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  • Carrying on from earlier. After seeing the article in the daily mail uk back in January the seed was planted to perhaps show my hubby and give this diet a go. Alas at the time he showed no interest. Miraculously last month he said to me “I’m thinking of going on this diet . What do you think.?”
    Of course I said what a great idea. He read the book and made me read it too.
    It took a while to get us both into the right mindset but we eventually started on the 4th July .
    My starting weight ( can I hide please) !!!! 106 kilos fatter than I was at full term with my lad. Oh I did get gestational diabetes and was told would more then likely get it in later life. I realised then what a bad disease it is as on 2 occasions I temporarily lost my vision for a couple of minutes all from too much sugar. Anyhow that’s another story.

    So while all America were celebrating I was sat here at day one

    Breakfast poached egg and avocado

    Lunch No carb plough mans

    Dinner : Vegetable curry with cauliflower rice.

    Feelings that day were ok we can do this. My downfall is rice so a little grin and bear it was needed on that one.

    Can’t wait to start some recipes but think I need to be reading a little more on the what’s what. Even though I’ve read the book and so much . I have a brain like a sieve and need to recap constantly.
    I think it will take a few days to try and catch up and get to where I am now which is week 2 day 1
    If anyone has any ideas on anything to help me in any way that would be great .

  • posted by  Scandigirl on How Many Weeks?
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    My feet have not hit the ground today. I am so happy! I had my check up with my dr and blood sugars were normal and blood pressure was so low. My dr said what in the world have you done! He was not familiar with Dr Michael Mosley, but was eager to hear. I am off all my meds now. I go back in 6 months for a follow up. Left there and had my appointment with my eye doctor and the pressure was down in my eyes.

    The change of eating is the best thing I have ever done for myself. About to hit 25 pounds then 30, then 35. I have to make small goals. I am so thankful for sticking with this and I will do 8 more weeks before I start the 5:2. Thanks for all the support!

  • posted by  greenjanet on Jans eight week journey.
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    Hi BSD peeps. Day 13 in the bag, couldn’t resist weighing myself, have now lost 17lbsπŸ‘Ό Yep my halo is shining, someone actually told me I had lost weight, don’t know how she could tell, I can’t really at the mo.

    Excellent day
    Fage and blueberries
    King prawn salad
    Chicken and green lentils
    Cals 799 carbs 45.7

    More than all this though my well being is through the roof, my body has experienced over the last 6 years a barrage of serious illnesses, I finally feel I am on the other side of those physically and psychologically. Last felt like this when I was 19.

    Happy day all of you tomorrow.
    Goodnight Jan πŸ“πŸ“πŸ“

  • posted by  Julia18togo on My eight weeks….
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    So I behaved myself today… v low carb and under 1000. Tomorrow I am aiming for less calories to be back within 800. Managed a run at lunchtime. I like the chia pudding thing for breakfast. Soaked in almond milk and with rosewater and orange flower water and cinnamon. Yum. Night all.
    Julia

  • posted by  Epspecially on Hello :-)
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    Oo great about bread Success! πŸ‘πŸ»

    Hmm poor Lucky, it’s a tough life being a mammy I’d say! No kids myself, yet anyway so I know nothing clearly.
    he sounds like he needs one of those bootcamps where they shout a lot. Or maybe the opposite, to do some humanitarian charity work for free or something! Hopefully something will resolve it soon.

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Won’t know until this mythical letter arrives Janey, and I tell you, nearly 21 or not, he’ll be opening it in my presence!

    Brilliant news! Do you think it would toast? Make a sandwich?

  • posted by  Janeycoughdrop on Hello :-)
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    Oh dear Lucky, try not to strangle him (easier said than done, I’m sure). Can he retake the year?

    Now, the bread. It’s actually not bad! Quite a dense texture but definitely more bread-like than cake. Released from its tin after 2 hours and tried with a scrape of butter…OH even approved (but then he loves walnuts). It’s more savoury than sweet but I’m not sure you could put marmite on it!

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Pizza, Dr Oetker Ristorante Speciale pizza. Nothing special, but I want it so much. I bought one two days before I started this diet. I cooked it for my son the other day. I’m surprised I had the restraint not to eat it, knowing it was there.

