Sadly yes I can believe it. I predict it will be getting on for another decade, before the government and the NHS catches up and accepts the science behind the BSD way of thinking. Yes, the proof is right there in front of them already, but it isn’t yet at a level that they can no longer keep denying the evidence, so meanwhile the vast majority of professionals and public, will go on using the worthless and defunct ethos of the past.

you are making a difference – that is the important bit

A lot depends on your starting weight – the less you have to lose the less you lose each week. Someone who is heavier needs more calories in every movement and resting so 800 cal input will mean a bigger gap between their needs and their food and it is the deficit that matters.

So if my body needs 3000 cal to move and be etc and I only give it 800 then it has to use up 2200 cal from stored fat etc

A smaller body that needs 2000 cal a day to move and be etc given 800 cal will only use 1200 cal from stored fat.

1 kg of weight loss in a week needs daily deficit of 1000 calories.

And that is all before the slight variation in metabolism, exercise, portion sizes and cheat moments….

Pints of water or pints pints??

I am filling 3 x 1 litre bottles of water each morning which I have to drink through the day.
As for alcohol – I have just wobbled with a glass of red wine (it is on the Mediterranean lifestyle… not much of an excuse but…)

Hi greenjanet, Lucky, Yowser49, Gymgirl51

Thanks for all your messages. All I can say is that I can from memory, recall every item that sat behind the glass display in Costa’s 🙂

I’m calling the experience a virtual taste – feels good, but totally harmless 🙂

Yowser49 – congrats on the trousers 🙂

greenjanet – a reduction is a reduction so well done! Going to check that app out now.

Timmy – amazing , well done 🙂

If I missed anyone, apologies. This thread moves faster that I can drink a glass of water 🙂

Unfortunately I am in hospital waiting for a heart bypass op. I started the Fast 800 in Jan losing 42lbs but have since carried on the bsd way losing so far in excess of 6 stone. But my diet is under threat from short sighted NHS dieticians. They make the meal plans for the whole hospital. The choices for meals are bizarre consisting of 80% carbs. Potatoes,rice,pasta and so much bread you could stock a bakery aisle in Tesco. I had to make my choice for meals for tomorrow,today, out of around 50 to 60 choices, the only thing that suited the bsd diet was an apple. Unbelievable. The breakfast choices are toast and jam(or marmalade) and cereals. All the ones with sugar. I asked for a yoghurt, and was given a muller one. So I asked if I could talk to a dietician and was refused,but the catering manager came to see me and and I explained about the BSD and he reassured me that I can mix and match items to get a decent menu. He does have access to the dieticians and mentioned what I said and got the reply that the BSD diet is a lifestyle choice. Can you believe that.

MOVE AWAY FROM THE NAAN!

I’m not sure why your chickpea wraps are so inconsistent though.. how long do you leave the mix before you cook it?

Cheese yes, but only 30 or 40 grams depending on which type, it is full of calories, as are nuts and avocados which have to be eaten in moderation. Sorry to be a party pooper.

My sentiments exactly about Madge. Her stuff up to and including Erotica was the best. Wasn’t much of a fan of Frozen/Music/Ray of Light era, she redeemed herself ever so slightly with Confessions on a Dancefloor.

Yes old woman, I’ll let you *smiles sweetly*

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo fighting talk…

Off to make chickpea wraps. Pray for me. Or I’m having a naan bread with it. I will. I will HAVE a naan bread with it.

Day 16 – I woke up early this morning so I got on the treadmill for 20 mins, it’s not much but I thought it was better than nothing. I stuck to my near 800 cals yesterday – 856 cals, which is good for me. I’m not having an issue with staying under my carb limit but I am having an issue for sticking to my 800 cals. My goal this week is to try to keep to this as much as possible.

TOM is starting this week and I’m not looking froward to it. Last time I was doing low carb and I got them, it was longer and more painful. I’m dreading it so much. I’m also dreading the cravings… I tried to weigh in yesterday but my water weight is already there. I’m hoping this means a really good loss for next week. 🙂

Napangardi I NEED to record everything or I don’t stay accountable. I have a Garmin that tells me my fitness and steps, and I use MyFitnessPal or a diary to record my food. Whenever I’ve done well on Low Carb, it’s been because I’ve been recording what I eat. I can also look back then too and see what foods may not be helping my weight loss and change things up to get the weight moving again. I am a total emotional eater. I would be A LOT smaller if I just had went and exercised instead of eating my feelings. During one of my most stressful times I weighed in at 297 – that was a wake up call that i needed to change something, but I just can’t seem to get to my goal. I’m really hoping this time is my successful time. 🙂

You’ll ‘let’ me win????? Let? Me???

