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  • posted by  SunnyB on Non scale victories
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    Love this idea and I’m happy to add my NSVs to the list

    Sleeping better – not waking as often during the night and feel more rested in the morning.

    More energy and feel more vital – actually want to get off the sofa and do something.

    Skin more radiant – doesn’t look as tired and worn.

    My waist has started to put in an appearance again and my tummy’s flatter – not talking wash-board you understand, but it is definitely not as bulgy.

    Jean are looser – can get into my small ones and do them up, but I need to lose a pound or two more for them to be presentable in public.

    Dress I want to wear to a wedding this weekend now fits properly again – and makes me look good!

    Sinuses improved, even though I am now eating dairy again and this had always been an issue and caused me sinus problems in the past.

    Finally – and I can’t say categorically that this is due to the diet, but – I have had a frozen shoulder for months, but since starting the diet it has improved drastically. I no longer need any pain killers at all and the mobility is also improving. This might be coincidental – and I’m sure the GP would say so if asked – but we all know this diet is changing our bodies, so I have to wonder if it might not be at least in part responsible for this change too.

  • posted by  SkyWalker on I suppose it's a start
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    Of course with the comments being online they will naturally attract the Trolling that is so pervasive now. When the success of BSD is so obvious to others as it is to ourselves we shall not need to worry about the bias shown by organisations vying for attention. Truth will out…

  • posted by  SkyWalker on 'Weigh in' thread
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    I made the mistake of buying new set of scales this weekend and though they are good quality they read 0.3 kg higher than my old ones and an older inherited one. We had them for around 30 years! Anyway, keeping the new ones recycling the old ones, bit like myself…

  • posted by  SunnyB on 'Weigh in' thread
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    Hi georgiarose
    Don’t let the lack of weigh loss at this point derail you. These events are common on this diet, so just stick to you guns and eventually you will see the kgs start to fall again. You have done well to date, so use that positive to keep you focused. Let us know how you get on.

  • posted by  Bill1954 on What have you eaten today?
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    Yesterday was chicken stew for lunch and prawn omelette for dinner.
    Finished the day with 3 strawberries sliced with Greek yoghurt and sprinkled with a tsp of milled linseed.
    This was a concious effort at reducing the carbs even further and increasing the fat levels a bit.
    Fluid intake over the day was about two and a half litres.

  • posted by  Bill1954 on Just begining
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    Hi buffy
    gram flour isn’t very clever as a dough.
    To make the flatbreads, you make them exactly the same way as you would a pancake exept the batter is just the flour, water, and a pinch of salt.
    Well done on your 2 week results, you’re well on your way

  • posted by  Bill1954 on I suppose it's a start
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    We’ll see Lynne
    If they recommend the low carb route I’ll stand and cheer
    However, if they (as I suspect) go with the old low fat drivel, then I think it will be time to get loud by responding to every report you read.
    Trouble being that we will be regarded by the powers that be as some sort of minority group.
    Bootcamp indeed.

  • posted by  Bill1954 on 'Weigh in' thread
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    Had it one night last week but cooked the fish without batter.
    It was delicious with the home made mushy peas and took me back to the old days, minus the chips of course.

  • posted by  hashimoto on Calorie miscalculations on some recipes 🤔
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    Hi Penny sounds like paradise. Back here in Blighty my son got the keys for his double allotment and OMG the front fence had been pulled down and the pile of rubbish extended back to about 20 feet and 4 feet deep! I couldn’t believe my eyes. All that to deal with before we even start work on the neglected allotment! There is a native hedge along one side – mostly blackthorn, hawthorn and elder. The council have topped it and kept the lane side part trimmed but inside the allotment it has outgrowth about 10 feet long!!! I’m ordering some other native plants such as wild cherry plum, crab apple, hazel and wild crab apple. It will be good for foraging and the wildlife! My back, arms and shoulder hurt from all the hard work yesterday but at least it is good, healthy exercise!
    🙂

