🙂 No wonder you’re emotional Peanutbutty – how lovely to be able to help your friend like that.

I am managing my secret eating better this week – I am planning a “meal off” tonight, after I weigh in. Now… I know that’s a red flag normally – there’s a destructive pattern where people starve before weighing, then have a binge after weigh-in. That was me all last year, along with many others from Slimming world – we used to see each other in the supermarket after group, and do “dirty food confessions”! The thing is, I couldn’t then stop bingeing, and it would go on for several days, stalling any weight loss.

It is strange but I feel very much more in control now. I do still have my secret eating moments, but they are more planned and controlled than ever before, and they are getting less frequent. I hope by the end of my 8 weeks, I will be able to say I don’t feel the need to do it any more.

I think the diet has shown me that I can eat less and it doesn’t hurt. I can stop eating, and it doesn’t hurt. I can sleep on a nearly-empty stomach, and it doesn’t hurt… it might grumble a bit, but it’s completely bearable.

Far from hurting, it actually feels SO GOOD!! I am sure that I will be able to retrain my psychology to dislike the feeling I get after a binge, and prefer the feelings of slight hunger.

Mindful eating – I must work more on that. I still sometimes find myself scoffing away without thinking about it, but the much smaller portions I am having now do encourage me to make it last and enjoy every mouthful!

Posted by Maddy, Hi, I had a shock in the middle of last week , my weight loss till then was one stone at the end of week two. I weighed myself mid week, shock, put on 3 lbs. I thought back and no I hadn’t even cheated, I was very upset, so it was very reluctantly I weighed myself at the end of the third week to find I had lost two pounds. So don’t be downhearted it works out over time.

I am searching high and low for a very low carb bread to incorporate into a ’50g carbs a day’ eating lifestyle (not diet!). I see that Australia has Hermanbrot bread in their stores, which has 2.3g carbs per slice but it’s not sold here (UK). Has anyone tried the Atkins low carb bread mix? It’s available online, but expensive to buy with postage added on. I have a bread maker so am very happy to make my own if there is a recipe that is actually nice! (I have tried one before that ended up like a brick, and was totally inedible 😳)

Peanutbutty
Glad to have you back. You are clearly a very wonderful and loyal friend! I think your new attitude towards food is a very healthy one. The thing about secret eating is the calories still count and most of us would admit that it is actually a form of self-punishment not reward because there are so few benefits to come from it. I’ve certainly been there. But the rewards of just a few pounds lost are massive. I think you are going to have lots more emotional moments as you are now an Aunty but they will be great times and we will help you through anything else you need.

That’s exactly what I was worried about.

I’ve already decided, If I don’t get the support, I’ll go it alone, as I’m desperate to come off my 12 month battle with insulin.

Just got another two signatures in the petition 154 and 155.

Doing my best
Love Lucia
Xxxx

What a numptie!

lindab
you could just highlight the text in a recipe, copy it, and then paste into a notepad doc to save on your PC.

Christine, it is the chemist within morrisons that dells the ketostix. We’ll forgive you your eclair especially as it didn’t hinder things. I hope it was delicious!

Jump right in and do it!!!
If you can stick to the plan you should get the results you want to see (Mum too)
Read all the success stories on the forums, understand the hitches and pitfalls, use the recipe section, and don’t be afraid to ask questions, we all had to have day 1 ourselves.
Post your progress so we can celebrate with you or even offer the odd commiseration but never forget, you are not alone, there are many people on the path heading for the same destination and we all want to see you there with us.

Good luck ! I am also starting this diet today, having read it and thought it’s exactly the right approach for me and makes tons of sense.

My Mum died aged 67, loads of health problems but – in my opinion – the majority of them stemming from her problems with T2 diabetes over the years. It made everything either worse or just harder for her.

I’m overweight and having just turned 50 (around the age my Mum was diagnosed T2), realised I really REALLY need to do something if I’m to have a reasonable standard of health in the coming years.

I’ve had a look at some of the recipes on here – wish there was a way to save or bookmark them – and will definitely be trying them. Had a one-egg cheese omelette for lunch and got a chilli in the slow cooker for tea. Might try the flat breads recipe so I don’t miss the rice and/or chips that would normally accompany it in our house !

So they just tell me if my body is in blubber bashing mode?

