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  • posted by  hashimoto on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    Hi rob,
    Re breakfast:
    *omlette
    *fried egg and beans
    *fritatta
    *1 sausage with grilled tomato and mushroom
    * fage yoghurt with a sprinkling of ground flax seeds and some raspberries
    * you could even have soup
    * aldi do little packets of nuts and seeds. That and small bowl blue berries
    *2 rashers of bacon and 1 fried egg
    * baked beans and small bowl of berries

    There are all sorts of combinations, you don’t have to stick to the recipes in the book, just keep to 800 calories or the principles of the diet – i.e. Low carb

    Hope that helps πŸ™‚

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    Hi Rob, one of the best things you can do for yourself at this stage is get to know food a bit better. You don’t need to be a walking encyclopaedia but you do need to develop an understanding of what is good to put in your mouth. Generally the stuff you cook yourself is going to be better for you. So any meat including the skin, eggs as often as you like, as much fish as you can face. Plenty of full fat yoghurt, butter oils, nuts in moderation. Vegetables grown above the ground are better than those grown underground but onions, leeks and carrots aren’t really the enemies in the grand scheme.

    Avoid all bread, pasta, rice, potatoes of any kind.

    Find an on-line calculator that you like and consult it frequently about foods you don’t know the composition of. I use calorie king because it tells me about carb content. The nhs do a calorie counter which is quite good too, just google them. Porridge is ok but when carbs are important, its quite high.

    It might all seem a bit geeky but you really do need to know the basics for yourself, it will make more sense of your weight loss (or any plateaus you experience) as you go on. Do this for yourself. Count your calories up to 800 or your carbs up to 50 grams or both. You can do this, but you do need to put your mind to it. (Write down everything you find out, then you only have to look for the info once!)

  • posted by  aquatex on Recipe measurements
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    Ooof! I feel like a party crasher. Sorry for the confusion about not having mentioned that my measurement questions originated from the other side of the pond. Your responses are, however, most cordial and helpful, and I thank you for them. Christi, an additional thanks for the mention of the petition and the thread where I can find it. We could certainly use that here as well.

    And, as for my Yankdom, as we say here at home: “I’m American by birth, but Texan by the grace of God.”

    Cheers!

  • posted by  westirelandgirl on Just started and a bit confused
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    I only started on Tuesday but the best way I have found is as mentioned in the book, (if you haven’t read it you should) but I wait for as long as possible to eat – so have my brunch at 11-1230 ish – then have my dinner at about 6-630 – there seems to be room for a little snack as well ..

    WIG

  • posted by  Rob on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    Thanks for the reply

    I don’t understand what you mean by what I can eat

    This is all new to me…I have never read a back of the packet before , I just used to eat the content..go for a run/gym and never give it a thought…

    Is porrage good ( the oats one with the Scottish guy on the cover ) as the breakfast menus ( except for the poached eggs/beans with cheese are horrid(((

    Week 2 tomorrow.. Help!!!!!!! Lol

  • posted by  Rob on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    Hi thanks for the reply

    I until I started the diet had 7 lattes a week ( sometimes more ) every latte came with a muffin !
    Then I would bake a cake twice a week
    Loved potatoes, pasta and cereals ( oh and the Indians/Chinese meals )

    It’s a hell of a journey we are going through, and I have promised my self that I will never over indulge again, but I am a guy who has to eat the packet of biscuits, all the Pringles, burger…etc and then have a banana and think I am ok cos I ate some fruit….only to find out bananas are a no no!!

    I do want to wear my jeans and shirt and feel good again so that is a motivation

    Dieting for chocolate…. Want to eat the biggest Easter egg!!

    However with all that said, I will be mortified if I done that, so with your comments it helps

    I am looking forward to the 5:2 diet once I get the weight I need…78-80kg

    )) happy Easter

  • posted by  Venusflytrap on Just started and a bit confused
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    I am just starting to think about starting and wondering how to do this too! Do people work on a 200kcal breakfast and lunch plus a 400kcal dinner or what. Would like to see some typical days from experienced 800-ers. Any recommended posts or blogs for this?

