makes MacDonalds thickshakes sound about as appealing as pringles, for anyone that’s been here long enough to recall that thread

Yowzer – have never quite ‘got’ dry shampoo – If my hair’s a mess I’m more likely to wet it to sort it out – even living in polluted London ‘i don’t bother to wash it daily. How did it work as a deodorant?
Sunshine’s post was good, wasn’t it? Makes you feel quite positive on those days/nights when you feel the need to go to the loo every half an hour!

Robion
I frequently get phases like this – lose a bit but a kilo back on, lose that and a bit more, stay static – occasionally I can put it down to going over on cals or carbs, but I can equally have a ‘going over’ day and lose a lot, or a ‘compliant’ day and go up.
Are you weighing daily or weekly? whichever it is, I wouldn’t start panicking yet.

I don’t measure my blood at home, only HBa1c occasionally, so can’t comment in fluctuations in that or otherwise

JANEY Oh gosh no..Roy Chubby Brown….
Feelin ill now thinkin about Maccies shakes! X effective!

OMG, I just had to stifle hysterical giggling at that post Yowzer… the office is dead quiet so it was a challenge!!

JANEY Well done on the kms! x

Hi all, don’t despair, a LOT of people report a plateau after the first couple of weeks. It will kickstart again, promise! If your waist size is decreasing (and I bet it is) then you are on the right track.

And remember, you’re not doing a ‘quick fix’, you’re in it for the longhaul and to feel healthier, not just slimmer!

Hehe! Even more confoozed than i thought!
Email fr DD: Mum,just borrowed the dry shampoo you left in bathroom
Me: dry shampoo? I didnt know i had any!
DD?.erm Mum..Have you been using the spray dry shampoo as a deodorant?!
Me: mm…possssssibly….yeeees…..🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

You’re all still talking about comedians.. as long as no-one starts claiming to like Roy Chubby Brown, I don’t mind!!!!

By the way, everyone knows that all the fat we lose gets collected by McDonalds and put into their thick shakes….. Think of that next time you fancy one!!

Ladies, I am paying the price of giving in to a jam doughnut..feeling quite yucky currently! Think it’s safe to say I won’t be rushing to have another one! I will stick to Bake Off for my case fix in future!

Had to laugh (in between wanting to slap him) when one of my colleagues suddenly said to me today, ‘oh, you’ve lost quite a bit of weight, haven’t you?’. Obviously he has had his eyes shut for 3+ months and not heard ANY of my conversations about the BSD!!

Tried to log the first couple of KM on MyMarathon but the website isn’t playing ball at the moment 🙁

If all you’ve done is increased the calorie count by 100, and kept the carbs relatively low, I’d say that this was just a blip.

Could be to do with state of your body in terms of water, or poo (sorry), or a number of other things. Have you also been exercising and therefore building muscle?

Whatever, I shouldn’t panic, but keep on keeping on and see what happens over the next few days/week.

Our bodies are very mysterious.

Hi folks, I have a different problem. I lost approx 20kg on this diet and knocked off some diabetes tablets, a blood pressure tablet and statins. I kept up the programme for quite a number of weeks after the 8 weeks. At the moment in one week, keeping to 60g carbs and approx 900 calories I have put 1 kg on!! My fasting blood sugars have also raised. It’s as if, whilst everyone else is remaining static, I am actually gaining.
Any ideas?

Alli W, this will be a test but you can do it! This is how you grow stronger! Keeping fingers crossed for you!

LUCKY Sorry i got confooozed…and answered yr question over on the HELLO thread! That happens very easily to me! 😬😬😬😬😬 xx

My Dr is … lukewarm, but I’m going to do the 800. How do I navigate coming off my meds? Anyone out there been through the process?
I currently take:
Four 500mg Metformin
Two 80 mg Gliclazide
One Simvastin 10mg
One Januvia 100mg
One Candesartan 4mg

Well done ANTIGONE and LUCKY on the days avoidings!
Oh ANT so glad another Count Arthur fan!
LUCKY?.my DD has just asked me same question.. She started PT job last week after being ill so long,bad timing as she had both a wedding and a funeral to go to,but that was the starting date…plus her very loud MIL decided to land ..came up from Tunny Wells ! Inconsiderate woman that she is…coudlnt have waited til DD got settled into job..so for those reasons i havent been up to get weighed..as long as i do so by next Wednesday i’ m happy!
Hope yr house hasnt been wrecked by 4 yr old whirlwind! X

Sean Hughes is he the cute looking Irish one that used to be on one of those panel quiz things, was it Buzzcocks? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Oh Jack Dee, I used to have the biggest crush on him years ago!