  • posted by  Bill1954 on Over the 8-week line and after
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    Gez that is a remarkable set of results
    Well done mate and thanks for sharing, others will find your experience so inspiring.
    Hi Sharon, that was the perfect answer to Hallies post, you are showing just what can be done and that is exactly the kind of support needed
    Hallie you won’t believe it yet, but in a couple of weeks it will be your posts that are inspiring others.
    I hope I get an invite to one of these diabetes bootcamps, I suspect I won’t last long 😀

  • posted by  hashimoto on 'Weigh in' thread
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    Scotgran – amazing results, go on, have the fish and remove the batter ( an average of 200 cals of fish) the taste is great, I tried it one night last week. Luxury without the falling of the wagon! And you will be part of the family food fest! 🙂 Not sure what the calories are in mushy peas because I don’t eat them but fish and mushy peas is a good supper! 🙂

  • posted by  Bill1954 on Carb top up before bed
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    Hi Libby
    a few of us have had dawn effect problems.
    For me and some others, a fatty late night snack does the trick. I use full fat yoghurt with berries, some have a piece of cheese or a handful of nuts.
    Try it, better for you than the carbs as the fat stops the hunger and will keep you feeling fuller for longer than the carbs will.
    Don’t worry too much about those fasting readings, it’s a natural phenomona and they will come down.

  • posted by  hashimoto on 'Weigh in' thread
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    Grandma48 isn’t it lovely when you can suddenly fit comfortably in smaller sizes! I love hearing news like that 🙂

  • posted by  Bill1954 on Yesterday was Day 1
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    Couldn’t start the day without my coffee.
    There is no problem with it as long as the milk or cream is counted in your daily calories.

  • posted by  hashimoto on 'help' for 100,000 prediabetics
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    True, Bill, true, we must all make our voices heard in GP surgeries. I have a blood test at the end of the month to check on my thyroid and blood sugars – I refused to see the phlebo as I want to reinforce the message with the sympathetic asthma nurse. ( My son says I am turning into an activist – he’s pleased, really!)
    I am going to bring up the possibility of a little self help group for the diabetics in the practice based on this book. May not go down to well but hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    You’re quite right handing out the books would be far more cost effective and actually help those who want to help themselves. 🙂

  • posted by  hashimoto on Hi
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    Hi Hawks, sorry to hear you have had problems. Due to a lot of chest infections I have had an awful lot of oral steroids over the past several years – they too cause hunger pangs and weight gain so I know how you feel. However, this diet has sorted that problem for me. I would only suggest that you keep tabs on your meds when you lose a lot of weight as they will have a stronger effect on less body mass so you may need your doctor to reduce them under supervision. I am currently having my massive doses of inhaled steroids reduced under medical supervision as the combination of antibiotics three times a week plus weight loss plus generally better health on this diet seem to have improved the severity of my asthma.
    Keep well, best wishes 🙂

  • posted by  Bill1954 on 'help' for 100,000 prediabetics
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    LMAO didn’t think old eagle eyes would miss that one !
    I heard this and the first thing I thought was that it would be a whole lot cheaper to send out 200000 copies of michaels book.
    There will be a massive waste of money involved here and, without trying to sound clairvoyant, I wouldn’t mind betting they will be trotting out the same old low fat nonsense as before.
    On top of your suggestions, I would say let everyone who is having any success on this diet make sure their GP’s know about it.
    If we can provide them with the evidence, they may start speaking out.

  • posted by  captainlynne on I suppose it's a start
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    Just read a news report on the success Prof Taylor’s first trial, saying how even people who had been diabetic for 10 years reversed it in the 8 weeks and 6 months after the end of the trial they were still eating healthily and still not diabetic.

    The report goes on to say this could be a cheap way to treat diabetics.

    You should see some of the comments though, ‘type 2s are not diabetic. You’re not diabetic unless you take insulin. Just go on a diet”.

    Someone on the BSD has responded.

    So, to counteract all the naysayers, it’s up to us – both those of us in at the start of the BSD and those who follow in our footsteps – to show ‘them’ that it is effective. And that the benefits are sustainable. So I guess us ‘trailblazers’ will be around on here a long time.