It seems that if you keep your carbs down, that’s when bash mode kicks in

I don’t fancy using the sticks as I have enough to sort out in the bathroom and march at the same time so accidents are bound to happen.
Don’t want to leave puddles in the bathroom. ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️😳😳😳😳😳😳

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi All,
Just joined site today. I’m in week 5 of the diet. If you’re looking for a cheaper alternative to products sold at Coles or Woolies try your local asian food shop. You can find Konjac noodles sold under lots of different names for a fraction of the price. I think last time I bought a packet it was only $1.50 and I’m pretty sure it last for more than 3 days.

Hi Orchid
not an authorative reply, cherrianne will do better, but, that sounded a lot like a hypo to me.
If you have cleared out your liver to the point where there is little sugar in storage, that may have caused it.
It may be an idea to have breakfast pre exercise now if you aren’t testing your blood.

Hi all,

I have been away for a while as I had the honour of being birth partner to my bereaved friend – a very emotional time and eating schedules have somewhat gone out of the window with first the labour and now the support/ solidarity shifts. Both mum and beautiful baby boy now doing well and back at home – if only we could attach photos to threads?!

I have been doing this plan on and off during that period – some days sticking to the plan, other times going round to cook lasagne for friend or sharing a coffee and apricot pastry with her. The main thing I have been trying to crack is the “secret eating” that jpscloud refers to. I have been telling myself that I can eat whatever want as long as I eat in front of other people; if I am eating my myself then I have to stick to the plan.

That has seemed to work to some extent on the sugar cravings (not even an Easter egg for me!) although obviously I have still been having some carbs. Now that things are a bit more settled with friend and baby I want to go back to the plan full time so that hopefully, by the end of the 8 weeks I will be able to answer more “nos” than “yesses” to the carb addiction questions (currently all yesses).

I have been keeping in touch reading the forums and must confess I actually shed a tear or two reading some of the threads here – whether it’s the support people are offering each other, or the progress they are reporting – Bill going to pre-diabetic?! AMAZING! (Having said that, I did cry the other day at the mere sight of a man walking a dog, so may still be a bit emotional in general!)

Hope everyone is well and wishing you all a peaceful week of mindful and determined eating x

Today I began the BSD. I hadn’t intended to buy another diet book but I read the first few pages and was drawn in. I think this one makes a lot of sense. My mother is T2 and I am about 15 kgs over weight. This time I have a good feeling that this diet is the one for me. I am also motivated to change right now as my mum has just come out of hospital and I don’t want my health problems to escalate as hers have done. She is nearly 70 and almost 50kgs overweight. I am seriously worried about her and would like to have her around for many more years to come. She has given up on trying to change. Perhaps if I can have success, she may also be tempted to try it.

Any ideas or help you can offer along the way will be greatly appreciated.

FiFiP
21 pounds down is nothing to sniff at either, give yourself, and hubbie, a big pat on the back.

hashimoto – thanks for the suggestion to keep it separate. I do have a database I track everything in (actually two, since I’m too lazy to carry the food data into the BG data). The stats from the BG database maxes out my doctor’s tolerance for data 🙂

I definitely did a lot of research. My family attracts medical unicorns, so I’ve gotten in the habit of doing enough research so that I stay a step or two ahead of the doctors (in the narrow area of the medical issue) . (Medical unicorns: The advice to new medical professionals – when you hear hoofbeats, look for a horse – rather than a zebra. Our family repeatedly stymies doctors, since usually what shows up is actually a zebras (uncommon diseases), and occasionally a unicorn (e.g. one on the rare diseases database – that has no treatment and no cure – for that one I had to tell the doctor what tests to run, at the time he believed there was still nothing serious wrong). Diabetes is the (uncommon for us) horse – as is my Hashimoto’s disease and Vitamin D1 deficiency, but research habits die hard.

Bill – I looked through some of your thread. Definitely attracted a lot of posts!

Thank you for all your comments. Is there a way of replying to individual posts? I am so looking forward to getting these first two weeks over.

Well, it’s been so informative so far on this forum and I believe I’m getting it right at present. Just counting calories seems to be easiest. I’ve found this the best program and with quick results. 5 kgs in 17 days ! Very motivating. Is anyone adding exercise and if you have, are you adding calories to the daily 800 to make up for the shortfall and maintaining weight loss? Thanks again

After seeing the mixed responses from professionals I have to say it will be a bit of a lottery.
Some are giving out dire warnings, others are totally supportive, it depends on the individual until we get some proper guidelines in place.

