Listen to your body – you will understand how you feel better than anyone. The short-term 800 cals plan may have an effect on your energy levels initially but you will adjust pretty quickly. Those sorts of classes 5 days a week are pretty high intensity so you may feel that you need to cut it back for a short time.

If you do have to make a slight change initially… once you are on the BSD 5:2 or BSD Way of Life, I’m sure you will be able to train as normal again.

Watched a study on bbc which showed that the sacharine in products can actually higher the blood sugar. Just for interest Stavia a sweetener derived from plants doesn’t. In would be as well to see if anymore studies have been done. It would be shame if you are doing well to spoil it just with a fizzy drink. Perhaps make your own cocktails with fruit and fizzy water. Cant wait to read them so l can try.

I’ve just finished day 5 and it has all been going well so far. I have only been drinking water or tea but it’s Friday night and I would like to have a diet lemonade soda as my “cocktail” I have read various reports that people who drink diet drinks still have raised blood sugar levels despite them being sugar free and I don’t want to spoil all of the hard work I have done by messing with my sugar levels. So are there actual medical studies that can prove or disprove the effect of diet soda?

That all sounds very well organised. I might follow your example!
Penny

Hi Gateofheaven – Great to hear that you are doing well on the diet that your GP is supporting you. Most GPs are usually delighted when patients are proactive about their health. It’s helpful too that you are monitoring your BP and blood sugars.

Natalie you are right, if Michael and I are representative, doctors get little or no training in nutrition in our case (we met in medical school before we married).
Anyway, good luck to all of you and hope you find the right approach for you.

Brilliant thank you for that

That sounds promising. Thanks GoH

Yes, ate them for years as advised by the diabetic nurse, DESMONDS, general health advice, etc. I had my suspicions, as I was always starving two hours later on porridge, but go all day on an omelette. They spike my blood sugar, as I found out when I started comprehensive testing (against the nurses advice) so gave them up for the time being. Uncooked oats like muesli, or Nairn’s type oat biscuits were much better for me.Testing, although expensive, is the way to go, I think. Everyone is different.

Got mine at Big W for $16

My pleasure- hope you find it useful 🙂

For the heck of it, I weighed the low-carb veggies I was eating and they added up to 50 plus calories a day! I guess for me, i need to keep track of those cuties, 🙂 .

What a wonderful resource, Cazzowary, thank you!

I’m 65 with multiple significant health issues; not even able to exercise and I am doing well on the diet! Go for it! I’m feeling much better today than when i started. I also take my blood pressure as well as my blood sugars to make sure all is well and stay on top of changes. This way my doctor can help me modify the meds I take – which we have already done once!

My doc told me that cholesterol was associated with, you guessed it, sugar! In the past when i cut out simple carbs, my cholesterol went way down! Figure the same thing is happening now. 🙂

lol, pmshrink! I was surprised to find that lettuce is 10 to 20 calories for the salad i make. Then i add a veg or three – also weighed. I found to my surprise that oftimes the veges were around 40 to 50 calories, so they add up. I do try to add something green every day and also some low glycemic fruit at the end of one meal. I’m being very strict right now for the first 8 weeks, just because the results are so gratifying. But unless things change, i’ll gladly go to two days a week at the end of the 8 weeks!

The first couple of weeks I had plenty of slips! Mainly chocolate. I’m sure it slowed down the weight loss a bit, but it didn’t undo the good work. I just gradually tightened up my adherence to the rules. I’m on week 5 now, still going strong.

I do that too then put it into My Fitness Pal. I admit I don’t weigh lettuce!
Penny

I do feel sorry for GPs who have to keep up with all the latest medical science, have almost no training in nutrition so have to just follow government guidelines, and who have all these clients come in having self-diagnosed themselves off the internet or wanting to try a “crazy” new diet! But yours sounds terrible. Too old at 68 to get healthier? Or ever? And not listening to you. I know some places in the world you are assigned a doctor and might not have the choice to change, but if you have the chance go and find a doctor who will at least listen to your concerns and try to help you, even if they don’t agree with this particular plan.

Ditto. My dream is to be rid of it and lower my LDL reading of 5.7,

It was quite a bit of work for me in the beginning. I still weigh everything on a sensitive kitchen scale. Even lettuce. I’m not using a program, so write everything down (calories per gram and protein counts because i’m watching that). Once down, it’s a piece of cake. Just use my calculator and some algebra when i have something i’ve made and frozen to see how many calories. Sounds like your calculators would be faster. Perhaps i’ll learn to use those later. Now it is quite simple for me.

A warm welcome to the forums Anticarb.

Sandy

Hi Floraellen I am sorry to hear that your GP is not very sympathetic to your diet plans. As a GP myself I know we tend to be a bit conservative about new things! Can I suggest you print off Professor Roy Taylor’s excellent information sheet in the link below. It is best to have your GP on board if possible.
https://thebloodsugardiet.com/information-for-professionals/
You may need to reduce your blood pressure tablets on the diet, but you are not too old!

I’m sure you ll get used to it!
Penny

Thanks for all your help, pmshrink. I am finally getting there. It still doesn’t seem that quick to me, but I guess once you’ve got all your regular foods entered, its easy. I’ll persevere and see how I get on. Thanks again.

