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  • Mermaid…excellent news on the weight loss. Well done.

    The chemical structure of sugar and alcohol is similar, I’ve been told. Of course alcohol is what happens when yeast n sugar get together. And there’s an old American saying: “Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker”. Esnecca has some very motivating things to say – thank you. Let’s keep on at this and as you said – face the obsessive addictive sugar pangs instead of giving in.

  • Esnecca and SaltySeaBird,

    Thank you both. Wise thoughts, wise words.

    I’ve read so much about sugar since about the year 2000, (for anyone who’s interested in some good reads from different angles: Potatoes not Prozac; Fat Chance: The bitter truth about sugar; OMG I Would Die Without Chocolate – How I Quit Sugar and Didn’t Kill Anyone) following which I tried to detox from it n-times. Each time I swore I wouldn’t touch the stuff again.

    Obviously I know I have a problem, and have failed, time and time again. It’s not lack of healthy eating; I’ve long been a big fan of the Mediterranean Diet. I put on 15kg while writing my thesis (just having sugary somethings to get me through) and another 10kg since then. Actually more, because inbetween I have been yoyo-dieting for over 20 years.

    I might have a look at Paul McKenna. Or meditate.

    Thing is, we actually need to live in and around sugar. The hard part is staying on the wagon.

  • Bigeater, well done for being in control. I am not ready to take that step yet, but I am confident I will eventually. I love strawberries and cream, but alas, they don’t love me. So if you would….pick the biggest juiciest strawberry and as you eat it, savour it and think, this is for Mary ….cheers.

  • I agree whole-heartedly with Esnecca – I gave up sugar for 3 months and still thought of it as a ‘treat’; I eventually succumbed to vanilla latte (I know….) and before I knew it I was well and truly hooked again.
    I think somewhere else on this thread, it is suggested that you find something non-food as a treat for when you feel you deserve one but think of sugar for what it is – an addictive poison which will damage your body and brain.
    For a nudge, have a look at Paul McKenna’s Stop Your Sugar Cravings – apart from telling you the truth about what sugar does to you (and it’s really not pretty), he has his relaxing mind-programming audios which really do help ward off the cravings.
    Good luck with this – everyone on this thread knows what a monster sugar-addiction is.
    SSB

  • Yay Lizzie, welcome back. Poor you having such a rough time. You do have a way of explaining things that is so refreshing, and I love reading about everything that happens to you.

    Lee, when I was 30 I decided to lose the one and a half stone I had gained, and got to my pre-baby weight. Everyone told me I was gaunt and had gone too far. It was no good reminding them that I was back at “normal” weight. There are always nay-sayers and they get my back up. I did find however, the last time this happened to me (which was a very long time ago). When asked have you lost weight…I said yes isn’t it fantastic I feel so much better now….then they can’t give you their negative shit! Just bask in the knowledge that you have a size 14 dress that fits fantastically well. We know how great you are, so sod them if they don’t.

    Love Mary
    xxxx

  • I wouldn’t do it, if I were you (which I was). Thinking of sugar as a “treat” instead of a toxic substance that has done real damage to your body over the years is part of the problem. Detoxing from sugar and white carbs is difficult because the addiction preys on your mind. Giving in to that pull will only strengthen it and weaken you. For many of us, that one chocolate or sliver of pie quickly turns into a carb bender that can last hours, days, weeks, months. Even if you’re lucky enough to avoid that fate, and given how much sugar still dominates your thoughts the best case scenario is probably unlikely, you’ll set your progress back. Your body will revert to burning carbs, not fat, and mentally you could find yourself back in the white-knuckle hell of week one.

    You’re on the BSD for 8 weeks. That’s a very short time, so just do it straight. Confront your obsessive thoughts instead of giving into them. You are not sugar’s slave. Don’t grovel and abase yourself to it. You are the sole master of your body.

