Hi all on this thread

I have just got past a real temptation, I made scones today for my daughter and husband and three of her four boys, who are coming tonight for the weekend, I also made a chocolate cake, however it was the scones that got to me, I could quite happily have buttered one and put jam on, then of course eaten it, what did I do? I put them away in the tin, (husband and second daughter had one each) and left the kitchen! Phew I don’t know how I didn’t succumb, must be careful this weekend my eight weeks are up on Sunday so need to stay strong, I have not fallen off the diet ‘wagon’ in the eight weeks I’m sure I can get to the finish line, fingers and everything else crossed.

Cooked chicken cold, homemade coronation style mayonnaise
Raw smoked salmon and full fat cream cheese
Tuna mayo and sweetcorn
Omellette if you have a microwave to reheat

Hi Alan B
Have you thought of making the meals and freezing the second, third or fourth meal (depending how many the recipe is for ) that way you can build up a reserve for when you have no energy to cook or visitors, any reason really, I often cook recipes that are for more than I need, then I freeze the spare meals, worth a try?

Kathy, have you checked the calories in that breakfast? We had it last week and I felt a bit guilty as it seemed a bit much. Checked it out and it’s only about 360 kc. So we had it again this morning!
Dinner was a small bowl of coconut prawn curry with Barenaked frogspawn and a couple of strawberries and blueberries with a spoonful of yoghurt (I’m addicted).

My intake today
B. Poached egg, grilled bacon, tomato and mushrooms
D. Chicken tikka, mushroom Baji and salad

Had breakfast at 10 and dinner at 6

Hargsi,
I started with Shakes, 3 first week plus veg soups, 2 for part of second week and then one towards the end of that week. I then went onto real food as soon as I knew I was fine with 800 a day. I used the powders – Slender Shake from Boots – 30g plus 250ml skimmed milk – 205cals per meal. I was losing weight, but nothing from my waist. I then realised the carbs were high and since it was skimmed milk – no fat either. I changed to Oatwell powder which is lower in carbs and higher in protein. I used skimmed milk again, but it probably would have worked better with full fat milk. I did try a couple of the body builder made up drinks, but they were awful so I moved onto real food full time.
If I were starting again, I would just take a couple more days before starting to get the fridge and freezer full of soups plus full fat Greek yoghurts, humus etc. That works just we well. When I was organised and I commuted to London I used to take my own soup (frozen) into the office, plus fruit. It would be a little defrosted by lunchtime, so it went into the microwave for 20 mins – instant meal full of goodness. When I was disorganised – it was the nearest sandwich shop plus cake and skinny lates – thus the weight issues :-(.

Lucia, your blister is called Fred? A friend of my son’s called his ‘the baboon’! You two have something in common! 🙂

B- plain yog/10 cherries/flaked almonds
L-small egg salad
D-small bowl beef/veg stew (frozen leftovers from few days ago)

2apples/cups of tea

Hi,
Spelt it related to wheat, both are in the family Triticum, but different species. It is over 9000 years old and went out of favour when we started going for very white breads. It is a smaller grain than the modern wheat and does not have the bran and germ removed, so keeps more goodness and has a higher protein content! It contains lower gluten and some people with a mild gluten intolerance may be able to eat it.
I classify it along with rye and barley. Full of good things, off limit on the 800 – but one to bring in on the 5:2. Like rye and barley it will release the carbs in a slower manner than modern wheat.
I thought I had some spelt in the cupboard, but looks like it went out last year when the mice invaded….. I did find some spelt and rye flour which might help Bill in understanding it.
It is 65% wholemeal spelt and 35% light rye flour mixed.
Per 100g – 340 cals. Fat – 2.5g; Protein 10.9g; Fibre 11.7g and the important one – Carbs 62.5g of which 2.1g are sugars.

This website explains a bot about it – ignore the ads. It was a better description than Wikipedia.
http://thespeltbakers.ca/what-is-spelt/

Hi lucia, absolutely!!! It feels like we have all shared our highs and lows and made real connections. I never tbought I would think that!

Yeh, we are a little family 🙂

Hi spirit,

When I drive, the road I go down, I have gentlemen trying to get into the boot as they don’t like me driving at 50 mph which is the speed limit on that road.
There are a few roundabouts, so to stop men blowing gaskets, I go around the roundabout twice, then carry on. This allows them to overtake me safely.
I drive slightly further, but to prevent situations.

When I walk, my path never goes in a straight line, I cross over the road, to nose in people’s gardens, then cross back over as I walk down the road. You get more steps per road.
I now go the long way, rather than the short way.
I get off the bus three stops later and three stops easier every journey. More to walk.

As I am losing my marbles, how many times have I walked into the kitchen/bedroom and forgotten what I went in there for. So I came back only to remember and go again.

Now you see why my shoes blow up?

The swelling has gone down around my blister. I put a plaster on it and keeping it very clean. I may call my blisfpter Fred, but I understand our relationship will be hopefully short lived.
Do any of you have pet blisters

Pork chop and egg for tea, nice dippy egg, mmmmmmmmmm

Love Lucia
Xxxx

How long have we been together now?
I feel as though i have known you lot for decades.
Do you feel the same way about our little family?
Love Lucia
Xxxxx

Hi gang,
Just got home,
So you want me to wear sexy blister socks, whilst putting a bar of soap in the bed, while I excrete potassium, riding my bike eating strawberries.
Well gang, you are all as insane as me ,!!!!!.

