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  • I’m not diabetic or pre, but doing 800cal BSD as there are three diabetics in family. You say keep off the white stuff (bread, pasta, cereals or rice), does that mean there are some breads, rice I can eat? I have only been on diet four days and kept off all these foods, lost 5lb so far. Also is sweet potatoe ok, In the book I think it says can be eaten but Not sure I should.

  • posted by  Niffer on RYE BREAD
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    My husband makes his own bread and I am trying to work out if he can make a low GI bread that I could occasionaly have, maybe on a Saturday. He loves making bread and I actually feel guilty stopping him from his much loved hobby.
    Does anyone have any suggestions?

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Alternatives to fizzy pop
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    Sounds idyllic, where you live. I bet your dogs love their walks. I have an underactive thyroid too, taking 75 mcg a day but I think having it makes it harder to lose weight. Its one of my big questions whether I can lose weight as quickly as the others here. I’m glad you’re enjoying a glass of red and music is great therapy. I’m less worried about you now! I can’t drink red wine myself, it all tastes like vinegar to me but I see that as a blessing really. Coffee is a different story but I love a sweet latte and there just isn’t room for the calories. I do intend to have one once a week though, which I hope will be a carrot to keep me going. I must look for these TED talks, I’ve heard there are all sorts of interesting topics covered.

    So my husband is rolling his eyes at the thought of me starting yet another crazy diet and thinks I fall for anything. Absolutely hope I can prove him wrong with this one!

    Have a lovely evening!

  • posted by  pmshrink on High morning blood sugar
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    Hi Superred
    There’s a really encouraging TED talk by Dr Sarah Hallberg.
    She is a specialist in obesity and diabetes and she talks about the diet she gives her patients. She calls it ‘no GPS’ which is grains, potatoes, sugar. This is from diet doctor.com Maybe you need to come off the insulin more slowly??

    ‘Avoiding the carbohydrates that raise your blood sugar decreases your need for medication to lower it. Taking the same dose of insulin as you did prior to adopting a low-carb diet might result in hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). You need to test your blood sugar frequently when starting this diet and adapt (lower) your medication. This should ideally be done with the assistance of a knowledgeable physician.’
    Hope it helps
    Penny

  • posted by  Steve and Ei on RYE BREAD
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    Have you tried Lidl “high protein” (ie low carb) rolls. Triangular , dark brown, stuffed full of linseeds, coated in sunflower seeds. Had some quite good BG results eating these before I started BSD diet. Might return to them later (and test again).

  • posted by  pmshrink on Dieting with a chef in the house..
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    Hi Ddraig
    This is day 11.
    I’m a great one for researching and finding stuff out and then telling people- sometimes too much!
    I’m keeping s notebook with what I eat as well as MFP and how I am etc.
    Unfortunately for us my sister and I have lost a very small amount of weight despite being meticulous. Must be a family thing. Our waists have come down a bit which is nice. How can we have eaten 4000 cals less in 10 days and only lost a couple of pounds in my case, nothing in my sisters case? Weird. Any explanations welcome. And that’s with me doing 1000 s of steps every day! And drinking a lot.
    But we are feeling a lot better, much less sluggish in the morning and sleeping better. So we really keeping on, keeping the faith, and keeping our fingers crossed! Anyway it’s actually enjoyable to do the diet and feel in control.
    Penny

  • posted by  Niffer on Headaches and hangover feeling. Toxic diet?
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    End of day four, still feeling sick and suffering headaches although not as rough as I felt at end of day two. Feel it is worth pushing through especially after reading some of your posts.

  • posted by  auntylil on Alternatives to fizzy pop
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    Ha ha quinoa… I’m sure I read somewhere sometime about roasting it. It doesn’t do anything for me but it’s high in protein(?) so if you can eat mushrooms I’m sure I can rise to the challenge. Over these 8 weeks I shall be eating many things I’ve never heard of before. I keep looking at what I got today – including miso and tahini. Things like soy sauce I haven’t had for years because I always thought I might have IBS or Candida but guess what? Since starting the BSD I have not had any symptoms of that sort of thing. Liberating.

    I’m not low really, but definitely feel different to usual. I tend to be a little low and inward normally. I’m having a small glass of red wine and listening to loud music, they help. I’m thinking of taking up yoga again as there’s no way I could do anything strenuous unless something miraculous happens. These forums are invaluable for the support and information and thank you for taking an interest. Like you I need to lose two stone and 3″ off waist at least. At least should be in italics!

