Hi everyone, this is Day 3 for me too and I’m surprisingly finding it a lot easier than I thought I would. I bought the book sometime last year but never started as the thought of just 800 calories a day filled me with dread. Although I’m not T2 I suspect that if I carry on as I am will end up being pre-diabetic. I have 56lbs (25kg) to get me to my ideal weight and the top-end of a healthy BMI, not sure how long that might take but I have a mini goal of end of April for my holiday in Thailand so I want to lose as much as possible before then and not look/feel like a fat blob!
I’m finding it much harder to lose weight than I did when I was younger and I get easily discouraged if the scales don’t move enough so am hoping higher losses in the first few weeks of BSD will spur me on to keep going. I’ve decided to fast till lunchtime and just have 2 meals a day saving most of my calories for dinner and so far so good. Have lost 2.2lbs so far so am happy with that, and must remember to keep up with the water intake. Am drinking fizzy water and a hot vegetable bouillon drink as when needed (12 cal per teaspoon serving) which I find helps to keep any hunger at bay.

Good luck on journey everyone, we can do it!!

Hi KrysiaD! I’m so glad your maintenance is going well — I’m finding that my new way of eating is almost automatic now — “almost” is the operative word ha ha! Still need to hop on the 800 bus now and then after a bit of overly-exuberant eating. I will have to watch this forever I think, but for the first time in my whole life it doesn’t seem like torture. I love eating like this. I will enjoy reading your ongoing maintenance posts!

I thought I would join the weigh in thread 🙂

Starting weight Monday 2nd Jan: 15 st 10.1 lbs
1st Weight In 9th January: 15 st 6.1 lbs
2nd Weigh In 11th January: 15 st 3.5 lbs

I promised myself I would weigh once a week but i get so excited getting on the scales and the number being lower than i was the day before – even if is by just 1lbs!! 🙂

Actually got the rowing machine set up in the spare bedroom today and have done two 3 minute sessions – sounds pathetic, but thought I’d build up slowly as I haven’t done any rowing for too long to calculate. Will do more tomorrow.

My first mini goal is 11 st 13.
I was 12 st 3 3/4 this morning…….. But hit that point where hunger has reduced now I’m back on it properly so just need to keep going.
Come on everyone we can do this as we know it works so well.

Cassandra – unless you are 10 foot tall, weighing 10st something is not a fairy tale – YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

that should of course be any food, not just carbs

Hi fifi and flo, the glycemic index indicates the speed at which a carb raises the sugar levels in the blood and there is also a correlation as to how quickly it comes down again. So the higher the GI the quicker it turns to sugar but the hunger pangs come back quicker, low GI release its sugars more slowly so they stay in the system longer and keep you feeling fuller. You will be familiar with some foods giving you are sugar rush (like fizzy sweet drinks) but you get a drop in energy very quickly after consuming. It is complicated but this diet almost works out for you which are the best foods on the GI scale but cutting out those that are high. It is a lot more complicated than that when you start looking at GL. This is basically a low GI diet but basing it on carb load.

There are a lot of sites you can google but to keep it simple look on Kids Health, explaining to mums and their kids.

Hi All. I wondered if anyone can explain in simple lay-man terms what the difference is between a Low-GI/GL diet and Dr Moseley’s BSD?
Have googled but the explanations are confusing (to me 😂)
Thank you

Tumtum…..just *wow* amazing result, you have me optimistic for my first full week weigh in next Monday!

Buffs. Great loss too, and the NSV’s are always welcome. I always plateau at some point. But luckily those are usually the weeks when people comment that I look good.

Just feeling very inspired by everyone on here, great Woe!

Hi everyone and Trelawny!
Starting back today properly.
Have had a bit of a faff about.
Last month has been bad. Turn that a into an ‘s. …bsd not bad!
Brunch..2 eggs..mushrooms..cheese..pepperoni scramble
Tea..tea..
Light evening meal planned tonight. Soup.
Been running.
Terrible acne breakout on face I think it’s the bread! It’s so sore and ugly!
Relieved to be back on it. I can’t cope with overeating. Also running more now. .which reinforces healthy thoughts. Xx
Tattiescone.

