GENIUS. You’re wasted on here..

Not courgetti, but you know what I mean. I posted this once and it wouldn’t let me.

Buy butternut squash courgetti. Snip into tiny pieces. You’re welcome.

That loaf looks good.. Although grating squash?? Really??? I’d better do that before I have my nails done tomoz!!

I feel I should bake something now…

Hi, started the 800 cal diet on Monday. My sig gives all my information, apart from the fact that I am on Ramipril tablets for high blood pressure. I did tell my practice nurse I was starting the diet and should I come off my BP meds and she said ‘Sure, why would you come off them?’ I reckon if I start getting dizzy I may stop them, as during my last diabetes MOT she said your BP is fine, you should ask the Dr to take you off the meds, I did ask the doc and she said ‘Sure, why would you want to do that’ – yes, singing off the same hymn sheet.

So, hi to all the other losers here. Many of you vgetarian? I’m making up my own diet as I don’t like most of the recipes in the book.

Will do a bit of reading now.

Janey, how about you try out your new pan with that??? (And send me some next day delivery)

So envious of you going to see Tour de France , even my dogs react to the music now!!! 🐾🐾

Oh Epspecially, how good does that look?

Thank you! I will persevere. Just got a little worried as I didn’t think it would go up. Will see what happens next week.
My first test was in the afternoon of the 3rd day as the monitor didn’t arrive until then ! my second was first thing in the morning on the 5th day – I thought this would be better, but as I write this I realise I perhaps need to give it more time . Patience is not my strong point!
Thank you for taking the time to reply , it means s lot.

Awwww lol – I’m not always this good, you know! I’m a bit of a pastry fiend myself, so there was a slight selfishness in my actions 😉 Salmon sounds nice though, I haven’t had salmon for years, the hubby isn’t keen but he will eat it at a push. Used to do it in soy, ginger, garlic, chilli flakes, lime juice and spring onion, in little parcels in the oven. I’m not eating enough fish, I know that. I really need to get my act together in the next couple of weeks. The children will be finished at school and I will be tearing my hair out and eyeing up pizza.

Oh! I had my favourite pizza in the freezer. And to be honest, I’d planned on ‘treating myself’ with it, probably after my first week’s weigh in, but after losing a stone in the first week, I couldn’t bring myself to do it. It’d keep for another week, I decided. And another. And another… It’s been calling me on occasion, bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, crisps… not bothered. But this bloody pizza! So, tonight, I cooked it for my son who is home from Uni. It’s gone now 🙂 So I know I can’t lose the plot and go and cook it if I’m having a bad day 😀 I nearly cried cutting it up though, I won’t lie.

*Toddles off to hunt down the chickpea flour pizza base…*

https://www.thehealthychef.com/2014/06/paleo-pumpkin-bread-2/

Thinking of making this though using butternut squash and no honey. Know it’s not under the ground veg but mightn’t be too bad for just a slice, will have to check

Good luck with the bbq Janey, loads of yum stuff to eat from there, wonder could you bring some mushrooms and peppers on sticks with pork or something delicious on them too? Though if someone else’s bbq that mightn’t be possible-enjoy it anyway!

Lucky pie sounds delicious – wish I was a husband whose wife made me tasty and healthy meals!!😹 Just had baked salmon and threw in fennel which I found at back of fridge and some spring onion, and lime juice and it was actually pretty nice! Forgot how nice salmon is baked. Definitely full now tho as usual still dreaming of chocolate😜 Will have done herbal tea…

Hi Switzerland,

Hahaha, I really don’t know what I would wear, we are limited in what we can pack too! I could say I would wear a white, red, yellow or spotted hat, but that would be no use would it, a couple of years ago we were at the finish in Montpellier when a woman near us kept a red umbrella up to keep the sun off her! We had to,ask her to put it down as no one could see anything, I could do that but don’t think I could get away with it? She was English too! Although I could see her point, we were there from about 10am and the riders didn’t come through til 5pm! All the French were there nothing on their heads arms or legs! We, my brother, husband and me were covered up and coated in sun cream! We didn’t get away until after 6pm so it was a long day but we loved it.
I could do a big banner with BSD written on it and hold that up? Not sure what the two David’s would say! ( brother and husband).
What has happened to Cadel Evans? We always rooted for him before Wiggins and Cav came on the scene?
Christine