    And, yes, the article is correct – it is a cheap way to counteract diabetes. We’ve been saying that. Prescribing the book is a cheaper (and more effective) way of treating diabetes. But it is also more effective than the conventional ways currently in use.

    Ho hum. Far too early to be on my soapbox. Sorry folks. *Off to get some breakfast*

  • posted by  Justabloke on Over the 8-week line and after
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    Thanks Judith, as Lynne says…. It’s amazing! The proof of the pudding so to speak will be maintaining the weight loss over time and keeping it off. Calorie and Carb restriction to lose the weight and get your insulin response under control and lower Carb intake (compared to pre BSD diet) coupled with regular moderate-intensity exercise to keep it off.

    I personally want to be able to eat fruit as I please and have the odd carbohydrate heavy meal as time goes on, so developing an exercise habit will be key to that dream……

    However, back to reality for a moment. I’ve still got about 16 – 20 kg to go to get to what I consider my trim weight and now that my visceral fat has diminished, I’ve still got a large amount of subcutaneous fat around my middle ( mega muffin-top) and chest that has just got to go 🙂

    So, while walking and calorie restriction is seeing it recede slowly, adding HIT while restricting carbs on those 800 kcal fasting days should theoretically speed fat burning.

    I’m also doing (very light at the moment to avoid injury) upper body weights on a home gymnasium machine to make sure that I’m putting muscle back into the ecosystem. I’m doing this set on my “recovery” days, but it can easily be done as the set of exercises that Dr M lists in his BSD book. There’s more info and plans in the Fast Exercise book.

    Just to add one more piece to the puzzle, I used the “mindfulness” app that Dr M recommended in the beginning to help get to sleep when I cut the glasses of wine every night back to 1. I know I was using wine as a sleeping and de-stress aid. That really helped me in the beginning and then with exercise increasing, I didn’t need anything to help me get off to sleep so it is a very holistic approach. I’m still on just 1 glass a day and haven’t used the mindfulness app since week 2 😀.

  • posted by  hashimoto on 'help' for 100,000 prediabetics
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    There is an announcement today ( see BBC news app) that GPs are being asked to identify 20000 prediabetics in order to recieve help. Sadly we know the advice to exercise and lose weight is NOT what they need. They need this diet (and exercise). This is going to mean lot of money is going to be wasted and, in the end, people will not be helped. Bill said in a previous post that this should be given out in GP surgeries, it may have been a bit tongue in cheek, but if the govt / NHS is going to plough a lot of money in then giving out this book to diabetics and prediabetics who are willing to give the diet a go will be far more helpful and cost effective.

    Folks, it’s time to get the word out there. The plan is to ‘help’ 20000 this year and 100,000 next year. You can look at the details on the news.

    What I propose is:
    Write to NHS chief executive Simon Stevens
    Write to Diabetes UK chief executive Chris Askew
    Write to The Rt Hon Jeremy Hunt MP (secretary of state with overall financial control of the NHS )

    If enough of us make a lot of noise over a period of time they might just start listening.
    So my fellow pioneers and trail blazers are we going to have a go?
    Here’s to a rosy future!

  • posted by  hashimoto on Over the 8-week line and after
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    Hi Gez, thankyou for your kind words. I agree with everything lynne said and she said it so well. We needed to be honest to help ourselves and others. We so much want others to find freedom from diabetes drugs and a new healthier, therefore happier life.

    I read on the BBC news app this morning that the government is investing money to provide help for people with pre diabetes. My heart sank. This means the 100,000 people getting ‘help’ will be spun the old line leading to increased poor health. We know the answer lies in this diet!

    BTW Gez, I like what you have written about exercise! You are proving with your data that it really works 🙂

  • posted by  Spirit on Where did I go wrong
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    Morning evie,

    I concur with the others, lots of us have encountered the same. Fear not, it will start to go down again.

    Also consider if you are drinking enough water given all the exercise you are doing. Or that you might be retaining water?

