Welcome to the forums Inka! I felt the same when I did the diabetes assessment. I know how horrendous diabetes can be as I have a friend with renal problems and the renal ward usually has a lot of diabetics who have lost limbs and are often blind as well. It certainly scared the life out of me – I really don’t want to get it – so I am eating this way for life!!! Bill is right – there really should be a lot more media coverage about this and a massive campaign. I really hope it happens fast.
Good luck on this journey, we’re all in it together! 🙂

Hi GiCo, I’ve had friends round and managed using the diet recipes. One suggestion:

starter: either the grapefruit ,avocado cheese dish or avocado bacon lettuce cups or veggie soup

Main : home made curry with chickpea flour flatbreads or cottage pie with cauli topping

Dessert: yoghurt with berries or coconut flat breads with cream and berries.

I’ve tended to save up my calories and had very small portions OR I skip the starter and use the excuse of frying the flatbreads fresh so they are hot to have with a curry. For dessert I’ll have just a few of the berries.

People have really enjoyed these kind of meals – they don’t even notice the lack of carbs!! If one of your guests is diabetic they will feel a difference!!
Good luck!! 🙂

Hi Inka you bring up a good point
For years the public has had no understanding of the disease. When I was a kid if you knew someone who had it you said “oh he’s got sugar” and that was it.
It wasn’t until a friend of my dad’s who had it died after having various body parts amputated that it hit home just how serious this could be.
Sadly I know only too well how bad retinopathy can be, neuropathy and gangrene are also major risks apart from little personal effects that you don’t mention. The old adage “a diabetic wants to die with both eyes and both feet still intact” rings true
It’s about time that there was a massive media campaign in the same way as they do for cancer to inform people not only about the disease but to suggest ways of putting it right.
After all this is a world wide epidemic now and it needs to be dealt with ASAP
They say the human race is destroying the planet, we’re not doing too shabby a job on destroying our health!

Hi
I thought in the book it said you could store your info on this website, weight, measurements etc. (can’t remember which page). Anyone has any ideas please?

Worst ones will have a clickable link, others just a product name.
You can report if you wish, I did notice the last diet pill quack had their post removed.

Welcome Inka, those are impressive results 🙂 you are certainly taking the right steps to prevent any future issues with diabetes.

Well I’ve been blissfully ignorant about all that, thank you Bill for explaining. Devious means of promoting their own interests. So do we report those posts, ignore them, and how can you tell it’s a backlink? Is it just that they mention a diet or product?
So glad you’re on the ball Bill 🙂

Yes, I have. Started on Monday. Was 96kg and this morning I was 94.2kg. Cant believe this seems to be working. I must have just about tried all the diets under the sun to no avail. Its early early days though, but I am determined to loose. I have not been diagnosed with diabetes, but after reading all the indicators about pre-diabetes in the book, this could be me. My waist circumference and BMI speak volumes. Pretty scary what diabetes can do to you! I am looking forward to sharing my progress with you and hear about yours 🙂

Hello Everyone

I’m a great fan of Michael Mosley and got his book yesterday, haven’t read it all yet, (I will) but I wanted to get started today so the first day or two will probably be a bit of a traction time as I adjust my fridge content!
So far today I’ve not eaten anything yet…. normally by now, (10.30am) I will have had my homemade muesli and possibly be thinking about a snack to keep me going until lunch, I have drunk lots!
I’m at home for a few days so can make some of the recipes which look great so thank you for those and I will aim to freeze things that I can.
I am concerned about when I return to work, I work in a hotel restaurant and we get fed, which is great but…… some of the shifts are long and one or two days a week you may not have access to food for 4 – 5+ hours, (always have drinks available). On those days I fill up on a large breakfast at work, understandably I want to change that but it is a very hot and busy environment and I can’t afford to start feeling lightheaded etc. The other issue is you can’t eat the same time each day because of times you start work. In the past when time is short I have used milkshake replacements, (a very famous slim….t diet company). Will it still be okay to use these sometimes or will it defeat the object of the diet? I love veg, raw and cooked so will still be able to eat those at some point during the day and can get the protein from meat and fish etc… it will however be rather difficult to know how many calories I’m getting, hence the milkshake replacement would help me to count the calories.
Thank you all for being here with your suggestions and great support of others…… I’m off to get breakfast now!

thank-you 🙂 an yes, I was bouncing off of the walls yesterday when I did my weigh in yesterday. I was even more shocked when I went to get changed later in the day for a meeting and found what I had planned to wear was too big – and I got into some ‘motivation buys’ from the sales that were meant for the autumn and are a full dress size smaller! Although not prediabetic, by blood sugar was high and about to get into that range, yesterdays FBS was 5.0 mmol/day. This really does work!