Wine used to get me regular too haha, but I am trying to avoid it at the moment. Well done on the cake avoiding! I’ve avoided sausage rolls AND Kfc this morning! Yay me!

Pinch punch Yowzer 😉

When will you get to weigh next, do you know? You’ve done brilliantly. If you can do another 8 weeks, good on you, but remember to keep checking in with yourself 🙂

Back from the DARK SIDE!
Sorry to hear about your dog AVila – have you had him/her long?
Eddie Izzard, Jack Dee, Jeremy Hardy and Count Arthur Strong are funny. Liked Sean Hughes on the TV but saw him live and he was AWFUL.
Lucky – have to say chocolate and/or wine gets me regular….not much help currently 🙁
I went to a coffee morning today – more cake than you could shake a stick at and I did not eat a crumb 🙂

Oh thank you SUNSHINE!
Just read yr explanation..makes me so happy..i get fed up going to the loo so often but now i’ll be glad to do so! X

Frog, thanks for the link! Will check it out.

Alli, I understand. I’ve been a bit stressed out about a birthday party tonight and a Sunday dinner with family this weekend.

54, your weight loss is inspiring. I think I will incorporate some of the book’s recipe in my next shopping trip.

Julie, kudos for finding an alternative activity to eating. It really is a lifestyle change and sounds like you are doing great.

Igor, that brings me back to NICE’s reaction to the phcuk research when NICE said they couldn’t recommend this diet because it would be too hard to have to teach everyone about it. Some doctors are fine, mine is lovely but some can cut you down with a disapproving look.

Two other experiences of medical staff responses. My brother is a nurse who retired about a year ago, he was staying with my daughter and could hear us discussing our diets, she does paleo which is v. low carb too. Regarding my calories I could hear him tut tutting in the background but he never said a word. When they came out to visit last month I fed them both with my diet and asked if they wanted extras like chips, rice, pots etc. Both said no they would see what it was like. Both lost around 4 lbs in the 5 days they were here and my brother is going to buy the book. Daughter is okay on paleo and has lost 33lbs since April.

Daughter coming back over last week to collect the grandchildren sat next to a diabetic specialist nurse from a Birmingham hospital, she told her about my diet and the nurse said she was carrying out trials in her patient groups.

We will reign supreme one day.

I posted in Tazzies thread Anyone Else having problems with Excessive Bathroom Visits – or something like that

Yowzer, fat comes out in your pee and poo, or my comments that it floats around in the air and usually lands on my rear end

Thanks, Frog.

She wasn’t as bad as all that, and as OH said to me, it’s more that I’m annoyed with myself for thinking of the things to say far too late.

I will stick with her, and be better informed when I see her next. I have, as you suggest, enrolled on the system to see my records, and I will therefore know what the results of the blood test in mid October are before meeting with her again.

To be fair, she was impressed that I said I was feeling wonderful, particularly in terms of waking in the morning all alive-o, ready for the day, and said that perhaps she should think about trying what I was doing. So long as alcohol was allowed on it.

😉

Just swinging by to say White Rabbits 🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰 for the first September..i love autumn and glad to be going into it …v pleased that i enter a new season a lot lighter than i entered summer!
Will be post eight weeks on 7 Sept,will prob redo the eight weeks,except maybe when i go out to celebrate birthdays etc..when i will be a bit more relaxed foodwise!
Very pleased with self that i havent deviated once in the 8 weeks and most days have been below and never above 800 cals/ 50 carbs..
Haven’t been weighed for a week,last weigh in was 28 lbs,hoping i might hit thirty or more ! Keep yr fingers crossed for me! X

I could use a cafe latte now myself! Well, I have to say that the selected fruit (Melon and Banana) have heavy sugar but not enough fiber in it. The others are good to eat she suggested. I also add plums. High fiber fruit is definitely necessary. But, what the hell do I know?

Day 43
Wedensday 31 August 2016

Breakfast: None

Lunch: 11:30
1 Cup Greek yogurt with Blueberries

Snacks:
2 Velveeta
1 apple
1 peach
1 pear
Handful sunflower seeds

Dinner: 715
Hummus platter salad

Well, it was a wild night tonight. I stayed until midnight watching Raphael Nadal win the game. It was a historic game also:
The first ever tennis games I have been to in Melbourne, Paris, London, or NYC and they closed the stadium and still did the game.

NO DELAYS! It was amazing! But this amazing did cost a cool $ 100 Million!!!!

Nadal is Spain’s great tennis star. But, not great enough to hit a ball outside the stadium when closing the roof!