I used to love Madonna back in the day, but she’s 150 years old now, and has done far too much yoga to be good for her. Move over and let Gaga et al in!!

Hi GG – it is Shove (long story and I won’t go into it). An Irish pronunciation thing!!

Lucky and Yowser – many thanks for the kind messages. Dead chuffed and does give me the motivation to keep going. You will both definitely get there.

Lucky – I love Madonna too but she has gone a bit odd the last few years… But 80s and 90s Madonna was the biz.

And I might let you win next time.

I’m back – Well done Gavin on resisting temptation! I have a confession, I have never, EVER been to one of these big coffee shops, Starbucks, Costa, Caffe Nero etc 🙂 Whenever I look at the prices I think ‘I can get a jar for that…’ LOL.

Well, Janey, I don’t know if this helps, but hubby has told me we’re getting freekeh tonight… 😉 heh. Heh heh. Heh. Fnarr.

I’ll have a look later then Jan, only thing is I am wearing harem pants a lot, but I’ll try. Slip it in my bra or something. And before you ask, yes, the iPad mini would fit in my bra if need be. Lol. I’ve just finished the chicken, MFP lost my recipe once, chicken is marinating, I have accurate nutritional info, photos have been taken, first blog post goes live tonight. Downside, there is no hope of bread being made tonight. What a bloody ordeal it was, scanning everything. TWICE!!

Irish girl – cool song! I was a huge Madonna fan in my youth (I say, like I’m 94). You must be my lucky staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar 🙂 And huge well done on the BMI change, I bet you feel on top of the world!!! I still have exactly 50lbs left to go before I get that honour, but I will do it.

Sorry if I’ve missed anyone or anything, don’t think there was anything else, was there…

… ah yes. Janey. Well done 😉 You’re a star too, and you weren’t that far behind me AND you work full time AND you don’t have a treadmill AND you’ve had crap weather. I think we should share the honours 😀 5000 steps is nothing, it’s 50 minutes walking.

Darn it, I think Lucky has won this week’s duel 🙁

Am waiting for her to get home and sync her steps but she’s at least 5000 ahead of me for the 7 days.

Well done…but it’s the first of many!! Victory will be mine! Muahahahahahahaha

2 pounds a week is great. Keep up the enthusiasm! I hate traveling anywhere because the urge to eat other things when out of town. Very frustrating for me going to these conventions or speaking engagements.

I’m interested to know how many pints people are consuming on this diet?

I am not restricted fat; restricting mucus stuffy nose syndrome from butter. Regular moo juice gives very little mucus.

Hi Irishgirl will look for you on my Fitbit what’s your username on it ?

Thanks GG (GymGirl) x!
IRISHGIRL yes our Lucky shd be writing books and sitcoms ..definitely a talented girl x
I think going from obese to overweight must be marvellous for self esteem..
And 30 lbs down is fab..imagine hauling six 5 lb bags of spuds with you everywhere you go? Must feel wonderful to have put all those spuds down! X👍🏻👍🏻

happy to do a duel but a bit scared about going up against Gymgirl51! Oh what the hell, lets go for it.

Lucky – you are a star. Feel a Madonna song coming on…Keep me amused all day at work and motivated. You should defo write a sitcom about the bsd.

Great day today. Went from obese to overweight (albeit still miles overweight). Still progress is progress and 30lbs down thus far.

I am finding it good actually.
I have lost 5 pounds since Sunday this week as so many diff things got in my way last week to be completely applying it to my life. I am drinking lots of water which is helping.
I do a low carb way of eating and am not really mfp addict yet lol as with so much to deal with in other stuff this is the best I can do.

I am away this next week and are planning foods for that.

Hoping to be able to not indulge where unnecceassary……..

Well done on the trouser front Yowzer👖👖
I’ m sat in a Costa now surrounded by screaming kids!!!! well done Gavin I succumbed to the yoghurt thingy they do for my late lunch 187 calories but sugars are a bit high still it could have been a chocolate muffin although I may buy one to use ear plugs .
Has anyone else got a Fitbit that would like to join a Lucky/ Janey style duel ?