  • posted by  RozyDozy on Starting the last push to ultimate goal today ….
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    Hi SunnyB,
    I’ve had an up/down week, too. Got things seemingly back under control (i.e. back under 10st) and even managed a new low of 9st 12lb 4oz (which is only 2oz better than the previous low). But me being me, I’ve bounced back up again. I don’t fare well when I’m feeling low/tired/headachey – I thought things were improving when I upped my intake of H2O and I didn’t feel hungry over Thurs/Fri but Saturday (even though I ate similar quantities of meals) I really started to feel hungry and I wobbled big time. But today I’ve started to feel more like normal so I’m hopeful of getting back on track…

    We can’t afford to let up, just got to keep on top of things. Any going AWOL has to be nipped in the bud. I am NOT going to end up at 12.5stone again. And I’m sure you feel the same.

  • Only you Liz!!!
    I love the characters you habitually come across (and their bonkers names!)

    Sorry you had such a crappy (in every sense of the word) Birthday but I can’t help but laugh at your shenanigans (isn’t that a great word??)

    I’ve had to endure that age old phenomenon today. Example:
    Lee, you’ve lost so much weight now, you need to stop (turns to colleague doesn’t she Maria?) Maria nods quietly. All helpfully shouted across a busy ward.

    Lee. You’ve lost so much weight, is it intentionally or are you ill? Do we need to worry about you?

    Lee. You’ve lost so much weight since I last saw you. How much have you lost? Lee replies (about two stone) Yeah they say, and the rest. Are you ok?

    Lee. Are you eating enough? You don’t look well. Is everything ok?

    Lee. You need a cake. Go on, have a cake. It’s homemade.

    All day people. Seriously all day!! Why do people feel that it’s appropriate to do that? I ended up leaving work early just to get away from the constant harassment!! May well work from home tomorrow….

    On a positive note, beautiful size 14 dress arrived today (which I ordered for the funeral) and it fits like a dream. So yes people, it is worth it. The battle with carbs 🍞 🎂 🍟 and 🍷 is one worth doing. So well done to you all my comrades in arms!

    Sorry to rant at you all, just had to get it off my chest!

    L 😘

  • Thanks all well day one is done and feeling good and found having a black coffee no sugar after my last meal has filled me up if I have a wobble I jus log into this forum to keep me motivated just reading everyones journeys helps thanks for all the advice it really helps.

  • posted by  Canadaliz on New life choice for determined alcoholic
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    Hey Peeps, Am back. Okay, so where to begin. First off–there is so much to respond to but I will do that later today. And oh my God– FLORIDA IS AS HOT AS SATAN’S BALLS IN JULY!!! We had to get here as we have sold our home here in Sarasota and need to move stuff out. Anyway, yesterday was my birthday and I mostly spent it in roadside toilets between South Carolina and here with a terminal case of the squirts. And barfed a couple of times. On the first day on the road I was feeling like shit, bloated, sore tits etc. but didn’t think I would actually get a period though and thought it was just due to all of the upheaval what with selling the Florida house etc. I don’t like change at all–ever. Virtuous me prepared healthy food for the road but maybe the cool packs weren’t enough after 12 hours as by the wee hours of day 2 I was seriously crapping for Canada. I’m talking gripping the seat, feet off the floor, rocket propelled shits.
    But to make my day even better, yes, my birthday….I got my “lady bleed” (new term for me….keep reading) and didn’t have any jam rags……oh, I bought a box of vampire mice just the day before we left as I had period symptoms……. and left them on the kitchen counter back home. Idiot me. I seriously didn’t think I would actually get a period as haven’t had one in months AND AM 50 FUCKING 4–SO ENOUGH ALREADY. It’s funny, I was standing in line at the pharmacy thinking the girl probably thinks I’m buying them for my daughter as I’m way too old for these.
    So anyway, here’s how my crimson wave adventure went…..
    There I was with my Kev in the Deep South, barreling down I-95 through Georgia and Hell-bent for Florida, when I got my period. As we were stopping due to my squirts anyway at every roadside toilet I figured I would get some necessaries at the next gas station. Funnily, Kev finds any mention of ‘lady issues’ very unsettling but will happily gently calm and support me as I grip the dashboard in the throes of ass cramps trying not to shit my pants before the next roadside bathroom. This is a man that will race lights and sirens to an industrial accident, dislodge a severed arm from a machine, provide lifesaving care to the recent amputee but yet ask him to pick up tampons on the way home from work and he comes over all funny. About twenty years ago I added Tampax to a short grocery list that included cheese, milk, tea bags, green beans, bread and a red pepper….he came home with a bottle of Bourbon; he had drawn his line in the sand and I have kept mention of any lady related issues to a minimum.