Just reading the 8 week blood sugar diet and feeling really motivated to try this out.. I am planning on starting the diet in just over a weeks time. Good luck and best wishes to those of you that are currently doing the plan.

What are they, about 60 calories each? If your keeping the rest of you diet around 800 calories, they won’t undo anything. just try not to make it a habit. I’m on day 4 as well & surprised how well I’m doing. I’m making sure I sip water all day & get my 3 liters.

I am on day 4 and tonight I have had 2 mini fudge out of a heroes box, I know this sounds daft but will it undo my work so far, with them being very sugary ???

Hi Malkay
They don’t have the nutritional facts so we have to look them up on google.
Re serving size. It can be grams or millilitres as well
Penny

Just going out, but will come back to this in an hour or two. On the Create Food page, where do I find all the nutrition facts?

Thankyou for all the replies. I was so down after the GP and a bit frightened about starting this diet as she was not the least bit interested in anything I had to say. I haven’t checked my blood sugar so dont know where l am yet, but l did measure myself and shock shock l am the same bust and hip size and my waist isn’tmuch smaller deffinately time for a change.

You can make the servings whatever you want. I do mine in grams. Just click on Units and type the first letter.

That makes perfect sense, thanks so much!! Now I can get on with it!

Hi Malkay
For serving size for a salad you could put 1 plate or 1 bowl, or .5 plate etc. It suggests cups but you can put other things.
For servings per container put 1 in the case of the salad.
Sometimes I make hummus then I might have 4 servings in the container.
Hope this helps!
Penny

Thanks again, pmshrink. I’ve got that far. What do you put in ‘serving size’, and ‘servings per container’? It’s telling me I have to do it in cups, which seems strange for a salad!

Hi Malkay
It’s just confusing at first. If there’s no brand name just put whatever name you like eg ‘apple’ then apple again in description. Then on the next page, calories. It’s obviously good if you put on all the other optional nutrients which you can google for. Then MFP will monitor all your intake of all nutrients. It’s a bit of work but only once for each thing then you ve got it there.

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pmshrink – thanks for that. But I am obviously being really stupid. I have just tried it again. I go to ‘My Foods’, then ‘Create New Food’ . Then there are only 3 options, including brand name and serving size???? How do I add a food when there is no brand name etc? Sorry to be so stupid!

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hi Malkay. Honestly you’re not being stupid, they should make it clearer. I’ve been doing g it for a few years do have got used to it.
If you want to make a ‘food’ and it has no brand name, just put in what would help you. It might be ‘Apple’ or ‘medium apple ‘ etc. Or I’ve put in some things I have at the local cafe ( the sleepy owl) such as ‘the sleepy owl salad nicoise’ then in the description you could put
‘Apple’ again or ‘salad nicoise’ – it’s just so it’s easy to find them. You will end up with a list. You search in the search box or scroll through the list.
After you ve done the description go to the next page and pug in calories and other nutrients which is useful as MFPwill then monitor you’re input of all nutrients. You can google for the nutrients. It’s a bit of work but inly once for each item then it’s there every time.
Let me know how you get on
Penny

Zandranna, you are right! My book will be arriving today, but as I look at the recipes on this site, I realize this is not your typical low carb diet. It is what we call in the States low glycemic load, which allows you good carbs like certain fruits and veg. I think if I had to count carb grams all day, I would lose my mind, and I hope that’s not advised in the book! Yes, a low sugar diet is good!

pmshrink – thanks for that. But I am obviously being really stupid. I have just tried it again. I go to ‘My Foods’, then ‘Create New Food’ . Then there are only 3 options, including brand name and serving size???? How do I add a food when there is no brand name etc? Sorry to be so stupid!

Hi guys, thanks for the tip on the group on myfitnesspal, I shall look you all up as I love using it. Only on day 4 but feel better, no don’t think any weight is going. I think this way of eating can be difficult to judge exact calories as we are making everything ourselves and trying to get carbs down. Anyway I’m going to keep trucking and see how it goes. Keep the posts coming they are a great motivator.

I too am hoping to reduce my cholesterol level. Statins are the one tablet that I loath taking.

It’s great to link up with you over there. Thanks for friending me. I’ve been struggling over there on my own for a couple of years now.

@floraellen – I”m 67 and on statins, and betablockers. Diagnosed T2 late last year.

I am feeling great on this diet.

This is not actually a low carb diet, it’s a low sugar diet. We are getting plenty of carbs, but good carbs. Bread, potatoes, pasta and rice are the bad carbs which turn into far too much sugar. We are simply substituting those for good carbs.

It’s the low fat style of eating that has been slowly poisoning us by feeding us overloads of sugar.

Don’t think of this as a low carb diet (it’s not) it’s a low sugar diet.

68 is not old and your Doctor is an idiot.

I find that the recipes in the book are typical of recipes written by someone who a) lives in the south of England, b) already has a store of esoteric ingredients and c) is feeding an entire family the same menu. Cooking for 1 is a big problem when fresh ingredients cannot be frozen. when a recipe call for 1/4 tin cannellini beans or sprigs of this herb or that herb when you are not in a position to “eat things up before they go off”. I am sure that avoiding waste is a major contribution to overeating.