    Epspecially, he’s so frustrating. He hasn’t looked for anywhere to live for next year, and I know he won’t want to live at home, just keeps saying ‘Oh, I need to check my emails’. So, if he gets back in that means ME running around like a blue assed fly trying to sort it for him. When we ask him what happens now he was saying he needed to wait until August to get his results. Well, of course hubby was seeing all friends and family posting ‘Well dones’ to their lot for passing first year on Facebook. So we make discreet enquiries, results are out now, and resits are in August, not results! He hasn’t done anything to sort his grant out, as hubby and I need to fill in the forms too, I had to keep him until November last year as he cocked his application up and didn’t have a bean to his name. Waiting now for ‘a letter’ from the Uni to see if he’ll be allowed back. He either doesn’t care, can’t be bothered or is lying to us and whichever it is, it’s aggravating me. If he even showed some remorse about it, but it’s just blank stares and silence and ‘I don’t know’ whenever we ask anything. Found him absolutely paralytic drunk last Friday morning, eight empty beer cans on the floor of his room, and a can – an open half full can – leaned between his sleeping body, and his plugged in laptop! He’d started drinking well after 11 when we’d gone to bed. I said to him, who the hell starts drinking at that time of night, on their own, at home, on a bloody Thursday? I asked him if this was the sort of thing he was doing in his halls? And he must have still been drinking up to about 6 am. It’s equally frustrating and frightening to be honest. He’s giving me a wide berth at the moment after I told him never to do that under my roof again or he’d be packed off to live with his father.

  • posted by  Switzerland on Izzy's 8 week diary :)
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    Hi Izzy,
    I’ve not read either of those books – thank you for posting about them and the link. (Now you’re giving me homework)
    I’m glad you’ve had a good day.

  • posted by  pennyrua on Penny's motivation & diary thread
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    Thank you Izzy that is really good advice about carbs. I will definitely keep an eye on them. Your diary is an inspiration!

    Hello reversing_prediabetes ! Thank you for sharing your diary. I find it really helpful and I hope you do too. Well done on all the steps, I’m going to try and do more on day 2.

    Best of luck!

  • Tuesday morning update: down another 1.5lbs!
    Finally broke through the 10 6lbs, seems what I have been doing has been working regardless.

    Also meant to say I have been taking some new supplements advised by Dr Hyman for estrogen metabolising as most of my weight goes on my hips, might be too soon to see a difference with them but yay this is a feel good day!

  • posted by  Epspecially on Hello :-)
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    Tokyo ooo great question and and this minute ypu know what nothing really!! Loads of delicious stuff to eat. I guess maybe a lushious piece of chocolate cake or brownie but then I know that is feel instantly sick after it so what’s the point! Great about work and salad eating. Wouldn’t bother trying to convince any one what’s good or what’s not because people will be blue in the face defending their choices and whatever works for them is good for them I guess..

    Listened to a documentary about people who write in a book to st Valentine in a church near us, some hilarious stories and one v sad one about a guy who writes to his wife who died b young. He seems to find it helps though he doesn’t even know why. This little church has bones of st Valentine in it so people write for love. And on that note good night everyone! Tomorrow is day 2 on the second leg, on we go πŸ‘πŸ‘

    Lucky I can imagine how frustrating that is about potential-walker-son, but lots of people do badly in first year and then get a bit of a shock and cop on. Hopefully it ll all work out. At least he’s sociable (!) and probably well adjusted as can make friends and enjoy himself? And isn’t miserable and lovely for a whole year. All guessings and probably don’t help but an attempt! 😘

  • posted by  reversing_prediabetes on Penny's motivation & diary thread
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    Hi Penny,
    Welcome!! I too started today after reading a number of threads over the weekend.

    I hope you do not mind me detailing my journey here too.
    I’m pre-diabetic and roughly 3 stone overweight. I am unhappy with my appearance and certainly worried about a diagnosis of diabetes, if I continue with my current lifestyle. I’m hoping this diet will give me the structure that I need and the discipline to go for a low carb-high fat diet once I’ve completed the 8 weeks.

    Breakfast: 1 Poached Egg and Flat Mushroom
    Lunch: M&S Harissa Chicken with Couscous
    Dinner: Pan Fried Hake Fillet with Broccoli

    Total: 703 calories, 63g carbs
    Water: 1.5L

    Steps: 10,399
    Active Minutes: 52

    Looking forward to tomorrow.