    Anyway, so the day before the trip I was out picking up bits and pieces like you do before a trip and bought a box of menthol infused tissues which I thought would A: keep the car smelling fresh….which by day two with me, Kev and the dog can get pretty rank and B: would meet our nasal needs as we both suffer allergies once we get south of Georgia as they are in full seasonal bloom and it hits us both hard. As such, and in desperate need, I discreetly grabbed a good dozen minty fresh tissues and stuffed them in my knickers until further more suitable measures could be undertaken.

    At my request we pulled into the next gas hut and Kev began to fill the tank. I entered the store and combed each aisle under the watchful eye of the proprietress to no avail. Passing the hotdogs gently rolling on the hot bars under the heat lamps, and the slurpee machine offering 34 flavours, they had every possible creature in the form of jerky (dehydrated meat/salt) but no tampons. I was about to give up when I spotted them…..behind the counter. Between me and the peace of mind only another woman can understand was the biggest , and IIIIIIIIIIII mean biggest lady of African American persuasion I had ever seen. Big. Like 550lbs big. And yes, this actually happened….even I couldn’t make this shit up.

    “SUGAR! CAN I HELP YOU WITH SOMTHIN’?” she drawled at full volume.

    “Yes, um, I wondered if I could have, um, (vaguely pointing behind her) something of ,well, um, a lady’s nature?” I stammered with an accompanying fan-like flutter of my fingers in the region of my own deep south. Yes, I’m 54 and can’t ask for tampons.

    Therein followed a long pause as she considered my request…. and then the light went on.

    “YOU MEAN YOU BIN AND GOT YO LADY BLEED ON YO HOLIDAY?! WHATCHALL GO AN DONE THAT FO’? THAT IT AIN’T IT? YOU GOT YO LADY BLEED! WELL AIN’T THAT THE CUTEST THING I EVER DID HEAR—YOU WANT SOMETHIN’ OF A LAAAAADY NATURE. A FIRST I’M THINKIN’ HAIRSPRAY BUT THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU WIGGLIN’ YALL’S FINGAS AND THOUGHT NO LASHEENA SHE TALKIN’ ABOUT HER LADY BLEED—JUST A SECON’…..(she turns towards the door behind and calls through the bead curtain) LABAYA………LABAAAAAYA………LA—A—BAAAAAAAYA!!!!!!!

    (after a few long moments Labaya emerges through the beads…..well, mostly, and stops with some of the strands still draping on her shoulder…. and let’s just say Labaya was Lasheena’s even bigger sister.)

    ‘LABAYA, COME HERE AND MEET THIS CANADIAN LADY, I KNOWS YOU IS CANADIAN ‘CAUSE YOU IS SO DAMNED PO-LITE (turning to me) GO ON, TELL HER WHAT YOU AX ME.)

    wtf? I think

    “GO ON, TELL HER LIKE YOU AX ME FOR THE YOU KNOW AND DO THE FINGERS.”

    At this juncture I must mention that my body heat had caused the menthol infused tissues to release their caustic oils and my undercarriage was beginning to feel as if I had douched with peppermint schnapps.

    Desperate to end this journey into the Twilight Zone I humoured the gargantuan keeper of the tampons and offered a quiet “I asked your sister if she had anything of a lady’s nature.”

    “DO THE FINGERS!!”