K8sgettingthin,

We used to do that many years ago as students. The low point was three trolleys formed into a barricade across the dairy aisle by a group of nuns, who had disappeared off somewhere, leaving no access to the milk. I believe a packet of condoms may have been added to one of the offending trolleys.

I await the special circle of purgatory reserved for such actions.

Getyourcarbon,

I think that I would have risked half a glass of the Tawny – it’s not too bad. I have a case of Grange 2004 in the cellar that is just coming to its best and will feature during the maintenance phase – but in moderation of course.

Hi Leshaz – doing a quick check on calories, 100g of chicken thigh meat is almost double the calories of the same weight of chicken breast – 209 cals against 110cals. I use two sites for nutrition info calorieking.com and nutricheck.co.uk – mainly use calorieking, but it’s a US site I think, so if I can’t find the item on there, I fall back to the nutricheck.
Rice should be avoided as it is high in carbohydrate and the BSD is a low carb way of eating, not low GI. Best to avoid all rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, most cereals and anything sugary etc. Quinoa is okay in small portions if you want a rice substitute, as this is higher in protein than carbs.
Yes you may have coconut cream/milk, but you need to account for this in your calorie count – and if you are tracking carb intake the carb count too.
Hope that helps and good luck as you begin this new way of eating. Hope to see some great results being posted by you soon.

Hydration is one of my issues. I often get caught up in other things and forget to drink and like you end up with a headache. Each morning, I draw five little cups and five little glasses on our notice board in the kitchen and cross them through, as and when I have a drink. It’ not infallible, but it does serve as a prompt.

Hope the scales continue to be kind.

Thanks for the formula TC. Using that, I calculate I have so far lost 13% of my starting weight, which seems amazing!

It does all feel like a fairy tale doesn’t it Cassandra? I’m still trying to get used to being able to buy fitted clothes and not baggy cover-ups to hide the multitude of sins. Can’t get used to having a waist again and no muffin tops.

Keep at it everyone!

Lara, your fasting accomplishments are amazing. I have been doing 5:2 since Dr MM’s TV programme on fasting first aired in 2012 (I believe) and have no plan to ever stop. I came to enjoy that empty feeling I previously considered hunger. Unfortunately the overeating on my ‘5’ days, changes in my medication and giving up artificial sweeteners (and therefore increasing sugar) eventually caught up with me and I started to gain weight, much of it visceral fat. I’ve been doing BSD for about 10 weeks and still love that growly tummy feeling. I’m not sure I could ever fast for more than a day though due to medications and so on. (Well pointed out Verano).

On a less serious note, we are having incredibly high winds in the UK today and in the region where I live wind speeds over 90 miles an hour have been recorded. Did that stop me walking to the shops for berries and veg? Diditeckaslike (a clue to my region). And what exactly did I learn from my foolhardy expedition? Less weight = less resistance -doh! There were points walking to the shop into the wind that I literally had to stop, and a couple of times I almost got blown off my feet! With the wind at my back walking home was much faster, I just had to make sure I wasn’t blown into the road! I arrived home safely,though dizzy, a bit traumatised and looking like a scarecrow 😀

Lunch time now… asparagus, eggs and spinach for me.

Hi sunshine-girl

Hope the cold goes soon. Great loss for one week and now you know how your BG goes up and down I suppose it’s easier to deal with.

Have now signed up for Duolingo! It seems to be a fun way of learning and it’s great to use on the go. Thanks for the recommendation.

Hi Lara

Very interesting reading. I’m really pleased that fasting seems to be suiting you and it does seem to have benefits. However, I do feel that a caveat is needed here, especially as sometimes people try things without enough background research.