  • posted by  sunshine-girl on very low blood glucose
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    Thank you Ziggy, although well meaning it is taking high sugar or high carb remedies is what got my blood so high in the first place. A little history. Diabetic for 10 years, never had any problem controlling b/g. I had really good HBA1C’S for many years, usually around 5.5. My doctor said I was a star patient because I kept b/g and weight down. One day for no reason I had a hypo. My b/g was 6.8 pre breakfast, then I ate a breakfast of 2 weetabix, sat down to watch Lorraine and saw the telly screen moving about, called my husband and blacked out and vomitted. So no reason for hypo.

    It scared me a bit but mainly scared my husband who sent me to see the doctor, who sent me to see a nutritionist who put me on a high carb diet. She said if I ate carbs at every meal I would keep a stable b/g, despite the fact I had never had unstable readings or previous hypo. Anyway, I trusted her advice and after 4 months my HBA1C was 11, my weight had also increased by 4 kg so I stopped eating high carb but (not having found this diet) just cut out too much bread and got my HBA1C down to 8.1 and then I found this diet. That is why I don’t want to counteract low readings by having glucose tablets (pure sugar), jelly babies or anything else like that. I will take the earlier advice of having some nuts, a couple of prunes or a slice of meat. But thank you anyway.

    I don’t know what forum you use but I have not found one that recommends this diet, just high carb, low fat, and all the traditional thinking. This is a new world. Let me know what it is called and I will have a look.

    Many thanks for your interest and for answering my post.

  • posted by  tokyo14 on Hello :-)
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    no one said a thing only comment i got was i looked tired ?? do you think !! i had to sleep on sofa due to hubby snoring like a good one !!!!!
    and its hard to tell i. our uniforms of scrubs !!! we all look like we have gone to the biggest pyjama party ever !!!!!!!
    so i just sat quietly eating my salad thinking why are you not a chocolate chip cookie !!! oh why !!!
    heres a question if you could have one bit of food that your ” not allowed” what do you think it would be ??

  • posted by  Izzy on Izzy's 8 week diary :)
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    it is definitely a good book to encourage your own creativity I read a chapter every week and if I hadn’t finished everything I just took the extra time I needed πŸ™‚

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Yayyy fer lunchtime contact with Brenda!

    Lol, Bloody Stupid Dieter! Did anyone comment on your weight loss? Yes, you’re right, probably best not to go all lunchbox police on their asses or you’ll make yourself unpopular, especially when your diet is working so well πŸ˜‰ Just lead by example and remain constantly in a higher state of smugness πŸ˜‰

  • posted by  tokyo14 on Hello :-)
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    i cant possibly reply to all i have missed!!! however i am intrigued on the bread front !! janey !
    i have however been moved at work in a new area so at lunch today it was like a mobile phone gathering everyone had theres out and could get signal so on weds i shall not be so out of it !!!!! and ” brenda” will have returned to her thelma and louise !!!!!
    also i shall be gearing myself up for thurs routine weigh day although may have a cheeky look tomorrow !!
    working with lots of ladies today ” eating all healthy food” for lunch and i wanted to say nope thats not good neither is that but felt may become known as that ” Bloody Stupid Dieter”(see what i did there!!!! god i am good !!
    i want to know janey was the food processor good ?

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Yes, it’s kept ‘put up’ and it has to be turned sideways or it blocks all access, but when it’s up, it goes down (only just too!) the little corridor we have to our outhouses. So you walk out of the kitchen, duck under the… console, is that the word? onto the actual conveyor belt and then step off left to the loo or step off the end to get to the room with the fridge/freezer. It’s not easy being me. I think it would ruin outside. The only child that would go with me, has gone out somewhere. Plus I’m not talking to him at the moment because it appears that he’s failed his first year at Uni. Misunderstood the sentiment behind ‘Fresher’s Week’ and decided to have ‘Fresher’s Year’ instead. Apparently there was an ‘under 60% attendance rate’ in the mix too… Not a happy Mummy. Especially when at his age I was married and raising him, while all my peers were in Uni. I know you shouldn’t live through your kids but bloody hell, he’s been gifted my one true regret in life, handed to him on a plate, and he just fluffs it. Wooooooo off topic rant over. Sorry.

    Enjoy your walk πŸ™‚ x

  • posted by  Janeycoughdrop on Hello :-)
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    Well it LOOKS OK in the tin. Smells ok too although not very Bready. 1 hour down, 1 to wait. At this rate I’ll have to take a slice to bed with me..