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=17437795

Now I have to think of something healthy to eat tomorrow in Queens! Who in their right mind goes to a tennis match with a can of tuna or sardines in their pocket?????

Turning down wine is so hard, especially with the weekend almost upon us! I plan long/tall gin and slimeline tonic instead. I think there’s a lot less in that.

Hehe! I love how conversations on these threads swings from one topic to another and back again FROG!
Hilarious about that taxi driver😁😁😁! We are just captive audiences when it comes to cab drivers arent we!

I must try and find that and read Sunshines comment on how where fat goes..i just read this on the fast day forum,from a friend responding to me saying tho i had lost a lot of weight it was ” old fat” ive lost and regained so many times!…
“I know what you mean about ‘old fat’- it feels as though I have been gaining and losing the same 6kg for the last 30 years!! Where does it hide I wonder! I just imagine it sat in the top of the wardrobe, sneaking in and out when I’m not looking!”

When people on here are talking about losing large amounts of weight – which hallelujah! We all seem to be doing..i always get mental image of family friends and neighbours slipping and sliding on the lost pounds of fat! 😃 X
Ive GOT to find that post! I really want to know where DOES it go? X

Yowzer – it was a thread about excessive peeing which then drifted into constipation
– worth looking at because Sunshine girl made a brilliant post about where/how the fat we loose actually goes.
It reminded me however, of a weird taxi journey where the cab driver talked exclusively about squatting to poo rather than sitting on the toilet.

Janey – I knew it was a marathon and British heart foundation – I just hadn’t appreciated that is was quite as challenging as over a month – that’s almost a mile (2,000 steps) a day!
I’ve just calculated it – assuming a stride length of 80cm, 1,758 steps a day 🙂
Great cause – have fun!

too busy doing pointless calculations Lucky!

I read the Newcastle research results after receiving a Type 2 diagnosis (7.3 mmol/L) and decided to give the Blood Sugar Diet a try. Blood sugar had gone from pre-Diabetic to Diabetic over a 16 month period and I turned 50 last week. Did the diet for 7 weeks, plus a three weeks of transitioning to normal eating again. I lost 17.5 kg, or more 18% of my body weight. BMI went from 30.2 (Obese) to 24.6 (Healthy). Lost 5 inches around my waist (nothing fits in my wardrobe anymore). Blood sugar reading dropped to 5.5 (top end of normal). In all honesty if I’d know three years ago that a diet like this would work so effectively and be so easy to do (I didn’t really feel all that hungry after the first 4-5 days) I’d have started it back then. My results were better than the Newcastle patients and six weeks after finishing my transition to normal eating my weight remains stable. This diet really works!

welcome Wendy
I must stop skim reading things to catch up – I read your post as 5 ft and 2 stone 13lbs 🙂

Day 191 weight 9st 6lbs
Blood Sugar 8.7

Day 192 weight 9st 5lbs
Blood Sugar 7.4

Started knitting again today – I see it as a form of exercise for my arms.

Day 193 weight 9st 5lbs
Blood Sugar 8.7

Day 194 (Today) weight 9st 4lbs (-26lbs again 🙂 )
Blood Sugar 6.9 🙂 🙂

Mum – waiting to be discharged. They still don’t know what caused the heart fibrillation, but have tweaked her meds.
Auntie – Antibiotics changed Sunday, seems to be picking up a little bit, they are trying to sit her up today and then trying again to assess whether she will be able to eat and drink. Has been Nil by mouth since she went into hospital.
Me – still as crazy as ever, but pleased with today’s blood results.

Thank you everyone for reminding me of my successes abd your wonderful encouragement. I am on a right downer on myself – I just cant believe I allowed myself to get to over 300lbs – I do beat myself up a lot; it is hard to think of oneself as anything but a greedy person – I was heading for one of those My 600lb life programmes and it has been terrifying. I was a normal sized child until I was about 7-8 and then steadily grew bigger and bigger of the ensuing 50 years. I did lose about 5stone back in my 30’s but then bad health and some traumatic experiences sent me spiralling. I have to keep my head in the right place.

Thank you thank you thank you for being here everyone!
XXXXX

wow – and I get hacked of with my GP – she sounds dire Igor!
And I know some people on here have had superfast losses, but I would expect a GP to be slightly surprised at someone losing nearly 2 stone in a month; I’m not saying it’s unhealthy – but unusual.
any alternative practices that you could register with, or request a change of GP within the practice?

Alternatively, if the practice has a patient advisory group, join that & be a thorn in their side!

