Thanks everyone. The medics want me in the middle of the BMI for my height, so 9st 7 lbs. Cherrianne’s site gives my ideal weight as 10st 3 lbs, an extra 10 pounds. 😃 Going for that means I have another 38 pounds to go 😃 So I am over halfway there! YIPPEEE.

She has reason to be pleased, not only with the weight loss but by the fact that you have taken a grip of your condition and decided to do something about it.
If you were just diagnosed 9 weeks ago that was probably your first HbA1c test so you have nothing to compare it with.
Your next one, be it 3 months or 6 months down the line, should tell a very different story.
Congratulations on becoming a veteran, it looks like a fair few of us are going to be around for a while yet

Hi Darleen and Rosie, glad you’ve got books and are now sounding a bit more confident. You’re off to a great start! Lots to learn and re- learn eating this way but in a few weeks you’ll be helping the new ones too.
Any time you find a good low carb food, post it on the ‘low carb foods in Australia’ thread. If we can keep it near the top, then it will be easier for other Aussies to find 🙂

Well my fridge looks healthy it’s very green
Fizzy waters chilling, I’ve made to many spicy bean burgers and tried to tackle my new spirilser. I tried my new pedometer on my feet all day walked the dogs did the garden still only achieved only 4000 steps.
Drinking my last glass of wine for 8 weeks
My motto is don’t give up and don’t give in
Watch this space x

Hi Caroline999
Welcome to the BSD forums – sorry to hear you are doing it tough right now. Carb withdrawal hits some people worse than others unfortunately. Are you including enough fat in your diet? This is essential to help you feel full and satisfied. There is no reason not to take painkillers if you need to for your headache, but this too will pass as your body adjusts to the new eating regime.

Hope your body gets used to the BSD regime soon and you can settle down and enjoy this new way of eating. Look forward to reading more positive posts from you soon.

Hi everyone, I started the BSD this morning and would appreciate your support. I have 2 girls ( 9 and 13 ) who come home for a cooked lunch everyday ( no school dinners in Switzerland 🙁 ) and I’m worried I’ll cave in having to make their meals everyday. I am very motivated at the moment but would love to hear all your tips to survive the next 8 weeks. I’m originally from Bolton, Uk, but have lived in Switzerland for almost 25 years. I am not diabetic, but have a 41 inch waist and feel like I’m heading that way! I would rather do something about it now before…..

Caz,are you having a decent amount of fat in your breakfast and lunch ?
If not, try it, fat does help to keep those feelings of hunger away.

Over the 8- Week line and still going strong. Determined to do this diet until I get down to ‘normal ‘weight zone. Not sure how long it will take me to get down to a healthy BMI. Only lost 1lb this week but as hubby said, if I carried on at that rate I would lose over 2 stones in a year. Note to self …..that sounds too long……and surely he doesn’t think I need to lose over 2 stones….oops he may be right!!
Saw the Diabetic Nurse yesterday and asked loads of questions. Diagnosed Type 2 just over 9 weeks ago so a bit of a Newbie
She was pleased with the weight loss of 21lbs but I was really disappointed with with my HBA1c result of 7.2%
Realized later that the result would have only recorded 7 weeks of being on the BSD and Metformin.
Looking forward to better results in the future, losing more weight and coming off medication, if possible.
Still feeling positive.
Hope our positive attitudes and results motivate other people to persevere with their diets. Good luck everyone.

Chinagas – thanks for sharing your experience. I’m guessing that you stick to the 800 as well as much exercise?
Good willpower. I found over years of exercise that you have to enjoy it to keep going. I’m now down to 3 days of spin followed by 50 mins of gym for strength and then a warm down swim. I am also reading Fast Exercise so on my rest days thinking of doing a couple of 10 minute HIIT sessions on my Concept 2 rower [parked in the hall and less used nowadays] as another ‘experiment’, with an occasional bike ride for fun. I too was carb heavy and believed that if I did enough exercise the world and me would be in balance!
Congrats on the 6kg in 5weeks to you both.

I eat 3 meals a day – I hate not having breakfast, I would never get anything done if I did that! I don’t have an issue with the same breakfast each day – so the yogurt, blueberries and seeds works for me. The proportions I use give me a 205 cal start to the day which leaves 600 for my other two meals. Lunch is usually a salad and soup. Soups (homemade) vary between 120 cals to 200. Blitzed soup take longer for your stomach to digest so leaves you feeling full longer. The salad is cucumber, tomato, spring onions, all chopped up an mixed together, add balsamic or drizzle olive oil. I sometimes add 20-25g feta cheese to the salad if the soup is at the lower end of the calorie range. That leaves me 350 cals for the evening meal.
good luck

Nice one Chinagas, it looks like you have this going like a breeze.
Hope you hit your eventual target even if it takes a wee bit longer.
Your comment, wish I had done this sooner rings a chord. I wish it had been around 10 years ago, I could have side stepped so many problems if it had.