  • posted by  Christi1948 on Recipe measurements
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    You can get a set of ‘cup” measures from most kitchen shops, if you are in uk try Lakeland kitchen shop, have a look on line, www. Lakeland.co.uk cheers everyone

  • posted by  hashimoto on Recipe measurements
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    Clever thinking venusflytrap!

    Have you seen our petition to promote this diet for diabetics? It has it’s own thread which has information and a link to the petition. πŸ™‚

  • posted by  SOS on Cards or Net Cards?
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    This might be a daft question but i wanted to check that when counting carbs we count Net carbs and NOT Total carbs?.?

  • posted by  Christi1948 on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    Hi rob,
    I felt awful at first, the first day I went to bed thinking I can’t do this, got up the next day, again, thinking I’ve bought all this stuff I can’t give up now, so carried on, felt weak and light headed, ( I chose a time when things were a bit quieter at home) got through that day then the next and so on until I was at the end of the first week and I had lost weight, so I was prepared to carry on, it’s not been easy, I have a really bad sugar addiction, ( unfortunately still have) I have been freezing and starving, I don’t know how I carried on to be honest, I just knew something had to give!
    Sorry to sound so negative, what I am saying is it’s not all rosy however stick with it, if i can anyone can! The great thing is that every time you get on the scales you will have lost weight, you may experience a plateau, keep with it though, I will start moving again, I had two weeks where I lost two ounces!
    Another tip, sorry, constipation, try having 1tbs flaxseeds (linseeds) with a pint of water one morning, things will star moving soon after.
    Finally keep those posts coming and don’t forget to tick the box for notifying you of follow up replies, good luck

  • posted by  Venusflytrap on Recipe measurements
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    In the olden days when I was looking at translating American recipes to UK measurements, I found that cottage cheese tubs were very useful. I used the 8oz size as a cup and the 4oz size as a half cup. Now we’re in “new money”, I suppose that would be a 250g carton as a cup and the 125g tub as a half. My reasoning goes something like this. The US pint is 16 fl oz or half a litre or 500ml. The US measurements are all by volume rather than by weight. So it might be worth checking that the 250g carton is 250ml in size, just to be accurate. Our pints are 20 fl oz so don’t swop in so easily.

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    Hi Rob,

    Clearly all your forces training has given you great mind over matter techniques. But you need to eat!

    Yes, it can be a bit of a shock at first to come down to 800 calories but you will find that the lack of carbs reduces your appetite and you won’t feel so hungry. But you need to spend your calories in meat and fats to help achieve that satisfied feeling.

    However, there is another way. Many of us on the forums don’t count calories, only carbs. So for instance, we aim for a maximum of 50grams of carbs a day. There are no carbs in eggs, meat, fish or butter and oil. So we eat these freely until we are full, no calorie counting. We still lose weight because of the reduced carbs.

    So if you are really struggling with the hunger, try just counting the carbs. But you must only eat when you are hungry and stop eating when you are full. Eat mainly carb free food and veg, stil no pasta, potatoes, bread, etc.

    Here’s wishing you a more comfortable week this week!

  • posted by  hashimoto on My eight weeks….
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    Great minds lucia I walk up and down stairs a lot in bad weather. Ive been known to drive to a supermarket to get lots of walking done indoors. Then just buy 1 item!
    Boog 23 posted in the american thread.

    I love sledging – i think i’ll be still doing it at 90 lol. So yes I’ll come with you. No icy snowballs down the neck though! X

  • posted by  jpscloud on I survived the Easter party
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    Blinking well done Sharon! I am doing a bit of treadmill today in an effort to make up for cherrysconegate earlier in the week – I’d probably have to do about fifty miles to make up for it, though!

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    Hi Hashimoto
    It has been sunny, then as black as night and very heavy rain with wind lashing it against the Windows. No hail yet, but me and Bill 1954 are having a snow ball fight later, do you want to bring your toboggan over?

    Mother Nature doesn’t know what to do today.
    It may calm down tomorrow.

    I am going to walk up and down my stairs a few times, just to get the blubber moving again.