After my appointment with the diabetic/community nurse a couple of weeks ago, she didn’t say so, but was clearly a bit peeved that I had stopped taking metformin, and asked me to get a new HBa1c test done & see her again in two weeks.
Had the test, and levels now within the normal range at 3.8. The appointment should have been today – I had a call yesterday, saying that the appointment had been made with the wrong person (sounds odd – I came out of the appointment and made the booking at reception, saying that I needed a follow up appointment with the person I had just seen), and rebooked for next week.
I checked my patient record online last night – no sign of the appointment next week! If they’ve seen all the normal results and don’t need to say so, why not just call and say that?

I would wholeheartedly recommend to anyone to get online access to your medical records – that way you know before you see the GP/nurse whatever what the results are, and can do any research, or think in advance about what questions you have.
Also, not exclusively, but when I google things medical, I usually put NHS at the front of my search, then you get their view on a topic before you read more widely.

May not be in season now; don’t know if you can but it frozen, but Rhubarb is excellent – 5g of carbs per 100g
not for a fruitbowl, obviously, but great with yogurt, porridge, cottage cheese – and if not overly sweetened, great as a vegetable with fish or lamb.
I cook it with about 1 teaspoon of stevia per kilo of rhubarb -one recent was a bit tart, so I added a touch more after it was cooked.

Just googled and can’t find any frozen rhubarb , but several supermarkets still listing it – need to go to a big supermarket before the season is over!

Having been very successful on the BSD, losing more than 15% of my starting body weight though not type 2, I thought I would go and have a general blood test at my GP as the last one was about 2 years ago (all well then, but thought should just have a check).

Requested this at reception and was given an appointment with nurse, who said ‘I can only give you a cholesterol test, we don’t do blood tests unless the cholesterol results aren’t right’. First slightly odd thing, but didn’t argue.

Just been back to get my results – never met doctor before, she was puzzled why I was there.

I explained what I had been doing. She made the usual wincing face as she said she’d never heard of BSD within all the diets there were. So I explained further, quoted the Newcastle and other research, the effect on OH’s blood sugar results, and said that it was therefore worthwhile her investigating. At which point she told me firmly that ‘whilst I might recommend it to patients, I simply don’t have the time to investigate these things…’

Why oh why did I not follow up swiftly with “so you recommend things you don’t know anything about? Would it not be useful to have a potential Type 2 treatment recommendation since as I’ve told you my OH is now off metformin?” But I didn’t.

And then she told me that my ‘bad’ cholesterol levels were very high at 9.7 and my ‘good’ cholesterol levels were also high (at 1.8 nearly twice the best level, which is a good result). So my ratio is 5.4. Which is ok and normal. But she seemed confused and mentioned statins.

I told her I had lost more than 25 lbs, and said that I had done this very swiftly. How long? She asked. Since May, I replied, and she replied ‘oh, over a long period then, not just a month’ !!!!! Seeing my starting weight was 10 stone 8 lbs, I would have thought that this size of loss would have been surprising. Why didn’t I mention it was 15% of starting body weight lost in just over 8 weeks???

But, given all that, all well, really – I have a proper blood test with fasting BS (yes I know the potential problems with that) and further cholesterol in mid October, with a follow-up discussion with her.

But I am usually very proud to be taken seriously by GPs and to have rational conversations with them. This one was unsatisfactory – should have had a BS test with the overall bloods, not just cholesterol; she should’ve been interested in potential Type 2 treatment; and it was a good idea she didn’t ask me what I thought about her threat of statins as the air would’ve turned blue.

Still, I suppose she acknowledged I was eating healthily……

I have subsequently researched high ‘bad’ cholesterol on LCHF diets, and see that there can be spikes. Wish I’d looked that up first.

wow – that’s amazing Linda – many congratulations!

Thanks Verano, I have found it now. Nice site, if I hadn’t already found MM I would consider using this. I will browse anyway as I always hope to learn something new. Some of the recipes look good or can be easily adapted.

Just browsing through Ian Marber’s book, I did quite well on this diet (before that awful nutritionist put me on 300 g carb diet) and have just found my absolute favourite snack Spicy Mashed Lentils which I used to put on an oatcake or ryvita, maybe now use as a dip with raw veg. Will check out the carbs before I put the recipe on here.

Skip the lentil recipe just checked and red lentils have 60g carb to every 100g. Even if that is a complex carb it is too much. Anyone know about lentils as there is a recipe in MMs book but brown lentils.

Bubbles! Remember the BSD book which is all about the shaming and guilt for weight gains which is entirely misplaced – it is the carb addiction which sets the body to craving more food not weakness on the part of the eater.

