Thanks Julia, I thought about this early this morning then rejected the idea because I know it’s not likely to get 100000 votes. Then lynne made me think again- so this is as much her as me – and all of you who have offered support for this idea. Let’s hope it goes live! 🙂

Julia, what has happened with your parents is baffling!! Just more proof we need to get this out there 🙂

All signed Judith
Speak later

All signed 😉

Hi Julia
I just have too much time on my hands! Posting here keeps me out of trouble!
Welcome back 😉

Hi Julia

Sometimes I’m almost posting in my sleep LOL.

But like Janet it keeps me out of trouble. And believe it or not it helps me unwind from a stressful day job.

Hi, thanks to lynne, bill, julia, janet, sunnyb and bez, your signatures have sent the petition into the checking phase. You have all responded so quickly 🙂

Julia when Bill, lynne, penny, janet and myself go to sleep the wonderful cherrieanne takes over from Australia! 🙂

Great news Judith.

Just think of all the people who could be helped if this was put into action. Lives improved and, ultimately, lives saved by getting the right advice. At much less cost and with considerably fewer side effects than from the medications they want to push into us.

😃

Yes, lynne, it should really reach a lot of people. I’m going to add info about the book on Facebook. You have to be careful not to ‘advertise’ on the government petitions site or you get rejected. 🙂

Great news Judith.

I’m on Facebook too Judith, if you want to ‘friend’ me.

You folks are amazing in how quickly you’ve started the ball rolling! Congratulations. Now I’m thinking about how best to get the info out there too.
I know my GP is very interested and has promised to read the book and check out the forums. Our problem in Australia is that health care can vary from state to state, with two layers of government, Federal and State. Some health iniatives are Federal projects, others are state run and then we have local government programmes. Might have a chat with our local OPAL ( obesity prevention and lifestyle) coordinator and see if she can point me in the right direction.

Cherrianne, it will be same for our American friends when they start to come on board. All we can do is our best, beating the BSD drum whenever and wherever we can. Great idea about your local OPAL coordinator. Funnily enough, I’ve got someone coming soon who works for the NHS advising people on healthy lifestyles (food and exercise). Last time we met was just as I started this back in December. I think she might be surprised 😃

That’s great Lynne, she won’t be able to ignore the evidence of her own eyes.
It will be hard to get anyone on board if it means going against government policy but I’m hoping the OPAL lady will know who or where to start the ball rolling with.

Hmm, you seem to be pushing the same barrow as a previous poster! Maybe you’ve returned under a different user name? Ignoring the results published by Prof Taylor, whose work Dr Moseley based his book on. The results were replicated by the CSIRO in Australia in a different study, and recently published. I think the narratives on here speak for themselves and it’s only early days yet.
“There’s none so blind as those who will not see….”

Happyslappy I take it you are a medical professional who specialises in Diabetes ?
No ?
Thought not.
Where do you get off coming onto a support forum for a diet that is helping thousands of people and bad mouth it.
As Cherrianne says you are in the same boat as a previous poster, coming on here to push your own agenda.
Post reported as it makes no useful contribution to the forums.
Keep the trolls out.

Well said Bill 🙂

Thanks Bill. Reported too.

Way I see it there are loads of people most of whom we don’t even know exist, who come to these forums out of desperation.
They may not post, but on average only 20% of forum visitors do
For someone to come on here (and this is probably organised) to bad mouth the diet and try to crush peoples expectations for no other reasons than financial ones is the lowest form of internet behaviour in my eyes.

Happyyslappy, your post is remarkably similar to a previous poster’s who seemed to be pushing the same line; so similar a line I suspect you are the same person. For what reason would you sign up to a forum following this diet if you don’t have any belief in it, unless of course you had your own agenda.

If you bothered to read the information you would discover that this diet also works for diabetics who are TOFIs.

As. Cherrieanne has already said, you seem to be ignorant of the fact that Dr Mosley’s book is based on the work of Professor Taylor. Bill has questioned whether you are a member of the medical profession specialising in diabetes – I doubt you are too. Have you carried out years of clinical trials like Professor Taylor? I very much doubt it.

So please stop pouring scorn on something you clearly do not understand. There are people on these forums making enormous changes to their health and they do not need your negativity.