Perhaps someone should have told her that the diet can negate the need for metformin & gliclazide?
I despair at the medical profession at times.

Discussed the diet with my GP last week, I told him that I would prefer to do the 8 weeks with the diet shakes, he’s happy to provide me with Optifast during the eight weeks, but will not prescribe it until I’ve seen a dietitian.

I just hope it’s not too long before I can see one!

I was just wondering if a dietitian will have any opposition to doing the 800 cal. diet.

A week late and posted elsewhere, but this was my diary thread so just a quick resume.
Started week 1 at 16 stone 9 pounds (typo on my original post said 16:5 but my diary noted at the scales is 16:9
Week 9 weigh in shows me at 14 stone 9 pounds ! a whole 2 stone gone.
FSB on day 1, 9.8 this morning 6.4
Pre meal readings into the 4’s This is after stopping the Exanatide injections and cutting the Metformin dose in half
Reclassified as pre diabetic based on blood tests taken just 4 weeks in.
Retinal blood vessels looking good with no sign of inflammation (Major unexpected bonus)
Cholesterol normal, sleeping much better and feeling better than I have for years.
Future intentions are to stay with the fast 800 until I hit my first weight target of 13.5 stones then the 5:2 to take me to 12 stones (Ishould be 11 stones to get out of the over weight category but to be honest that was the weight I was at when I was 18 and training 3 times a week and playing rugby on a Saturday so maybe a bit OTT for me at 62)
I have every intention of being totally med free by the time my next blood tests come around in September.

When I titled this thread, I was in that frame of mind, It HAD to work for me as nothing else was and I was on a very slippery slope so this really was the last chance saloon! I was sort of confident but not entirely until those week 1 results hit and then I knew I could do this.
With all the wonderful help and support I have had from all the brilliant folk on these forums (more than most due to personal issues) and the absolute good, common sense that floods out of Michaels book, I have managed to get where I am today knowing that my future is now in my own hands.
So “THIS HAS TO WORK FOR ME”
Did it ????
With a bullet it did 😀
I will spend the rest of my days grateful to Michael and Professor Taylor and I will recommend my new lifestyle to anyone who is prepared to listen.
I sincerely hope that everyone who embarks on this journey has as much or more success as I have had, and one last thing folks

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS.

Hi,
I have completed the 8 weeks 800 and lost 13.5kg, now no longer obese. I have just over 10kg to go so have stayed on the 800 for a couple more weeks.
I decided to up my exercise today as I am not longer worried about damaging my knees! I was able to do a 10 minute bike warm-up, run/walk (fartlek) on a treadmill 15 minutes prior to a session with weights October/November last year when I was a lot heavier. I have only been walking for 60 minutes (usually evenings) recently a couple of times a week, plus I do an hours pilates every week.
I have started jogging a number of times in my life so I know what I need to do to build up and have completed a 5k fun run plus 2 10k’s for charity a few years ago.
I got up and went straight out 7.30 this morning (no food or drink since 9pm yesterday), walked to a nearby park (6 football fields that are not used at that time of day – grass and paths that you can go round) then did jog/walk 100 paces each around the park and walked home as a cool down. Stretched start and finish. Comfortable, no breathlessness, legs fine. Haven’t yet managed to get Garmin loaded, so can’t see my heart-rate, but it beeps at me when I get into the dangerous range and it did not do that. It was about 2.4km in 25 mins 40% jog, 60% walk, so a very easy ‘run’.
I went up-stairs and started to feel queasy. As I got ready for the shower, I was a little light headed, as I was during the shower. When I came out I had to lie down for a few minutes as I was still dizzy (I never have dizzy turns normally). I got myself dressed, and back downstairs still not feeling great and had breakfast – full fat yogurt, blueberries and seeds plus a cup of cocoa, half milk.
Started to feel better, and now fine. Could not get a BP reading on my HR monitor – error only. Did get one an hour ago 109/70. It is a wrist one so liable to be low. Pulse when I was having breakfast was about 80 – fine given I had just exercised. Now 65.
I used to go out first thing with no breakfast or just and small glass of orange, and never had an issue, so I assume it is some thing to do with available sugars in my blood and if my body is needing energy it is fat converting which is slower or worse – using protein? Anyone any ideas? I assume I also need to eat something before I go out in future – will nuts work or are they also too slow release?
Sorry for the ramble…. any background that you can point me at will help! I did a search on MM’s book, but nothing came up.