    Love Lucia
    Xxxx

  • posted by  hashimoto on 8 weeks and counting
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    Hi jandz, chilli cheese, now you’re talking my language. Love it. I didn’t mention the fact that I add chilli to my frittata as I thought it might sound odd! πŸ™‚

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Why 800?
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    Ha ha! In that case, let the 6’5 male worry for himself! I checked with the book and the reason 800 was chosen was to give people with diabetes and prediabetes a big push with rapid weight loss. I don’t have either but I am only 5’2 and in the overweight category on the bmi chart. I have always found being vertically challenged makes any weight gain more apparent. But my BMI is gradually coming down and I am nearly back within the healthy range.

    Best wishes on your journey, whatever your current make-up, you can improve it with this programme.

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    Hi boog 23

    Are you still there? My Wellington boots are full of water, walking to you. How are you getting on?
    You and I blogg d at the beginning of my journey.
    I hope you are still on the path and all is well.
    Love Lucia
    Xxxx

  • posted by  hashimoto on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    Hi Rob, welcome to the forums. It doesn’t matter which thread you use. You will always be welcome. This is the first time on forums for quite a few of us.
    Don’t beat yourself up, we are all on here because of health or weight problems. You are among friends and part of this BSD family.

    YES it does get easier. The book says the first two weeks are the hardest, so things will get better soon.

    Re food – you could eat meals you are familiar with but ditch the carbs!

    Looking forward to your future posts πŸ™‚

  • posted by  hashimoto on My eight weeks….
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    I noticed that recipe for fried rice too. What a good idea!

    I had friends round for dinner last night and made a few different curry dishes. My fridge and freezer are groaning with all the soups and stews I made during the last few days. Now I have LOTS of dahl as well. As soon as I have cleared some space I am making that fried rice.

    Did you get a phenomenal hail storm? My lawn was white for ages xxx

  • posted by  Jandz100 on 8 weeks and counting
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    Hi hashimoto

    I agree about the frittata, I made a large one for lunches last week and cut into 4 pieces, I don’t mind eating the same food for a few days, just not for weeks like the soup! It’s also a good way to use up bits and bobs from the fridge/freezer as I hate waste.

    My frittata had bacon, kale, peppers, red onion and a small amount of grated chilli cheese (I grate it and stick it in freezer as I can only eat small amounts as it’s got a decent kick to it)

    I struggle with cruditΓ©s as I’m not a salad or raw veg kind of person…I’d end up just eating the dip with a spoon haha

  • posted by  Rob on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    Hi please accept this long post
    My first time ever joining a forum
    95kg male ( always been 73-80kg) accident in work and now I am 95kg((
    Just completed the first week))) stuck to the diet as stated in the book ( no treats, no snacks just what was written )
    Day 1….keen enthusiastic and determined to do this
    Day 2 …keen but avacardo!! Yuk
    Day 3… Starving , all I can think about is food
    Day 4…up all night starving, don’t think I can do this…
    Day 5..woke up starving , feel drained and have no appetite ( took photos of my belly and disgusted , have the motivation again )
    Day 6…lovely meals ( steak)
    Day 7.. Lovely meals ( chicken )

    This diet is so so hard, reading the book helped as what I thought was good eating was so wrong

    I am here to be healthier and help others if I can, and hope I will have help also

    What’s week 2 going to be like???

  • posted by  Rob on Lightweight/heavyweight!
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    This is the first forum I have ever joined so hope I am in the right one!
    Just finished the first week on the BSD
    Day 1 ..keen enthusiastic, determined..etc
    Day 2… Never ate the food I had to eat today ( so hard to eat )
    Day 3 starving, didn’t sleep well , wanted food, started to think what the hell where’s the proper food ( but never gave in
    Day 4.. Starving, took photos of my belly and was horrified !! I always saw my self as 75kg I am 95kg ( weighed my self a month ago so assuming I was 95kg )
    Day 5 not starving but determined as I am still sad with the look at my belly
    Day 6 what a day, great menu!! Steak!!!!
    Day 7 what a day , but starving

    Stuck to the diet religiously don’t feel as if I have lost allot, buying scales next week

    Joined the forum so I can help others and hope others will help me

    What shocked me was…I was in the armed forces for 10 years , fire service and even a qualified gym instructor…dr Mosley book taught me allot of what I thought was right was wrong!!!