If Bill hadn’t reported your post I most certainly would have done.

Thanks Bill and Cherrieanne for replying to happyslappy’s post. I have just woken up and seen it.

Wow, cherrieanne you have the bit between your teeth too! It does sound more difficult in Australia, almost sounds like you need a pioneer like yourself in each state! Rock on girl 🙂

I decided to report happyslappy’s post as well.

Wow lynne I reported it too, and thankyou again for your support. I was surprised when I saw the post and so pleased to see the rapid responses from Bill, Cherrieanne and yourself.

I would like to be facebook friends, it might be easier for you to find me as my surname is more unusual in the northeast 🙂

We can’t let trolls like happyslappy (name says it all really) hijack the forum, so I too reported the post. Hopefully many others will too, because we need to send out the message loud and clear, that this behaviour is not wanted, not warranted and not acceptable. We are a support group and for the positive, so there is no place here for the negativity of trolls.

Bill I totally agree with what you have said about the motive behind that post is being financially driven.

You have got to think there are some people out there who are concerned they will not make money if this way of living spreads like wildfire. The fact that they can be worried enough to plant negative posts suggests they believe it will. The old silver lining ?

Very well said and well done Sunnyb 🙂

Hi Judith
I did look on FB for you but there are a few with your name on there so I didn’t want to contact the wrong one.
If you like I can mail you my FB id

Can I be your Facebook friend as well Bill?

Hi Bill, and here’s me thinking my name was a bit unusual!! Yes please, I would send you mine if I knew how!!! 🙂 I can’t find Lynne either! 🙂

Hi all,

Well said everyone and I reported it too.

I’ve just dropped a post into a UK business forum that I am a member of mentioning the diet and petition
I don’t know how many T2D’s use it but I know there are a few, there are also some very influential people who get on there from time to time
http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/threads/diabetes-boot-camps.356414/

The response should be interesting.

Hi guys, is the petition live yet – I can’t find it online?

Hi Orchid
It’s going through the checking phase.
As soon as she has it Judith will post the link, we did it by email just to get it to where it is now.

Hi hashimoto,Sharon, captainlynne bill1954 and others
I am not a medical professional not someone with an agenda
The reality is that even Prof Taylor cannot deny the facts that there is “no cure “for diabetes
I’m just an ordinary 72 year old who contracted diabetes in 2001 ,primarily as a result of bad lifestyle. Over indulgence in many parts of my life
I suffered severe depression for 2/3 years as I didn’t know how to deal with as my wife was type 1
I “starved” to keep my blood sugars in check as is being proposed in this diet
My GP (a friend as well as a doctor) , gave me, yes gave me the GL diet book by Nigel Denby and I haven’t looked back and I have not tested either blood or urine
My concern is that Dr Moseley on the Steve Wright show some 9 months ago said that having been warned by his doctor that he was diabetic, so he created the 5and 2 and he’d cured himself of diabetes. No he’s controlling it by way of diet or eating healthily as I do using the GL as a guide (not a bible)
Now the diet to beat all diets is the “blood sugar diet” . All I’m saying is that after some 5 books on the subject over as many years, they can’t all be best
So my question to Dr Moseley is, if I have followed the plan to eat healthily but not starving nor dyning myself of some of the joys of life (wine pasta rice dining out etc) then why not promote normal healthy eating. Its like the “sugar thing” , I have not taken sugar, salt in my food other than the addition in restaurants by the chefs, and I have drunk black sugarless coffee for 50 years. Yet I still contracted diabetes and will have it until I die
No blood sugar diet will reverse that TRUTH
So all I say to people just read the GL ,not the GI book and see for yourselves
I wis you all every success in what you are trying to achieve and I leave you with the quote that helped along the way , Henry James ” you never know what you can’t do until you try”

I wouldn’t normally waste my breath on no-marks like ‘happyslappy’ but the timing is just so perfect I couldn’t resist. I know that person doesn’t want to have an actual debate with us but its not just Dr Mosley as this quote taken from an article yesterday shows;
The study, published today in Diabetes Care, is the latest research from world-renowned Professor Roy Taylor, Professor of Medicine and Metabolism at Newcastle University, who also works within Newcastle Hospitals.

The research is part of a growing body of evidence showing that people with Type 2 diabetes who successfully lose weight can reverse their condition because fat is removed from their pancreas, returning insulin production to normal.