    I did the fingers which launched over 1000lbs of female flesh into hysterical laughter.

    Then LaBaya offered: ‘GIRL, YOU SHOULDDA BIN HERE BUT A HALF HOUR PAST. THIS NEW YORK GIRL, AND YOU KNOOOOOOWS WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAYS NEW YORK GIRL (I didn’t but smiled and nodded in the hope that a positive acknowledgment was the precious token required to persuade the keepers of the tampons to dispense the sacred grail), WELL SHE COMES IN BOOOOOLD AS A HOG ON APPLES (no idea) AND SAYS SHE WANTS SOME COMDONS (sic), AND SHE NEVER SO MUCH AS BLINKED MAY THE GRACIOUS LORD LOVE HER. SO I SAYS TO LASHEENA I SAYS ‘LASHEENA, IT’S THE 20TH CENTURY (clearly in shithole county Georgia) AND WOMENS IS THAY’S OWN BOSS AND AIN’T AFEARED OF AXIN’ FO NOTHIN’ AND THEN YOU COMES IN AND YOU’S ALL LIKE ‘THINGS OF A LAAAAAAAADY’S NATURE.”

    Again, they are reduced to tears and laughter whilst fanning their fingers over their lady parts then each grasping the counter intermittently to catch their breath, each further offering numerous ‘OOOOOOOOOOOH MY SWEET SACRED LOOOOOOOORD.”

    Aaaaaand then LaSheena remembers her sister’s camping trip.

    “LABAYA, REMEMBER WHEN YOU WENTS CAMPIN’ AND YOU GOT YO LADY BLEED AND JOE PAUL, (turning to me and whispering) he was a white boy you know, GIVED YOU A ROLL OF, (at which point LaBaya delivered her sister an arm slap, so turning to me to continue, and under her breath as if mention of her sister’s monthly deserved appropriate discretion but my circumstance was suitable for broadcast such that the trucker at pump 74 could hear as he filled his rig with diesel)….. he done handed her a handful of paper towel and a roll of duct tape and said make do ‘cause there was no ways he was goin’ in to town for no lady gear….”

    Okay then.

    Aaaaaaand then LaBaya, feeling my life would not be complete without sharing how her grandmother dealt with her lady bleed, offered a mercifully briefish account of how back in the day (probably last month) they wrapped old cloth around Spanish Moss and cotton buds.

    Alrighty then.

    “SO WHATCHALL WANT THE INSIDE POKIES OR THE OUTSIDE BIGGIE CLOTHS…THESE ONES GOT WINGS?” (she offered whilst examining the box then holding it up and pointing out the wings).

    “Cyanide if it’s not too much to ask” replied my inside voice silently just as my Kev came in wondering what was holding up the road trip.

    ‘IS THIS YO HUSBAND? OH WEEZ TALKIN’ ABOUT THINGS OF A LADY’S NATURE!!!! He left without question.

    I finally got the requisite “lady gear”, retreated to the restroom, then return to the car, after receiving numerous “GOD BLESS YOU GIRL”(s) to find my Kev waiting patiently or rather too afraid to ask about the cause for the delay. So between an ass as red as a baboon’s–sore from all the wiping due to my turbo shits episode AND my fucking period plus still healing from the humiliation of having to actually ask a total stranger for lady gear I’m feeling a bit fragile. BUT have not had booze and am off now to the pool for a soak.

    I’ll have a proper read of all of your news tonight and respond as I go. Love you chicks huge. No wait. I hugely love you chicks. No. Fuck–drop the huge and just know I love you. Fuck. Not demanding you lose weight. Love you the way you are and am off for a cup of tea to think of you and reset my goals. I can’t use the “but I had a shit birthday (HAHAHAHA–ACTUALLY HAD THE SHITS ON MY BIRTHDAY) and deserve a treat” line that was creeping into my logic. Tea and you will realign me.

    Menstrually yours, Liz

  • Hi sweet things/ sugar lovers!

