Hello Sunshine girl – sorry to mention water, but I’m not telling you to drink more 🙂 Out of interest, what is your average daily water consumption?

Awwwwwwwwwwwww Eps *hugs and thanks* that was lovely 😀 You’re right. No limits. As long as I break it down into baby steps (because another 7 stone is like sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!) who’s to say I can’t get down to that size again? It’s obviously how I was naturally intended to be, so if I’m eating foods I’m meant to be eating, and not eating the ones I’m not, then common sense says my body should revert to type, right?

Moral of the story – always eat your tuna armed with a laser pointer????? 😉

Lucky you’re doing a great job by the sounds of it – and now he has the bleedin’ books so no excuses! There were a lot of people who didn’t bother to buy the books when I was in college, it was pretty common. But more to the point you’ve now got a good leverage stick (not sure that’s the right phrase?!) because you’ve just spent money on books for him which was the reason he gave for failing so now all he has he has left to do is pass. And at the end of the day it’s up to him – he has a choice to do what he can before August and if he wants to stay in college he’ll have to do it – otherwise, well he’s made a different choice – guess no harm in reminding him that he can go either way. (especially ‘cos you say he’s bright)

So enough waffle, some cat truths… (feel free to share with him;-)))) When our cat is chasing the laser pointer, he walks himself into his water bowl, bangs his head off cupboards, jumps about 5 feet in the air to get at it. When you want him to get off the counter and stop trying to stick his head in your tuna, he turns into a dead weight and becomes impossible to move….

Illuminating eh…. ;-)))))))

I think you’re great – a great example of restraint and humour and patience – AND on top of all that are well on your way to being a skinny minny, or as skinny minny as you would like to be – NO LIMITS! :-)) I totally agree – aim high, who says you can’t be any size you’d like to be – nobody. Though by the time you are fab and even more healthy than you must be already after all this cauliflower, you might not even care about being a stick – who knows what’s ahead. ***lots of clapping hands***

And Happy Anniversary for Sunday!

Oh God, the meat knot, I was thinking about that this morning… not in a pervy way, just when you mentioned speedos. Or did I mention speedos. I don’t know. But anyway. Yeah. Meat knots. Fnarr.

I think I have an explanation for my slow weight loss. No. 1 Before BSD I used to eat next to nothing anyway but lots of lettuce leaves and home-made soup, but then I would be starving and make myself a tuna sandwich, then there was the wine. Now I eat lots of really good stuff and feel good on it. No.2 I normally swim twice a day, totaling 40 to 60 mins. Since the diet I have not had quite that much energy and managed 30 minutes each day, which is a big reduction. Now I am getting used to the diet I could swim more but it has rained for the last 3 days. No.3 I am not using the toilet as often. Normally twice a day regularly, now it is once every other day. Don’t tell me to drink more water, I do. My body just needs to adjust and everything else is working fine. Do not even feel hungry.

Oh my God Timmy, it just shows how easy it is to do. They say something like that, that it takes 21 days to change a habit. You don’t always equate it with changing good habits into bad though, do you? Just changing our vices, smoking, drinking, food etc? You can do it! We’ll be here like your personal ever-diminishing cheerleading pack 🙂

Yes, no need to waste good alcohol is there? One of the bottles is for 16lbs time when I’ve lost 3 stone. The other, maybe Christmas or something. Can’t believe there’s been wine in the house for two months, untouched! Pashmina of determination! I like it! I like it a lot! I may buy one in three colours!

I love my new friends 🙂

I am going to work him like a b*tch in the house this summer, to pay for the books.

It’s from Beavis and Butthead the Movie.

Hi Jill.
How did you get it to accept the 800 count, played around, with it no go for me ?

Timmy
Enlighten us we are dying to know

Hi figment
I am at day 15 and have now lost 19 lbs, but I have a lot to loose, it was 104 when I started, so it’s speedier for me, at the moment.
Regards
Jan 🤗

Don’t start her on the willies again! We’re not talking about meat knots are we?!

