Hi HoneyBee
I tried this diet a couple of months ago and had exactly the same. I reckoned the headache, in my case which lasted at least 2 days, was sugar withdrawal. It is really unpleasant but stick with it, it does pass and then you feel great. Keep hydrated but I think it is something you need to go through. Take painkillers if they help and take it easy for those days. Good luck and look forward to hearing by Thursday that it is all gone 😀

Hi there,
I am nearly four weeks in. I love food and cooking so I have found it challenging but I am sticking with it for lots of general health reasons. I have got through the low energy element of cutting out carbs and I am getting better at modifying the way I cook – I have a young family so cooking two meals is not a great option for me.

This is what I want to say — I am not at all sure if I am sticking exactly to 800 calories. I am staying off carbs, sugar and booze. And I really want to make it too 8 weeks and then not flick back to my old habits. I have lost some weight and that is great.

The only thing is – in a way I find it not so helpful to constantly be adding up calories in my head and referring to websites for calorie counts every meal time. It’s an extra step and a bit of a hassle to always be online. And I have this feeling that I might be “doing it wrongly’ if my meals don’t add up to 800 calories which makes me feel like it will all go to the dogs when my 8 weeks is up.

So I guess I’m saying – just how important is the 800 calorie count? I hope I am not sounding neurotic, I just want to get the most out of this effort and ensure it is not wasted as an isolated event, there is no way I would spend this much time paying attention to the calorie content of my meals as a matter of course.

I hasten to add, I am a healthy eater (generally) and rarely eat cake/biscuits etc.

Thanks for listening.

Hey Figment – Love reading your posts. Your results and your husband’s results are amazing – must be a huge motivation for both of you. Tuna with salad is just fine. You can also get tuna with various flavours. That’s also fine, although a bit heavier in calories. No need to drain those, just pour it over your salad and you have instant dressing. Yum!!

I thought that I would share a technique that I used to kick my 40yr nicotine addiction almost 6 yrs ago. I’ve found that it also helps me with food cravings. It’s a really simple technique that involves reminding yourself that you CAN have bread, sweets, chips – whatever it is that you are craving – absolutely any time you want – it’s just that CHOOSE not to have it right now. I find that this technique stops me feeling deprived and powerless and I also remind myself of all the reasons that I started this in the first place – health, weight loss, looking good, feeling good, fitting back into my favourite clothes etc etc. Puts all the emphasis back on the positives instead of the ‘poor me’s’. Hope that helps :-). BTW, I’ve just finished my 2nd week and I’ve lost 5kg and 10cm off my waist, so I’m super pleased with the results.

Hi Jan , well I weighed myself today and had put on 800 gramsugggh . I am off to Adelaide for three days so I am going to give the scales a break and will weigh on Saturday . I tried the body scan last night and fell asleep, then I could not sleep when I went to bed! I think my issue is nuts! I eat them on a regular basis so I can only blame myself! Anyway Greek yoghurt , passion fruit and a teaspoon of cinnamon for breakfast. I have worked out I have 43 kilos to release ! I am looking at it from the point of 5 kilo amounts. Hopefully in 7.5 weeks I will have lost 10 kilos. I am sure it is doable and I must remember I am as capable as all to adhere to this way of eating!

Wow Izzy you are so close – just 3 lbs away!!!
I am at a ceramic paint store painting ceramics with my husband, something we often do on my day off when I get one which today was only 1/2 day.
To my delight I figured out how to fit in tacos to my plan so we both had two corn tortillas with 1/3 c Refried beans (1/2 in each), 1 oz cheese in each, and 1 T salsa in each and they were yummy!!!! It’s the middle of week 11 so getting new foods introduced we can eat is a fun thing!
Wishing you the best!
💜

Oh now that was funny and must have made your day. How long has it taken you to lose the 18lbs? I’m sure you said you had been on this 3 weeks. surely thats taken much
Longer?
Regards Fig