    Day 3 of week 3 and 4.5 kg down since BSD started! I’m pretty pleased with myself, so far! Weight loss has come in fits and starts, rather than smoothly. Zero in week 2, then whoosh!

    I am feeling better, clear headed etc. but sometimes tired (I workout a lot). However, I think about food all the time. I wish I could say that I’m over sugar, but I know who would survive if me and a chocolate cake were locked in a room… so I must see myself as an addict. Once a sugarholic, always a sugarholic? I like a drink, but can resist when necessary.

    I’ve promised myself a treat after 4 weeks on the BSD, is that crazy? Or should I train myself to be able to have a little every now and again?

  • Hi, on a slightly similar question. I think 800 calories is quite low and I therefore wonder if it’s ok to “eat” the calories earned from exercise. I usually earn 200-300 calories a day from walking, but sometimes on long day walks it’s 1000 according to My Fitness Pal. Is it ok to eat more calories on these days, providing it’s still low carb?

  • posted by  stringbreaker on 2017 Lucia
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    Hi Lucia,

    Found you at last (I only switch on my computer occasionally and I can’t reply easily from my phone)

    So what’s the “new challenge” you mentioned in yours of 29th June?

    John

  • posted by  stringbreaker on Target weight
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    Lynne,

    Nice to catch up.

    Well done everybody.

    Bissell, SNAP (154lbs). I was last this weight in 1993 and have finally arrived back at my “targe” via 16 stones in 2010. As I’ve shrunk by 2 inches since then, I reckon I reallyh ought to go for 147lbs so here goes…..

    Thank goodness for MM and the Prof

    John

  • Many thanks for this. Your diet sounds similar to mine and I exercise daily – swim,gym, walking or Pilates. I don’t include any extra calories for exercise at the moment. I will stick with it at least until the 8 weeks is up and hopefully the weight will start to move again soon. At least reading the forum you realise the weight doesn’t drop off as quickly as the book states. Thanks again.

  • posted by  TofiEm on Advice for Tofi's out there
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    I started the BSD back in February and have since been following the way of life style of eating and can’t praise it highly enough. I would make just one main point however for the lean diabetics or those referred to on here as “Tofi’s”. I struggled to find much guidance for those who are already pretty lean and considered myself a Tofi even though my waist measurement was 31 inches at the start (I’m 5 foot 9). Whilst I feel better, look younger and am in better shape than at any time during my life, some of my sugars have simply failed to come down regardless of how strict my eating plan is, how strenuous the HIIT I engage in and no matter how much research I do I into bedtime snacks/cider vinegar etc(!) or at least the improvements are often short lived. Being a bit of a control freak I have researched this extensively and uncovered a huge amount of information about the great number of reasons for type 2 that are not necessarily visceral fat and therefore unlikely be cured that way either (although less fat on your body can only be a good thing). Dr Moseley’s book made me incredibly wary of medication – I’m certainly glad I have delayed taking any as it’s allowed me to assess the real impact of any changes and as my sugar levels weren’t rocket high, it shouldn’t have done too much harm but given my research, I would give a word of caution for those lean newly diagnosed diabetics out there. If it isn’t visceral fat that is your problem (i.e. your waist measurement is below the threshold dr Moseley mentions) it may be that your type 2 is caused by one of a number of genetic defects that is causing the destruction of your beta cells and preserving those you have left is crucial and combined with all the changes Dr Moseley advocates, small amounts of medication may actually the best way of preserving those you have left/giving the existing ones a rest to allow function to be restored. I will forever be in Dr Moseley’s debt for explaining the condition to me in such an accessible way, giving me some evidence based hope and above all, the motivation to make different decisions about eating and exercise every single day and also one that my family could get to grips with but don’t necessarily presume that medication is the beginning of the end. It may give your body the little break it needs to get back on track. I’m not yet taking any but have been able to open my mind to it a little and thought perhaps others with small waist measurements should be aware.

  • Hi caz1973, glad you have started, as I said in another post you are well organised and that will go a long way to help.