Firstly, do not drink the Prosecco or you will feel as utterly awful as I did on Sunday! Better to hit him lightly over the head with the bottle, thereby conveying your frustration but preserving the contents! Take 5 mins, have a mousse bar or Willie or something nice, and then realise it wasn’t THAT nice and that you are doing BRILLIANTLY on the BSD.. plus you have a new bunch of crazy friends; chandlers, accountants, quilters, readers, yoga doers (?!), all of whom are cheering you on as well as counting on you for moral support and giggles.

Tut at the wilted kale then don your pashmina of determination (a new garment) and soldier on!

p.s. As the mother of a son I am under no illusions that I would also want to batter him, but then would cough up for the b****** books!

That’s a good idea with the photo. I’ve got a photo of myself on honeymoon in Cannes in nothing but a pair of shorts. 6 pack out and looking lean (and dashing of course). I might pin that up for inspiration!

Funnily enough that was the beginning of the end. I used to go to the gym 5 days per week and lift. I was fairly rippling with muscles. I had a week off to get ready for the wedding, then 2 weeks honeymoon. So for 3 weeks I did sweet FA exercise (apart from usual honeymoon exercise, cough, cough). I never could get back into the gym when I got back, and 11 months later out popped two sprogs! Game over, massive balloon in weight from a slender 13st to a chubby 15st.

I’ve since got back into exercise but haven’t shifted the weight until now. In fact that was 12 years ago to the day when I let it slip! It’s my 12th wedding anniversary on Sunday. It’s crazy how the time flies and the excuses we make. 12 bloody years of being a skinnyfat.

No more I say. My 6 pack is coming out again this year.

Really Timmy? That’s great, well done for turning it around. I’m not holding my breath though, there’s just no oooomph in the boy. Well, he’s a man really, he’s 2 months off 21. I said, didn’t I? I said that he thought he could wing his degree. Surely he knew that he couldn’t without at least the textbooks he needed? Christ on a bike…

Tokyo, my kid ratio is 3 boys 1 girl. The girl is nearly 14 and she is my punishment for my teenage years. Everything I put my parents through, she is putting me through. And some more. This is karma in action. The boys have been zero trouble in the real sense of the world, not a scrap of trouble at all. I’d raise another fourteen boys over another girl, any day. Love them all though 😉

Morning BSD peeps.
Weigh in today day 16 total loss now 19lbs, have now passed a new stone mark, wey hey , haven’t been this number for 9 years. Also have sorted all my big winter clothes and they have gone to charity. Yeah so no going back now, otherwise I will be naked . There’s an incentive for me LOL

Hope your day is a good one.
Love jan😊😊😊

I will get it on, Tokyo, it’s getting there. I know it will come because I used to have quite nice pins, for a shortarse anyway.

Do you know what, all these diets I’ve been on, especially the ones since I’ve been big (and by big, I mean no offence to anyone, just by my ‘teenage’ standard, me being ‘big’ – for me – is 11 stone upwards, and I’ve been up to 18 stone 10 at my absolute highest). I’ve always ‘held back’ a little. If I can get down to 12 stone, I’ll be happy. If I can get into a size 16, I’ll be happy. And the bigger I get, the less ambitious the goals seem to be. Now it’s – if I get down to 14 stone, I’ll be happy. If I can get into a size 14, I’ll be happy. I found a picture of myself at 16. I was tanned, beautiful, still had a huge bust and a curvy bum but my waist, oh my God I’m sure it was smaller than my thigh is now. I was probably about 9 stone. And I’ve been looking at that picture and wondering if all my ‘aim low’ goals have been a sort of self-preservation, because in my heart of hearts I knew that I’d never get down to that size again? I knew I’d never stick to SW or WW or cabbage soup or whatever it was I was on that month long enough to ever get there? And now… I don’t know, there’s a shift inside my mind, as well as my body. I’ve pinned the picture to my kitchen cupboard door, where I can see it daily. I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself but… I wonder if this is it, this time? I hope that makes sense to someone.