I turn to tea or coffee (7 cals as I have milk). I tried the 10 cal Hartleys jelly pots too which were sweet but gave me the runs so I gave up!!

Hi ruthleonie, sorry to hear of your diagnosis. You have made a good plan to continue until your doctors tell you otherwise. You will go into surgery much healthier and with better recovery if you are closer to your ideal weight.
Pay close attention to your protein levels between now and then to make sure you are getting plenty. Eat from a good range of vegetables, especially the leafy greens, and include eggs and nuts to make sure you are getting enough vitamins and zinc. Maybe even a multivitamin with zinc, to help with post op recovery.
If you need chemo you will most likely find you lose some weight anyway, so you can afford to relax the diet. Michael does say not to do the BSD if you’ve recently had surgery. The nutritionist will help you with food choices, and your weight will be closely monitored during treatment.
Wishing you all the best for a speedy recovery and return to good health 🙂

Hi bizzylizzy

I tried this last week: http://www.hi-lo-bread.co.uk/ from Sainsburys and it’s actually very good. It can be frozen and tastes good at 5g per slice. I don’t have a Waitrose or Morrisons near me but apparently the LivLife is better and even lower in carbs. I actually used two slices of this in place of the bun at Burger King with some mayo and other than the seeds it was a worthy opponent to the white seeded bun.

Carbwise this meal weighed in at 12g as opposed to 45! BTW I felt VERY full afterwards! LOL

Thanks Newlife, Orchid and Hashimoto…. that’s all really helpful. I’m having a bit of difficulty staying between 800 and 900 cals, and I notice that I’m eating 3 meals a day, where some are only having 2, so thought I would try to cut down on breakfast as I’m not really a breakfast person but need to eat something to stop the dreaded fasting sugar monster. I’m doing OK with the higher daily cal count in regards to weight loss and glucose levels but don’t want to slowly creep up on the calorie count and I can forsee myself doing that. Ps not sure what fage is, Hashimoto, is ita brand or type of Yoghurt? Dx

Hi chris53
I don’t know if 10 days will be enough time. I had tests taken 4 weeks in to the plan and they showed a definite lowering of HbA1c levels so there may just be a pointer in your results.

Hello everyone, hope it’s ok for me to join in. I’m on day two and have a raging headache, it’s also only mid afternoon and I could eat my own arm I’m so hungry. Is there anything anyone suggests for getting through this? I felt the same yesterday, just hoping it won’t continue like this. Drinking more water than ever in my life so I don’t think it’s lack of fluid.

Cherrianne – What a great site. I love the idea behind it.

Interestingly it gave me near the weight I was in 1991. Where, I think, I felt most at home in my body.

It’s the number I was aiming for in my head.

Judith – 3.8 is awesome!

Deb

Hi chris53,
They’re usually done less frequently than that but if you’ve been monitoring your blood sugars and seen them drop, then there should be a change in your HbA1c. Remember it’s an average measure of about 90 days of blood sugar levels, so it will include the time before you started. So if it’s not a huge decrease don’t be too disappointed. Keep up the good work though as the next one will be even better. 🙂

Great going chinagas!!!!

Ooooh, river cruise and dolphins!!!! I want to see it!

This diet seems to sort a lot of problems!!!! 🙂

That’s a coincidence Judith, my Mum and I were just saying the same thing today. Neither of us get that anxious, jittery feeling or dizziness anymore if a meal is late.
Today my sister, parents and I went on a 1&1/2 hr dolphin cruise up the Port River. We had planned to go on the 11.30 one to be back in reasonable time for lunch. We then saw a huge party of school children, around 50 of them, on a school trip about to board the boat. We knew it would be really noisy and busy so decided to wait for another boat which left at 12. By the time we needed to return we hadn’t seen any dolphins so the Captain said he would continue a bit longer. So we didn’t get lunch until after 2 o’clock. Breakfast had been at 7, but we were both fine with that. A huge change for us.
Yes, we did get to see dolphins ( knew you’d ask Judith). The river is a dolphin sanctuary and home to about 30 of them. Lovely day, 28C, cheap day out the equivalent of about £4 and we’ve never failed to see the dolphins yet. Recommend it to anyone visiting Adelaide.

I know, I was a bit stunned! I had even eaten a fairly large apple the day before.