Thanks LUCKY JAN JANEY X oh gosh Jan i didnt think of cuffed equalling tagged😱 I have fat ankles..i think I might have a touch of oedema if a touch is poss!
GAVIN well done on resisting..those Costa goodies are practically totally irresistible! X ps there was something you said elsewhere Gav that i related to..gahhhh..cant think what it was now,..goldfish brain! X

Gavin isn’t that the best feeling, you win the award for the day, of resisting temptation.👼👼👼 yeah

Lucky Re the phone, it works on any phone that uploads apps, and I’m not aware I am using Internet, as the pacer works offline, so to get that onto the group I will have to see if that happens offline as well. Well why don’t you start putting it in your pocket, then you can have j.b duels and pacer races. Wey hey multitasking, all while you are compiling the recipe thread, chatting to half a dozen people at once, not sure how you do that do you memorise it all or write it all down before you reply, but impressed I am, oh and looking after hubby and darlings, and looking after the house, clearing up the freezer gravel, and organising a holiday. Woo worn out now, of for hot water and a slice of lemon.🍋🍋🍋

Congrats on the trousers, Yowzers! It’s great to find previously forgotten items that now fit! I have a suit in the wardrobe that I’ve never managed to get into the trousers of, so may give that a try soon!

Just had Waitrose freekeh, chickpea and kale salad for lunch. Very yummy and legal. No idea what freekeh actually is tho?!

I had a shake thing for breakfast (yogurt, green tea, blueberries, flax seeds) . Had home made soup for lunch with a banana and a babybel.

Was taken to Costa’s by a client. Only had black coffee despite the temptation on offer 🙂

Yowser Bril re the trousers yep know that feeling, but cor blimey don’t tell us you are tagged hehe, around both ankles re the cuffs, but really our only crime is to dare to put two fingers up to the carb and low fat peeps, so good going, we are in it for the long haul so keep encouraging us with your posts.

Love jan

MOJOJOJOBEANS I love your name! And glad you asked that question,it was floating round the back of my mind too. But I ‘ m losing and so are you,so we must be doing something right! I think you’ll find yr tum will disappear..i found this on 5:2 and seems to be the case on BSD also! X

I’m back! We were flagging with three stores to go and decided to abandon the children with the eldest tomorrow to finish off!

We’ll have to have a weekend duel, Tokyo? Or do daily ones, you can do just 24 hour ones, let me know 🙂

It’s still a quarter of a pound off in old money, Jan, and it all goes towards the big total so far, doesn’t it? I know it’s disappointing but try and let it spur you on to this next week with a renewed determination.

Well done Timmy, you’re getting closer now!

Janey, I salute you. I am never able to do that, I always make a loss.

Hi Runforfun, you didn’t go over the top, which is good 🙂 And I’m sure the 17,000 steps helped counteract it a bit 😉

Does your phone have to be connected online for the app thing to work Jan, is it only iPhone? I’m only on a small data package so I only use the internet on my phone when I’m checking emails while out. Plus, I don’t carry my phone on my person ever, it’s either on the table or in my handbag so it probably would be redundant for me.

My feet haven’t stopped moving, I went up every aisle of every shop, even the aisles I didn’t need! Now I have to keep everything, tidy my kitchen before I start kebabbing! Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nom.

I understand that Yowzer, I’m a trouser girl (although did bite the bullet and buy a few Joe Brown’s dresses before my 40th) and I have pair upon pair from size 16 up to 20 waiting for me to fit in! I am in 20 jeans now, and they’re going baggy, but no two sizes are the same are they? Well done! That can be as much a boost as a number on a scale, if not more! That’s the BSD in action, not stats!

Right, offski. Laters 🙂

My day 1 was yesterday! I have been trying to follow the plan as I don’t have to count the calories. My biggest problem atm is feeling so hungry – hope that will only last a few days!. My downfall yesterday was I left it too late to start preparing dinner/supper, by which time I was tired, and too hungry to be bothered to spend time making a veg curry. Not an epic fail tho’ as I’ve being doing lo carb generally for a couple of weeks and had a veg curry in freezer that was amazingly about the same cals as the meal plan – just a bit higher on carbs as there was some rice in it. That and some cherries saw me through and deal on 800 cals, so actually very pleased.

This morning I went for a walk and was amazed how much energy I had – and so far its lasted through a morning on my feet, and prepping lunch – love the beetroot falafels.

I am still logging food and exercise as that was one of the challenges I set myself a few weeks ago.
Fitness Pal doesn’t like it if the calorie count is under 1000, so I’ve invented an additional meal of 300 cals so I can “complete” each day. I found most of the blood sugar diet meals in the recipes section, but was dissapointed that the actual ingredients or nutrition has not been logged for them.

*** Has anyone else tried the Headspace app for Mindfulness/Meditation ***

Having learnt from yesterday, I’ll be preparing dinner early even if I don’t eat it straightaway.

Onwards and downwards!