    The science of the water thing is that everyone should drink 8 x 250 ml glasses of fluid (as SunnyB says doesn’t just have to be water) but very few people do. The importance of water on this diet is that fat leaves your body via your urine so you will know when it is working as you will be peeing for England, or wherever you are. You need to replace this water. Water also helps you feel fuller but will not do anything for the carb cravings, you just have to go cold turkey and not give in. Drinking more water will help prevent constipation. While you are losing so much water and replacing it you are flushing minerals from the body and you need them too, so if you have any cramps, dizziness, faintness etc add a little salt on your food, just a little. If you suffer badly it might be worth buying some mineral replacements sachets (Diaorlyte is a famous one) but this should not be necessary. I personally use some pure salt or have a drink of Andrews Liver Salts (also good for constipation). Yes, you can still buy it. If you are in hot weather like England LOL, you might want to drink a bit more.

    I always have a 1 litre jug in the fridge and try to always have a glass of water next to me. Enjoy.

  • posted by  JulesMaigret on Kombucha, is it ok?
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    Hi Michael

    You’re absolutely right. In commercial Kombucha there will be always be a sizeable residual sugar level to ensure the effervescent quality is maintained over a shelf-life. I’d imagine in home-made, the chances are that the sugar content will be higher, unless you keep a small hydrometer in the kitchen 😉

    But sugar is, as you say, sugar.

  • posted by  sunshine-girl on SERIOUSLY DOING THE FAST 800 AGAIN, JOIN ME
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    Welcome back V, I wish my pounds would whoosh off, they seem to be sticking like glue, even after a good weekend. Can only put it down to not having done any exercise for the last 4 or 5 days with all this rain. Must be a shock to my body after doing 50 to 80 mins a day before. The sun is set to reappear tomorrow but the pool is cold now so I will just have to brave it. It is lovely once you get in.

    Not looking forward to my weigh in tomorrow but will be here anyway. Hope the rest of you are doing well.

  • posted by  Jenni from the Block on Kombucha, is it ok?
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    Carbs and calories are the basis of the BSD and Michael Mosley’s writings. They are also the basis of research from University of Newcastle. Let’s leave the discussion here.

  • posted by  Snoop on New life choice for determined alcoholic
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    Lol Bigeater. And with regard to the cream, if you’ve got spare calories and can fit it in within your 800 calories, it’s BSD friendly.

    I occasionally do a dish consisting of courgetti cooked in a bit of butter with a sauce made of cherry toms, smoked salmon and creme fraiche. Delicious. Feels very rich and decadent, but not that many calories in fact. It’s a one pan meal: fry the courgetti till nearly done, add some halved cherry toms and cook again till relatively soft, then add the smoked salmon followed by the creme fraiche and heat till hot. Eat with joy.

  • Fba12 – That’s great your sugars are improving, as you said, might have just been an adjustment period going off the medication.

    Hah, I’m certainly not the model of a perfect diet on this eating plan 🙂 I go over the calorie limit most days because I go to the gym and burn about 400cals, so I tend to eat about 1300 cals a day, which works out at around 900cal if you account for the exercise. I’m sure lots of people don’t do that, but it’s still working so seems to be ok for me.

    I eat eggs, lettuce and tomatoes for breakfast most days (eggs cooked in a tsp of butter), salad with all sorts of veggies, chicken and some olive oil for lunch and then some kind of meat and veggies for dinner, often a stir fry or something like that. I eat nuts or greek yogurt if I need a snack before the gym.

  • posted by  bigeater on New life choice for determined alcoholic
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    Hi,

    I recently wrote that I seem to be a binge drinker albeit infrequent. While I think wine doesn’t play a healthy part in weight loss, I have allowed myself a couple of glasses lately. Each glass 100 ml and what a miracle – I didn’t reach for more glasses. Obviously I CAN stop when I want to. Seems it only took a bit of mindfulness. Before I go congratulating myself any further, will report on progress in a while.