I just know I feel better than I have for a decade and no blood sugar crashes like I used to get 🙂

I’m now into my 5th week of the BSD 800. So far have lost just under 6 kgs. My wife and I started together and so far she has recorded a similar weight loss. I have been type 2 diabetic for around 18 months and at the time of diagnosis weighed in at 82 kgs with a bmi of 29 then aged 55. I ‘ve been a vegetarian for around 25 years, ate dairy products and fish. One of those people that exercised on and off (a run here, a bike ride there etc) loved all the wrong kind of food… potatoes, bread, cereals. We joined a gym back in November and have been going regularly 5 days a week since then. Do a whole range of stuff in the gym from spinning, yoga, HIIT, weights and aerobics just to keep things varied. The weight is coming down, the paunch is slowly disappearing and I’ve never felt fitter. The diet is going good too. I used MyFitnessPal to record everything and most of the time keep to the 800 calories. Breakfast is full fat yoghurt with 4 strawberries. Lunch can be a salad with either tuna, sardines or mackerel. Not much of a dinner as we do the gym in the evening after work so invariably just a low cal snack. Target weight is 70kgs. At the end of the 8 weeks, we’re going onto the 5:2 Med Diet and the gym membership is there for a year. Wished I had done all this sooner, actually enjoying every minute of it. Going to try out some of these recipes over the coming weeks.

Judith 3.8 on a FBS ?
Given that we now consider normal to be between 4 and 5, a FBS of 3.8 is incredible.
Very well done, no hypos please.

I was going really well for the first few days of the 800 / day but the last couple of days have been HARD. I’ve been hungry mid morning and mid afternoon and so tempted by snacks.
I’ve been having a handful of almonds to satiate myself but they’re so high in calories that when I have my evening meal, my 800 gets blown out of the water.
Is there anything that I can eat between meals that will fill me up without blowing out my caloric intake?

Thanks

Hi all,
I liked the site best because it was based on what real people think is their ideal weight. Not some boffin who has failed to take ageing into account. It’s only a guide really, because we are our own best judge of what is happening with our blood sugars, and where we think we look and feel our best.

Hi again everyone. My recent HbA1c two weeks ago was 6.9 hence why l am on this diet. The question is my doctor apart from other blood tests wants a repeat and next week after 10 days on this diet would there be a changes in this result.Thank you.

Tomato and butterbean is another good soup. I used to blitz it when serving to people who don’t like butterbeans lol – they never realise!!! 🙂
Yeah, I always start soups with onion and garlic too!

Well,I got a basic result back from my FBS test – 3.8. That’s a less than the 4.9 to 8 I was getting back in 2011 when I was tested. I wish I had had the test done before this diet as I am sure it would have been much higher as I was piling on weight on fresh air lol
upshot – I think this diet has had a helpful impact on my blood sugars. I don’t get those crazy dizzy hungry spells I used to get. 🙂

Cherrianne that ideal weight calculator says I need to lose another 8 lbs!! That will take me to 8stones 8lbs – near where I was aiming!! (i.e. 8st 12lbs) Oh well, onwards and downwards!! 🙂

Thanks Patsy, but Sweetheart is doing all the cooking this week so not heading kitchen wards often enough. I remember my Mum doing that and she had fantastic skin. So there are extra advantages. Thanks Cherrianne, (and Bill), but I am allowing myself 60mls of skimmed per day. So either two brown coffees or 1 beige one and I am adding a sweetner and it’s my sweet treat, if I’m good. I need to practise not drinking lots of milk because if I have what I want, it comes to a pint and a half a day! So I’m going practically cold turkey on this one. Yes I know I need the calcium but I get loads!

Hi FiFiP

Thanks for that. I wasn’t actually concerned too much about the 26 calories but I was more confused about why I hadn’t gained any calorie intake for the rest of the day by using non-fat yogurt and light cranberry juice. I was expecting the calorie count to come out lower than the book but instead it came out higher so I was concerned that the book calorie count was incorrect and if that was incorrect, then were there anymore that were wrong.

I am trying to stick quite strictly to the diet but there are things that I just can’t eat so some swaps are necessary and I want to ensure that I don’t go too far over the 800/day because some counts are not correct.

I’ve only just begun this and I don’t want to scupper myself in the first week. I am staying away from the carbs though.

Thanks again

Absolutely bizzylizzy. I can’t be the only one hiding all the bread etc at the bottom of the chest freezer and the biscuits and bars at the back of the cereal cupboard with lots of half open packets of non tempting things in front of them! Thanks Hopeful and Bill1954, Morrison’s here I come. I am really missing bread and am prepared to faff around just for 1 slice with butter. Funny I thought it would be the fruit or the low fat dairy that would sabotage me, and they haven’t …yet!

Interesting cherrianne
that gives me 12 stone 5 pounds, much nearer to what I feel comfortable at.

Thank you Cherrianne – excellent site, very helpful as I think BMI belongs in the same deep hole as sugar…..

Hi lynne have you tried the nhs healthy weight, bmi calculator? It takes variables such as age, gender, exercise levels, height etc into consideration. It is the one your practice will use.