  • posted by  hashimoto on Just begining
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    Hi buffy, that’s a great weight loss, you must be really happyniw that your jeans fit comfortably, I know I was 🙂

  • posted by  Libby on Already slim, should i worry about plateau?
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    As far as I am aware Stevia is not an artificial sugar – it is a natural plant that is approx 300 times sweeter than sugar. Sometimes Stevia is mixed with other ingredients ie Erythritrol (called Natvia). This is the one I have been using IF I need to put sugar in coffee. I don’t bake with it although you can, because the flavour does something to my stomach in large doses.

  • posted by  Libby on Day 2 lunch – no carb ploughmans!
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    Whilst prepping lunch today and after I had all the ingredients on the kitchen bench – I had an idea! Oops watch out there!
    On my slices of ham (mine were circular – and this is what gave me the idea) I spread the chutney. One on I grated carrot (hate celery) and cheese and rolled up like a wrap. On the other I grated apple and chopped walnuts and rolled like a wrap. Hey presto – two course lunch – savoury followed by sweet. I munched on the remaining apple and walnuts at the end.

  • posted by  Salthegal on Yesterday was Day 1
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    Hi Missay,
    I am about to start the 800 diet. My greatest pleasure is an early morning strong coffee with cream while I read the paper! I have been trying to talk sternly to myself about cutting it out, but I feel as if I can give up anything else except that. Then I saw your post. Oh joy! So – one coffee with regular cream per day will fit OK on the 800 diet? It didn’t upset your results?

    thanks
    Sally

  • posted by  Libby on Carb top up before bed
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    Hi Matrika
    Thanks for your answer. The carb top up is to ensure that the dawn lows don’t happen whilst you’re asleep. Has happened a couple of times 🙁
    Last night I was awake very couple of hours making sure I wasn’t having lows – quite draining!
    Yes already I have started to drop my insulin because of the no carbs and my resultant blood checks are starting to halve at least. The GP has given me some guidelines how to gauge the insulin required each day so I can follow those.
    Also I was checking out the recipes and saw some for low GI crackers so I might give them a try on the weekend.
    Onwards and upwards!
    cheers

  • posted by  Blood Sugar Man on New Beginning.
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    Hi Bill,Nalin,Jay & Sunny. Started food diary yesterday. I eat awfully bad & have been over eating as the diet starts soon. (Nxt Monday-28/03/16). No fruit or veg recorded as yet but plenty of sugary,fatty supplements like ice cream, biscuits, potato chips & frankfurts. I was Borderline diabetic 6 months ago. M seeing Dr tomorrow. Have been feeling a little down the past few days & lost a little motivation & belief in myself but back on track thanks to re-reading Ur emails. For the nxt two months The Blood Sugar Diet will be my priority. After that, the benefits of a healthy lifestyle will hopefully be lifelong but I don’t want to fall into the old trap of getting ahead of myself, as I usually do.
    Anyway, take care & good luck!😜

  • posted by  Jet51 on Day 6 and going well but!
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    Thank you SOS, went looking for pomegranate tea bags today with no success but gave me the impetus to pick a few different types of teas so thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

  • posted by  Matrika on Already slim, should i worry about plateau?
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    Hi shyvarn,
    Getting rid of sugar and artificial sweeteners is good not just for weight loss but for overall health and if there is diabetes in your family, a good investment in your future.

    An Israeli study last year found that artificial sweeteners as well as table sugar changed the composition of gut biota and in addition and alarmingly created insulin resistance in LESS THAN A WEEK in fit and healthy study participants.

    The results shocked everyone. The study is easy to find if you search for it. I may have the detail incorrect but that is the gist of it.

    The study on Stevia is not in yet as far as I know but I gave up Stevia after this one came out. I found it very hard. For motivation I read David Gillespie’s Sweet Poison. He’s an Australian lawyer so it is written in plain english but has a lot references if you are into information. He’s an ex Coke lite drinker. 🙂

  • posted by  Matrika on Using the profile function here is helpful.
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    Hi,

    I’m a newcomer to this forum and have noticed that a lot of people have no profile entered.