Hi MikeC,
Ah you live in Australia, sorry didn’t realise, of course.
I love olive oil, I used to use coconut oil, however my daughter, who is living with us while she retraines from a job she hated to something she loves, a no brainier really, well she doesn’t like the flavour, she says it taints all the food!
I use butter when I do omelettes, mmm they are lovely too.
I don’t drink really, the occasional glass of wine with dinner on a Sunday, sometimes when we are out for a meal too, otherwise I drink tea, instant! coffee, and water, my family despair of me being so ordinary!
I have been doing the diet for 22weeks, I have lost 33lbs I have had a lot of problems with ill health, and a few holidays and celebrations that got in the way for a couple of months, then we go to France on Sunday to stay with my brother, we will be going to see the Tour de France for a couple of days with him, so there will be problems eating well there!
We look after three of our grandchildren here, then we go to Sheffield for three days to look after two there, we come back for the weekend then head off to Scotland to look after four there! well three really the eldest is nearly 19! so we are kept busy and I’m kept on my toes trying to make the diet fit in with all the comings and goings!
Here’s hoping you do a lot better than me, with your doing the diet with your other half. Good luck and keep posting.
Christine

You are not alone in getting that reaction for others, when explaining what the BSD is about. However, when your results become obvious to all, those friends will be back wanting to know how they can achieve the same. Meanwhile, you know you can get support from those of us on the forum.

I don’t personally know how it feels to be trapped in a binge cycle, but emotional eating and I are not strangers, so understand self sabotage is hard to control, but if you can recognise the triggers, perhaps you can start to find ways of taking evasive action. Have you sought any professional support in your mission to combat your bingeing? It might be the best way to break the cycle.

Have a good w/e and try to start believing you have the power to do this, ‘cos I’m sure you can.

Make sure you are including enough fibre in your meals too. If you are in doubt, take some Psyllium Husk to be sure, but again, make sure you are dinking plenty, as this will make a difference.

I’ll have a root tomorrow then 🙂

Ooooooooooh are you baking something tonight?

Pie meal was a bit of a revelation… it was only a small piece of pie, some mashed cauli, some steam veg and some mushy peas. I tucked into my veg first (habit, because I love veg) and… I left about a quarter of a piece of pie and a load of veg. Not because it wasn’t nice, but because I was done. Hubby ate his pie and peas and left most of the other veg. Both stuffed. I need to stop filling our plates like how we used to eat, because even though we’ d had very little to eat all day, and in the past we’d be starving and clear it, we just didn’t want it now, I couldn’t think about eating another mouthful. My stomach must be the size of a chickpea or something 😉

Not a medic but used to be a nurse. I very much doubt a diet can CAUSE haemorrhoids. Have you suffered with constipation during the diet and this can push them down or make them bleed. Drink plenty of water.

Tops are quicker to start fitting!

My loaf tin has arrived….

Fourth week in and suffering really bad from haemorrhoids, is this down to the diet and if yes has anyone suffered the same and what did you do to combat this I am in so much pain and discomfort and been to the doctors twice, please help if you went through the same.

Looking forward to your comments if you have experienced the same side affects whilst on BSD

I’ve not even thought about my tops yet!

I know Tokyo, who’d have thought indeed. Pastry on the BSD! Thank you 🙂

I’ve got many, many more Cinderella moments to come, in many different sizes too 🙂

janey- what about some chickpea flour cake sure theres a recipe out in the chickpea recipe universe or a cheese cake of some description i am sure i have seen a key lime pie in the recipes on here
lucky – you have done so well and kept us smiling too !!
a pie for tea who would have thought it !!! and hurrah on clothes we have all had our cinderella moment this week !!

It could be PMT, but I think it’s a tad early for me. Just tired after this week’s traipsing. And instead of being able to relax this weekend, I now have to catch up on all the housework I didn’t do this weekend. With bickering children. All my children dislike ach other, it’s soul destroying.

Sausage wraps are the business. Is it just me though, or do you find the wraps are nicer ‘fresh’? I haven’t had much success with freezing them and I don’t enjoy them so much cold.

