Haha Janet.
Google know everything!!
Penny

Help does anyone know the measurements my nurse uses to measure my blood sugar
It’s neither those on the meter they are all around 150 whatever that means ????
And what’s the equivalent in way we do it ???
Alan

Blushingida, who said you fell off the wagon?! I think you mean your trial run of a week came to an end and it was successful – you found exactly how hard it is going to be and now you will be prepared and ready. Steel yourself, now for the real thing!
Two points: be prepared for what you described, the recognised reaction called ‘catastrophic thinking’. You might succumb to a cake or chocolate so then immediately think that it’s over and scoff three more. It isn’t over, it’s just a blip so leave it at one cake or piece of chocolate and keep on track.
Second: IT IS HARD!!! Well done indeed for making the decision in the first place!

Hi orchid it’s a one off trip to australia, so chronic late onset asthma combined with bronchiectasis and multiple allergies is an issue esp on a long haul flight. Also got other medical problems, I was a bit shocked at how many when I had to list them. You just get on with life, I see myself as fit and healthy but obviously risk assessments don’t know me!!!
I’ll just have to bite the bullet or not go! And I’m definitely going! 🙂

Hi David, congratulations! If you are losing at this rate, do you need to get your carbs down lower? I have been losing at around 60g per day and am in fat burning mode.
I suspect with your exercise, and the evidence of weight loss and BS results you are already fat-burning.
The only way to get the carbs down is to record everything you eat and stop all pasta, rice, bread, beer, cakes etc and eat more fat in place of the carbs. Full fat yogurts and milk help, as do cheese. Also, if you are buying shop made foods, look carefully at the labels, they hide carbs in the strangest places! Lynn has an example of a whole chicken for sale covered in a sugar glaze.
Happy to help identify some foods to avoid if you give me some idea of the foods you normally eat.

Me too! The timing wasn’t really good, but I didn’t want to wait. I lost three kilos in two weeks, but then came Easter, two family birthdays, lunches out, a high tea. It felt as if people were trying to force feed me but it wasn’t sabotage, no one knew I was on this diet, it was just coincidence.
Things went a bit to pot over the next five weeks, although I kept trying to get back on my diet, and did the yo yo thing with the scales. I did manage to drop another kilo overall though, which is more than I would have without the diet.
I’ve decided to put all of that behind me and start the 8 weeks again from today. I’ve proven to myself that I can stick to it, and that it works. Only one more birthday dinner in May, so I should be able to make a fair go of it. Just put it behind you Blushingida, and start the 8 weeks again if you want to. I’m not going to be at goal in 8 weeks so am looking to extending the diet beyond that anyway. You’ll get lots of support and helpful advice here.
Good luck

Hawks, stick with it, we know plateaus are common even on this diet. I’ve read about the many times in the forums and mine lasted a week before I lost 4 and a half pounds last week. Go through your checklist, are you keeping a diary, getting enough water, fat and protein, cutting back on carbs and sweeteners. Can you get more exercise? Just one change can be enough to kick things off again

Hi Hashimoto, I can’t find the beginning of your thread on holiday insurance :-(. Is this a one off trip and within Europe and for how long? There should be better deals than that, I am surprised Saga is so high, they have a reputation for being fair!
Have you tried the Post Office? They were the only ones that would cover my brother who was in remission with cancer at a sensible price.

Penny, Google will know where you put your instructions?? 😉

Hi – we tend to forget that if food was scarce or of low quality and low nutritional value we would not have the option. We know that active adults require around 2000+ calories per day to stay at a constant weight depending on diet and exercise. We have the luxury of deliberately reducing our food intake in order to burn off our fat reserves. If BMI is still above 25 then would expect to have more fat to burn. If the health benefits are triggered by fasting then where is the problem if the remaining diet is balanced? I have done 10 weeks to get to the Normal range with BMI 26.2 but over that period I have changed my eating style and should no longer need to count the calories and sugar that got me here. We all knew “Eat less and move more” was the answer but we didn’t do it properly.

Hi Hashimoto, mosquitos and midgies just love me, and I always get bitten and they take ages to go. In the summer I head indoors in the evening and I close doors etc at dusk keep them out of the house! Before I go to bed I do a mozzie patrol with a rolled up newspaper and if I see one, I won’t go to bed till it is eliminated. If I have missed one, or one found the open bedroom window (have to have one window open) and I hear it, I wake up. That’s it – I wont sleep again till I have got it!
I can remember a holiday on the west coast of Scotland as a kid, my brother even got them in his hair (he is blood type AB), I was less badly effected, but still well nibbled and am blood type O.
There was a report on who attracts mosquitos on Spring Watch last year and one presenter was a ‘high’ attracter, one medium and one they ignored. I can’t remember the logic, it was not blood type but there is a genetic component that can be inherited.
My anti midgie cream is in my bag for my holiday to Orkney in 2 12 days, it should be too early for them, but if there is one awake there, it will find me :-).

