps today.