    I’m following the meal plans in the book almost exactly but unsure about only two meals at weekends. You can have coffee you know – max one a day I think he says. I had a black coffee in the week which sorted out a headache. There’s an awful lot of withdrawal going on!

    I’m not checking my blood readings as I’m not pre-diabetic or diabetic according to a recent check. I have high cholesterol and thyroid problems though, and a BMI of nearly 30, weighing in at 13st 10lbs. They may not seem too worrying for some however I know I do have a lot of visceral fat and the old liver and pancreas would play up soon. I would like to lose 3 or 4 stone, to be back where I was before I had thyroid disease. I haven’t noticed any change in clothes because I live in baggy jumpers and leggings most of the time but that has got to change. When I’m out walking add on waterproofs and fleeces so it’s hard to know what might be going on!

    I’m so glad you can now start as it’s exciting taking control and joining this amazing diet plan, really, as you were so ready for it. Have you watched any of the TED talks on YouTube about reversing diabetes? Very encouraging if ever you flag a little. Yes, I am in a little town that’s in the middle of nowhere really. I can see snow on mountains in one direction and pastoral plains in others! But within a 20 mile radius there are several towns too.

    Happy Eating (of the right things that is)

  • posted by  stringbreaker on Shocked myself
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    I always weigh myself every day. It’s taught me that sometimes my weight goes up or down a pound or two unexpectedly (fluid loss/retention/loo etc) and that it’s quite natural and nothing to worry about.
    If you only weigh yourself once a week, then that weigh-in assumes undue importance, and can cause both undue optimism or despair.

  • posted by  pmshrink on Help, anyone??
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    Hi Hercles.
    Great it’s working for you.
    It is ok to eat bacon and whole egg, otherwise your breakfast might be s bit carby, but with those additions would be more protein and fat, which won’t do you any harm ( unlike what we’ve been told for years) and you won’t get hingry for ages.
    Penny

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Why don't I feel hungry?
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    Well, if you have achieved your goals, I think the idea is that we don’t really go back to previous eating habits – keep the carbs as a very…very… rare treat.

  • posted by  stringbreaker on Courgetti
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    We have an “Easy Store” model from Lakeland. After use, it all packs away – handle, blades and all – into a package about the size and shape of a small tin loaf. Works and cleans very well. Cost just over £30 I seem to remember.

  • posted by  Spirit on Hello and Cloud Bread anyone?
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    Hi, I’m not diabetic but want to lose some weight before my daughter’s wedding in May. I did the 5.2 successfully 2 years ago by dropping 3.5 stone. A little has crept back on so I want it to go fast.

    Did anyone see This Morning, this morning when they made cloud bread? It’s not bread at all. it’s made with 3 eggs – separated. 3TBPS cream cheese or cottage cheese and 1/4 tsp cream of tartar.

    you whisk the egg whites in 1 bowl, and the egg yolks with the cream cheese and cream of tartar in the other. gradually add the whisked egg whites to the egg yolk mixture. put dollops on a baking sheet and cook at a low heat 130c for 15 mins. they look like puffs of cloud and you can use them in place of bread apparently.

    i’ll make some tomorrow, but they looked good on tv.

  • posted by  paula121s on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    I’ve not had the catastrophe “yet” but I’m sure at some point it will rear it’s ugly head. It’s day 6 for me. Well done for getting back on the wagon. My problem is not going to be chocolate or sweet stuff it’s probably going to be savoury like salami, bacon chorizo…..the list goes on!!! I did get a valentines meal deal in M & S today I deliberately bought things that were on the diet apart from the starter which I got anti pasta – which I love, but I know that my husband will happily guard it and eat it before the meal! The dessert I bought, I wouldn’t eat as it’s white chocolate which I hate….they did have my all time favourite dessert Tarte tartain. I can tell you the mental debate over that went on for a good 10 mins.

  • posted by  AnnieC on How long until you see a change
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    Hubby here, thank you for the encouragement….in all honesty not felt this sharp for many years…just could do with hitting a magic 8……then a fantastic 7 to know it’s moving in the right direction.

  • posted by  captainlynne on Maintenance
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    Hi

    Welcome to the group.

    I finish the 8 weeks tomorrow night. I’d have no problem staying with the 800 calories a day (still got weight to lose), but Dr Mosley suggests (p146/147) doing 5:2. My thinking is I might try 2:5 rather than 5:2 – 800 calories a day Monday to Friday with low -carb Mediterranean at weekends. Trying not to be too rigid as I’ve a holiday in March and residential conference in April so need to work out what I’m going to do about them.