Well today was day 2 week 2

Breakfast was portobello mushrooms again and due to finishing of this death trap of a metal shed, time went fast and I skipped lunch . By the time I had done the usual school run and shopping I thought dare I.?
So yes I did opt for a sirloin steak with steamed cabbage . I don’t snack at all but I do drink coffee with a little milk. I have tried not to but can’t get used to it . I also had one of those zero calorie orange lucozades not sure it’s allowed but always have to bend a rule or two.
Hubby just tested his sugars omg he’s told me he’s taken no medications at all today?…
At the start his sugar was over 14 don’t know how but 2 hours after dinner tonight 5.1
Weather this is a glitch or the shape of things to come I’m not sure but something some where is working. I never expected it to work so fast.
And my good news was I finally took of a little more weight after a weekend of fluctuating and now weigh 102.7 kilos
…
The thing is Jan hubby cooks more than I do I’ve got fybromialgia so we share a lot of kitchen chores .
I installed that ap but so far it just keeps asking me to log food.
That must take hours to log every ingredient?
I need to start some form of exercise but a bit limited at the moment. I need to try swimming again I think but we will see.
Any ideas if tuna in brine is ok with chopped salad? I think it is but nice to know.
Think it’s time I stopped for tonight I feel a coffee coming on
Good night all and Jan
Love fig

Hey julie13 good on you for keeping motivated. Like you I know there are going to be times that it will be nigh on impossible to stick to the 800 especially with socialising and it’s better to accept its not going to be a great loss week. I was relieved to hear that our Saturday night out last week with friends did not include dinner especially after the Indian on the Friday night. I would have struggled to stay motivated. I’ve been good at avoiding alcohol, just having a fizzy water has been plenty and I always have a good enough time without it, so far! My husband doesn’t know what to make of me without wine and he’s a non drinker 🙂

My Wednesday is definitely a better weigh in day, I was just under 10 4 today. (Fist pump) 🙂 This diet definitely works when it works so I’m sure you will reach your target weight in time for your holiday. Also knowing Igorasusual has done so well is really motivating, I still feel I’m far from that kind of success but who knows where we will be after our eight weeks😄

I’d never heard of those Janey, just checked them out on Amazon, they look funny! Added to Wishlist 🙂

There was more to it than filth, Epspecially!! It was a tearjerker!! Are you sure you’re not thinking of 50 Shades? 😉

Nighty night. I’m off too. Everyone sleep well, and let’s see what concoctions are cooked up tomorrow! I’ve too many bloody choices now, 6 days of meals and I want to eat them all tomorrow! Will it be pizza loaf, or will it be the nacho pastry lamb and mint samosa with raita, or… or…

Gone.

Ooo will have look for those books 👏🏻👍

Yes books into films can go badly wrong. Love cartoons though don’t watch enough. Brought my nieces to that sheep cartoon Shaun and laughed so much they were looking at me 😹😹😹

Time travellers wife? Think I read bits of that in a book shop once and found myself skipping to the racey bits😂
They obviously weren’t v good as didn’t buy it!

Right night night, I need to be asleep before 11 to continue my 3 day average 😫😫👏🏻👏🏻😹

Hi Penny, hope today (day 2) went well for you.
Below is a summary of my day:

Breakfast: 1 Poached Egg and Flat Mushroom
Lunch: M&S Sesame King Prawns & Rice Salad
Dinner: Piri Piri Pork Loin (had a few too many nuts, so ate the pork loin without anything else!)
Snakcks: 30g Cashews and a Nectarine

Total: 823 calories, 48g carbs
Water: 1L

Steps: 11,168
Active Minutes: 47

Not sure why, but I found it hard today!

Not a big fan of books being turned into films either. Occasional exceptions (Misery, Girl with Dragon Tattoo) bit generally I like my imagination to tell me what’s going on. Anyone read A Man Called Ove? Or My Grandmother Sends Her Regards & Apologises? Both marvellous books 👍🏼

‘Are you an Emperor? Because you RULE!’ – I mean, what the actual, everloving F word? Just because I’ve clicked a thumbs up on something…?