In yer face happyslappy!

Thanks to Rozydozy for the link in another thread.

Happyslappy
You and I were clearly writing our posts at the same time as yours was not there when I was composing mine. Thank you for taking the time to come back to us with some background as to why you made the statements you did.

The fact remains that the majority of the people using this forum are achieving very positive results. Perhaps the book you mentioned has something to add to our knowledge base, I don’t know but we are always glad to look at adding to our knowledge here. You do not have to knock the work Dr Mosley is doing though.

Apologies from me too if you are genuine but saying as you used not only the same arguments, but almost the same words as a previous troll I think it was highly unlikely.
Not promoting the sort of food you mention and are happy to eat is down to insulin resistance, the stuff spikes our sugar levels – you should know that.
That still doesn’t explain why a 72 year old T2D who is apparently happy with his “healthy” lifestyle, should feel the need to search out and post on a support forum with the express intention of trying to stop people from using a diet that we all know works and get them to adopt another method. Perhaps I’m wrong and you have a blog that extolls the virtues of your preferred method, after all, your very presence here shows you must care about it. If so can we have a link ?
Personally I don’t believe a word of it. I’ll leave it to the rest of the forum to make their own decisions.

Call me a sceptic if you like folks but I’m with Bill on this one. Too similar to the previous poster advocating the same book. You have to wonder about the motives in knocking something you’ve never tried, but which is backed up by sound research from different well respected sources.

You only have to read these forums to see how well it does work!!

May I suggest that we expend no more energy on ‘happyslappy’ (and to be honest, I doubt very much that a 72yr old would choose such a handle). While we are wasting time and energy on this sad soul, we are not using it positively elsewhere – life is too short.

Amen to that sunnyb, my oopsi bread is in the oven. Haven’t got a clue how it will turn out!

Dear Janet 1973
Precisely as I’ve said
I have “lost” 3 stones in the past 11 years- yes that long
I am now described as “glucose intorerant ” , pre-diabetic but I have to continue as I’m doing or I’ll have to either go on a pill or the worst case senario Insulin
My consultant says to have type 2 diabetes for 15 years with no medication is something to be proud of as it seldom happens
If it works , more strength to your commitment but I would say in my defence is come back in 10 years and see if your control is still intact
Enjoy your forums but at the end of the day it is the individual’s choice and that’s what I have done

No problem Slappy. I wish you success on your own journey.

I’m not starving, hands up anyone who is ……
I don’t consider pasta, rice, or alcohol to be the pleasures in life
I do test blood and urine, if you don’t, how the hell can you say that you’re ok ?
Why hasn’t your doctor recommended the book to other patients and why aren’t we hearing from them ?
If your consultant thinks you’re so remarkable, why hasn’t HE recommended your method to others and why haven’t we heard from THEM
You seem to have an axe to grind with Dr Mosely as that is the only reason I can think of why a 72 year old T2D would first, bother to look for this forum, pick a teenagers facebook name as in happyslappy, and then go ahead and try to discredit everything that every user on here has achieved.
I won’t give you the respect of replying again, your story is so full of holes I am finding it hard to believe you when you say Hi

You have all made comments about the declaration made yesterday about volouteers for NHS and notes of “lose weight and excercise ” as if it is Rubbish as the blood sugar is the perfect solution
All practicioners, professors consultants would agree the “lose weight and exercise ” is the easiest and most of beneficial for all. -even Prof Taylor
I do not test because I have had the support of an excellent medical practice to archieve the goals
Not rocket science, just plain common sense of which I was sadly lacking in my days of over indulgence

Thanks Bill and others for doing this. Anyone got contacts with the Newcastle folks to alert them to it’s existence – my be a few more votes!

Oops, just seen the string……my reply to Bill was about the petition info, this thread seems to have been hijacked a bit 🙂

Hi Orchid, it could take a week for the petition to go live as they will check that it is fully compliant before they make it available again 🙂

Thanks for that Judith. I was going to ask how long it would take.

Silly question time: if they decide it’s not compliant, can it be amended or do we have to start again?

Hi lynne, not sure but if they reject it they give a reason so I am thinking that it would be possible to rewrite. Fingers crossed 🙂