    Have had a penchant for strawberries and cream lately. A real treat but doesn’t cream contain some calories.

    Am continuing the BSD, same same, though have had a change from trousers falling down – ripped a pair from waist to god knows where the other night. Seems I also have a penchant for showing my arse!

    On that note, I will leave off. Hopefully your arses are covered and your tummies full of lovely bsd food.

    Bigeater

  • Hi caz1973
    Hope your first day goes well. Extra water will not help with carb ‘flu, as this is about the symptoms of withdrawal from carbs, in the form of headaches, dizziness, feeling groggy etc. It is important to drink more, to ensure good hydration though and is vital to the body’s functioning well. I don’t think it is an exaggeration to say the majority of people are under hydrated – I know historically I certainly was. Be sure to drink a minimum of 2Lts and a bit more if you can manage it. There are conflicting views as to whether the fluids you take should be largely clear water, or if coffees and teas count in the overall intake. I personally count all my drinks – weak decaf with almond milk, herbal teas, tea or coffee with cream, plain water or water with a twist of lemon, everything.

    It sounds like you have done plenty of prep and I’m sure you will soon be posting positive results. Best of luck for some great results.

  • posted by  SunnyB on Starting the last push to ultimate goal today ….
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    Hey everyone – hope people are still doing well and managing to inch closer to their ultimate goal.

    After a particularly good result at last week’s weigh-in, I had to expect things not to be so fantastic this week. And if I’m honest, I have had an up and down week on the scales and with visitors staying over the w/e, there was inevitably a little alcohol and a couple of carby items I wouldn’t normally have – an ice cream and a focaccia roll. So registering a loss of 0.2lb for the week is not surprising and has to be accepted with good grace. Back to it today though and hopefully a better result at next weeks final weigh-in.

    Hope to read lots of positive results for others this week. Has anyone reached a new low or hit that ultimate target this week? Looking forward to reading all about it.

  • posted by  SunnyB on First 8 weeks
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    Hi Rabbitoh4 – I have always done my own menu for the BSD and I would add that making sure to include fats in your meals is also important. Hope it goes well for you and you will soon be reporting positive results.

  • Too late for me FFBB, as I had a hysterectomy 11 years ago. So glad you aren’t getting it though….as if it wasn’t enough to feel like your uterus is falling out of your nether regions, why do we have to have PMT. Let’s hope it’s a permanent thing that you missed it this month.

    Mary
    xxx

  • This is an interesting turn of events (to me).

    Got my period 4 days early. I wasn’t surprised that much as my breasts have been tender over the weekend so I was prepared (which shows how important it is to listen to our bodies/systems).

    What did surprise me is that I have had NO PMT. Ever since I started my periods at 15 I have had awful PMT, I am a bitch, my temper is short, I don’t suffer fools gladly and generally have to bite my tongue to stop myself upsetting people. I also burst into tears at the drop of a hat! This has been the standard for 2-3 days out of every month for years.

    Through being a size 14 up to a size 26 one constant has been 2-3 days of hormone induced bitchiness a month until now. The PMT was easier on LCHF but I still had symptoms.

    I don’t know if this is usual on a low calorie diet (I still have the usual bad cramps/poop issues/flow) but I will monitor it.

    I am wondering if this has happened to anyone else?

    FFBB. X

  • posted by  Julia18togo on SERIOUSLY DOING THE FAST 800 AGAIN, JOIN ME
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    Verano maybe those pounds will drop off in a few days like other holiday returners. If you were on a plane then water retention is massive.
    Enjoying being away from work and lots of sunshine and really enjoying Mallorquin food. Lots of fish which I love. Managed a run each morning although not up to my usual speed. It is hotter than Scotland though so as long as I am moving each morning I’m happy.
    Food wise have had the odd ice cream but avoided starch with meals. Will be over in terms of calories the last 2 days in the hotel but today moving to house in middle of nowhere and self catering so easier to calculate intake. Hopefully keeping moving each morning will be a help.
    Have a good week all!