You could make a dessert, if you thought you were going to be tempted by whatever else is on offer? If not, and you’re having food and wine, you might not even want it.

thank you SunnyB – I hope so!! although I am not exactly sure where I want to be

a sad thing I thought today – was with two friends, who also have ‘big’ weight issues
they were asking what I am/am not eating
so I said – no pasta, bread dah dah dah dah
then they both said ‘no life’

since we all three are binge eaters and all know that our binges are out of control stuffing and not pleasurable at all, I wondered at it
I just said that what is my life when I am sat bingeing? stuffing packets of biscuits and cake down my throat
is that a life?
I am way way off from solving the bingeing disorder – and I do still binge and need it more than I do it
but it is NOT a life, it is torture
I really don’t want to spend the rest of my life like this

although right now I long for it

Pie should be ok – fingers crossed, because the filling was bob on and the little broken overlap of pastry was nice, if a tad salty, just have to remember not to salt my meal. Yes, it’s tomorrow, the start of week 5 for me! I can’t grumble at all even if I’m no lighter by tomorrow, 25 lbs and hubby 17 lbs, that’s exactly 3 stone between us in four weeks. I’m looking forward to the next four weeks so much, but I do need to be better organised. This week has shown me just how much, just having people around was a nightmare, I was a horrible host because I didn’t have things in. I’m shopping every couple of days as opposed to doing a big shop so things don’t go off.

Hmm, we may need to trawl through the previous 524 posts (524??????) to see if the PMT fairy is also stalking you, Lucky. I am feeling less homicidal today but am not relishing a weekend full of fighting kids. I have already informed respective fathers of the far flung family unit that they need to be taking them away from me for a large part of tomorrow. We will see how that goes down..

Well done on the clothes trial! They’re definitely getting closer to fitting! This time next month you’ll deffo be in the black trousers 😉

Jam in a bread maker is a revelation. You should put all the basics in and go away for an hour while it does its stuff! I like a firm jam (ooh er) so I add more pectin, so I need to get to it before it cools down too much or you can’t get the stuff into jars! Mind you, approach it too soon and its like fruit napalm…

BBQ tomorrow with friends. I shall avoid bread, although I may take Timmy’s idea of making a few of our Lucky wraps for my sausages. Wine will flow but I shall endeavour to drink far less than historically has been the case! Wondering if I can make a dessert rather than letting my mate bring sugar laden garbage with her..

I don’t think I worded it right 😀😀

How do I get the right balance of fat with my calories so I stay full between meals?

So used to using pasta/rice and no fat

i await pie report later just think how bouncy you will feel after tomorrows weigh in ( it is tomorrow isn’t it ?)

Hahaha a bullet thingy, like you can do smoothies and grind nuts in them and things.

Jam in a breadmaker???? Que?

Well, I tried on never before fit into jeans, which I’ve ascertained say size 20 but they are no way size 20, they are an 18. I could pull them up. Still a long, long way off, but they are there, ready for me. I tried on size 22 trousers, cropped ones, and they fit. You’d think this wouldn’t be exciting particularly, size 22 and all that, but they are non elasticated, no stretch at all. I fit into a size 20 pair of black trousers, but I had muffin overhang, so I need to lose another few pounds before I get into them. That’s as far as I got this morning before I had to leave. Butterfly dress on tomorrow and take another picture of me in it. See how/if anything changed in a fortnight.

Good call on the mint wraps with the lamb.

It is quiet. My inlaws have just left and I’m feeling very tired and very meh today. Not my usual bouncy self at all. Not ready for the weekend at all. But I’m ready for my pie 🙂

Hi Christine,
No havnt tried the farge yogurt. Havent seen it on shelves here. I did google it and found this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/greek-yogurt-lawsuit_n_5521670.html?section=australia
So that maybe why .lol
I use olive oil in cooking but do love a dolop of butter on a plate of vegies without potatoes though.
I buy a bit of diet tonic water no calories & i can pretend im having a gin n tonic .
Let me know how you progress .
Mike

get us being all assertive when eating out !!!
i too have a food processor afraid mines still as new as when i bought it a year ago and sits at the bottom of a cupboard !!!!
i think luckys having her cinderella moment !!
the lamb mince was lovely so i think without the faff and a side salad and wraps we could be on to a winner !!

Hi LindaA
Isn’t it great to have this forum, and haven’t you done well, you have also inspired me, everyone seems to loose if they are sticking to the plan between 16-20 kilos, I have or had 104 lbs to give away to the fat pixies. So I’m in it for the long haul. How have you found doing the bsd 800 beyond the eight weeks.
Regards
Jan

I look forward to reports on faff-free lamb!

