Offal is no different to any other cuts of meat. Be brave and go for it if you want it, I’m not letting this diet stop me from enjoying a wide variety of foods.
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You might need to retrain your palate to unsweetened or low sugar. I slowly cut down my sugar in my coffee down to one of raw sugar, my tea was easier. I had always used sweetener and just changed to it’s stevia version. The hardest change I had was getting used to almond milk, I missed the heaviness that cow’s milk gave coffee.
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If you’re used to something sweet start with a normal full fat yogurt and over a couple of week blend it with greek yogurt. I have always had sweet ones but need to get off them so this is how I’m going to do it, also your fruit choice helps the yogurt’s palatability.
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thanks Cherrianne Bill1954 and hashimoto. I am pleased to report I feel so much better today. Yesterday I felt like a drug addict coming off an addiction – which is essentially what is happening of course. I thought I was heading for an afternoon in bed. But it eased, I didnt go to bed, and today I feel so much better. Hungry and look forward to food, but not the horrible fevery feeling that made the thought of food intolerable. No weight loss still (day 7) but onwards and upwards! Thank you so much for helpful support!!
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posted by Chameleonbeetle on Michael Mosley on Australia's SBS's Insight program 'Beating Diabetes', Tuesday 1 March
on 20 Mar 2016 at 02:10 in Welcome to the BSDIn many ways Michael Mosley is like Columbus, sailing into the unknown with getting this accepted. The more of us that get on this diet and change our lives for the better, the easier it will be for the medical profession and the public to accept.
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posted by Chameleonbeetle on Has anyone felt very unwell in the beginning?
on 20 Mar 2016 at 02:05 in Welcome to the BSDThe headaches are withdrawals from all sorts of bad things as well as changeover to the new fuel.
As for your problem Trishart, that’s your guts getting used to the new foods. Some bacteria will be dying off while others are starting to grow, in time the smell will settle.
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There are heaps of prebiotic foods available too. I enjoyed sauerkraut with some foods and am going to try kimchi next.
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When you make big changes to habits of a lifetime, it takes awhile to retrain to new habits. I went low gluten years ago because of arthritis and I still occasionally crave certain items. This is where mindfulness helps, I mentally divert those thoughts for awhile and if there still there after a few months I give in to that craving. But I am finding the gaps are longer and I’m not enjoying it as much.
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Wow carsong, you must be on cloud nine with those results. There’s nothing quite like getting your blood sugar levels down is there? Really makes you feel like you are in charge of the diabetes not the other way round.
Hi tinforest, the first week should be the worst you ever experience doing the BSD. Your body is going through some huge changes, not just from carb/ sugar withdrawal but changing over from using carbs for fuel (easy fuel), to burning fat ( more effort). So it’s going to kick up a fuss and find it tough going. Your whole eating pattern has probably changed too, and instead of having frequent sugary snacks it’s got to manage on less.
It’s becoming a bit of a mantra now, but here it goes: keep up your fluid intake to 2-3l day, make sure you include fats in your diet, as much as your count allows, and watch out for carbs sneaking in. Rest and treat yourself kindly when you’re going through a rough patch and stay in touch! 🙂 -
posted by Chameleonbeetle on Worried the Calorie count in the book is wrong…..
on 20 Mar 2016 at 01:43 in Welcome to the BSDUsing an app makes life infinitely easier. I’m using Easy Diet Diary for iOS because I can set goals on it. At the moment I’m making baby steps in my dietary changes because I also have my diabetic mother to consider with dinner meals.
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posted by Kat in Oz on Calorie miscalculations on some recipes 🤔
on 20 Mar 2016 at 01:36 in Fast 800Hi Natasha,
I’m recording all my food in My Fitness Pal……..http://www.myfitnesspal.com/ and it calculates all your food calories for you and so far the calories stated in the recipes are almost spot on according to my diary in MFP. I have been very precise with the recipes too, as I’m very serious about reversing my T2 diabetes…….it’s worth getting a set of cup and spoon measures to be sure.
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posted by Cherrianne on Calorie miscalculations on some recipes 🤔
on 20 Mar 2016 at 01:16 in Fast 800Hi Natasha, that’s tough being cold and uncomfortable in that unfamiliar environment.
Funny how we all reach for the comfort of food in those situations, all humans are the same at that basic level aren’t they?