Hi Winston, that is a terrible disappointment for you! I can understand you being so upset. Please persevere though, even for just a couple more weeks. I see from your first post that the spike started in week 5, and you are one day into your final week. My high blood sugars lasted for a little over 3 weeks, I think Bill was also around the three week mark too. It is a scary time wondering if you are going to ever get through it. Like you, I dreaded the threat of meds to control my blood sugar. They really only treat the symptoms not the disease. Then slowly my fasting sugars came down until they are now consistently under 5.
So please don’t give in yet after all the effort you’ve put in. It’s worth pushing on, even if you have to do an extra week or two. Check your carb intake is low enough, 50g carbs a day is what achieved results for me. It would be awful if you dropped out without realising your goal, so keep posting and let us know how you’re doing.

Just been on a diabetes course and raised this diet and the dietician mentioned keto acidosis and also seemed to have made the same mix up. Basically she said the diet wasn’t a good idea for people on metformin or glucazid. What a disaster the course was. Although I did mention the diet loads.

Hi Lucia
Thanks, will have to have a look for them, maybe even take them on holiday with me! or is that being a bit too ‘anal’?

Hi Lucienne – I have hereditary eye problems, as Bill says please either go to your Doc or Optician for a check-up, it’s always best to nail anything like this fast to put your mind at rest.

Hi hashimoto
Snap, I wonder what else we have in common? Will have a look in morrisons for the ketostix things, any idea where they would be and what to look for ice colour of box etc?

Soup is our mainstay, you name it, I have made to for lunch, every single variant of permitted vegetable has been cooked & blended into an edible bowl of warmth, been a life-saver on cold days. Usually chuck a handful of pulses, barley or a can of cannellini beans in for good measure with lots of herbs.

I don’t weigh the veg, it’s whatever fits in the pan, goes. Not hugely scientific but I have lost 21lbs so far and my husband is touching the stone mark.

Well done Skywalker, 2 stone is to be congratulated!

Hi janet1973
confession time, yesterday evening when all the family left, we( husband) sat down with a coffee with cream and a chocolate eclair! I was still under 50g carbs when I had reckoned them up so guess what this morning I had still lost a pund, well pleased!

Hi SunnyB & Cherrianne. Thanks for the advice. Great ideas, will give them a try this week. 😀

My son is a pharmacist too, I just never thought to ask him, just ordered them from amazon. He looked a little disappointed when I showed him them as I could have got them through him! 🙁

Lucienne
I find the floaty dots in your visioin concerning.
Has your doc sent you for a diabetes eye check yet ?
I ask because those floaters, whilst normally nothing to worry about, can also be an indication of early retinopathy. Best to ask I think.

Hi Cherrianne,
Thanks for thinking of me… I have been great… had to look at the calendar today to see if it is week three or four… Yes the low carb choices here are amazing!!!! hahaha…. but we spent easter in Luxembourg and I actually learned to choose well from the menu’s…. Italian is easiest – of course not the pasta or pizza but their fish and salad choices are better.
Thanks for reminding me about tinned fish though will invest in some tonight… too far from the coast here to eat the real thing…. having grown up in King George Whiting country frozen fish does not cut it…
Anyway… yeah cannot weigh myself but clothes are getting baggy…
Fasting BSL is still hanging under 8 so, I am pretty happy – but waiting for the expected spike before I relax completely… would like to see it under 6 of course but realistically I have been diagnosed 16 years so feel I am doing amazingly well given that. Had to halve my BP profilactic med as was having dizzy spells but metformin remains unchanged for a while yet I reckon even though it is XR so will take longer to deplete my glucagon stores but don’t want to harm myself while trying to do good. Diamicron I have not taken since the day after I started this change… I have the app you recommend but had stopped using it in Germany.. will take a gander….
Thanks again chic..

Hi hashimoto
Thanks for the info, I should have asked daughter Emily , she is a pharmacist! However, (don’t tell her though!) She tends to talk down to me when I ask her leading questions! Like that. Will check Amazon.