I got to Fasting 7 before, in Bold Type, it says that anybody taking any medication should only fast with medical supervision. Furthermore, it does say that medication for diabetes should be adjusted on any fasting day. Dr Fung also says that fasting is ok if you feel hungry but you should stop if you feel sick.

So I guess that anybody with diabetes, and there are lots of us on these threads, should be extra careful about fasting without supervision.

Fifi and Flo I will have a look out for that… I like long soaks in a hot bath as a distraction and have also taken to mindfulness colouring books as a good distraction … not at the same time I hasten to add! I am definitely feeling improved today, but tired, though I think that has as much to do with the hellish winds keeping me awake last night as it does the change in diet! Hope today is good for you 🙂

Thank you everyone for the postings.

Mixnmatch – your weight loss is amazing. Congratulations I hope that I have the willpower to achieve such results. Did you follow the BSD for the whole period or have breaks?
Bombalone & Leshaz & SadieOne & Seahorsesal & abisaysyes & Hulagirl – good luck – its great that there is a team starting around the same time and there to provide and receive encouragement. Looking forward to future posts.
Day 3 – started well but a social luncheon resulted with some deviation. Tried hard to stay on track – however was more restrained then I would have been normally. Main culprit was a fruit salad and some salad which contained a bit of potato. Will investigate the damage on the scales in the morning.

Hi all, I weighed in yesterday as I am a usually Tuesday weigher but I didn’t start the relaunch until Wednesday, so today is one full week. I can report I have now lost 4lbs in one week. I set myself a goal of 4.5 lbs (my Christmas gains) in 2 weeks so have another week to lose half a pound, obviously that is not the aim now. Want to lose 11.5 lbs before my next holiday at Easter which will take me to a nice round figure of 11 stone, excuse the pun ’round figure’, yes I am still barrel shaped.

Once again, after a loss my BG dips up and today was 6.4 but I did reduce my insulin 2 nights ago so my body is probably adjusting to that. I also think I am eating too much cheese. I have it rarely but brought a load of full fat Cheddar back from the UK and have been having it as my night time snack. It has to stop, full fat is good but to often is not. I need to portion it out and stick it in the freezer.

Still full of cold and not exercising, I am allowing myself to wallow but keeping my brain active with 3 study courses I am doing.

Keep on keeping on…

Back on the diet since last Wednesday and have lost 4lbs. I have a goal of 11.5 lbs before I go on my next holiday at Easter so onwards and downwards.

Planning a trip to Sainsbury’s in my lunch break, no trolley ramming though, I promise! These posts keep me going… another kilo down, yippee! I like the idea of a clear path day… it’s a great way of visualising this journey. I will choose to see any obstacles that come up as ones to be cleared out the way, rather than given in to.
Julia

How’s everyone doing?

I had a stinking headache last night but realised that as I’d been buzzing around all day that I’d not drunk enough water – my fault!

The scales were kind to me this morning and showed me an ickle bit more has been lost – hurrah!!

I am a huge believer in mini goals too, I have been doing the plan with my sister whom I only see every 3 months or so due to distance so we usually set a “10 lbs” before I see you again goal. As of this morning I am 11 stone 7 lbs. Getting into the lower half of the stone is a big goal as I have not been this slim since I got married 15 years ago. The next goal will be seeing 10 stone on the scales. Despite the great success so far, this still seems like a fairy tale

“Promised myself to loose 2 stone before year end. Only 3 to go.” – I’m still giggling at that 2 days later – thanks for the smiles 🙂 🙂

Wow Lynne – fab bargains – I’m swanning around in a Hobbs coat at the moment that I picked up for a tenner! Unfortunately it’s about 3 sizes too big now!! But to get anything from Jacques Vert for less than a fiver is a victory! And Fuschia suede – it sounds amazing!