Hi olisue
one of the posters on here , captainlynne contacted the team about this and they said that it’s ok to continue past the 8 weeks if you are feeling ok. I know hashimoto is continuing and so will I when the time comes as I have more weight to lose.

He he
the body does play some strange tricks doesn’t it ?
Your weight can vary by up to 4 lbs either way on any given day due to reasons only known to itself. That’s why I weigh just once a week same day same time. I haven’t quite got to that desperation point where I empty my pockets and virtually srtip off in the chemists before getting weighed 😀

Love getting new ideas from this.
Today’s plan
B blueberry green tea shake
L Cheesy beans
D ginger lime soy salmon with spiral veggies.

So here’s a thing. Lost 10lbs in first two and a half weeks, then nothing, up a pound, down a pound. Fell “off the wagon” at the weekend (week5) and had a couple of glasses of wine and two chocolates (could only manage 2 they tasted so sweet!) weighed myself this morning and I’m down two pounds! I walked more as we had sunny but cold weather. Go figure as they say

Good luck Polly! It’s my first day today too. Really didn’t need my youngest getting up at 4.30am and not going back to sleep! Still, so far so good but it is only 10am!

Hope it goes well. Great that your husband is doing it too.

Hi everyone. I’m 6 weeks into the diet and I’ve lost 22lbs so far. I have to confess that I’m not diabetic or even pre diabetic but since turning Vegan 2 years ago I have relied too heavily on carbs and gained a lot of weight. Anyway i’m made up with my weight loss so far and I’m actually really enjoying this diet.

I want to lose more weight. 4 stone in total would be ideal. I plan to take a couple of days off the diet at the end of the 8 weeks (I won’t go mad, just not count calories for a couple of days) and then start another round of 8 weeks on 800 cals a day. This is not what is recommended in the book so I would love to know what you all think and has anyone else done a lot more than 8 weeks?

Thanks in advance xxx

Hi everyone. I’m 6 weeks into the diet and I’ve lost 22lbs so far. I have to confess that I’m not diabetic or even pre diabetic but since turning Vegan 2 years ago I have relied too heavily on carbs and gained a lot of weight. Anyway i’m made up with my weight loss so far and I’m actually really enjoying this diet.

I want to lose more weight. 4 stone in total would be ideal. I plan to take a couple of days off the diet at the end of the 8 weeks (I won’t go mad, just not count calories for a couple of days) and then start another round of 8 weeks on 800 cals a day. This is not what is recommended in the book so I would love to know what you all think and has anyone else done a lot more than 8 weeks?

Thanks in advance xxx

Best of luck Pollyjones
Don’t be nervous, the diet is a breeze after the first few days when you may experience some mild side effects which are easily combatted.
You have the extra support of having your husband as a diet buddy but if you need any help at all just shout.
The BSD forum is full of willing helpers.
Be sure to keep us informed of your results as you move through this exciting new lifestyle.

I guess not!

I found a website yesterday called Diet Doctor, he’s a Swedish feller. It talks about ketosis and about the low carb high fat diet. He’s from the same school of thought as Saint Dr Mosley and his discussion of exercise made me smile!

Hello, I am starting the diet today, I am lucky that my husband is doing it too. I have type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure. I am determined to do something about it. I have all sorts of anxieties about keeping to the plan but the fridge and cupboards are clear.
Please wish luck.

😀
You see my aim wasn’t too bad
Not too shabby for a 62 year old 🙂

Last 3 months reading had gone up from 62 ( last year) to 71. I had put on 3 kilos due to being less careful following a bad ankle injury which limited my mobility for 4 months. Cholesterol is good (3.00) On pills for Blood Pressure after stroke 8 years ago.
I started 2 weeks ago, and have dropped from 77 kilos to 74 kilos Fasting sugar measurement this morning 64.
Am now resting doing a 5:2! Am looking quite thin! (5ft 8ins 11.6 stone in English!)
I have in mind 70 kilos but am not getting encouragement from a family of medics!
I have felt weak and a bit distant especially on my mountain bike adventures…typically 25 kilometres 200 ft of climbing, so usually stick to 10,000 step walks.
Tend to stick to same breakfast Bircher, and Cheesy Beans lunchtime. Mix it up for Dinner!
I think that I will get back on it ‘properly’ when the weather improves.
I am encouraged but need the sun on my back for the next bit! Not felt hungry on this but could do with a Glass of wine!