What will the bare of soap do in the bed other than make marks on my sheets? Skid marks on the sheets, it will look as through I have pooh-ed my self. 😊
I think bananas have potassium, so I will be pooh-ing bananas.😊🙂
Sexy socks, it was me trying just to get home with a broken heel, I couldn’t take my shoe off as my estate is like a. Minefield. If you know what I mean, it’s bad enough treating them like roundabouts.😊😊😊
I love you all, I hope we all stay together until I am a size eight.
Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi deb, enjoy the snow!!! 🙂

Friday Funday! Also it’s Day 5 🙂

I’m still a bit head-achy, but I am not hungry – so that’s a win =)

I am waiting until Sunday to weigh myself. I find if I do it every day I get too caught up in the numbers. Fingers crossed for a good result!

Have a great weekend everyone! They’re forecasting snow for us! Today is 12C though, lol

I love Spring – I really do.

Cheers,

Deb

Hi DJDAussie,
Just making an assumption from your name, but if you are Australia based, check out the Herman Brot bread at 2.3g carb per slice. Their website will list suppliers near you.

Hi Bill1954
As you say, the shakes themselves are low in fat. Each one only has 1.3g of fat so in total that is 4g per day. However I make up for it when I have my daily portion of humous which gives me 16g. Thankfully I am not a natural carb eater anyway so tend not to crave them. I am much more of a caveman (cavewoman), preferring meat, fish and cheese. In my opinion bread is only there to stop your ham falling on the floor! 😉 however I am keen to see this through to the end and I want to limit my opportunities to slip.
I will see how I get on this week and will bear in mind the advice about possibly beginning to crave carbs. I also take on board what Pam1954 says about retuning my stomach. Hopefully as long as I am aware of the pitfalls I can make the appropriate changes. And of course, if I don’t make much headway in my experimental third week then I may change my approach again.
I think it is this experimental approach which is keeping me focused at the moment. I had better watch out when the novelty wears off!

Will do Hashimoto.

Thanks Penny.

Congratulations Bill. 🙂 And you are right! I should just be happy that everything is going in the right direction.

Recipe by pmshrink
Time needed: 5 minutes
Calories per serving: 115 including oil on pan ( plain + soya milk option )
Servings: 4 servings of 4 each
Difficulty: 1
Rating: 5.00 based on 3 reviews

Am I being really dumb???

I only got 4 drop pancakes…. So is it 115 for all 4 or one is 115 calories

Confused!! As they are really nice but may have blown calories

Hi wannbe, welcome to the forums!

Get organised with food for shift work:
Packed lunches

Hummus and crudites
No carb ploughmans
Fage full fat yoghurt and small amount of seeds
Any kind of salad
2 boiled eggs and small piece of cheese
Fritatta

If you have a wide necked flask – soups

🙂

Kathy – a big welcome! 🙂

I am keen to get started with BSD but I start a new placement on Monday which means shift work. With the only certainty being my start time I really don’t know what to do. If anyone can give me advice on how to manage shifts I would be so thankful.

Fran I was a bit like you in the first week – but I wasn’t eating enough full fat.

Hang on in, it DOES get better 🙂

Same happens to me buxtonmick! I liked your previous post at 17.11 !!:)

I am very interested in this bread recipe , I have been googling a lot today trying to find a low carb bread recipe! I am going to be changing from the 800 cals to 50g carbs a day soon – can anyone work out approx how many carbs a slice this would be?

I type so slowly that whenever I post a reply at least five others have already posted! Kathy54 (you don’t look a day over 40!) we’re all on the same adventure here and lean on (and learn from) each other every day. The more shoulders the merrier – welcome, and keep updating with progress and problems!

Hi Bruno
Fantastically well done!! That’s a lot of weight you ve lost.
Congratulations.
Penny

Hi bruno, great results. We’ll see you on the 8 week line and over thread! Welcome! 🙂

Hi everyone,
That’s me completed 8 weeks and I’ve lost a total of 35 lbs (two and a half stone !!!!). Very pleased with the results, I’m feeling a lot healthier and looking a lot slimmer, my friends (both of them 🙂 ) have commented on how much better I look.
I want to lose the same again. I’ll not do this over the same period, but I’m sticking to this type of eating as it’s now becoming normal and I enjoy my meals.
That’s the first time in my life I’ve not had an Easter Egg (or two or six). My wife bought me one and it’s still in the dining room unopened. Once I get down a bit more I’ll have the odd treat, like a bit of my Easter egg from the dining room 🙂
So far I’ve lost around 4 inches from my waist and around 7 inches from my stomach.
Keep up the good work everyone, it’s great to read your posts. Don’t let it get you down when your weight loss stops for a few days, it happens to us all, think of it long term and how you’ll feel and look in a few weeks time.