You are a complete star Hashimoto always encouraging us all and yes very excited about test⭐️

Morning Hashimoto, thanks for reply. Did a bit of research on sources of Inulin and natural sources include asparagus, garlic, leeks, onion and wild yams amongst other veg – only fruit mentioned was bananas. So, can conclude that it’s all the flatulence inducing grub that does the trick. This could be bad news for me as this morning I have bitten the bullet – or should say swallowed the rocket and had some psyllium husks (in water with a water chaser) first thing and then about 6 gms of Inulin in some kefir (fermented milk) a couple of hours later. Have Pilates class booked for this afternoon……….could be interesting.

Red thanks for this post – I’ve been feeling such a failure after falling off the wagon in the third week. I’m still trying to find my way back but have come to the understanding that I am not going to find a straight road.

I am gearing myself up for a restart now too – good luck with yours, let us know how you get on.

Hello Skywalker , congatuations and I love your post, I found it helpful to hear the messages again and how they have worked for you. And a big hear hear on the spiraliser gadget, after two week of trying I sold mine on ebay! I have since found that Sainsburys sell spiralised veg in the fresh veg section. Do keep posting, My biggest concern is how to ensu re the weight loss is permanent – I have reached target on diets many times before only to gain it all again within a few months, it does sound too good to be true that all I have to do is keep to a mediterranean diet…

Hi john, I’m visiting my rellies in Oz soon and I am looking forward to a dip in the pool/sea. Like you I’ve been to embarrassed to don a cozzie for years too. It’s a good feeling to know we can swim again without fear and shame 🙂 🙂

Julia I was really stupid a few days ago. I was tidying my kitchen cupboards and was about to throw out a Christmas cake when I decided to have a sliver before binning (still in date). Thinking it can only have a tiny amount of flour as it’s so fruity. I am still paying for it with awful stomach cramps. I’ve been so well on this diet I thought I might get away with it. WRONG!!! 🙁

Julia, I was refused by the first company, so relieved when I got a quote from the second. For a split second. I saw it was almost £700!!! Could have given me a heart attack then I would have had something else to add to my list lol. Gee that quote is about the same price as a ticket to Oz!!!! 🙁

Off on my quarterly tuning tour of Devon and Cornwall Wed-Fri this week.
I have to spend one night in a hotel and have just noticed it has a pool.
For the first time in years I’m going to have a dip – I’ve been too ashamed to don a cozzie for years 🙂
Thanks to the Prof, Michael and all of you on the 24/7/365 “Support Team”

John

Judith – £397? Gulp! But it seems you are ahead of the game if you have gone straight to money saving expert. And sorry to hear of other problems which are clearly making the premium sky high.

Lucia et al – lovely morning in Edinburgh today following the snow and hail etc of the weekend. Pity I am stuck in an office today! Had a foul night’s sleep after just a half glass of red last night with friends who were round. The only other thing it might be is the slice of wholemeal spelt flour bread I indulged in (first bread in I don’t know how long). I think Christine and Judith have both noticed ill effects after deviating from BSD – but it was the first time I have noticed this. Of course, it may just have been the stimulating company but I had racing dreams all night and was up for a couple of hours at 2, unable to sleep. Have had my egg and lots of chai tea to keep me awake this morning.

Have a good day, all.

Purplepenguin and Beverley that’s good news from both of you! 🙂

Should be good results from that test Pp!

Hi Natalie – I have been wondering about reactions for a while. As a child I would have itchy lumps for a day or two. By 30s it was 2 or 3 weeks by 40 2 or 3 months – and the lumps are bigger and quite painful for a week or so. I’ve been with people who don’t even feel any bites so is that because they have no reactions?
When I lived in Oman one poor women developed, over time, a severe reaction to ant bites – the rest of us couldn’t even feel them.
My dad’s reaction could have been due to the fact he had malaria three times during the 2nd world war, his mozzie bites were horrendous and he often had a return of malarial fever during my early childhood.