Hi Inka13 – if you’d told me 13 weeks ago pre BSD that I’d be completing a 4 day fast it would have been inconceivable! And in many ways I don’t think I would have been in a physical or mental state to do it back then. 12 weeks on the BSD has re-programmed my body away from carb dependance for fuelling my body and made me realise you can happily live on 800 calories while losing weight 🙂

Hi Verano – I’ve been reading a lot on fasting and there are some incredible reported health benefits associated with regular fasting, including lowering blood pressure (and I can confirm my resting heart rate has lowered in just a few days), improving insulin sensitivity, and lowering cholesterol among others. I felt no ill effects and was able to go about my normal daily routine at work and home (including my 10000 steps a day) with no issues. There was no brain fog or lethargy, which is what I would have expected. Biologically it makes sense that our bodies are designed to survive both feast and famine – we would not have survived as a species if we couldn’t store body fat during the good times and live off that stored fat when food was not available for long periods. Unfortunately in our modern lives we have taken the feasting to an extreme level and lost the balance we need from the periods of fasting we’re designed to sustain. People fast for many reasons, for differing periods and with differing levels of restriction. I drank lots of water, mineral water, green tea & coffee. I also had a cup of clear home made broth in the evenings, so many would not consider that a true fast but it’s within the guidelines that Dr Fung suggests and the calorie impact is negligible.

For anyone interested in learning more try Dr Fung’s website which includes a wealth of information
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/fasting-a-history-part-i/
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/longer-fasting-regimens-part-7/ – includes reference to MMs 5:2 diet

Hi Sunny B – divide the amount you’ve lost by the original amount and multiply by 100 😀

Fasting is not a problem, in fact many schools of thought say that it’s extremely beneficial – I don’t eat anything from 7pm to 11am every day and I’m fine 🙂 Many people only eat two meals a day which helps them because they can then eat a larger amount at each meal so whatever works for you.

But if you feel like you want breakfast you could try full fat yoghurt with nuts and berries, or just a handful of nuts, or check out the recipes in the book for a little inspiration – or bacon and sausages? Or tuna salad, or SOUP – whatever you want! No one made a law that says we have to eat ‘conventional’ breakfast foods for breakfast – eat what you like LOL

Good luck – keep us posted

Welcome Yumcheese, more the merrier. We’re all here to support each other in this last dash for glory. You’re already seeing good results again – keep us posted.

Think you are right TC, lets get some mini-goals out there. My first is to get to 9st – as of this morning that is 3lb away. Doesn’t sound like much, but I tend to lose slowly. After that it will be to get under the 9st mark, but one step at a time. I’m going to task myself with working out the 10% of my start weight lost so far, as I think I might be surprised by the result, but maths is not my strong point, so that might take some time.

Let’s stay focused folks and really go for this!

Good morning all and welcome to another day on Planet Earth.

I have been looking at mini goals today. These are the slightest reason to celebrate but do keep you motivated. I had them all the way through my weight loss, things like every half stone, stone, 5% or weight loss, getting under the next stone and the non scale victories like an uninterrupted nights sleep (which still evades me!) going down a dress or trouser size etc. It really helped and I wondered if it might help us for that final push. My first one is getting under 9st – and I’m at 9st now so hoping for a result on my next weigh in!!

My first goal was actually 9st 2lbs and I reached it quite easily. I really thought it would be harder, that my body would resist as I had never been able to sustain less than 9st 10 in the past but that didn’t happen. So as a word of encouragement if you stick to the plan you will see results – good luck everyone and have a great day!
TC

I’m here again! What a strange thing the human body is?
Yesterday I weighed in 4 lbs down for the week and today ( I weigh daily but only record weekly) I have lost another 3.5 lbs which means I have at last passed the 2 stone barrier! I wonder if the sudden weight loss is due to lowering my steroid dose? I am down to alternate days 1 and two mgs with no symptoms of PMR and did gain two stone over the past year, and hope to stop the horrible Predenisolone before the spring.
X B

Hi Bissell

I think you could be right! It probably will never fit properly.