Wow, spenloven that will spur you on through the complexities of your new diet!! 🙂

Thanks Magpie, hope it all works out 🙂

Hi spendloven have you thought of FF yoghurt with berries and nuts/seeds or ground flax? An easy no cook breakfast!! 🙂

MerryMary, Switzerland and Desperate, such a good start to your BSD journey! You will be feeling so inspired 🙂 keep posting, it makes everyone feel good.
Judith thanks for your kind words.
Lea, just jump straight into the BSD way of life, as Bill often advises ‘don’t over think it’. Just follow the plan, shout out for help and advice, someone will be there to help. Keep reading and posting. You will motivate yourself and others. If we can do it, diverse bunch that we are, anyone can! Just watch those kilos disappear 🙂

Hi notsofatty,
Haven’t heard from you for a while, I was wondering how you were doing. Germany isn’t renowned for it’s low carb cuisine so I was concerned you might be struggling.
As far as your protein goes, are you eating dairy at all? That will go some way to increase your protein count. If you have a smoothie for breakfast you could add a legume based protein powder to it. The whey based ones are higher in carbs.
Half a cup of cooked lentils are 7.1g protein for 81 cals. 1/4 cup of Tofu stir fried is 11.3g for 119 cals.
Half a cup of tinned cannelini beans will give 5.8g protein for 69 cals. Great added to a salad or mashed to a paste with some sage and lime juice to use as a filler in celery.
I can’t remember if you are vegetarian but if not:
Tinned fish 50g of sardines in oil = 8.5g protein for 81cals, 50g tuna in spring water = 11.9g protein for 50 cals. Two large boiled eggs = 13g protein for 140 cals.
If you have an iPhone or iPad, you could download the Australian easy diet diary. Scroll through the list of foods and check out the protein levels and choose some low cal options.
Hope this has helped.

Bill I think you are truly inspirational. 👍🏼

Hi Winston, I hear you but 10% of body weight is significant, a good 10k time I could only dream of, a personal best, slightly lower BP? I don’t suppose that you carb load before a run or anything but maybe its time for a medical second opinion. In his book there were some tricky cases and one who was in fact type 1 if I recall. I am lucky in that I am not type 1 or 2 and have other challenges. I will be interested to see how you get on but as for not recommending a way to lose 10% body ms and set a best 10k run time – surely you must be feeling very depressed after your linked success. I hope others can be more help with their personal Type 2 experiences. All the best..

Hello everyone – Husband & I are mainlining vegetables, we boost the dinners in particular with the veggies & anything left over goes into soup. We are eating lots of soup for lunch, it’s filling, tasty, transportable and uses up stuff in my groaning fridge.

We add a few legumes pulses to the soups and then use the remainder in the meal plans for the evening meals.

I totally agree with the other posters, relinquishing simple carbs has made me think outside the box for meals and I am going full pelt at adapting any family-favourite recipes. Lunch today will be homemade minestrone, minus the pasta. Tomorrow I am going to use that Gwyneth Paltrow Black Bean soup recipe from the Mail on Sunday magazine, adapted to exclude the tortilla strip garnish, yoghurt instead of sour cream as I only have yoghurt in the fridge . What I haven’t got in my cupboard, I stuff in something else instead, I am what my husband calls a ‘confident cook’ but do empathise with people who are less at ease in the kitchen, my motto is just to try, take adaptations slowly, use your favourite ingredients to flavour meals, introducing new ones slowly if they are off your radar.

Anything goes within the food guidelines, try it & see!

Wow well done Leanne what a fantastic first week result! I second what the others say, I reserve some calories for an evening snack – I made some caraway seed pancakes with coconut flour and one of those is really filling with a hot drink, other snacks might be a few redskin peanuts with a little piece of very strong cheese like parmesan or gruyere.

Congrats again on a very successful first week.

thank you Right on top x

Sunnyb, thats great, by the time you are there you will have loads to catch up on! Send us lots of stories of Turkey while you are out there. It will be the closest I get to a foreign holiday this year so it will be nice to enjoy yours vicariously! Until then, one last push!

Good on you Spirit, sometimes other people can shine a light on us that makes us see things differently. Sounds like you’ve had a ‘lightbulb moment’ and that will strengthen your resolve and add to your ‘why’. Well done.

Well done on the weight loss!!