Finally, 10th post on this thread after 10 weeks on the Fast800 I even took my watch off to get weighed today and sneaked into the BMI Normal category of Prime = 1.0 with a BMI of 26.2. That means I’ve lost 16 kg or 16.2% of my old body mass of 96.2. For the imperialists that’s 15 st 2 to 12 st 9 or 35.3 pounds of fat, shed since 8th Feb 2016. Now, I carry on but without counting every calorie & sugar. I never counted carbs. I just gave up bread & flour based products (very hard for me at first) and cut potatoes to an occasional treat of no more than 30 grams raw from a daily near 200 gms. This morning on waking and laid flat BP was 111/65 HR 52. It is sunny here on the East coast but cold. I feel relieved to have got out of the overweight category. I just have to set up camp here and stake a claim to my weight somewhere close by.
To everyone still marching towards their own place in the area of Normal – it has been 10 busy weeks with all the highs and lows one might expect, but all of it done eating real food, nothing exotic. I slipped up when I bought a TV advertised spiralizer. I gave it away after a couple of tries and one injury. So of all of the money I saved on food £25 was wasted except to say that I did not need it. One reward a few weeks ago was a Polar M400 Heart Rate and Activity Monitor and it has recorded most of the highs and lows and reckons that I have expended 2360 kCal/ day on average which is not that much. In food I consumed Total Calories of 59,253 and 1990.8 gms of sugar. I averaged 846.5 kCal/day with 28.4 gm/day of sugar. What I learned was consequences of choices – Doh!
So to Dr Mosley the BIGGEST THANK-YOU for giving me the scientifically BASED motivating method. Prof Taylor et al Thanks too. If only we had ignored the “Low Fat” message, and done what we knew of i.e. “Eat fewer carbs, move more and learn to smile again”

Hi Lucia, saga £397 so it’s the cheapest so far! That’s just for a single trip – not a year! I’m not diabetic – it’s other problems I have. 🙁
Xxx

Hi Natalie,
Love the space quote.
But, have you thought, whilst floating around, my weight will have reduced considerably?

If I was in space now I would be well under my eleven stone anything target.
🚀🚀🚀🚀🌟⭐️🌟⭐️🌟⭐️🌟🌗🌘🌑🌒🌓🌖🌕🌔🌚🌝🌛🌜🌓🌒🌑🌘🌗🌚🌒⭐️🌟⭐️🌟⭐️🌟⭐️🌟⭐️🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Thinking positive.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Here comes week 7 and 13kg down hba1c test booked for three weeks time can’t wait 🙃

Hi,
What about saga or age concern?
They may have ideas on their websites for insurance cover, as their customers will have had some of these symptoms.

Is there such thing as the British diabetes society?
Are they worth an email if phone call?

Just another angle for you,

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Just have whatever you would have at other meals, at breakfast. It doesn’t have to be “breakfast food”.

hashimoto I’ve heard that mosquitos bite all people equally (and that rumors like them liking people who’ve eaten bananas, or different blood types, isn’t true) but that some people react a lot more. My son and I come up in huge itchy welts that last weeks, my husband and daughter don’t even notice them.

lucia I thought the quote was “aim for the stars but if you miss you’ll be floating in the vast airlessness of space, asphyxiating within minutes”

Another veggie saying hello Speed. I have played mind games with myself for years, telling myself off as I know I need to lose weight, then saying t myself there’s no point starting another diet as I never keep to them. And all the time I was getting bigger and bigger.

I am really having bad health issues now, so decided to give this a go even though I didn’t think I could manage low carb. Well I’m just 2 weeks in but doing OK. I’d had a brief go at 5-2 and found I could happily fast until about 11 30 or 12 noon. The diet wasn’t fast enough for me.

So now most days I drink loads of water in morning and don’t eat till noon ish, and keep busy. I take the yoghurt/berries and seeds to work, pus a salad or soup for later. Give it a go if you need to lose. It is a really different diet in that you lose the urge to binge (well so far anyway). Good luck.

Disappointed at fasting BS reading this morning of 8.7
Morning seems incredibly hard and erratic ,only been a week but still 😱
Alan

Hi, British citizens, wherever you are, please could you sign our petition? We are asking the NHS to encourage T2 diabetics to follow the low carb diet. Thanks 🙂

Hi Switzerland,I wanted to plan so everyone in the universe or farther away could plan and come too.
I would hope we could record the talk and put it on the website.
Also a new blog title so that anyone that went could share their experience.

I have give the thought a little voice.
Let’s see if Michael etc can run with it.
Hope to see you there!

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Well done, CaravanSue – what an inspiration you are. Pleased to read you found some scales somewhere.

Thanks Red Devil…maybe I’ll be brave tomorrow. 😉

Hey Hawks, doing that you will notice an improvement.
It will be fantastic when you suddenly realise that you aren’t panting as much or you do an extra set without thinking.
Cheers
Red

OMG – I weighed myself this morning and both my husband and I couldn’t believe our eyes 😨
I started this diet last Monday (April 11 2016) at around 86 kilos (I was weighed at an airport for a scenic flight a few weeks ago) so I am using that as my starting weight, I got on the scales this morning and it said 79.2 😂 That’s a loss of 6.2 kgs in 7 days. I know that most of it is water but how motivating is that. Also, my fasting BGL has gone from 8 to 6.2 also in 7 days. Boy am I excited now – woo hoo

Lol
I’ve fallen off the wagon too, but I plan on not doing it again. Your own personal wagon stops when you fall off so all you need to do is climb back on and continue the journey.
The sooner you climb back on the sooner you can reach your destination.
Cheers
Red.