    Does it get easier on week 2???

  • posted by  Reideen on My eight weeks….
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    Hashminto and Lucia, thank you I am grateful for your advice and yes Lucia I have gone and walked for 40 min, hopefully by the end of eight weeks my dog and I will be the fittest on my block,. I am planning out my weekly menu so there will be no straying of it again. πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€

  • posted by  Sharon on I survived the Easter party
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    Well I am feeling very proud of myself today, I didn’t give in I smelt the chocolate, like i was advised to do, it smelt awful. How did that happen i WAS a chocoholic!!!! No cheesecake or cakes for me either. I can’t believe how quickly my taste buds have changed, this lifestyle change is amazing. I might have a hot cross bun later on. Week 6 todoy 20lb down.

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    You know I told you all I used to eat Chinese take away until it came out of my ears?

    Well, guess what……
    In the recipes section, there is a fried rice dish.
    Will read it tomorrow and go food shopping. Mmmmmmmmmmm drooling already.

    Love Lucia
    Xxxxx

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    Hi reindeen,
    Don’t worry, it is only for one hour you went….. Squiffy.
    The other 23 hours you were perfect.
    Regroup and set your menu for tomorrow.

    Come for a walk with us all in Hashimoto’s woods. Smell the wild garlic?
    See it’s all behind you.
    Post a blog tomorrow to me and tell me you have done well with the day. Maybe do an extra 500 steps.

    At least you didn’t have a screaming fit like I did earlier.

    Keep going
    Love Lucia
    Xxx

  • posted by  blissfulbabe on Please sign our petition
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    I’ve signed it and posted the link on my Facebook page via the link on final signing page. I don’t have a Twitter account but I would think social media would be a good start to getting more signatures.

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    Hi gang,

    Right, now where were we?
    Ah yes, now about us all being professional regarding our BS800 diet. Let us draw a line under the Easter egg incident.
    Now what were we saying, ah yes. Now tomorrow, I need to regroup. Yoghurt and fruit for breakfast.
    Tuna salad lunch,
    A big dollop of green leaf veg. ( dollop is a technical term) with maybe fish.

    There I am back in the pattern,
    To all those who ate chocolate, I know, just regroup. I put my head in the dining room cupboards and stayed there until IT had gone. You must go out and buy cupboards to prevent another situation.
    To all those who didn’t eat chocolate… Smarty pants!
    Love Lucia xxxxx

  • posted by  blissfulbabe on Is Cortisol my problem?
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    I use Lactofree semi skimmed milk – 200 mls for 80 calories and 6 gms of carbs. It onlly saves 4 gms of carbs but I am trying to keep to between 20-30 gms of carbs a day and every little helps!

  • posted by  aquatex on Recipe measurements
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    So we’re looking at 5 fluid ounces of yogurt (10 tablespoons)? And measurements for meats (obvious, those) and cheese, fruits, vegetables, etc. will be X ounces weight?

    This must sound a bit twitty to some; however, if I use your pre-printed recipe and err in volume vs. weight measurement, it can make a difference, sometimes substantial, in the calorie value of the food. And 800, with a rounding margin of 10, is the daily allowance, no? If it is sufficiently important that a book be written from the research, intended to make this critical tool more widely available, then twitty questions about measurement of ingredients in the recipes included in the books are not only fair, they are essential for compliance.

    Thanks.

  • posted by  hashimoto on My eight weeks….
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    Hi reindeen, happy easter to you too.

    You WILL get your mojo back. In fact after a heavy meal today you will be glad to get back on the BSD wagon πŸ™‚

  • posted by  hashimoto on 8 weeks and counting
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    Hi jandz, I find fritatta is a good packed lunch choice, you can fry onion,peppers and mushrooms then add the eggs. I sometimes put a little grated cheese on before popping it under the grill. Use 4 eggs. Cut it in two and you have 2 packed lunches. Another good lunch is hummus or peanut butter dip, take crudites of cucumber, pepper, celery and carrot. Plenty of mid week veg!