Can you get a nice hearty soup where you are? That might help. Or extra veg with your meal that you can add butter too and indulge your body with the fats.
The hot bath is a good idea too. Something hot to drink with cinnamon is comforting, like proper chai tea ( not powder), or lemon and ginger.
We are with you in spirit, cheering you along. The weekend will soon pass, and you can let us know how you managed. Might help someone else through a tough patch. All the best, 🙂 -
Flaxseed ground (you can buy it) is a Great coating for anything you want to fry……plus it’s good for you too and carb-free.
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ann077 I don’t know if this relates directly to you but perhaps worth a scan for the insulin info
http://www.ketogenic-diet-resource.com/reactive-hypoglycemia.html
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ann077 I have lost no weight either (I’m gaining) but my blood sugars are looking better yesterday and that is progress for me…I am not in my second week yet…if you are prediabetic you may have very high levels of insulin (as I still do, however I am well and truly diabetic). If that is so, things like dried fruit or fresh fruit or rolled oats will interfere with weight loss because they trigger insulin in some of us…and insulin instantly puts the kaibosh on fat burning for anyone with insulin resistance, so it is a harder battle.
You can get insulin levels taken at the same time as you do the 3 hour blood glucose tests…but you usually have to insist that the doctor request them…most GPs unfortuantely don’t recognize the importance of insulin measures…I have been told it is useless and the information wont tell me anything. Not true at all and reason to change doctors and find a better informed one.
Best of luck and keep on collecting your responses to different foods and tracking your blood sugar levels cause they will indicate what triggers what.
I am going to try the ketostix that I’ve seen mentioned on other threads, they sound like a good idea to show exactly how few carbs we need to hit in order to create fat burning.
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Hi captain Lynn,
Cat girl and I need the toasted mouse calories in case Bear needs to skinny babes to go out under the stars with.
We need to count our calories.
How many calories in a swoon?I have been out and about walking yesterday and today.
Had steak last night and chicken today. Asked for a slice of toast, I cut it in half, ready to enjoy it , took a bite and didn’t enjoy it. So I passed it on.Seems the stuff I couldn’t live without, I can’t live with now, that’s great. I am really happy over it. So I am now ready to explore other foods. My life is really evolving now.
It’s been cloudy today, but have noticed birdies with twigs in their beaks, ready to build, without planning permission. Anyone notice this going on?
Love Lucia xxxx
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Hi All, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I think I can say now that I’m through the blood sugar spikes. Last three mornings have been 5.2, 5.3 & 5.3 again today.
So for those who are still going through it take heart. Mine lasted just over three weeks I think.
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Coconut prawns sounds just the thing when I have the munchies.Just hope I don’t burn the house down!
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Hi Sunnyb, if you were still around 23 g carbs including two glasses of bubbly then it shouldn’t matter what your total calories were, you should be fine. But even if you do put on, it will only take a day or two to go again. A reasonable sacrifice for your celebration I’m sure!
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The only times I get the shake’s is when there is no alcohol to drink! 🍷🍻🍹 cheers.
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Like you, I have had a wobble today. Had a celebratory meal for my daughter’s 30th, so there were a couple of glasses of champagne, food wise to dodgy things were one small parsnip, peas and gravy. Felt over full and guilty afterwards – ate at 3 and still feeling too full! as far as I can guestimate, I was about 120cals over for the day and 3g carbs above my recent consumption of 20g per day. Now I worried I might have trashed the 2lb loss I seemed to have consolidated this week.
Tomorrow’s another day and I will be cautious and make sure I keep tight control of things. Weekly weigh in is Monday morning, so the truth will out soon!
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thanks hashimoto
doing better this morning – don’t seem to have a headache threatening today. and have lost a little weight, but the pants are feeling looser, and that’s an all day reminder things are moving in the right direction.
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There are lots of herbal teas out there to try and chais – with or without milk, or coconut water (watch the carbs though), or unsweetened almond milk (again watch the carbs). Whatever you decide to try, be sure to count cals and carbs.