I suspect the food processor may ultimately gather dust but at half price I’ll give it a go. I DO own a breadmaker and used it for ALL bread for 2+ years.. can you now see why my weight crept up! Loaves were too delicious to leave.. and you could make chocolate bread in it! Now I break it out once a year to make jam (most of which goes wrong or goes mouldy in the cupboard).

Isn’t a soup maker just a pot??? and a bullet???? Ummm… that’s something else in my book!!!! 😉 The list of pointless kitchen gadgets is probably as long as the list of ingredients we will never use. Soup maker = preserved lemons!

Lucky – have you started trying smaller clothes on yet? Come on, we need to know!

Pub lunch went ok – I had steak with salad. They initially brought it out with chips and peas but I pointed out I had ordered the ‘light option’ so they took it back to the kitchen and scraped it off onto a plate of frozen lettuce!!

my god thats another book
” photos of forgotten kitchen appliances”
to go with
” useless foods that time forgot in a cupboard”!!

the vision of exploding swede reminds me of the gremlins film !!
be interested on the bread front although me and the hubby said last night not really missing it !!
afraid i agree with lucky on the old facebook i just got so fed up of people and it was easier to not use it !! cant say i miss it really and am drained after my twitter trauma !! but now at least i know theres no escaping ladies you cannot hide ha ha ha ha ( evil laugh!)
everyones qeuiet today ?? is it that friday afternoon feeling ?
i bet lucky is having her cinderella moment !!! i have made the wrap batter for tea added dried mint to it as having lamb with spices( did you see what i did there lamb and mint ?! god I am so witty!!) its the lamb recipe from last weeks epic faffing persian lamb and aubergine but i have took all the faffing out of it !!!!!

Yes, you can microwave a whole swede, a handy hint I picked up from a Facebook page. Keep an eye on it and it starts ‘singing’ when it’s ready. Not like, arias or anything, more like a squeaky high pitched hissy whine.

I’ve got two food processors, an old one that the jug is broken and you have to use a knife to switch the latch thing on. It’s a disgrace. And it gets used often. And another one that’s nice, new, clean, in working order, and I just look at it.

I have coveted a breadmaker for years… pfffffffft. Should have run with that one when I had the chance. And a soupmaker. Don’t know why. Just… haven’t got one. To add to my cupboard of useless kitchen appliances I’ve used once and never again. Piemaker. Airfryer. Bullet thingy.

Hi mikeC,
You definitely won’t need butter for bread, however you can use butter for cooking!
Sounds like you have got the diet up and running especially good that you are both doing it, wish I could say that about my family!
I also fast a couple of days, although mine is slightly different, I only have a tea first thing then a small lunch and evening meal with water, then at supper I have another hot drink before bed.
Have you tried the FARGE yogurt it’s lovely and creamy and lower in carbs than other yogurts?
Christine

I am still addicted to Facebook…. I hate it but can’t leave 🙁 Well, I can, but I’m frightened of missing out on something! Nonetheless it drives em to distraction some evenings when we are all sitting there on the sofa, engrossed in our smart phones…

You can microwave a WHOLE swede in a microwave???? Is that safe?? I have visions of exploding root vegetables blowing the doors off the oven!! 😮

My bread tin is supposed to be delivered today.. so maybe ‘bread’ making is in the offing this weekend. I also.. wait for it… ordered a food processor!! I’m fed up of picking gloop out of mixers with my fingers and it was an Ebay bargain.. turns up on Monday!

hi there,

So I am 3 weeks on Monday in, I have kept active and this week have stepped up running as I am due to run a 10K on Sunday, I have run a 5 and 7K this week without increasing calories, in fact most day my fitness pal warns me I am not having enough as I do cycle and walk also. I feel I might need extra fuel for Sunday or not, its hard to judge. When I am running I can tell that my energy is lower which I equate to no carbs, but I am just back running after an injury..

Any advice greatly received.