  • posted by  Amhedin on July starter
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    Hello. OH and I are starting again. Our first 8 weeks was really successful (well, actually I went on holiday in Week 8 which wasn’t so great, but OH graduated with honours). Apart from weightloss, OH saw his blood sugars drop – mine were reasonable to start with and seemed to be pretty erratic throughout. Most of all we just felt more clearheaded and in control. Really didn’t miss the carbs, which surprised me as a lifelong lover of bread and potatoes. What we didn’t do was to plan our exit strategy and over the past 4 weeks we have struggled with making sensible choices. So we have decided to have another go round of the 8 weeks, and spend a lot more time thinking about where we are going at the end. I’ve done 5-2 which is fine but I tend to being very repetitive on the 500 cal days. Mediterranean would be a good way to go, but we hadn’t really got the mindset;
    So here we are again on Week 1 Day 1. It was a tough stretch between lunch and supper, but the food was delicious (I rely on the recipes in the book mainly). Feta and red peppers for lunch and harissa chicken for supper. Lovely to have all these salad leaved in season….

  • posted by  Epspecially on Hello :-)
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    Hee hee wow serious bargain! Stick it up somewhere and get going – people can walk over it? Can it be put outside with a cover over it? πŸ‘πŸ‘

    You’ll have to recruit one of the childer as a walker buddy. I like evenings for walking, lots of lovely dogs outπŸ˜€(Though I am seriously procrastinating here now, right, that’s it, gone!!)

  • posted by  Epspecially on How Many Weeks?
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    Exactly the same loss here Scandigirl πŸ‘πŸ»
    I’m going to do it for another 8 weeks and then just continue with the general principles for ever! Hopefully..
    Would like to lose same amount again and then I’d be in the middle of healthy weight range for my health

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Hehehehehe πŸ˜‰

    Very good. I wish I could go out and walk but nobody to go with and hubby wouldn’t let me go alone in the night time. Or the day time for that matter, after the last time when my ex-before-hubby accosted me and offered me a lift to where I was going. Thing is, I’d seen him go past me once, I’d recognised the numberplate, and he would have had to have made a circular drive of around 3 miles in order to be able to pass me in the same direction – again! Creepy much. I’ve got a treadmill but we have to put it up and sideways on as our house is small, and it’s a proper ballache dragging it out, it’s a proper full sized gym one. Looked online and brand new it cost something ridiculous like Β£1200. Selling on Facebook for Β£60. Hubby went to look at it. Alone. Took four adult men to get it in the house. We had to remove radiators, door knobs and actual doors to get it in. So a bargain but bloody hell… common sense has to dictate sometimes, right? People have to walk under and over it to get to the downstairs loo and fridge and freezers, can’t get anything bigger than a watering can in or out of the back door etc. We’d have to take it apart piece by piece if we ever needed to move it.

  • posted by  Ziggy on How Many Weeks?
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    Oops – just read this post

    posted by captainlynne
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    Hi
    For those graduating from 8-weeks, these clubhouses are currently open: after the 8 weeks and beyond, after 16 weeks, and after 23 weeks (yes, I know it should be 24 weeks, but I was on holiday at the time). The next club house to open, in 6 weeks, will be the after 32 weeks club.
    All welcome.

  • posted by  Epspecially on Hello :-)
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    Heee heee I was interested in the soccer!! The cheek. πŸ˜€πŸ˜‚
    No, tonight I will be the athlete πŸ€“ will listen to a radio documentary as then don’t need a watch, just come home when it’s over πŸ˜‚πŸ‘

  • posted by  Ziggy on How Many Weeks?
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    If you read a few of the topics with a lot of pages in them Scandgirl, a number of people have done a second 8 weeks and some have done more.

  • posted by  JanieB on July starter
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    I have started today. Yesterday used mums glucometer to measure my fasting blood sugar. 7.2 was not the result I had been expecting, so having read “The Blood Sugar Diet” some weeks ago I have immediately launched into the 800 calorie a day diet. If there is no change in 8 weeks I will go to the doctor for an official diagnosis. Hoping that won’t be necssary. Am 54 and 19 stone so hopefully I can shift 30+ lbs and also get BP and cholesterol down. Wish me luck!

  • posted by  Ziggy on very low blood glucose
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    Glucose tablets, or jelly babies are good for low BGs. Protein will do nothing to raise your BGs. How long have you been diabetic? Your body is probably adjusting to the shock of coming down to a more normal BG. Exercise can also cause your BGs to drop.