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I should add – I have stuck to 50 carbs. I could go lower if I gave up my lattés 😉
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posted by Shrinkydinkyman on Doing well then stalled, how long before I start losing again?
on 19 Mar 2016 at 22:39 in Welcome to the BSDHave you tried Mulled wine or a Whiskey Mac? Both very warming. 🍷☕or coffee and Cognac! ☺
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Rubbu, a pound and a half off which is great for me – and effortless. I’ve always been sceptical of diets that say you don’t have to count and in the past they have never worked for me. But only counting carbs is definitely the way to go for me. Before I started carb counting I was getting a bit hung up on the calories in things like olive oil. But now I don’t care. I have taken particular inspiration from the DD’s plates with the butter on and that’s how I have been eating my vegetables. They taste so much better and I’m sure I am able to digest them better and get more nutrients from them.
How about yourself? What are your thoughts?
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posted by Shrinkydinkyman on Day 6 and going well but!
on 19 Mar 2016 at 22:31 in Welcome to the BSDA bottle of Beaujolais work’s for me 🍷Cheers.
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Thank you so much for your kind replies!
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Janet1973
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I found 3 on this site
http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/grenade-hydra-6-908g-tub
http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/phd-nutrition-diet-whey-2kg-tub
http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/sports-supplements-whey-protein-optimum-health-ultimate-whey-protein-2-25kg#hasKitsI went with the Grenade Hydra 6 as it was on offer with the code and bogf the Phd I will try next was a good low carb/sug and Optimum Health I have tried in the past was good value but more carbs.
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Yes Mandy stick with it. I have 24 lbs to loose in total. Week 1 lost 7lbs, then 1, followed by 2 lbs, than nothing! gained 2lbs and now at week 6 lost 3 lbs… I have done ww before and bsd is faster not to mention easier as I find most days I am not hungry,. I have slipped a few times but this way of eating for life seems manageable long term not to mention the health benefits… Let us know how you get on this week…don’t give up! Xx
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Hi Janet 1973
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So yesterday marked one week. Bang on six kilos lost. I assume it will taper off to something more stable for the rest of the time, but that’s a good base from which to work! I’m finding it pretty easy hunger/cravings wise. Hardest thing is variety. I’m not so much following the recipes here, just drawing on a subset of ingredients and using myfitnesspal to judge portions and track calories and macronutrients
Been alcohol free for a week. I suspect that’s helping the weight loss!
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posted by Julia18togo on Calorie miscalculations on some recipes 🤔
on 19 Mar 2016 at 21:21 in Fast 800Natasha, sounds like you are doing really well…. am I jealous given my stalling this week! I imagine it is very tough being in a situation where you are out of your comfort zone. We are rooting for you though and I reckon that you are better to go and have a hot bath – this should be relaxing as well as buyng you time while you think what you really want to do😊
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posted by Natasha_ENFP on Calorie miscalculations on some recipes 🤔
on 19 Mar 2016 at 21:12 in Fast 800Hello there,
Just checking in as it ‘s been a few days, really interesting posts, especially some of the recipe calculations!!
I’ve been posting in the Facebook groups and see there have been a few problems. I haven’t checked in on there for a couple of days… I hope everything is ok??? I think support is vital and hope it’s here and also on FB.
I am going through a really down patch today. I basically cancelled all my social stuff for 8 weeks while on the bsd, and this weekend I’m on a training course with 300 people I don’t know, and for some reason I feel really unsettled, when I usually enjoy these types of things, but everything feels really strange and unfamiliar.
The weather is also freezing cold. I had an incredibly strong urge to comfort myself and relieve this horrible unsettled/unsafe feeling by having a burger and chips, chocolate, or something comfort foody which I know would make me feel better, and had to fight it because I knew that would make me feel worse afterwards. I just feel horrible 🙁
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posted by Sharon on Doing well then stalled, how long before I start losing again?
on 19 Mar 2016 at 21:08 in Welcome to the BSDSorry thread is called (feeling cold)
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posted by Sharon on Doing well then stalled, how long before I start losing again?
on 19 Mar 2016 at 21:07 in Welcome to the BSDHi Christi1948
Have a look at the iam cold thread you might get some advice on that. Stick with it and hope you feel better soon. -
Judith. Unfortunately I’ve no old, outgrown clothes, they went to charity shops years ago 😢 . And when I visit charity shops to buy they have every size but mine, whatever it happens to be 😳
Fortunately I kept my old uniform as I expanded, so am now working my way down through those. The other day I put on a skirt and it slipped right down, when I checked the size it was the skirt that used to cut me in two at the start of BSD 😱 . It is on its way to a new home!