I haven’t read Girl on the Train yet, I probably have it on the Kindle waiting, in book limbo, getting pushed further and further down the list every day… 😉 Yes, I read While you were Sleeping too, I think it was SJ Watson or CJ Watson or something. I don’t know if it’s been made into a film, I’m not a huge film fan nor TV unless it’s sports or Cartoon Network (DON’T judge me lol), and I’m really not a fan of books being made into films. Now, books being made into serials, I’m fine with. I loved the Stephen King one about JFK’s assassination, that translated well. But trying to shove a book into 90 minutes? Time Traveler’s Wife. Loved the book. Raved about it to hubby. Made him sit through the film. He didn’t have a clue what was going on. Neither did I. I actually apologised to him. 90 minutes of my life I’ll never get back there!

This is my 2nd day; and I put on 2lb!! So not a happy bunny.

I tried the Blueberry and Green Tea and Melon & Blueberry shakes and I must admit, I don’t like them much. It might be my blender but the blueberry and green tea one has almonds in it and they did not grind down very well, so kept getting a mouthful of nuts every time I took a sip. The melon one was slightly better but kept getting lumps of melon. Might be time for a new blender.

For dinner yesterday, I had the ‘no carb ploughman’s’ and it was surprisingly tasty. Today, I had chicken breast with lime and coconut milk at it was delicious! Even the brown rice was tasty, and my family DEMANDED I make some for them, too!

And yes I liked gone girl but the other one the girl on the train? it was almost too scary – hated the scenes when she was drunk and trying to remember! We did it on bookclub and it freaked out loads of people. Another one was while you were sleeping or something – it became a film? Not sure I have that title right actually, someone Watson wrote it.
Scary. But really I prefer murders 🤓

I have a fit bit too and I like those!!! 😂😂😂 it’s like it’s minding me 👏🏻👏🏻 not to mention the cheery reminders, high five etc 👍👍👍😝

Yes!! Omg we are so onto something here😂😂😂👏🏻

heee heee I love your suggestions😹😝

X=256 calories “bet you’re sorry you ate that now, aren’t you!”
😂😂

My fitness band gives me really cheery ‘Yayyyyyyyy you GO girl’ type hints when I’m doing well, and slightly patronising ones when I’m not. ‘Hmmmmm, your 211 step count today is slightly under your weekly average. Ten mile walk now? You in?’ Or ‘You’ve slept 2 minutes less than is recommended this week. Bed by 4.30 pm tonight? You in?’ It buzzes at 10 every night to tell me to go to bed. What am I, 12?

‘You really shouldn’t have cooked that, let alone eat it. And you know this. Bananas? No no.’

‘You are aware it’s 800 calories a day, and not 8000… right?’

”Congratulations! You have now eaten your body weight in Gram Flour!’

As long as it’s a good old fashioned cozy murder, they’re ok. Less… murderous than other types of murder 😀

I really like these new style psychological thrillers? In the Gone Girl vein, where you really don’t know what the hell is going on until the end, and even then you’re not 100%. Especially if they’re British ones. Disclaimer was one of the last ones I read, that was really creepy and I didn’t see it coming at all. I’ve got so many backed up on my Kindle if I did nothing but read for the rest of my life, I wouldn’t clear them. And I keep getting free ones from Bookbub every day 🙁 Someone stop me 🙁

Haha Epspecially, hey, there’s obviously a gap in the market… just saying… you could make a fortune!! Or maybe the powers that be could devise an app… (if you’re watching PTB…)

Hee heeee my fitness pal, I can’t believe it doesn’t have options for “BSD disaster: one bite, half spat out: 53 calories. Those app designers have no sense of humour, I’d have put in all kinds of stuff to keep the dieters cheered up😂😂

Ha ha ha Tokyo, you’re very restrained though! 😂😂 I wouldn’t have been able to stop myself saying it was 💩😹😹😹