I’ve been on the BSD for 9 days now and have lost 3 kg. Very pleased by that loss. Enjoying the diet and have had some very tasty meals. Not even missing bread (my greatest weakness). However, we invited friends round for a meal at the weekend and I am struggling with what on earth to cook that will be nice for them and OK for me.

Morning Bill,
Yes, I finally have ketosis! Just0.5 which, according to my chart is a trace so I hope to see that improve with time and some tweaks to my diet. Your reading is medium on my chart which is about right for the number of carbs you are eating. The higher numbers come from a diet of 20grams of carbs or less.

Wow Orchid those are fantastic results for just over 4 weeks. You must be so proud.
There are a few veggies on here who have been posting recipes so maybe a bit more variety for you now.
Really looking forward to seeing your 8 week results Well done you !

Not easy to explain cherrianne but I’ll try
in order to get high rankings on google (page 1) a website has to have good content but it also needs recommendations from other sites. These come in the form of backlinks, either a URL or a product title published on another site will do it.
You now have a situation where thousands of so call SEO people (Search Engin Optimisation) are trawling the net trying to get backlinks for the sites that are paying them (and it is VERY well paid)
The best links come from sites that have the same general interest factor as the site you are getting the links for, hence we get them from the diet pill quacks and now pushers of alternative diets. Unfortunately, forums, especially unmoderated forums are seen as fair game.
that is a very brief nutshell version but you will get the idea

It’s so sad, Bill, that these type of trolls and leeches ( you’re right there. Cherrieanne ) can infiltrate our positive forums. As my mum would have said ‘fore warned is fore armed’ so glad you are knowledgeable about these things Bill

chubbypenguin, this is a fab post you started, but where have you gone since?

Breakfast (today) – small gammon steaklet with grilled tomato and baked beans (reduced sugar and salt)

Lunch – don’t have.

Dinner, smoked haddock with something or other.

Fluffyslippers be VERY careful, especially if you are diabetic. I once followed that diet and it did me no favours, and I put on more weight. If you hanker after bread try the two flat bread recipes in the recipes tab on this forum. This isn’t just an 8 week diet -it needs to be a way of life! 🙂

Cherrieanne until I read your post i assumed back link meant bill was referring to the fact the guy had mentioned his own interest (book). So i googled it too. I’m shocked. I’m obviously too naive. Thank god we have Bill on our side!

Breakfast: coffee with milk
low carb protein powder mixed with water, 1 dried apricot, 1Tbs wholegrain rolled oats (raw), 3 cashews
snacks: latte, 2 fruit teas, 1 black coffee, 1 black decaf, small piece Edam cheese with fresh apricot
Lunch: chicken and feta with green salad, lots of grated carrot, cider vinegar, 10 cashews
Dinner: lentil curry with eggplant, carrots and broccoli, full fat cottage cheese
Night time snack: small glass of milk with 3 cashews

No hunger pangs at all – it feels so weird! I’ve felt hungry all my life, until now. 778 calories.

Thanks Judith and Bill 🙂 I’m not planning to leave either. I’ve never been one for forums before but I’m really enjoying the common goals we have on here. Everyone is quite open about their struggles and so supportive of each other. Considering how many people have joined there have been very few negative/ destructive elements.
How do you pick up the back links Bill? That’s the second post you’ve picked up on one. I didn’t have a clue what it was so I had to look it up. It makes sense that people try to link such a popular site with theirs, they’re just a kind of parasite really ( like intestinal worms or leeches lol)!!
I’m so not tech savvy!! I’ve never seen anything about diet pills either. Good on you for being so astute Bill.
There don’t seem to be any moderators on here. My husband belongs to some forums where they have them and they can remove posts which are inappropriate.

I was excited to see that recent studies show cooking, cooling and re-heating pasta, bread, rice and potatoes binds the starch and makes it less digestible, lowering the GI rating of flour products. I am keeping off these products in my initial 8 weeks, as they are still quite dense and carb rich, but I hope to put them back into my diet in small quantities once I’m off the strict stage.