Thanks Cherrieanne
☺ those flatbreads were part of my frustration.
Note to new players buy the fine grind flour, I bought a coarser grind thinking it would be better for me and they just didn’t work.
Then I got the fine grind and the recipe worked like a charm.

And Switzerland you are right. Week one I did the headspace meditations and didn’t do them week two.

Best part of this diet is that hubby loves most of the food I am making, so far has only asked for a pass on the egg plant.

Red.

You could use tamari instead of soy sauce for it to be gluten free. I fry sunflower seeds in a couple of teaspoons of tamari. Store in an airtight jar and sprinkle a few over soup or salad for a crunchy, salty tasty topping.

Mmmm sounds yummy Jane, definitely will give that a try. Would be delicious in a laksa.
I’m experimenting with making an African peanut stew to get it low carb/ cal. Will post a recipe once I’m happy with it. It will be a vegan/ vego version.

Hi Speedy,
I’m veggie too. I usually go with full fat yoghurt, berries of some kind and flaxseed meal for breakfast.
Or if I have time I’ll fry mushrooms, haloumi cheese and tomato for a change.
Sometimes I have scrambled eggs and 100g of baked beans, not much of a serve of beans but still filling.
One of the coconut flour flatbreads with a little yoghurt and sliced strawberries ( recipe on site), would also do the trick.
How about some nice homemade soup for a brunch type breakfast?
As long as you stay low carb, non sugary or starchy, and within your calorie allowance you can eat whatever you want. 🙂

Hey, thank you. I might keep going until 16 weeks or 91 kilograms, whichever comes first!

Hi Folks,
Bill contacted the BSD team about this and got the go ahead to continue a bit longer. He’s still on it. CaptainLynne has done 16+ weeks, Hashimoto did more than 8 but is now increasing her calories to maintain weight but still low carbing.
I think there are four or five others who have continued past 10 weeks.

We’ve all been there Red Devil. The most important thing is to learn from your experience and continue on the BSD in which ever form you choose to do it. Be kind to yourself. Maybe explore mindfulness meditation to assist when ‘life’ gets in the way of your BSD plans. Keep us posted and remember we’re all human.

Red, it happens to everyone at some stage! You were only just into the BSD and hadn’t mastered the carb cravings yet.
You will do it this time 🙂 you’ve come back with a new sense of determination!
BTW the gram flour flatbreads are yummy with dried rosemary and sea salt added

I’m the main cook for my wife and two kids (5 and 2 yo boys). I’ve stuck to it despite cooking stuff for them I aren’t eating.

Ironically, I’ve been making the best roast potatoes I’ve ever done! And can’t touch them! Also did home made Fisk and chips for the kids… Smell was delicious! Lol.

I cope by making bad jokes/taking cheap shots at my wife – every serve of mash or roast potatoes is dismissed by me as “white death”, for example. And I feign outrage whenever she suggests I have ever treated my body as anything other than a temple…

Hardest thing is my Saturday morning ritual of making pancakes with my eldest. We’ve been doing it since we was two, and it’s lost a little magic, as he’s a it puzzled as to why I’m not tucking in with him and his brother. But he knows it’s so I can lose my “big fat tummy” (kids get right to the heart of an issue, don’t they?)

Seriously. The weight falling off is enough to stiffen any resolve. You can do it!

Hi Folks: I ate…
B: 3-egg whites, 2-Turkey sausages n 1-tsp of Parmasean cheese. 8-Wheat Thin crackers-8gms of Carbs.
L: clam chowder soup w a 750cc of water
D: 2oz of tuna w 1-tsp of Mayo n 6 leaves of Romaine lettuce, boats n H2O.
Snack: 2 scoop Protein drink w Almond milk.

Woohoo! So excited!

Hi folks,
This is the end of my second week on the BSD and my first week of not taking any medications at all and I couldn’t be happier.
Results so far:
Weight loss – 6.9 kg, and waist reduced by 4 cms (still a long way to go there but a good start).
Fasting blood sugar average for the week was 4.9 mmol/l and average 2 hours after meals was 7.1. Diastolic BP is slightly elevated at 155 but systolic is normal at 80.
These results have been achieved solely from the BSD and increased exercise (10 K steps/day and Michael’s HIT on a stationary bike 3-5 times/week). No medications at all.
The only glitch is that I’m really struggling to keep my carbs down (averaging 85/day) especially with the higher protein intake.
Any tips on how to get these under the magic 50/day that I see advocated on these forums?

Cheers

David

Exactly. I could take it or leave it, but the BS spike put it in the leave it category.