    Lynne

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Alternatives to fizzy pop
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    Sorry its not been as good a day as you would have liked. Its annoying when things seem to get in our way. But at least you got your coconut flour! My adventurous streak is only stretching as far as quinoa so far. I’m breaking my rule of if I can’t pronounce it I have no business eating it!

    You do sound quite low (if that’s possible?). What can you do for a quick pick-you-up?

    My testing kit arrived this afternoon (yay!) so I have already done a test two hours after eating which suggested I have normal bs (blooming hurts for such a small hole and so much blood!) and I will do another test in the morning for fasting bs. However, I’m not off the hook as I have two stone to lose and at least three inches off my waist and I know I am addicted to carbs as I answered yes to every question in the questionnaire.

    So I’m ready to start tomorrow – I have menu plans done until Sunday. Not surprisingly it didn’t take long!

    Have you done any results yet? Have you noticed any changes in clothes yet? You’ll be on day 5 tomorrow, or are you planning to wait a bit longer?

    Oh yes – I said a sad goodbye today to Costa (Coffee!) as I will have to stay away for a little while – that will be the real test…

  • posted by  Magiek on How Will My GP React?
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    Tomorrow is my first GP appointment since starting the 5:2 plus Mediterranean Regime 3 Weeks ago. I have lost 9 lbs and my average Blood sugar has dropped from 7-5 to 5.0. My BMI has gone from 26.8 to 25.5. I am feeling great with more energy and I’m enjoying the compliments I’ve received about my appearance. It is obvious that this is working for me, but what will my GP say? I would like guidance from her about Medications such as Glycazide, Metformin and Anti-hypertensive drugs that I’ve been prescribed, because of my Type 2 Diabetes. I have already dropped the Glycazide on the Fasting days but think I need to have all my medication reviewed.

    I have printed out the Information for Doctors from Newcastle University and have kept a diary of my diet, blood sugar results and exercise for the past 3 weeks, so hopefully she will believe the evidence. Has anyone else got to this stage and how has their doctor reacted? Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

    Magiek

  • posted by  dvpeace on pasta – cooked, chilled and reheated
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    Can’t speak for the potatoes – but as for re-heated pasta – it is a well known trick of the trade for us mothers who have Type 1 diabetic children. Whilst the carbs remain the same – it somehow causes less of a spike.

  • posted by  Eureka on Maintenance
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    Hi Haining25 welcome

    Re read p146 in BSD book. Also Google ncl type 2 diabetes. This is the original Newcastle uni 800 calorie diet to reverse type 2 Diabetes
    Read prof Roy Taylor’s Reply on frequent questions asked Read the lot & print out all you need. You need knowledge to succeed & really understand what you are doing.
    We’re here to help as much as we can. I don’t think any or many have done 8 weeks yet on this site. Could be wrong & they will post you.

    Dr Michael Mosley says ‘ create a lifestyle you can stick to’. Prof Taylor says ‘ once you are at your personal target weight, the critical thing now is to become accustomed to eating approximately 2/3 of the total amount you used to eat’.

    So exercise, eat better & really change what you did that got you to the place your at now
    Knowledge is power. Pass it on. We can do this. Great to have you on board
    Eureka

  • posted by  auntylil on Just starting out and confused AF
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    My children are adult now and do a bit of mothering of me… but I do recall only too well being a busy mum, working half time and coping with some health difficulties, mainly thyroid disease and gall stones, so I admire your guts going into this diet and also think you’re right on to look at ways to make it work that suit you. Don’t forget you can eat protein too not just salad, don’t want you looking like a rabbit! One day at a time dearie, you’re making moves towards your goal already 🙂

  • posted by  dvpeace on Can anyone advise please?
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    I have also been trying alternatives – such as Almond milk and Soya Milk – less calories and less sugar. Interestingly – milk is one of the few things you give to Type 1 diabetics to maintain their blood sugar when they go low – it has a long acting effect.

  • posted by  auntylil on Alternatives to fizzy pop
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    Hi there – okay day thanks although feeling different to usual. Still low energy/weak and unable to do much other than walk two Border Collies which to be honest is quite challenging. I trekked off to Tesco and they didn’t have a lot of what was on my list so made a detour on the way home to nearest Sainsbury’s and they do stock coconut flour (£5 for a small packet!). I’m catching you on another thread so will look for that and get back to you there.

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Question about exercise
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    No problem Olly. The machines do tend to exaggerate calories burned for obvious reasons. I’m just starting the diet myself tomorrow. I have been waiting for my blood sugar testing kit to arrive, which it has done today (yay!) so I have done three meal plans for over the weekend and am really excited to see if it works for me as well as it has for other people.