Epspecially, I need you and your psychology please. Even if it is only cat psychology. It worked with the scented stuff…

oh lucky !!! that truly was a rant poor you but i guess what as a mum did he expect you to do ? you did what i and thousand others would do buy the books i would say kids ( but only had a son !!) are sometimes gormless i think its a boy thing ( not sure what girls are like !!) probably a whole different ball game but at least he pasted three , hope you calm down treat yourself to a chocolate mousse bar !!! x

So pleased for you, that yesterday was a supportive day for you. keep up the good work, one meal at a time.
Regards
Jan💜

If it’s any consolation I was a lazy tw*^ at uni and didn’t pass my finals. But now I’m a chartered accountant and am running 3 successful businesses.

This is four children of this particular ‘calibre’ that I am unleashing on the world. You’re welcome 🙂

Oh my God – for those who remember my rant about my useless son. I had to have a talk with him today. It was building up inside me. I told him it wasn’t that he failed his year that I was so cross about, it was his complete apathy. The ‘I don’t know/I’ll do it later/I’ll check my email’ and I asked him if he’d feel any less frustrated if it were his child. He shook his head. So it emerges he’s passed three (I think) exams, but he failed both the maths ones. So I pointed out that if he was resitting, shouldn’t he be studying? August is but weeks away after all! He can’t study. Guess why? Go on, guess…

HE HASN’T GOT THE TEXTBOOKS. He hasn’t got… the bloody textbooks. Why? Because they were – and I quote – too expensive. Some were £60…

Yes, all you parents out there, no – scratch that, you don’t need to be a parent, just possess a modicum of common sense – my first sentiment was to ask ‘How much do you spend on a night out’. Which was met with a surly ‘I don’t know!’ Taking into account pre-going out drinks, and now pubs are open late, not like ‘when I were a lass’ and you were chucked out on your a**e by half 11. I then pointed out that – shock horror – that’s what his grant was actually for! Expensive textbooks! Not his bloody social life.

So, to cut an already long story short… guess who has just been landed a very large bill for 4 of the five (secondhand) textbooks from Amazon this morning? He could go and whistle for the fifth one, which was over £60 second hand! Guess who is NOT a happy ******* bunny. I haven’t wanted a drink during this diet, and now all I can think about is the two bottles of birthday Prosecco and Cava that have been chilling in my fridge since May. And how good it would feel hitting him over the head with one.

Fin.

i want to say it looks delicious janey ! BUT its the thought of the new wonder fart loaf i cant get out of my head !!! i preferred your date bread !!
still cleaning bloody windows but i did stop for lunch !!!!!
well done lucky on the boot front (soundtrack playing in my head is these boots are made for walking !!!!! ) visions of you strutting your stuff round your house in your boots !!!

So my first day didnt end well! So i have a new plan, i will go low carb following my usual high fat low carb plan, then when i am in the zone i will go low cal and follow the diet properly. Back in a few days!

Oh God, forgot they were cauliflower based… wonder if you could do a brussels sprouts one???

I wonder what it’s like toasted…

I need to stop wondering. I’m making the baps on Saturday to go with our burger.

I was thinking rather the farty smell of the bread rather than the resulting trouser trumpets.

No idea on cals.. I have transcended calorie counting now in week 10/11 or whatever I’m on! Plus the methane it will inevitably create will offset the cals!! Hee hee! Carrot or beetroot ones may be less offensive (although I believe there is still cauliflower involved).

The ‘fallout’ from it is to come, Timmy. Which is worrying as I have a customer meeting in a couple of hours!! 😮

Lucky you’ll be toasting before you know it 😉

That looks delicious Janey!! I’m totally making it next… who cares what it smells like :-))))

Yay! Glad it was edible! Maybe the orange one might be less offensive? How many cals a slice did it work out?

Yes but did the rest of your office look at you as if you’d floated an air biscuit? Cut the cheese? Did a bottom burp? Doing a one cheek sneak?

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p703/janeycoughdrop/51E1601B-0B9E-47B6-829A-2BF568F78870_zps33ulbwif.jpg

Can people see this?