Books and rain and cats, in there too! Love thrillers and murders too – anyone read Tess Gerritsen? Very good. Also Agatha Christie (repeatedly) and brother cadfael stories by Ellis peters, sooo good. Apparently they cozy murders -none of your real life evil books for me, just the odd cozy murder😂Hey Ellis letters books are in 9th century Wales, lucky you and izzy might like as historic interest too 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Back latish so had thrown together dinner: courgetti and tomatoes and slice of blue cheese and prawns, Tokyo your husband would have been proud😝Also had some Greek yoghurt.

it would more than wilt !!!!

Put down the knife and move away from the bread bin! You need some emergency fruit and yoghurt or a few cubes of cheese. We should bring out the wilted kale of disappointment for you..

i have no idea how or what he did to cock it up needless to say i am f😀😀😀😀😀😀 starving !!!!!!
note to self DONT LET HUBBY COOK
hes done one before and it was lovely so didnt think it was a problem !!!
i could eat some nice hit buttered toast if i had bread !!!!

Omg Tokyo! What on earth did he do to it? How do you cock up a frittata ffs, it’s one of the simplest things in the world to cook? Yes, at least he tried lol.

Thanks Janey, now I know 🙂

ROFL, reading between the lines I’m guessing you didn’t like it!!! 😆😆😆😆 At least you’ll be under on calories lol. At least he attempted to cook…

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/as-happy-as-larry.html You’re welcome, Lucky!

wwll i advised anyone reading this post to realised at the end of every sentence as i write i am removing a certain swear word !!!!
the reason for this is , tea planned for tonight . veg frittata. hubby says i will cook it . i get everything out ready for him when he comes in from work . hubby cooks said tea . and the only way i can describe it is
it was f😀😀😀😀😀😀 awful i wanted to chuck it in the bin !! he was going off how well he done . how lovely it was. i on the other hand was thinking really are you b😀😀😀😀😀 serious !! so i had not even a quarter of . and he asked ” dont you like it?”
” no i am just full” i say. so cannot go and make anything else after that !!
so my fitness pal when i fill you in tonight tea will be written in as a great pile of s😀😀😀 wonder how many calories that is
p.s i had a spoon of sugar in my tea after to stop me from wasting away !!!
i thank you !!!!!!!!!!

Ooooh yes please! Hey, some of these might be worth a 21st century BSD resurgence!

I’m with you there (not like in your bed or anything, because that would be a tad awkward). I have a cuddle chair all to myself in the living room, and I just curl up on it with my Kindle. I couldn’t care less if the telly blew up and was never replaced. As long as I have my iPod and a book, I’m as happy as Larry.

Who WAS Larry?

I’ll have to dig out the peanut curry recipe for you. It goes way back (20 years) to when my friend and I used to have Thursday curry nights (vegetarian) and we tried to outdo each other! Think she found the peanut winner. Bean sprout foogath and aubergine bharta were also stupendous. My sister complained my house always reeked of curry, but I liked the aroma!

Still sneezing here on the sofa with a blanket. Book is ‘The City of Mirrors’. Final part of a post apocalyptic trilogy that my sister got me into. Generally I prefer a murder or thriller but these are good stuff. My perfect rainy afternoon would be tucked up in bed with a good book, cuppa and a cat or two for company ☺️

Yep, I’ll take that recipe. Will post when they’re done 🙂

Hahaha yes, it does tend to linger, but if you like your home smelling like a curry house, then it’s fab! People could smell my curries cooking from the end of the street! No, I’ve never had a peanut curry? Sounds intriguing! Pray tell.