Starving – ah, that takes me back…! Fran, and everyone starting or considering doing so, the really big thing about this lark is that it is HARD! One of the problems in the initial trials was actually finding participants that would be sufficiently motivated to see it through (several fell by the wayside). The first three days are very trying – your body screaming at you “where’s the carbs?! I’m suffering man!!!”. But then things gradually settle. Your body forages elsewhere for sustenance and hopefully finds the reserves of fat, and then (the whole point of this adventure) starts using the fats and sugars around your organs, notably the pancreas and liver. If you’re checking your blood glucose it will start doing all manner of crazy stuff now! Stick with it and at the very least you’ll be giving yourself a great chance of a longer healthier life and I promise you’ll feel great about yourself soon.

Welcome on board Kathy54. Sounds like you are doing really well and we will look forward to reading about your results as you progress. I have found the forum threads hugely helpful when needing advice or support, so make the most of them and shout out if you are struggling – someone will be there to offer advise and kind words.

Hi All for me it is day 5 and I have lost 4lbs so far and feel good. I hope you do not mind me joining you but you all seem very supportive.

Thanks SunnyB. I thought the Doritos may have been pushing it a little. I probably only want them because they’re the only treat in the house. Will keep on avoiding them 🙂

Hi Purple Marian

You are doing great, avoiding the temptation of the choccie treats! Doritos with avocado sounds tempting too, but probably best avoided – especially at this stage in the game. The idea of the BSD is to retrain you pallet, so that you no longer want the things listed, so best to avoid them until your body no longer wants them. Why not make yourself some sesame crackers to have with the avocado – or have it sliced with salad and smoked salmon.

Hope to see you posting great results soon.

Unfortunatley the carbs in bread, pasta, rice, and potatoes are the simple carbs, the bad ones.
We should be trying to cut them out and eat complex carbs instead.

I’m struggling to hit 30g a day, but feeling fine. I make my own shake with almond milk, berries, cream cheese or yoghurt and that keeps me going while at work. Started work at 10 today and there is still a third of the shake to go before I finish tonight and start thinking about dinner.

Maybe not, I did some more googling and it turns out that the carbs are the complex type so maybe not so bad as they sound.

Leeks are great fried off with some butter or olive oil. They can even be sweated off and then finished in the oven with a little cream and chees – au gratin style. I made some for a family dinner recently and it was delicious!

Sorry Lucia, I may be odd but I’d rather have the strawberries than captain jack- no accounting for taste!

In relation to your leg cramps, I remember getting serious leg pains when I tried the Atkins diet many moons ago and was told this was due to excreting a lot of potassium with the weight loss so having more potassium rich foods may help.

If you are getting bored with the diet the harissa chicken is gorgeous, spicy and very filling, the bolognaise again feels like normal food, the chicken and pea pilaf lovely and low cal so you can add to it, spicy chicken and lentils is really filling, also done the spicy bean burgers and the beetroot falafels.

Variety is the spice of life, hope you enjoy your new cooking adventure, have a good weekend and look after your blister.

Hi Fran. I’m glad I’m not the only one who is finding the 2nd day harder then the 1st! I started yesterday and quite enjoyed all the lovely fresh salad. I felt super hungry when I woke this morning though (probably due to no evening snacks 🙂 ) and today has been a bit tougher than yesterday. I was v.proud of myself for giving my children a chocolate treat and not treating myself too :-D. I’m a little confused by what I can eat though. If I eat carbs, but stay under the 50g limit and eat less than 800 calories, is this OK? So far I’ve completely abstained from bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, crisps and chocolate (!) but could I eat a little? I have an avocado that needs eating and I’d love some Doritos to go with it 🙂 Thanks!

Karra, sorry but I agree with Bill. Look in the what I ate today thread someone made chilli beef and used gram/coconut flour. Can’t exactly remember but you could look at that and adapt the recipe to avoid the bread crumbs 🙂

70g carbs sounds very alarming, but that’s for the flour, I think? According to my google “research” spelt bread is around 15-20g carbs per slice, depending on which flour you use. It’s also one of the lowest GI breads and because it’s mixed with a fair bit of rye, that reduces the GI even further.

Still not a good choice for super-low carbing though – I am maybe just hanging on to old bad habits trying to include it in the fast 800! I probably should do without it and re-introduce it later on 5-2 or Med diet.

Leeanne – what a change! Fabulous! Doesn’t sound like your top will fit for long! 🙂

Jps if it doesn’t spike your blood sugars it might be the same for others. If I wasn’t so gluten intolerant I’d try it myself 🙂

Elvis, wow you really are organized!!!

jpscloud, you may have found the golden recipe, don’t knock it until someone says that they tried it and it spiked them.
In fact, if I can work out what spelt is, I just may have a go myself.

*Edit*
Amount Per 100 grams
Total Carbohydrate 70 g
Dietary fiber 11 g
Sugar 7 g

Hi Elvis

I like the sound of your meal plan as you seem to have the same tastes as me in food.
Can I ask whether you’re just randomly putting breakfast/brunch/lunch/dinner together each day ?

I’d like to use your meal plan so if you could let me know how you decide the combination of meals each day, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks
Carolyn

Thanks DJD… and best of luck to us all 🙂