    I find it tricky to interact without offending…because without knowing if people have diabetese mellitus, on insulin or diet controlled or insulin resistant, or on meds… or here for overweight with none of the aforementioned…it is pretty hard to know which ballpark is the one to answer within and the information is pretty relevant to being here and the diet approach and success I thought.

    I don’t like to ask people on threads to clarify because it seems intrusive but without any of that information…its kind of difficult to enter discussions.

    So people, please enter a blood sugar relevant profile so we can talk more easily with each other. 🙂

  • posted by  Matrika on Carb top up before bed
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    Hi Libby, I can’t really help with relevant information cause I have never had to use top ups to keep my blood sugar up…I am type II diabetic (10 yrs) but am not taking any meds…and I am constantly battling to keep my blood sugar down! I saw on your profile you are using insulin.

    I do keep glucose tabs handy in case of big BGL drops but have only taken them a few times in the past 10 years.

    As I was reading your post I wondered have you ever tried a protein supper instead of the carbs?

    And would it be possible to talk to your doctor about dropping the insulin levels to allow you to not have the carbs at night? I have a good friend diagnosed about the same time as me and she recently transitioned off her insulin onto another drug that makes it easier to reduce the carbs. It took a lot of work and committment from her GP and weekly blood tests but she’s done it and she is relieved of the constant hunger she used to feel when on the insulin.

    I was glad you had a profile cause it makes it much easier to respond. Good luck! 🙂

  • posted by  Libby on Carb top up before bed
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    I have to have a carb top up before I go to bed each night. How do people handle this? Last night I had 4 small crackers because my bloods were getting a little lower than normal from day 1 of the program (I don’t call it a diet!) and I wanted to make sure I got through the night ok.
    Will I eventually grow out of the carb top up the further I get down the track – ostensibly so because my blood sugars will be stabilising?
    Any help would be appreciated.

  • posted by  buffy045 on Just begining
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    2 weeks today, thought it would be so much harder, after 3 days my jeans fitted nicely, never eaten such a variety of food.
    have been reading the forum on my phone so never can write on the phone too small, 8 lb down in the 2 weeks, had a few small slip ups but have warned everyone to not have any rubbish around the house, this helps as I wont buy anything that will tempt me. had to go out to dinner and had a mushroom risotto, lovely. bought gram flour and tried to make flatbread with it but was like glue I really could not flatten it out. is the flour always like this?
    Well I am off to bed as night is my danger time, thank you to all who post their tips and words of encouragement here it really does help..

  • posted by  captainlynne on Week 9
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    Hi Sharon.

    I think that’s why so many of us are drawing on gnus after the 8 weeks – it doesn’t feel like a diet! Even on the 800 calories I’m eating better, healthier food so why should I want to change that?

    I’ve just under 4 stone left yo lose, having already lost 37 pounds so I’ll be around on here for some time.

  • posted by  captainlynne on Over the 8-week line and after
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    Thanks Gez.

    We’re in at the start of this – trailblazers (or pathfinders) as I said on another post – so I think we have to be honest. Our findings and comments can help the newbies. In their turn they will help those following and the BSD family will continue to grow.

    It would have been pointless to not be honest on here. It would be counter-productive.
    We are the living proof that this works. Our results prove it. Our improved health proves it. Our stories can help and support others. We are creating a database of knowledge, solutions to the problems some people encounter.

    Just think of all the people who are being helped already, then of all those who could be helped. 😃 Amazing!