    Under 3 for most diabetics is considered to be heading towards hypoglycemic shock. Also for a person who is used to a normal BG of 11, 3.3 is a real shock to your body.

    I gained a lot of this from an excellent Diabeties forum I am a member of.

  • posted by  faolan on Inulin
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    I allowed myself to be persuaded that Braggs apple cider vinegar would compliment inulin, Don’t!, even well diluted it scorched my oesophagus and made me feel very very nauseous All Day!, so that went into the bin.
    I’m continuing with the inulin on low fat yogurt, it reminds me of glucose powder, but isn’t it the same family?

  • Hi to anyone who will read this.
    First of the reason for my title is literally how life feels right now a wobbly person ,,!,
    I’m not diabetic or even close and generally have quite low sugar although my husband has been type 2 diabetic for a fair few years now. He has been told that tablets are no longer controlling his diabetes and will soon have to go on insulin .
    so I am doing this diet to support him to see if together we can stick to it and reverse his bad sugar levels.
    I do although I forgot to add need to lose weight and loads of it. I was vastly overweight then gave up smoking (cold turkey) last October 1st. 2015 and proceeded to put on around 20 kilos.
    So here goes, I will carry on my introduction a little later . I really wanted to ask which ap any of you finds helpful for carbs etc .

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    That’s got to be at least an 8 mile walk to burn that little lot off, Epspecially. Is there no sporting event on tonight that you can feign interest in and watch instead? Curling? Darts? Greyhound racing?

  • posted by  Epspecially on Hello :-)
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    Ooo maybe it reforms itself in the tin, like an alien…
    I’m going for a walkπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ˜ to get rid of sickness feeling from mouthful of eggy custard I ate and from two (small) pieces of dark chocolate I might have eaten🚢🚢🚢

  • posted by  Ziggy on Inulin
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    Qunikydinky – I just started inulin today and came across this thread this evening.
    I am taking inulin powder in water, and have started at 3 gm and will build up slowly to let my gut become accustomed to it.

    I am very interested in the connection between the second brain (the guts) and insulin production. as posited in MM television documentary about the 800 diet.

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Good grief! 2 hours??? Pourquoi? What will happen if you take it out after, for example, an hour and a half? Keep us updated!

  • posted by  Janeycoughdrop on Hello :-)
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    The ‘bread’ has been Deloreaned and is in the oven. If that turns into a loaf I will eat my low carb hat. Keep a page spare in the WTDW (Well That Didn’t Work) book. 30 mins to cook, 2 hours to cool in the tin before I’m allowed to try and prise it out πŸ™„

  • posted by  Ziggy on Ziggy's Progress on the BSD
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    Thanks SunnyB,

    Just got to keep telling myself that I am doing it for me, and the (supposed) Summer is a great time for doing it cause of all the salads etc. Do any people, as MM tells in his book, have to end it early, owing to having gotten to their goal (which in my case is diabetes reversal) early. I wouldn’t know if I have since
    a) I don’t have testing equipment as the NHS don’t think type 2s have to test and
    b) on this low cal diet, my BS post-meal would be normal as I’m not eating enough carbs to spike them.

    Thanks for your encouragement

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Oh no! Which one, the second one? Buggery. Another for ‘Well, That Didn’t Work – BSD recipes NOT to try, Volume 1’?

  • posted by  Ziggy on blood sugar!
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    My last 12 six monthly HbA1c blood tests have all been under 40, but I still have diabetes. I just control it – not the other way around. What I am hoping is that this diet will reverse my diabetes

  • posted by  Epspecially on Hello :-)
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    Banana custard FAIL! 😫😫😫
    It’s gross..grey and eggy tasting, like a disgustingly flavoured soufflΓ©

    Ah well, on the plus side at least I won’t waste calories on sugar!

  • posted by  Verano on Just used cauliflower rice for the first time!!!
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    Well just amazed!! Used cauliflower rice in a stir fry instead of rice or noodles and I can’t quite believe how good it was. I actually enjoyed the chicken fried ‘rice’ more with cauliflower than I ever have done with rice or noodles! And feel so much better without the carbs!

    Just looking forward to using cauliflower rice again soon

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Izzy, nuts is just the tip of the iceberg! We have candlemaking, Guantanamo, tutting at wilted kale, selfish walnut stealing OH’s, Tokyo’s return to work, and Janey’s affectionate pet name for her… er… food processor (I hope it’s her FP, anway!)