Oh yes, the trolleys.
I once knew someone who. when his path was blocked by an abandoned trolley in the middle of an aisle (they’d probably wandered off to find something they’d forgotten to pick up) would add an item for them before moving the offending trolley. If they were obviously vegetarian, it might be a leg of lamb. If they had dog food in there, he would add cat litter. I made myself scarce and eventually refused to shop with him.
Well done again with your inspiring contributions Lucia. Do you think you have an alternative career possibility? You are so motivating!
Kate

Hi

I can’t post these recipes as my own as they are from 2 vegan food bloggers whose advice and recipes were invaluable to me when we first became vegan over 5 years ago.

Until now, I have followed an almost fat free vegan plan which has been great for our health …… apart from for weight loss which is a major health issue for so many reason of course. Anyway, I think these 2 recipes would be acceptable on the BSD 800 plan and can always be adapted if you wanted to add fat.

Zucchini “Noodles” with Sesame-Peanut Sauce
http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2013/04/zucchini-noodles-with-sesame-peanut-sauce.html

Re the vegan gravy recipe, I use chickpea flour and oat flour version in this link as opposed to the plain flour version I have seen elsewhere (just ignore the first bit – the gravy recipe is further down)
BRYANNA’S RICH BROWN YEAST GRAVY
http://veganfeastkitchen.blogspot.com.cy/2013/11/huli-huli-sauce-bean-based-gravies-your.html

My favourite vegan mayo recipe using silken tofu
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1VdFMtv3-tR_Xsba_se-9Is1DLqIHhUrFPMAIMDjXUls

My husband loves this Vegan Goddess dressing – and so do no vegan friends
Susan’s Lite Goddess Dressing
http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/01/susans-lite-goddess-dressing.html

Any more anyone ? I love to hear what other vegans are cooking and sure others do too.

Hi Lara

An amazing achievement. I am left wondering how healthy it is to fast for so long. I assume ‘fasting’ means no solid food but plenty of water??

Hi all.

I thought I would ass some more positivity to this thread – as if we can get anymore!!!

Week 2, day 2, 6lbs down (2.7kg) and the first 2 NSV’s!!!!

My top that I haven’t worn for a while feel a lot looser on me this morning and the waistband of my tights feels a lot looser also…. it’s the little things that keep us going…

5 more weeks until my holidays and I will be in that next stone bracket (7lbs to go) and a dress size smaller if its the last thing I do!!!!

:o)

Happy hump day everyone!!!

Much love,
Rebecca. xxx

Hi Folks!

Just starting BSD and aiming for 800 / 8 Weeks!

I’m not a fan of eggs/mushrooms/fish… and cant seem to find a good breakfast except porridge (which i’ve been told is very high in carbs!)

Therefore I have been skipping breakfast, in order to have a longer fast after my sleep fast.

Is this a good idea?

I’m a wee bit confused…
Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions!

Alan

Amazing tumtum!!!!! Congratulations and a great inspiration for us all👍

Lara that is amazing!! I can’t fathom being able to do that myself, and yet.. You made it sound so doable and I found everything you experienced so interesting, talk about food for thought!!
Definitely our mindset is more powerful than most of us know and advetising and social pressure so insidious, but now every time I feel a hunger pang ( less these days to be sure) I will think of you! And resist! And drink another glass of water!
I look forward to hearing your next update, best wishes!

Hi everyone!

What an interesting week it has been. Last week I reported that I had started my first fast after reading Dr Jason Fung’s complete guide to fasting. Well my first fast lasted 4 and a half days! The only reason it ended was that I got to Saturday night and just wanted to end the boredom of not eating! That’s right, absolutely no physical reason not to continue, just boredom! That experience has taught me so much about my relationship with food. Some things I’ve learned:
– I now know that I’ve never really experienced “hunger” – not eating 13 meals in a row did not not make me feel hungry!
– Tummy grumbles are not hunger – drinking a glass of water or tea makes them go away!
– What I previously called “hunger” is all in the mind – the body is more than capable of surviving on stored fat. But the mind is powerful.
– Meal times are just artificial societal norms – there is usually absolutely no physical need to eat at these designated times
– We are continuously bombarded with advertising all urging us to eat, eat, eat – It’s no wonder we’ve become such mindless consumers. I found all the messaging increasingly repulsive. It’s frightening how much conditioning we are subject to every day
– Eating is an incredibly pleasurable experience – I need to slow down and learn to savour every mouthful. Mindful eating is key