    Wishing you every success!

  • posted by  Elvis Jones on My next 8 weeks
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    I have a plan and i’m going to stick with it. No doubt i’ll have bad days but i’ve started meditation with head space so i hope that helps.

    I have a page set up on FB to track my progress, i’ll post it later. Its called 100 days of change ( the profile pic is my with a load of burgers )

  • posted by  Bill1954 on This has to work for me
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    Weird all I had yesterday was mackeral with a tomato onion and celery salad at lunch and a small chicken breast stir fried with Med veg at dinner (I don’t do breakfast) and my Fasting sugar reading was still 7.8 this morning.
    This bad boy goes up waaaaaaay faster than it comes down.

  • posted by  BigKevin on Hello Everyone
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    Hello all,

    My name is Kevin and I’m doing this diet of Mr Mosley.

    I’ve put together a blog at http://kevins8weekdiet.blogspot.co.uk/ and a twitter account at https://twitter.com/kevins8weekdiet
    I’m using it as a way of capturing my thoughts any interesting things I come across and as a way of perhaps publishing some resources again as I find them.

    My latest blog post is about choosing which brands (in particular yoghurt) to buy.

    Hope you can join me !

    Kevin

  • posted by  Hercules on Help, anyone??
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    Use a meter to check your blood sugar. I felt very fuzzy the 1st couple of days. Make sure you are drinking lots of water. Personally I find it easier to have a shake once or twice a day as a meal replacement. I am a meat lover but now I only eat egg whites and a mixture of spinach,peppers,mushrooms,onions and tomato for breakfast instead of adding bacon for breakfast. I have a weighed out portion of salmon, chicken or steak with salad or spinach/green beans for dinner. I have been diabetic for over 10 years but after less than a week my blood sugar is in normal range when I wake and Ive already lost 5 pounds. Yes I sometimes feel hungry but try and take my mind off that. Best wishes.

  • posted by  kevpartner on Maximum carbs
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    I know it varies from person to person but is there a ballpark figure for the maximum grams of carbs you should get in a day? Or what percentage of our calories should come from carbs under this regime? It would really help in planning our meals.

  • I’m certainly going to be doing this. We tried it on Monday and found that it tasted fine – a bit softer than usual, more like the spaghetti in tins. The article on the BBC website about it said re-cooking results in a 50% reduction in the blood sugar spike – it also said the same was true for potatoes so I’ll be trying it with a small portion of roasties which I’ll cook on Saturday and reheat on Sunday.

  • posted by  Haining25 on Maintenance
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    Just finished reading the book and will start on Monady, however a little confused on what my calorie intake should be be after the 8 weeks,can anyone help.

  • posted by  Olly on Question about exercise
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    Yeah I’m just going by what the machines are saying.

    I’ll see how I go and if I feel drained, like you suggest I’ll add extra calories on those days.

    Thanks for the reply, greatly appreciated 🙂

  • posted by  peanutbutty on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    Hi again everyone,

    Just a quick word of encouragement to those who have fallen off the wagon for a moment/ hour/ day.

    Yesterday I knew I would still be vulnerable to self-sabotage and catastrophising after kitkat-gate the day before, so I made a special effort to repeat kind thoughts to myself and stick to the diet. It was a bit harder to resist sugary things than previously but the replies to this thread helped (thank you!), I stuck it out and here I am today, easiest day yet!

    One kitkat, one birthday meal, one bowl of rice is not the end of this diet – not unless we choose to let it. So, after the urge strikes you and you fall headfirst into a cadbury’s cream egg, remember to choose not to over eggagerate (geddit?) the lapse. Choose herbal tea instead!

    ps. another kilo down!

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Question about exercise
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    I think from my understanding of what Dr Mosley says in the book, he is in favour of keeping exercise in your regime. I take your point about the maths and agree with you, it does mean your actual calorie count for those days is super low.
    How are you measuring your calorie burn? If you are using the counter on the cross trainer at the gym, I wouldn’t put too much store by its accuracy (tell me to butt out if I am out of line but I have spent a lot of time in gyms and the equipment puts a very rosey glow on calorie counts).
    Perhaps you could keep everything as normal for this week and see how the exercise makes you feel. If you feel like you have no energy for exercise, then add a few more calories on these days. But you may feel fine. Just keep up your protein intake as you don’t want to lose your muscle mass.