Bishop Aukland – mmm, didn’t even think of clothes shopping there, but popped into Beales for a coffee and saw them.
Jpscloud LOL. I could usefully lose another 10 inches or thereabouts. At least I’m not straight up and down now! At 5ft 2ins it wasn’t a good look 😱
Thanks Sharon. 😊
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Hi Malkay, have a fabulous time in Ireland and don’t worry about a darned thing! Rose
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posted by Christi1948 on Doing well then stalled, how long before I start losing again?
on 19 Mar 2016 at 20:42 in Welcome to the BSDI started the diet at the beginning of February, in the first four weeks I lost 16lb, I had a few wobbles but got to the end of the four weeks, I am now at the end of the the 6th week and have barely lost two pounds, I am cold all the time, ( I know it’s cold at the moment in the uk.) however I am unusually cold and at this particular time I am having real wobbles and am tempted to eat to get warm! I am trying really hard not to succumb and haven’t as yet, what I want to know is how long this feeling lasts, does anyone else have this cold and hungry feeling that comes and goes, and what do I do to get through it, it is making me feel awful in so many different ways, it seems pathetic to feel this way, especially after I got through the daughters birthday last week, making trifle and choc mint birthday cake! I have stuck to the diet to the letter too. Just having a wobble and a gripe!
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Hi Rubbu
As well as being quite entertaining (not to mention a bit dishy) I also think the diet doctor makes a lot of sense and complements the bsd 800 very well. His videos are well worth watching and the recipes are also useful. -
Thank you everyone, it’s a relief to know that others are experiencing the same thing and that I know it’s ok. I can’t believe how easy this has been so far.
I’ve not felt as cold since yesterday, so hopefully that part has passed.
Good luck everyone on your missions.
Celia
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From diet doctor…..
Wheat is not a vegetable, it is a grain. And anything made with flour contains lots of rapidly digested carbs. Avoid this as much as possible when on a low-carb diet. Whole grain products are just less bad – it’s like cigarettes with filter on them.
Bread, pasta, rice, cookies etc. are not vegetables, and they are full of carbohydrates.High fructose corn syrup – the sugary nutrient in soda – does come from plants (corn). But it is not a vegetable and it most certainly is not low carb.
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Great thread, I am vegetarian but live in France which causes lots of problems. Even a goats cheese salad comes covered in lardons! Tofu is the one thing I can get but have never liked. Perhaps I will give it another try.
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Hi good luck. I’ve been doing this diet for 5 days. I have no idea about my blood sugar levels however feel I needed something health wise. Weigh loss so far is great and using different ideas from book and here. Stick at it x I’m worried about failing too but looking at forum to help motivatee too.
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Hi Jet
Yes, its definitely a challenge, I haven’t yet kicked my Pepsi max habit but here are some other suggestions:
Add full fat cream to your coffee (but count cals and carbs)
Fruity teas, with a spoonful of coconut oil
Fruity tea bags in fizzy water – gives more of a fragrance than a taste
Mint tea in fizzy water with lime – non-alcoholic mohitoSee what you think and let us know how you get on. Best wishes.
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Hi Sophie
This diet was designed with TOFI’s in mind amongst others). Its a short sharp shock which hopefully puts you on track to improve your long term well being. You may well only need the eight weeks (or less!) but in that time you can re-educate your mind and body with good habits that will stay with you forever. Best of luck to you Sophie. -
Hi jpscloud, well done on finding your way here and completing your first day. You can wake up in the morning knowing you had a great day yesterday and it was so easy!
I just wanted to have a little word with that devil on your shoulder who has been trying to tempt you to go for the 5:2 where apparently you can ‘eat normally’. Well, in this case that means still sticking to the med style diet just with no calorie counting. So probably not any of your old favourites, I’m afraid. Now little devil, b***r off and let jpscloud get on with losing weight. There is nothing wrong with the 5:2 as long as you are doing it right but if you want to lose weight fast, the 800 is the way to go. Wishing you every success.
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Hope you enjoy them – let me know how they turn out.
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Welcome bizzylizzy
I agree with what the others have said and pleased your out of the corner.