You are NOT bad and wrong, you are a human being whose hormones have got out of sync, and you are well on the way to getting them to do the best thing for your body. Everyone is different, keep the faith and plug onwards, day by day if necessary.

You are a phenomenal success, and a huge inspiration to others – nothing at all bad and wrong in that! 🙂 🙂

Hi Jooles

Our posts seem to have crossed!

I watched the video this morning as I’d not seen any of the TV programmes. I quite enjoyed watching him but wasn’t that impressed with the interviewer. I think the program tried to get through too much in a short space of time and the two ‘guinea pigs’ who had been on the plan for 3 weeks didn’t seem that impressed. Maybe, Michael Mosely should have been more forceful in pointing people to these forums!!!

Hi sunshine-girl

No think you have a different site. It is http://www.dietdoctor.com and the doctor in question seems to be Dr Andreas Eenfeldt. He’s Swedish, sorry I thought it was an American site. I just found it an interesting site. As Loopylou says he does not advocate counting calories instead he says you should rely on your body to tell you when you’re hungry. Unfortunately, I think most of us have lost the knack of knowing when we are hungry!

Anyway, I think there are some useful ideas and graphics on the website

Day one: exercise was excellent today, I walked briskly for an hour which is a lot more than the zero I usually do! Food was also great for most of the day, but then I suddenly got ravenous when dinner was cooking and shovelled food into my mouth then ate dinner as well! Total calories around 1200, carbs 65g. Better than my usual days but not what I was aiming for.

Trelawny, I previously lost around 4kg in 6 weeks (twice). I didn’t exercise due to a foot injury and I didn’t stick to the BSD very strictly so 4kg seemed quite reasonable to me, more than I’ve lost on other diets. I am determined to do better this time.

I think the big loses some have, and we may have at stages can up the expectations and then something that would get the slimmer of the week/month at a local club type group can feel a disappointment.

I’ve weighed in this week at 63.5kg (a smidgen under 140lbs or just under 10 stone!) after 20 weeks on the BSD.

At 5’6″, my normal weight BMI kicked in at 25, so I’m now under at 22.5.

I started off with my size 16 work trousers getting a bit on the tight side and now I’ve just bought the same pair in a size 10!

I’m aiming to stop at 63kg then keep an eye on things and work out how I can maintain that weight without going back to sugar or simple carbs. When I work out the secret, I’ll let you know😀

Chookymama – turned down wine?! That’s brilliant. I so need to try that. Day 2 for me and have 15 girls here for dinner (booked months ago). Terrified. Went for a run this morning – if you could call it that so already done 6000 steps. Dreading this evening…………. Have a good day all

I think it’s http://www.dietdoctor.com Sunshine Girl – it’s a pretty comprehensive website run by a Swedish Doctor. I’ve not had a good look around yet but initially it looks pretty interesting.

Thanks for your comments re blood sugars btw… Mine were down to 7.8 today and 8.4 yesterday so definitely going in the right direction 🙂 I had thought it would happen quicker but very happy to see the results so far.

It was an interesting video that Verano recommended which can be found here http://www.dietdoctor.com/insight-beating-diabetes-with-dr-michael-mosley

Now I have looked at the book and it is thefooddoctor.com from the book by Ian Marber but seems to have been taken over but a company selling food supplements, so not the food doctor.

I’ve just clicked into thedietdoctor.com and it came up with F6wellness.com. First page on diet advice, ‘never go below 1200 calories or you will ruin you metabolism…….blah blah blah.

Is the the same diet doctor i.e. Dr Ian Marber because I have his book, a few years old now (2008) so still the old advice but some of the recipes look good, will have another browse.

Hi bubbles,
I agree with sunshinegirl completely. I’d give my eye teeth for your weight loss figures! 🙂 We all start at different weights so comparisons are not helpful.
I think my weight loss averages at a shade over 1 lb per week (although it’s probably less than that now because, admittedly, I have relaxed things a bit these past few weeks). I started in January, I’ve lost around 30lbs in total (it fluctuates – refer to previous sentence) but would like to lose a bit more in order to achieve my ultimate target. When I get my 2nd wind I’ll knuckle down to it.

Even after all this time, I’m still prone to stuffing my face with things I know I shouldn’t! My mood is a big bad influence, plus I’m a sucker for special offers in the supermarket. Everyone hits a wall in this process.

We shouldn’t fixate on who’s the slowest loser – a loss is a loss, it’s still an achievement. After 13 weeks, your body probably just needs a bit of a breather, then it’ll get back on track. I am sure you will make inroads into that remaining 45kg – it’s not a race, as you yourself said: just keep plugging away at it.
Keep your chin up!