Update on the fart bread! I loaded the offending article up with humus, sliced tomato, a little shredded chicken and a few olives and you know what? It wasn’t half bad! The broccoli ‘twang’ was much diminished by the goodies on top and so it just tasted like bread base! So I will persevere with the remaining 5 pcs! 👍🏼

😀

Autumn, the same thing happened to me when I cheated. My stomach is way smaller than it used to be. I feel the effects of alcohol, junk food and excess sodium almost immediately, which definitely has me weighing the cost of a cheat. I make sure it’s worth it. I’ve been at this since May. I’m losing on average 10 lbs a month even with cheating 2 times a month. The moral of the story is, don’t make cheats a habit and you’ll still make progress. I’ve got to try that cauliflower pizza crust 😮

Lucky – totally flippin’ marvellous, thank you
Jill

Hi Peterking, not sure if anyone has answered you as there are one or 2 nurse types on, just like me – ex-nurse, long time ago. The word you need is ketones. It is when the body starts to find its energy from muscle fibre, basically eating itself. Now you have the right word you can google it or look it up on any diabetic site. In severe cases you get ketoacidos, which is serious – look it up.

Quote from Diabetes for Dummies = If you go on a strict diet your body burns some of its fat storage and produces ketones in much the same way it burns fat when you lack insulin……. then comes the science bit, ….. Conclusion. A strict diet can produce ketones and these can be released into your urine (you can buy test strips) but this is not the same as the condition which results in ketoacidosis.

You see, even nurses get confused, and get in a panic when they don’t really know what they are talking about. One is a serious condition the other is the natural process of losing weight. By the way, if you have ever wondered where fat goes, when you diet it is broken down into smaller molecules and is expelled in your urine, which is why a good diet make you pee more.

Jill, I can’t think in kilos either, this is purely for the psychological aspect of it 😀 Especially now that (I suspect!) weight loss is going to be slowing down to 1 or 2 lbs a week – still not to be sniffed at – but after such big losses in the first month, it’s going to be a bit disheartening. So, I’m going to switch off and just concentrate on the scale going down (hopefully!) in small increments. As long as it goes down, that’s all that matters. A quick google search can convert the amounts in seconds anyway, if I really need to know 😉

Absolutely you can do it! I don’t think I would have stuck to it without this forum, this thread has kept me sane, talked me down, geed me on and given me some of the best giggles I have had in ages! This thread is generally open between 5 am (apart from today grrrrrrrrr) and 11 pm 😉 You too can join us in a pot of hurrah, and tut at wilted kale. Squint drunkenly at Timmy in his speedos. Just remember to keep your chickpeas chunky, and leave your sanity at the door 😉

Lucy – all fantastically helpful and encouraging thanks so much. Started at 12st 13lbs (sorry just can’t think in kilos even though I hear what you say about better loss tracking) and hope to get rid of a stone in the 4 weeks I plan to do it – then do another 4 weeks in a month or so (not eating differently in between but not calorie counting). I would like to get to 10 stone, that is my goal – but with such great support here I am sure it can be done, so thanks to you and all the lovely people who take time out of their day to support us. I really do think it is the greatest thing about this diet and why it works – they should market you as part of it!

Linda that is really helpful thanks so much – week 13! I take my hat off to the long termers. I had to clear a frantic work diary that takes me travelling at least 3 times a week so I could retrieve 4 weeks at home to focus on this – plan to do another 4 weeks in a month or so 🙂 It’s v hard when your job takes you all over, no mater how good you try to be 🙁 And actually, the recipes don’t travel well!
J

Thanks to you all – you are true gurus!
Jill

Yayyyyyyy Tokyo!! Well done! I forgot to say too, I managed to zip left boot up apart from the last two inches or so!!!!

Hi
Day 5 and back on track. Yesterday emotionally was fine, a couple of sad thoughts but a good day really. Did not keep to it, knew I wouldn’t. a latte coffee and half a slice of millionaires shortbread, friend bought and wanted to share. Lunch late was ploughmans with cheese, ham and hock. Had 2 slices of home made bread, some butter and a little pickle. For drink I had sparkling water with a slice of lemon and another coffee. Then indulged in a large slice of coffee and walnut cake yummy. Had yoghurt with fresh blueberries last night. Oh forgot had some tesco make jelly babies third of a pack.
Today have had two coffees with a bit of milk and yoghurt with fresh blueberries. Have been to pre diabetic clinic where was weighed but not too bad, blood pressure all right. She was pleased I was taking it seriously and said to carry on. Had a thought spiralising courgettes and carrots should be ok I hope. So having veg soup for lunch and will try courgette spaghetti with a tomato and pepper mixture to top. Hope that will be good. Thanks everyone Mary

Bloody hell! Do you all wait until I’m not here to interact? Pfffffffffffft.