Joy of joys! Can now get into three pairs of many and varied trouser wardrobe.( some never even out of their bags)
Til recently,only one pair fitted,and another pair fastened with a struggle then promptly burst open as soon as i moved.
Only someone who lives in trousers will know how good it feels to have three pairs that are comfortable and hang properly! ( i never reveal the legs LUCKY,like you said). Wore lovely dress and jacket to DDs wedding but dress was sooo long ( to hide chubby cuffed ankles) i looked like i was gliding along on castors! And i was walking her down the aisle! 😁 A wonderful day but spoilt a little by my own inability to keep to pre wedding diet..the stress of it all made me eat MORE..if only i had known of BSD then! X

Hi gretchen,

Thanks for sharing your side of the story. You definitely need to cut yourself some slack and try not to be so hard on yourself. Also really sorry to hear about your dog and hope he\she is okay!

I think with any diet though, this is meant to be your lifestyle, obviously with any diet if you start going back to your old ways and bad habits then the weight will pile back on. It’s took me a while to learn that it has to be a way of life not just the next 8 weeks, which is why yes I’m disheartened that I haven’t lost any weight but I’m going to stick at it because it’s healthy and it’s what I want to do rather than eat junk and feel sluggish.
Hopefully you will find your motivation too and keep going!
X

Hi no,no, everyone on here is lovely. I think it does work for most people but i can find no one out of a team of 200 who’ve stuck to it. So in that way I think it’s like any other diet rather than a revolution

Aww thank you to you both. It has made me feel better. I guess I just really worry that I wont lose my belly. I am like a telly tubby, all my weight is carried around my middle and it’s so unhealthy and awful and so just needs gone! So I just wanted to make sure I am doing all that I can.

Have a lovely day and thanks again!

Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere on the forum, I did try searching for it!

I’ve been on BSD for two weeks now with promising early results from weight loss to increased energy. However, I am concerned that since starting the diet, my skin has broken out with tiny pimples on my face and torso. Pimples are rare for me, even when I was eating a lot of junk so I’m curious as to why this is happening.

Has this happened to anyone else? Did it pass?

Cheers, AH.

Huge congrats timmy you will be our own david gandy ( see prada or D and G add)!!
and not sure anyone would want a jawbone inside them i work in theatres !! but at least if they did they could have miles monitored!!!!
i am taking bets on the winner in the janey and lucky stakes turning into a real BSD john mccririck !!!!
maybe i shall guve them both pep talks !!! move your blinking feets !!!!!

I’m sorry things haven’t worked for you, Gretchen, you must be really fed up.

However I totally disagree that this forum is judgemental or critical – it’s really supportive and encouraging and many people say so.

It’s true your own conversation (that terrible inside voice) keeps telling yourself stuff – mine certainly does – but even if this doesn’t seem to work for you (and it is strange that reducing your calories and restricting carbs hasn’t had more effect) it has worked for many people, either slowly or quickly. I was slow at the start (got discouraged) but it eventually worked.

So the results for me demonstrate it’s not a fad, and the research also does. But no-one can predict individual results with very different bodily responses.

I am horrified to think anything said here would make you feel worse. All everyone wants is to see everyone succeed no matter how slow or difficult it might be.

Have you had a chance to look at more threads? There may be something which would help. Should you set your sights lower and give it more time? May be what your body needs specifically

If so, loads of people here to help. If not, best wishes to you for everything you do in the future.

Right everyone I have created a group on the pacer app which you can download free from the App Store if you have a phone that can do that. The group I have created is called BSD peeps international and has the BSD 800 book as the profile page, I am the only member on there obviously at the mo, but I am looking for exercise buddies, to jolly us along to our targets, anyone interested!
Love jan

Hi Wendy, you posted over week ago so things may have changed by now but here are a couple of suggestions
– he may be ‘fat on the inside like MM who was at a normal weight when he did this to reverse his pre diabetes
– more exercise would help with blood sugar levels
– maybe you need to look at portion sizes, more low gi foods, less protein (too much protein sends my bs levels up)
Maybe there is something else going on – there are some forms of diabetes mentioned in the book in addition to Type 1, which don’t respond to this because they have a different cause.
I’m not an expert, but hope this helps.
And well done to him for losing 1.5 stone over 8 weeks.

Hello!

Welcome everyone new!

I’m still here and have been trying to keep up with the thread! It’s quite hard when I’m so busy at work!