  • posted by  Antigone on SERIOUSLY DOING THE FAST 800 AGAIN, JOIN ME
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    Only just come back to the forums so trying to catch up! Like some of you I did really well last year on the Fast 800 but then relaxed over xmas and ever since! I started back in earnest last week and I can feel a difference already! I’m not weighing just yet as I want to feel really in control before I risk any negativity! I think I have gained some back but hopefully not too much – we’ll see. Hardest think right now is passing up all the gorgeous fruit 🙁 Great start Purple Minion! Have a good week everyone 🙂

  • posted by  Chasing_Lions on Started 29th May 2017
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    Hello Lee,

    I’m doing ok. Weight coming off has been stubborn but I’ve managed to shed two inches off my hips which feels awesome.

    Attacking this week with more determination and think I’m going to carry on with this an extra 2 weeks to make up for the 2 bad weeks lol.

    My hubby said he’s noticed a change in me. He said I have more energy and seem happier. People are starting to ask if I’ve lost weight as well which is good because it means that the change is showing.

    My daughters sports day today and a thousand other things going on at work = stress central! Trying to keep these cravings under control and not drink too much coffee. Doesn’t help that some international guests have turned up today with sweets and chocolates.

  • posted by  Antigone on Walking to Rivendell
    on in Fast Exercise
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    HelloAll! I have only just seen this thread. Genius! Thank you melb100 for sharing the link. I’m looking forward to this – what fun!

  • posted by  Luckylinda on Daily target for carbs, protein and fat
    on in Starting the BSD
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    Hi Rabbit – if you do a search there will be a lot of threads on this and some very good advice. I use fatsecret to log my protein, carbs, fat daily but there is another site alot of people use here not sure what it is called. I think most keep their carbs under 50 – I don’t as I have a specific diet which doesn’t include meat/dairy. Everyone’s body is as individual as their personality and what may work for one may not work for another. If you are doing this for T2 then my best advice is to eliminate all rice, potatoes, pasta and processed foods. If you do this you will soon find that carb intake reduces significantly and you are on your way! I eat a plant based diet so my carbs are much higher but got really good results despite this. Reversed T2 and lost a great amount of weight so far. The first couple weeks will be hard (damn hard) but once you break through you will be amazed at how good you feel. Just remember to drink plenty of water – gallons 🙂 and best of luck on your journey – it really does work.

  • posted by  Ancient Weaver on Fussy eater
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    Seriously, NO veg? What do you put in a beef stew? Most soups have some sort of veg in them too.
    Tomatoes, pulses and onions are hard to avoid.
    I guess it might be possible to get all the necessary vitamins and roughage that you would get from veg from fruit, but no veg at all is incredibly limiting to any kind of healthy eating.

    Personally I’m finding that cutting out the starchier vegetables has significantly reduced my kitchen repertoire, and avoiding carrots and parsnips is especially frustrating, as they are my boys favourite veggies.

  • posted by  Verano on SERIOUSLY DOING THE FAST 800 AGAIN, JOIN ME
    on in Fast 800
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    Hi back home again now and the total damage is 5.6lbs. It could have been a lot worse so I’m not too upset. I’m spending the next eight days back on a ‘short, sharp shock’ to get me back into the zone for the last four weeks of this challenge.

    This week I will stay with 900/40 to ease myself back into true low carb eating. Then for the last three weeks plan on doing 800/30. So here goes …. I’m keeping on keeping on …..

    Hope you are all doing well.

  • Thanks for your reply. Sugars seem to be improving last couple of days so whether it just takes time for the body to adjust to no medication? I am hungry most of the time which happened when I first started low carbs a year ago. To be expected on 800 calories I suppose but when the weight isn’t coming off it is a bit demotivating. Yesterday I had smoked salmon and scrambled eggs for brunch and a large salad with tuna and few olives for dinner. Hungry all evening! Few walnuts to try and stave off the hunger pains. Sugars were ok. Can you give me an idea of your typical diet for a day? Thanks.