  • posted by  Justabloke on Over the 8-week line and after
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    Ok, so just a quickie to update on changes I’ve made since the 8 weeks were up and a few numbers to show results.
    My first goal with the BSD was to normalise blood pressure and blood sugars (TICK!) and get a BMI of under 30 – i.e. Overweight, not Obese

    Measurement history to date:
    Start of 8 weeks – Jan 11, 2016
    108.9 kg – Waist 122 cm – BMI 34.37

    End of 8 Weeks – 6 Mar, 2016
    98.2 kg – Waist 111 cm – BMI 30.99

    End of 10 weeks and 2 days 22 Mar, 2016
    95.9kg – Waist 109 cm BMI (still maddeningly) 30.27

    Diet – added some carbs in the form of a piece of fruit and a glass of milk and a couple of slices of homemade wholegrain bread for week 8 and 9 as I was experiencing tired legs rather than the amazing spring I had in my step a few weeks into the diet.

    Exercise – Started regular walking around week 8 – 3.5 km 5 days per week. I have really bad feet and ankles so walking has never been attractive, yet I really wanted to exercise (what?), so I’ve gone to a podiatrist to get help with orthotics so I can walk without the pain in my feet all the next day. Waiting for next appointment as I bought the running shoes he recommended, but feet still ache.

    Week 10, felt that weight was coming off veerrrryyyy slooowwwwly, even though I was still at around 1500 kcal / day with my extra carbs so…..

    Added 9 minutes of High intensity cycling to my exercise days ( 2min light pedal, 20 secs sprint against resistance, repeated 3 times and a 2 minute warm down at end), but now only exercise every second day to give my decades-ignored muscles some recovery time. So I spend 9 minutes on the bike and go for my 3.5 k walk.

    Diet – basically BSD around 1000 kcal per day on the exercise days and 1500 kcal on the recovery days.

    Legs still feel tired in the afternoon on the exercise days ( and I exercise in the late afternoon), but I have the springy step when I wake up the next morning and for the duration of the day on the recovery days. The addition of the HIT exercise seems to have bought back the energy in my legs, so hoping that as I continue to lose weight, this will stay around for longer.

    Final note, weight loss and waist measurement reduction speeded up immediately following the HIT introduction.

    Cheers

  • posted by  captainlynne on Non scale victories
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    Great idea misssay.

    Several pairs of trousers disposed of before they caused me considerable embarrassment in public.

    Working my way down the smaller sizes in my uniform. Fortunately I kept them as I grew out of them. Down two blouse sizes, one skirt size. Funny how skirts get longer when you lose weight!

    New tops and underwear bought in a size that doesn’t begin with a ‘2’. And from a regular shop, not one that only caters for ‘big people’.

    Persistent cough gone. Cold-induced cough gone.

    Blood sugars down. Blood pressure down.

    Thinking clearly. Better concentration. More energy. Things don’t irritate me like they used to.

    Sure there will be more later.

  • posted by  Sharon on Week 9
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    Hi all
    Great result Trees and congratulations.
    I too am planning to stay on after the diet after the 8weeks are up, I am on week 5 now. I also have about 8 stone to lose. I plan to do the 8weeks again and your over the line post are all so encouraging and helpful to read. It feels so strange I don’t feel like I’m on a diet I’m having such lovely food I can honestly say I don’t miss the bread, potatoes, rice or cakes but still have to keep telling myself I don’t like chocolate!!

  • posted by  Hawkeye1 on Moving forward
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    Hi all, well finished my 8 weeks on Friday after loosing 20lbs. Very pleased but a bit dissapointed that there is limited advise on moving forward? Been back into the book but again a bit vague?
    As usual I rely on you guys with all your amazing posts! Did my first fast day today but did 500 calories. It seems that we need to stick to med diet for 5 days but without calorie counting, then 800 for 2?
    Can I ask how any of you are getting on?
    I had a big weekend with concert, birthdays and day out so put on a whopping 5lbs. Need to ensure that my regular eating does not have that effect!! Happy to work hard for the 2 days but worried that the 5 days without counting will spiral out of control.

  • posted by  misssay on Yesterday was Day 1
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    I have tea and coffee, one or the other, or both some days. Quite a few forum members do. Coffee is sometimes with a splash of cream to get the fat in, milk in the odd cup of tea, or two! I’m in the UK, so just off to bed in a minute, but there are several forum members from Australia who’ll be around while we’re snoozing!