Work helps with the eating at its given me a better routine and I can’t snack at the office but it also doesn’t help. Last night we had a team social which involved pizza and cake.. I ate a little of both but part of this for me is to be in control of my eating and not binge on things like that, which I didn’t! 🙂 I shouldn’t of had it but I did do a workout, played a rounders match and did 17,000 steps!

greenjanet….yes the synchronised swimming is even funnier!!
Lucia….. liked the image of you munching the grass in front of the first jump…and putting on the tights…..well!!???
Very nearly regretted the impulse of posting that…especially as I was only expecting a URL link…. oh.well… what the heck?

Sadly can’t think of any jokes atm…you have to tell them right!!
Perhaps a re-creation of some Championsheep moments?

Still hovering around the plateau…..far too comfy here….what with Summer BBQ’s and extra glasses of wine!!!!
I WILL escape….sometime.
Good luck everyone.

By this week, week 4 I had managed to shift a pound. Taking my total loss to 3lbs. In the past I’ve lost this just by cutting out a cappuccino.

Last week after reducing carbs to 25g and swimming every day as well as keeping very low on the calories (I managed 800 every day bar one where I went to 1000.) by the Friday I had lost absolutely nothing and my waist measurement had actually increased by 1/2 inch.

This week has been stressful due to my dog being in for an op and I thought what’s the point. I’ve given up for now. I agree that rapid weight loss does keep,you motivated but I have found not losing weight whilst everyone around me was to have the reverse effect and have found the constant super critical, blame thing even more stressful. The constant questioning of myself and blaming myself for not losing weight on something everyone says you should be has made it worse than other diets I think.

I mentioned this to the girls at work. They did all lose lots of weight on the programme but non have stuck to it so I suppose it’s like any other diet fad.

Those speedos will be looking fine Timmy! How long till your hols?

I have sold my yoghurt maker and sachets.. for a profit! Just call me Del Boy 🙂

Morning campers. Went for a swim last night. First mile of front crawl without stopping in over 12 months. Well chuffed.

Down to 89.2kg this morning too. Woohoo!

Cor Tokyo your work sounds a bit strict,

Morning all how it going,

Official weigh day for me, only a disappointing .1 of a kg oh wow is me, but I’ve slipped twice this week, and have also really upped my exercise, gardening a little running, strength, and today spring cleaning the house, major big time, thank goodness I have lost nearly two stone it makes it so much easier to do as I have the energy, and I can squeeze into smaller spaces. Going to get seriously focused this week I am aiming for four pounds loss. I have four more weigh days until a big family wedding in Norfolk, and I want to be the slimmest sister.

Re the duel as this wonderful forum is always so non judgemental, I think in the mood of equanimity to all we should aim for lucky and janey to be mutual duel buddies, and most definitely both winners.

I’m still not sure whether I want one of those jawbone bands on my arm, it will spoil my couturier image hehe, but I use the pacer app, so I am thinking of starting a BSD group on there if anyone is interested, then you can pace your steps, cals etc on there, if anyone is up for it.

Wishing you all a positive and productive BSD day. 👋👋👋

Hi k.rae

Difficult though it is, you mustn’t panic! Things often seem to start slow (how irritating to see others lose pounds and pounds, much as you wish them well) but they do accelerate.

What I did – and you can follow if you like, see what suits you –

I had 20 odd pounds to lose (10 stone 8 lbs to target 9 stone), not Type 2 and knew it would be difficult – had been trying to do this for some time.

I got on to My Fitness Pal, but also checked out this site
http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com

which gave me my resting metabolic rate (not many calories to maintain weight, eek!)
and then entered in a low carb target (I selected 20g of carbs – many here do less than 50), selected their recommended protein and it gave me the fat percentages. I then entered these on MFP and started from there.

I’ve been choosy about what to spend my carbs/calories on (I like fruit but I prefer other things), have tried to drink more than is reasonable, and measured, measured, measured.

I achieved my 9 stone target, and now 12 weeks in I am just going for 8 stone 10 lbs to give myself wiggle room as I’ve increased my calories to 1000 per day, but sticking to 20g of carbs for the present. 16% of my body weight lost, all my 5 year old clothes fit, am totally transformed and still can’t believe it. It has seemed to happen very quickly, but of course was very slow whilst I was living through it. Often catch sight of myself in new mirror and am amazed all over again.

Everyone’s body is different, and therefore the results will be too – but if you are doing what you say you are, and you are rigorous about the carbs and drinking water then IT WILL HAPPEN. Try the measurements as an indicator. I was looking slimmer and clothes were looser ahead of the weight showing significant decreases, because the visceral fat goes (especially for me round the waist) and changes your shape completely

Good luck! 🙂

How far are you into the diet?
How are you finding it all?
I’ve just completed my first week and sadly not much movement on the scales 🙁