So, Timmy, basically you were posing in the changing rooms, correct? 😉 Haha, I had the same reaction re the almond flour, he nearly cried handing over his debit card, and ours wasn’t so bad as we had buy one get one half price (I was in every day that week taking advantage of that offer, I tell you!).

Hi Jill, welcome. Come in, come in… Everyone is doing this plan differently to what works for them. I’ve not counted one carb daily, but I do look at carb counts. I’m just following the plan according to what I’m allowed to eat, and the amount of calories I can eat in a day. It’s working – for me – so far. When it stops working, well, then I’ll have to start looking at the amount of carbs. I’ve so much weight to lose anyway, that it’s going to take time. If I was nearer goal? Then the carb count would probably bother me. But I’m nowhere near.

I lost 14lb in my first week, 4 in my second, 3 in my third and 4 in my fourth. One off this week so far. I weigh again on Saturday at the end week 5/start of week 6. Everyone is different though and it will depend on many factors, including how big you were to start off with too. Personally, I am different to the other ladies, I weigh daily. I haven’t always but I have for the last two eating plans I have been on. It keeps me on track too. So if it’s right for you, don’t worry about it. One thing you might want to consider (what I’m doing on Saturday) is changing your scales to kilos. You’ll see the weight come down in smaller increments but as I said before, I could have three days at a certain weight and my scale won’t show a change until I’ve lost the whole pound. I could be 15 11 and three quarters, 15 11 and a half and 15 11 and a quarter on those three days, losing half a pound, but my scales won’t show me that. If that makes sense!

Janey, how was fart bread sandwich????? We must know!!!

and today ladies (and gentleman!) cinderella moment is brought to you by my gardening jeans !! four weeks ago i jumped and laid down anything to squeeze into them and took many attemprs to zip them up today in with a wiggle zip up once success overload !!!

Hi Jillf,
I’m now in week 13 and have lost 19.8kg and have just hit a ‘normal’ BMI after starting off ‘obese’. Still 5.1kg to lose till my goal weight of 65kg, not that I’m counting. Much! Heck, who am I kidding! I count everything!

I’ve kept track of everything I’ve eaten in my EasyDietDiary app and on looking back, I’ve logged somewhere between 40-70g per day of both total fats (as opposed to just saturated) and protein. On rare days I went either a bit over or under, but generally between 40 & 70g.

My biggest weight loss in a week was 4.6kg and the lowest was 0.4kg, but on most weeks, seems to be around 1.5kg per week.
I hope this helps, any questions, just ask, we are all here to help.😀
Cheers
Linda

LMAO at least you wear shorts Timmy!! Not a word, Lucky 😉

Hey Switzerland, someone posted a link to a gram flour pizza base recipe which you might want to take a look at too.

Glad you finally know what is up, I hope you manage to get it remedied. I’m a huge fan of food first therapy now.

Like you, I think I flukilly heard that radio 2 snipped! Otherwise I’d still be miserable and contemplating buying a new suit because I was too fat for my current ones. Now I’m almost out of those suits the other way!

Good luck to you

Hi Autumn,
We have Friday night pizza almost every week. It’s home made. This takes a bit of effort but since April I make a cauliflower pizza (see recipe section) so that I can ‘have my pizza and eat it too’.
I think that it’s the carbs that cause the lightheadedness, tiredness and irritability.
I agree with you that family get togethers are really important and an integral part of our lives. I’m sure you’ll work out something that will suit you.

1) Ate the nicest meal I think I’ve ever had last night
2) Just had confirmation of the biggest contract ever for one of my businesses (3 times the size the current largest!)
3) Less than 4 weeks to holiday and I’m way ahead of target to be at my perfect weight.