Ah, pffffffffft to the kids, it just means all the more for you. Hahahaha love it! Yes dear, of course it’s chicken…

Oh no 🙁 Summer colds are so much worse than winter ones, where they seem almost justifiable. I haven’t had one yet, although, I actually may well have done and not realised through my state of perma-allergy. Go to bed with a cuppa and your book. What are you reading, anything interesting? I’ve just started ‘The Tipping Point’. Been meaning to read it for ages. Hope you’re feeling better soon 🙂

Current Day 12/07/16

Week 1
Day 2

BMI: 29.8
Weight: 18 stone 5 Pound (117 Kg)

Current Day 12/07/16

Week 1
Day 2

BMI: 29.8
Weight: 18 stone 5 Pound (117 Kg)

Hi HoneyBeeMee
Maybe your are drinking too much! Possibly not eating enough !
Try cutting down to 2 litres a day for a couple of days and then go up to 2.5 and gradually build up.
I don’t know what your normal water consumption was but if it was quite low then the extra water, all in one go, may just be making you feel bad.
Beat of luck it will work out.

This is a simple log of my starting conditions (Height, Weight etc) and a daily record of the changes. I will not be listing food intake or recipes as there is plenty of information already on this subject. This will only record the physical changes.

Week 1
Day 1
11/07/16

Starting conditions:
Height 6 Feet 6 inches
BMI 29.9
Weight 18 Stone 6 Pound (117 Kg)

Hi everyone.. The end of day 2 for me – my head feels like it’s going to explode for the last 24hrs.. I feel like I have a dehydrated headache but have drank over 3litres of water each day.. Can anyone recommend any thing or is it just my body adjusting??

Those buns look mighty fine (ooh er). A burger could definitely go in one! Lucky, I’m nominating you to try that recipe first.

I also used to cook up vats of curry gravy. My house used to stink for days afterwards!! But great as a base for curries, most definitely. Nowadays I just wing it with my Indian food. By the way have you ever had a peanut curry? It’s the business!!

Kids just judged my beautiful bread creation as unacceptable altho the OH is still quite happily munching through it. I did get my own back by putting Quorn in their Thai noodles tho. 😈

Seem to have acquired a summer cold as the day has gone on. Am sneezing and sniffling like a good ‘un. Did consider sloping off to bed with my book. I should be beating my grey roots into submission this evening but they’ll have to wait another day before I regain my youthful exterior. Snottering nose probably puts paid to the 20sthg look tonight anyway 😷

The new BUNG HOLE method can save the NHS millions!
I’d like to give a hearty belly laugh but…. hey….can’t find my belly anymore. 😉
Thanks for sharing.
N

Hi SunnyB
I have bought some low fat grated cheese – just 30% lower and it goes a lot further, and I still get some fat. I do use some omega grains and seeds mix in salads.

Today I ate a yoghurt for the first time in 30+ years, but, it was a Danone zero fat blueberry yoghurt – so no fat, but the good news was that I could eat it and found it Ok (ish).

I use a vinaigrette at the moment with mostly vinegar and a little bit of olive oil as a dressingl. I make sugar-free jellies with summer berries and can use 12.5 gm of squirty low fat cream which gives me a bit of fat and is only 30 cal or so..

But, I’m at day 9 and am going OK, thanks to your help and others in the forum. As I say I have low carbed for a good few years and it is now a question of tweaking it to be lower carb and cal. TBH, I was allowing the carbs to creep back a bit in my diet and because I don’t test my blood had no way of knowing how my BG levels were. I was due my HbA1c a fortnight ago but told the nurse I was trying a diet and would that I would take the HbA1c after the diet. She was none too pleased, but at the end of the day it is MY diabetes not hers. Tested my BP too for the first time in years as it was always high when I tested at home and lo and behold it was the lowest it has ever been – 119 over 69.

You didn’t gain too much weight over in Turkey so well done on that, I did post my first weeks loss in the 800 forum. It was 5 lb 11 oz. Do you have diabetes? As it is unclear from your profile info but you do mention ketosticks which made me think you might have it.

Thanks for your reply SunnyB it is very much appreciated and motivational.