Hi,
like you I am vegetarian and was disappointed in the lack of vegetarian recipes in the book. I did find more on the Newcastle website http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/documents/StudyRecipes.pdf, and have used the soups a lot. I decided that I would start using meal replacement shakes and for week 1 replaced two meals with them and the third meal was a stir-fry or soup or/and eggs. The second week I went down to one replacement meal and the third week I stopped them completely. I also followed the Newcastle approach for the first 2 weeks and was looking only at the 800 cals and not so much the amount of carbs I was eating. This all gave me time to adjust to 800 cals per day and get organised for what I could eat (no parsnip/beetroots/squash at the height of their seasons was a blow) and make a lot of soup.
I have got a bit sick of eggs…. so have greek yoghurt and blueberries plus 3gms each linseeds, pumpkinseeds and sunflower seeds for breakfast some days. Lunch is usually soup plus a salad – cucumber, tomato, spring onion and feta cheese is a good standby for this.
I have just reached my main goal to get my BMI down under 30 in 4.5 weeks losing 8.5kg, losing 2kg most weeks.
Other recipe books to look for Rose Elliots vegetarian low GI, and ignore the rice/pasta etc works for me.
Good luck.

Are there any pony mad triathletes out there?!! I am trying to start the 8 week bsd because I have been training for a triathlon, I weigh 11 stones and am only 5’3″ tall, I can swim ok and cycle well but I feel like I weigh a ton when I try and run. So I need to shed a couple of stones before May! What I want to know , is anyone else out there training? And is it still OK to use 800 calories? Yesterday I ate 1700 and did two hours of training, I felt shaky and week, should I up my limit a bit? I don’t want to drown or fall off my bike or my pony!!! Or should I stick hard to it and reduce my training? I am a trained nutrition teacher although as I trained in the eighties, most of what I learned is now wrong!! So I know a bit about eating….
However I think I am an emotional eater and use food for kicks ( I need to get out more!) I am also 51 but see this as just a number…
Ps. I am also extremely hungry/famished/starving…!!

Thanks for the replies – really helpful. I must admit allowing myself a full fat greek yogurt (rather than a 0% fat) for the first time in years was amazing. Even tastier than chocolate 🙂 Thanks again.

Welcome to the forums hytane! Good to read about your fantastic results so far:)

Thanks stringbreaker and good luck.

He he,
part of what I do is running 2 internet sites, I have a bathroom and heating business along with my son in law.
Believe me, I know all about trolls and link droppers.
the worst is still to come, as the forum gets more popular, we’ll see more and more of this going on.

Thanks Malkay, i would not have got it right without that explanation 🙂

Don’t despair, fluffyslippers, I’ve had times where my weight stalled for a few days and suddenly 2 or 3 lbs would come off overnight. Keep going gal, you Will get the weight loss 🙂

Oooo a gadget !!! I love gadgets, tell me more please.

Loads of people have had a plateau Fluffyslippers.
It’s not the diet, more a body readjustment. Stick with it, on 800 cals you have got to lose weight, it will start up again.

Hi marjorie, so glad you are not going to give up. Be kind to yourself, it was just a little blip and it is behind you now. You’ll lose that extra 2 lbs as quickly as it went on – and then some more. Go gal, go, we’re rooting for you 🙂

Hi,
I’m a newbie, I’ve just completed week one and weighed myself this morning, i’ve lost 2kg (4.4 lbs).
It was a tough first few days of the diet but comfortable thereafter. I think for the week ahead I need to more meticulous with the cooking weighing scales and to incorporate some exercise as besides walking I didn’t do much last week.

A small step in the correct direction, hopefully it can continue.
It’s really motivational reading all the posts and seeing people’s progress even though we’re all physiologically different it’s still encouraging to see them and compare , whatever works I guess 🙂

Hi trishadawn, are you remembering to drink lots of water and eat full fat dairy? It’s hard to get your head around full fat after years of being told to eat sugary low fat yoghurt by WW and others. This will work for you! You will be so thrilled when you get into just overweight category! 🙂

Hi Bill, just seen your congratulations, thankyou. I agree cherrieanne is going nowhere – nor you Bill, we need you on here more than ever!

Thanks Bill, I had never heard of an SEO, as you know I am not very tech savvy. I hadnt even noticed the diet pill merchants! Knowing you understand what is going on is a comfort as we know you will be protective of us and these forums, thanks

This is great news guys and massive motivation for those experiencing a temporary plateau
Thanks for sharing.

Hi I’m going to call you Lessofme, sounds better.
Stick with it, plateaus are a feature of every diet (Think WW etc)
This, to me shows that the plateau is not the fault of the diet but more an adjustment of the body to the new way of eating.
On 800 cals a day you HAVE to lose weight so hang in there, the weight loss will start again.