So now the stats – at my weigh in I was down 1.4kgs for the week, taking me to 69.8kgs (sub 70 – whoop! whoop!). I know some of that was the water weight from clearing out my glycogen stores, but very happy with the result. My blood sugars were beautifully stable all week. I ate normal BSD style on Sunday and saw a small regain overnight. I decided to fast again from after Sunday night dinner and I’ve now completed 3 days this week. I find it much easier to fast during the day while I’m active at work. The mental games are harder to resist in the evenings! I’m taking this week day by day, but have decided to end this round by Friday night at the latest.

Stay strong everyone!

Fantastic result TumtumP, well done!! 👏

Hi All!

I have been reading the thread with my phone and all the comments and replies have been so helpful, thank you all very much!

I used my day off yesterday to go through the book and do some shopping. I emptied my cupboards of Slimming World paraphernalia (most processed carbs and pasta etc.) then restocked with LBSD essentials. I know we cannot post photos here but I will be documenting my diet on Instagram if anyone uses the app I would love to follow you – I am better with visuals!! My name is hellosallybearface.

I batched cooked the Roasted pepper and Butternut Squash Soup at 150cal/22gcarb per portion (Makes 4 portions), Easy Bolognese sauce at 170cal/5g Carb per portion (Makes 6), Chicken Satay at 460cal/10g carb per portion (makes 2) and lastly Stuffed Red Peppers at 120cal/10g Carbs per potion (makes 1 Portion in the book but I doubled up to make 2)

As a bonus and to keep motivated I weighed myself this morning and I have lost more weight, making my total since the 2nd January around 6.5lbs I think?! Starting weight 15st 10.lb – Current Weight 15st 3 1/2 lbs

WOO! 🙂 Libby

Morning all January losers! So pleased to see the successes here..Tumtum and Mum… congratulations!

Getyour carbon…I’m not any kind of scientist or nutritionist but I believe we’re supposed to add salt to replace that which is lost through weight loss and drinking so much more. You might want to check that out…a lack of salt might make you feel shaky.

Well after my fling with the mince pies I’m back to 98kg after seeing a gain of 300g over 2 days. Were the mince pies worth it? Probably not..the jury’s still out on that one. Mince pies are my favourite Christmas food and these were the only ones I ate so on balance I enjoyed them but am glad I binned what was left.

Wish I had the nerve to do that!

TP
Well done, keep up the good work. This eating plan can have fantastic results in the first few weeks, those that have stayed with it for months have had phenomenal results, so all is possible

Just wish the temptations of life would leave me alone?

Hi

It is great that so many vegans are joining up.

I’m a vegan and in my first week of the BSD 800. It is hard as a vegan and I have found there is a lot to read and adjustments to make but this forum has lots of good advice.

I would advise you to do a search for “vegan” in the search box on this site and you will find loads of information. Members are sharing their experiences, tips, recipes and much more.

Personally it was hard to adjust my eating to the ratios but I have managed it. Many people are using an app to help. I can’t imagine how you could measure cals, carbs, fat and protein otherwise. I use myfitnesspal which is free and you can set your own goals even on the free version.

Also on myfitnesspal some very kind person has entered all the BSD recipes which you can find by entering BSD in the food database section.

Good luck and welcome.

First Weigh In
Week 2 day 2 and I’ve lost 12.3 lbs (5.5kg) and 5.5″ off my waist.
Ecstatic is an understatement. WOW! That takes me over half way to my waist target and nearly a quarter to my weight loss. Happy happy day 😊