Keep on losing in the (not so free) world

Hi Forkers

Insert practical for “lazy.” Remember you are training to maintain this pattern for ever therefore you need to adapt as you go.
I guess if you look at the tin under the carb rating you will see how much sugar lies therein. The palate doesn’t lie so something was going on.

Our taste buds and brain chemicals alter rapidly on this plan, I never had a sweet tooth anyway but now any thing the slightest bit sweet has me wincing, it tends to reduce the amount of that item I enjoy….hey presto.

Congrats on week 5. Times flies, I think I replied to you in the initial days.
N

Hi Epspecially,
Thanks for the pep talk, I needed it. Strangely enough I had made some carrot, courgette and lentil soup and followed by chicken stir fry and courgetti for dinner I have now got the bread goblin under control, you talked me out of it. It also helped that I lost 2 1/2lb this week as well, so was glad I managed to resist. How many weeks is it for you? Week 8 now for me and then I intend to do another 8 weeks. I’m going to try the chickpea and chorizo soup you recommended I can see that would be very satisfying. Let me know how you are getting on.😊

Hi all,
I fear I have got lazy in my 5th week as dinner wise I’m resorting to 100g chicken, 1/3 aubergine, 2 mushrooms and half a 400g tin of tomatoes.(plus spice and a splash of white wine vinegar) IS THAT TOO MUCH?
After iv eaten it, my mouth feels weird like it was full of sugar. Has anyone else experienced this?

Sea dog – my free version has let me set my targets at 800 etc?
Ah well Jan you can only nudge! I know it is time consuming but it is worth tracking for eg I did the fish parcel tonight and had no green beans but had asparagus in fridge so swopped them. The asparagus knocked both calories and carbs off the count! Sometimes just dropping a tomatoe or a few raisins from a recipe can really reduce carbs and calls too and doesn’t affect taste!

ay caramba and SunnyB

My feeling is that when I get to target I’ll stick with the low carb Mediterranean way of eating (it really is a habit now) and just gradually increase calories until I stabilise my weight. It’s the way I’ll be eating for the rest of my life so I don’t want to complicate it.

many people gain a little or lose little or nothing some weeks (myself included) it’s normal just keep doing the right things and it will come off again.

It is actually simpler than it looks Eps lol, as long as you have a read through and work out in what order to do things. Once that curry gravy is made, you’re laughing. If you ever get a chance to make it let me know and I can send you through all the recipes to go with, Madras, Korma, Bhuna, Vindaloo, Ceylon, Pathia, the list is huuuuuge. You will become so popular, it’s unbelievable. My friends don’t really like me, just my curry 🙁 There’s an email button on my blog 🙂

I’ve got to get up and give a reading in church. That’s if I’m not struck down by lightning (or my children, for that matter) before hand. I don’t want to show her up. Bride’s struggled with her weight for years too, so she knows how self conscious I feel. If I still look like a lump in it I will buy something more appropriate, but again, I will be waiting until the week before the wedding until I do, I want to squeeze every last ounce out of the weightloss hehe.

Oh. My. God. You could put a burger on those, you think? They look like it. Or a burger between TWO anyway 😉 #andthatswhyimfat

Bookmarked…

I see I can’t post this in recipes as it’s not my own but would like to rant about the lovely meal I’ve just cooked from a BBC Good Food recipe. A lovely light fish dish. From Italy – 14th century no less! easy to make and very tasty. I found about half the quantity of fish was enough for me to eat at one go. I cooked 80g of fresh spinach for my veg.. Here is the link http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1653/almondcrusted-fish-with-saffron-sauce
Aldi sell packs of 2 sea bass fillets – have frozen the other one for next time.
I also didn’t have fresh fish stock so used a cube and didn’t have a shallot so used piece of a red onion. other than that… 🙂 Can’t see a way to add a photo so you will have to imagine the result.

http://www.viva.co.nz/article/food-drink/hemsley-flaxseed-buns-recipe/

Though I remember something reading about flaxseeds and estrogen levels so wouldn’t eat loads of these 😹😹😹😬
They look nice tho😂