    Forget about yesterday, it’s the past. You can take from the experience that it doesn’t agree with you to eat a carb heavy meal πŸ™‚

  • posted by  misssay on What have you eaten today?
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    Breakfast: Easter Spiced Bun, warmed, creme fraiche on top

    Lunch: Platter of hummus, piece of chedder, guacamole, sour cream, pickled jalapenos, olives, gherkins, pickled onions, cherry tomatoes. The plan was to serve this with some toasted slices of a cauliflower loaf I made yesterday. Bleuuugh, I’m afraid – didn’t like it at all, and the OH, who loves all things cauli, didn’t like it either.

    Dinner: Roast lamb and gravy, brussels sprouts, carrots, mashed and baked swede, spicy red cabbage with red onion, apple and cranberries. (Not had this yet, but looking forward to it all in a while)

    Drinks: Water, one tea with milk, two coffees and cream

    No cals or carb counts for today, as I am having a couple of days (yesterday and today) on slghtly more relaxed eating, whilst still sticking to the basis ideas of the plan. I still have a week to go to the end of the 8 weeks, but will be doing another stint after that, so Easter weekend seemed like a good time to relax a little, and see what effect it had. I suppose that makes this week more of a 2:5 week!

  • posted by  hashimoto on Please sign our petition
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    Hi folks, there were 63 signatures for the petition last time I checked. Are there any uk residents who haven’t signed? We would love it if you joined us! πŸ™‚

  • posted by  Jandz100 on 8 weeks and counting
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    Good news is week 3 ended yesterday and another 2lb has gone…10lb in total πŸ‘

    Bad news is I’m not holding out much hope of a loss next weigh in as yesterday and today have been very very carb heavy.

    Yesterday was a meal out and lots of alcohol and today was Easter lunch including pudding….and I’m suffering for it! Stomach is uncomfortable, feeling lethargic and a mild headache is lurking in the background. Also, thinking back now, I didn’t enjoy much of the food or drink so maybe this plan is realigning my taste buds aswell?

    However, I’m not beating myself up for my actions, I’m learning from them, I’m actually looking forward to being back on plan tomorrow and at least now I know it’s the carbs that have made me feel blarghh for several years now !

  • posted by  Reideen on My eight weeks….
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    Happy Easter to all, hope you had a lovely day. I must confess I fell of the wagon today and had a big dinner and lots of chocolate πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜’but starting back now again and have started to read all the very inspirational reads again on this forum, hopefully I can get my motivation back and stay on the bed. thank you for all your support.

  • posted by  SkyWalker on A cup of ….. how many is a cup???
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    Sorry to take so long to get back, in Dunelm for Β£2.99 there are 5 cups, yolk separator and scraper printed with their sizes:

    Fluids: Dry Volune:
    1 Fl oz =2 tbsp =30 ml 1/2 tsp = 2.5 ml
    4 Fl oz =1/2 cup =120 ml 1 tsp = 5 ml
    8 Fl oz =1 cup =240 ml 1 tbsp = 15 ml
    12 Fl oz =1 1/2 cup =360 ml 1 cup = 240 ml
    16 Fl oz =2 cups = 480 ml 4 cup = 1 qt = 946 ml

    Starting my week 8 tomorrow, don’t beat yourself up, it’s not a race and reduced input = reduced fat stores (usually).

    Good luck everyone, I am beginning to loosen up on food items but still keeping sugar down to 30 mg or so each day.

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Why 800?
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    If you look at the recommended daily allowances for people, they only change between men and women, children and adults. Which one are you? The 4’11 female or the 6’5 male?

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Is Cortisol my problem?
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    Yes even your small bowl could be getting you 20g of carbs. I find the eggs more filling, especially if I have three! (Still no carbs!) and I usually have a little bit of cheese and I cook it in butter. I don’t count calories but I do observe 16/8 every day. Soya milk is definitely an acquired taste but there are others you could try to. Don’t be tempted to go for skimmed milk though as bizarrely it has more carbs than full fat!