I have reconciled to the fact that it is not practical to do a varied menu, but eating the same meal for a recipe for 2 people twice a week on alternate days is doable. Breakfast – Yoghurt and frozen compote (different flavours), Lunch – Tuna and spiralized veg or hummus and crudités, – This means shopping 2x per week for 2 different evening meals and eating them A,B,A,B,C,D,C . This allows a different and possibly more experimental meal on Saturday. This avoids waste and minimises the ingredient list.

I remember once writing a shopping list for the Carol Vorderman detox diet. One quarter of the ingredients were unavailable and others used a teaspoonful of an expensive 500g pack which said “once opened keep in a dark place and consume within 2 weeks – Not suitable for freezing” . The book went to the charity shop the next day.

That said – I have had harissa chicken and Courgetti prawns (twice) without the added fresh herbs and both were delicious.

Just about to eat lunch on day 4 and this mornings weigh in shows an overall loss of 4.4lb (from 200). No hunger or serious cravings but I do have a spaced out headache today so replenishing fluids.

Hi again Gateofheaven
I just put a two egg omelet with one teaspoon of olive oil in My Fitness Pal to check the nutrition.
74% fat, 25% protein, 1% carbs.
Great! And so not what we ve been told to do for years. I just looked at the NHS website as well. It says base your diet on potatoes, bread and pasta, with some protein and a small amount of fat. Once you’ve read Michaels book, that sounds like madness.
Penny

Hi Malkay
Re MFP. It’s best to use ‘my foods’ and ‘my recipes’ as much as possible so you’re not scrolling through lots of irrelevant stuff, especially as we tend to eat the same things frequently. But searching for foods shouldn’t be difficult. Obviously it does take a bit of time. Did you find the BSD group? It comes under ‘ community’.
Penny

I am Type 2 Diabetic and been advised that I am insulin deficient rather than resistant. I’m on Metformin and just started insulin (1 dose 10 units daily, I’m on day 4). I’ve talked about this diet and Professor Roy Taylor’s work with my doctor and insulin nurse a couple of times now and they are not keen at all but I really want to give it a go. I’d obviously prefer to do it with medical support but as I am not overweight and my blood pressure is low (my only really good statistic). My body fat is a bit on the high side which must mean there is some fat in liver and pancras surely?. Any advice on how to approach insulin nurse next week in my first check up since going on insulin? I was thinking I could give it till the 2 week review to convince them.

Thanks

If you’re not sure about calories, a good place to find accurate counts is the USDA nutritional database (American)

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search

It’s what I use when MFP has too many variants.

Will look for you there – I also find it a great tool! Keep up the good work!

How very wonderful for you Nessie! I’m delighted.
There’s some research out there that does indicate that eating foods we are not tolerant of affects us negatively. Thank you for reminding me of that. Most dairy i do not tolerate. I haven’t had dairy in two days other than a pat of butter – i’ll try cutting that out too. We’ll see what happens.. I’ll be more mindful from now on. Thanks!

I am pleased to say, my weightloss has begun again. I took dairy out of my diet (I have never been very tolerant of dairy, always makes me bloated), and it started to drop off again.
I hope everyone else begins to see some changes soon.
Thank you all for the words of encouragement and solidarity.
I would like it is Micheal came in here to offer a more medical perspective on it all too.

I do two other things. I weigh EVERYTHING – including lettuce with a sensitive food scale i found on sale. I look up EVERYTHING at calorieking.com. We are lucky that our food labeling in the U.S. is easy to apply to this diet. I try to stay with foods i make at home because it is easier to control the calories and nutrients.
Yes, I have no doubt that you will figure it out! !! My doctor had me slightly tweak this diet a teeny bit by emphasizing fats more; having a high fat, moderate protein and low carb breakfast everyday. He showed me some research that he is pulling together on how to turn the body into a fat burning machine, lol, rather than a carb and protein burning one. He suggested that i increase my healthy fats (nuts, olive oil, cold pressed coconut oil, and grass fed butter) after looking at my food diary. I balked at first given their high calories. But what a difference that made! So in the morning i make my 2 eggs with 1tsp olive oil. I add a very few walnuts to the next meal (weighed very carefully). The last meal is often hummus because it is easy and i buy the regular fatted one. Or, a big salad with olive oil based salad dressing or some other green. Or i have a nice cup of full fat (see Dr. Mosley’s information on full fat milk now on the website) goat’s milk kefir for 140 calories and some greens. About 140 of my calories now come from fat. I feel better. Less desire for food except when we have to increase the prednisone i’m on and then i have to use steely determination because i could then eat the refrigerator door, forget the food!
It has taken me a lot of time to get the information together that i needed to do a good job. And also a good bit of the doctor’s time, for which I am blessed (we are dealing with complex medical issues). But bit by bit, i am beginning to be able to coast on my current knowledge. And sometimes, the end of the 8 weeks can’t come soon enough….. lol

What time is it in Australia now? It is just shy of midnight here.