Sianyb well done 🙂

Hi Lea71
Welcome! I can crave sweets at night and what I have had the last two nights is a small bowl with a couple of tablespoons of coconut yoghurt and a few blueberries and raspberries…eat it with a teaspoon … very yummy 😏

Hi Lynne,
There is an ideal weight range calculator at halls-md/ideal-body/weight.htm
You type in your age, height and gender, and it will give you a weight that most people in your age group consider to be ideal.
I think it is a bit more realistic than other sites which often have a 20 kg range. The site shows my ideal weight to be above my actual weight and I’m not skinny! I agree with the others though, the weight that you’re happy with and which enables you to keep your blood sugars in the non diabetic range, is the ideal weight for you. We all have a ‘personal fat threshold’, the place at which our fat levels are sufficiently low enough to enable us to eat well and maintain good blood sugar control. For some it may mean staying quite light, for others a loss of 10% body weight will be enough.

Hi JWS!

All my soups start with garlic & onion fried gently in a little olive oil. I now use stock instaed of milk as the fluid.

Try:

pea & watercress or spinach
Tomato & basil
Beetroot & butter bean (or cannellini )
Mushroom & thyme
Spicy bean ( any old cans of beans will do) chilli to taste, add cumin, cayenne & oregano along with celery
Curried celery with lentil
Onion and almond (modified Spanish recipe)
Aubergine & mozzarella

You can tell I like soup…….

Got a brilliant book some years ago called The Complete Book of 400 Soups – I have just been altering & adapting the recipes to exclude off-plan ingredients. When we aren’t eating soup, we eat a lot of salad. Sick of salad but not soup!!!!

Hi jackiemac quite a few of us have posted to fb. The more people hear on tv and radio etc the more people will notice it on fb and vice versa.

At the mo the majority of people haven’t heard of the diet or think it’s just another fad diet.

The more noise we make the sooner we will be heard. 🙂

175 signatures now 🙂

Well done for starting. Plan meals ahead and make sure you have yogurt, berries and lots of veg in the fridge. I am trying all sorts of veg and my husband is delighted with the new varieties being brought into his diet now and he isn’t on the BSD ! Good luck and wait for the complements even after 1 week!

Well done thepolly and Bill! 🙂

Don’t worry Leeanne
If you were here I’d even let you prick my finger to show you 😉

I don’t really know the answer but I have heard someone mention optifast and also people have tried slim fast. Sometimes people have mentioned being hungry while having them which, for most people, isnt a problem after a couple of days on the bsd. Maybe if you are only planning to use them for a fortnight while you get organised, you should be ok. Alternatively, everyone here will help you get your head around the bsd if you decide to jump straight in.

Hi Bill, Yes I’m hoping it will sort itself. Damned blood sugars! Pesky readings! It’s frustrating though.

TWSAndy and MrsTWSA – I also started yesterday, after a few days practise.

I too cringe at ‘diet’, however a recent blood sugar reading after a recurring virus and associated illnesses gives me the motivation to reverse it asap. I prefer to think of BSD as a scientific experiment as per Michael Mosley’s documentaries, with me as the subject.

My wife is still working and finds it more difficult to not eat carbs as so much food outside of the home is carborific, hence some pre-planning seems essential. I [already] endorse Bill’s “keep the carbs under 50gr / day, eat full fat products, and drink at least 2 to 3 ltr of non sugary fluids / day”.

Good luck.

Djdaussie, if you get fage ff carton it contains 190 calories. 2 oz blueberries is 32 calories a total of 222 calories. If you get a large pot of different ff yoghurt you will need to calculate it. A teaspoon of flax seeds isnt very much.

A 2 egg omlette won’t come to many calories – about 180 for 2 large eggs and oil for frying 🙂

Hi CazP1965 – we have been having the no-carb Bircher most mornings, for all sorts of reasons. I use coconut water from Waitrose instead of apple juice (too sweet for me) & chop up 1/2 Apple into it (shared between the 2 of us) for texture. After the initial bigger weight loss, I am now losing a steady 2lbs a week, husband is more or less doing that too. We BSD for 5 days a week pretty strictly, but have significant work related commitments which tend to scupper the remaining 2 days, (but we do try hard, rejecting bread & desserts etc, wine is another matter….) despite this we are still losing fat & our tummies are diminishing.

I honestly wouldn’t get too worked up about 26 calories, 200 calories, yes, I’d need to balance out the ‘food-book’ but 26 in the great scheme of things isn’t going to cause havoc with your weight loss goals.

You might find an egg based brekkie suits you better, from what I have read in the postings there’s all sorts of adaptations & modifications going on, people are changing foods around, swapping, experimenting – but still sticking to the food group principles. If more protein floats your boat, then I’d go for it.