Doushie, wrote a reply to you and then lost it before submitting – arggh! The Mosley 8-week Blood Sugar diet book got grumbles from lots of reviewers at first for the recipes. Dr Mosley did not write those. See the Amazon reviews. I borrowed one from my library and noted recipes I liked. Title= ‘Low Carb Revolution: comfort eating for good health’ author = “Annie Bell’ . I wouldn’t buy another book as there would be too many I wouldn’t use. I now keep ideas/links/articles as I find them in a ‘folder’ on my desktop or to read offline. I learned the hard way after buying ingredients and not then able to find the recipe again online! Gradually growing my collection. It does take time. Some websites for “Mediterranean” meals, and blogs on food could be a good find. This lady seems popular http://www.lavenderandlovage.com
Check others’ posts on here for clues. One I found is http://oldwayspt.org/recipes/search?keys=&diet%5B%5D=96&items_per_page=12
Eventually I anticipate being able to see a recipe and know how to adapt as my knowledge increases and ‘beds in’.
It IS a big change and even though I am retired and have time there is also an emotional element and I have not found it straightforward. I think you will find as you read more of our posts that we all do have to keep on re-starting after a bad day/week of slip-ups.
Lots of us here to moan at and get inspiration from :-0 plough on….
better press ‘submit’ before I lose this lot!

It’s a trade off, you cut out the carbs and replace the lost calories with fats.
There is no way to increase fat without increasing calories so you have to lose some from somewhere.

Hey pennyrua – welcome to the fold! Let us know how things go and shout if you need support. Be gentle with yourself for the first couple of weeks, as getting used to the new regime can be tough for some, especially if you are used to consuming lots of carbs. Remember to use full fat and drink plenty and you’ll get there for sure.
Good luck!

Simple question but difficult when I don’t want to increase calories. Please help

Em x

As long as you watch the carbs, you should be okay. I haven’t seen the 5:2 recipes, but would imagine they are low carb too. Good luck.

Hi doushie
There are lots of Low carb cook books on Amazon and if you are using the recipes from the BSD book, perhaps you can substitute things you do like, for those you don’t – chicken instead of salmon for instance. I understand you wanting to conserve time and not cook two meals, so maybe the approach most suitable for you, would be to choose meals you would usually produce, but without the carbs – grilled chop, veggies and no rice, potatoes etc. Keep and eye on root veg and tend towards above ground veggies.
Just a suggestion, hope it helps.

Green janet thank you for your reply x I had a bad start with the diet and from today have rebooted my diet . This week I have written recipes and advice notes from this forum in a file to have some info to hand . It is hard as a vegetarian in this diet as all the healthy meals I used to have are high carb . I have been a veggie for so many years so could not go back now though x I started becoming dizzy last week and my arms and legs ached . Doctor said it was low iron so addressing that this werk . Starting again so hope for more luck x

Thanks timmy! I’m re reading the BSD book and the 5:2 is recommended as a follow up diet from the BSD because it’s 5 days of a regular calorie Mediterranean diet and 2 days of 500 calories. So I assume the recipes would be OK to use

Pastry was
1 1⁄2 cups besan flour
1 teaspoon salt
1⁄4 cup olive oil
1⁄2 cup cold water (up to 1/2 cup)

That’s the official measurement. From what I remember, I think the flour worked out just under 100g, maybe 90g. I personally found the little bit of pastry I tried was quite salty and yet I didn’t use a full teaspoon, so next time I’d use half a teaspoon of salt, you can always salt your food after, can’t you? I used 60 ml of olive oil, and I filled one of those 1/2 cup measures half way and that was ample water to bring it together. All in a food processor. I’m looking forward to it, and so is my husband, bless him. Think it’s the longest he’s been without pastry since he was weaned 53 years ago 😀

Facebook was getting beyond a joke for me. I hated it, but I was addicted to it, and people used to really get me down on it, some of the stuff people were sharing and spouting, so I put quitting Facebook on my ’40 before 40′ list and I came off it 4th November last year. Been back on for one night only, just to wish people I wasn’t in touch with any other way a Happy Christmas. Don’t miss it at all now. Hubby is always on it, but most of his family and friends are back in Wigan so I don’t mind so much.

Ooooh roast swede, never had that. My favourite cheat way of cooking swede is in a microwave, because I hate peeling the buggers. And it seems to taste nicer too, just scoop out all the flesh. I’ve seen roast cauli a lot lately on the internet and in recipe magazines, I might give that a try one day. Hungry now 🙁

Hello MoJoJoJobeans!

I am sat at home waiting for my book to arrive and feeling very anxious about the next 8 weeks and if I will be able to manage it as well as having to feed my 3 young kids and not pick at their food….this is my biggest challenge ever and right now could just eat a massive slice of Lemon Drizzle!. Glad to hear you are enjoying your 1st week on diet……wish me luck!!!
Rachael