  • posted by  Janet1973 on How long until you see a change
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    Hi Annie
    Wow! 7lbs in the first week is amazing, well done hubby!
    I have just finished reading the bsd book so it’s quite fresh in my mind and the research done suggests that the longer a person has had type 2, the longer it takes to get the big results. That’s not to say they won’t come, just that it might take a bit longer.
    7lbs is a fantastic start, just keep going and I’m sure you will soon see real health benefits.

  • posted by  Janet1973 on My next 8 weeks
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    Wow! You are clearly a force to be reckoned with! What an amazing opportunity you have created for yourself. I’m sure you will keep us up to date with your progress and I will look forward to reading about it.

    Its often been said that you make your own luck so you will have buckets of it. So I wish you every success between now and 4th April!

  • posted by  Olly on Question about exercise
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    Hi there,

    So I’m starting the diet on Monday and have a query about exercise.

    I’ve recently started going to the gym with my friend (we’re both trying to lose weight) and I’m unsure whether I can continue doing the same routine I have been doing.

    We do a 10 minute warm up on the treadmill (slightly fast paced walk) then 40 minutes on a cross trainer (hill interval setting) and then a 10 minute cool down on the treadmill. On average, we burn 400 calories and do this 5 times a week.

    My concern is that I will be burning half of my daily calories. Should I just see how I go? Start at a lower intensity and go from there?

    Any advice would be appreciated.

  • posted by  Bizibee on Help, anyone??
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    By the way, I couldn’t believe the NHS website! It refers to the Mediterranean diet as being good, gives links to the research done in Spain (including the foods for each of the three groups studied), then instead of listing the foods that showed 30% fewer heart and blood sugar problems, they recommend the foods FOR THE CONTROL GROUP! These were the foods shown to be least good and were high carb, pasta, bread etc. with the lowest fat and oil! As a description of the so called Mediterranean diet, not accurate and very confusing. I felt very angry as people read this as advice for feeding their families. Nothing wrong with whole food carbs for healthy active children as a balanced part of an overall healthy diet, but to make them the biggest source of energy and recommending low fat from vegetable oil – it’s a discredited way of eating and responsible for our ballooning waists from ever younger ages! I sent them a complaint email.

  • posted by  Spuddy123 on I'm Really Suffering
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    Have only today found this website, after reading the blood sugar diet book. I saw your post and wonder – have you heard of, or do you already drink kefir? It’s very very good for your innards and packed with millions of beneficial bacteria, far more than yoghurt and the like. I have been drinking it daily for over a year now. I have some that I can send you to start you off if you like – it feeds and increases in milk, so the first lot should be all that you need, then you’ll be able to pass it on yourself. Best wishes.

  • posted by  Bizibee on Help, anyone??
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    Gate of heaven I really enjoyed reading your long post about what you eat. At present I’ve started the original 5:2 (that is, 500cals on two days per week and the rest eat a Mediterranean style diet). But I’m considering switching to the steady 800 Blood Sugar diet as it is blood sugar I’m concerned about and the quicker weightloss should deal with that better. But before I started I spent two weeks getting off hi carbs as I think I’m a little addicted, though it may be that I was craving more fat in my diet as bread and butter/peanut butter, cheese sandwich and savoury cheesy pastry things like quiche are all high fat as well as high carb, and are my chief crave foods. For the first week my sleep was very disrupted but after that things settled so I started on the diet. I plan to go another week at least using 5:2, look at the weight loss then probably switch to 800 per day for at least a month, probably the recommended two. I though 800 was so low I’d never manage it over time but after the 500 turned out to have surprising amounts of food I think adding an extra 300 and doing this every day will be fine.

    Yes, I too read about Bulletproof on Dr Mary Eades blog (see ProteinPower.com), sent off for coffee beans and oil. I’m using double cream instead of butter at the mo, plus the oil. It’s really nice, makes a good drink, though not for a fast day. For a low carb, high fat diet Dr Micael Eades is good too. Dr Mosley’s run down of the research is so good in the BS diet book, I returned to it today as a reminder.

    Gateofheaven, do you do gentle swimming?

  • posted by  Jessicab148 on Just starting out and confused AF
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    Thanks heaps guys. Today was supposed to be a shopping and food prep day. Got the shopping done and then disaster struck in the form of my bestie losing her most precious horse. So meal prep went out the window and we had a drink to celebrate his life so headache disappeared from the drinks and so calories are sitting about 750 arm so we will try again tomorrow for the meal prep. And to top it off now one of the boys are sick. So we will be off for a Drs appt tomorrow now. But feeling confident that I didn’t go over the calories count so that’s a bonus in my book. The next big test will be on the weekend when we have my grandmothers 80th. But I will strive to stay away from the nibbles and eat salad. Thanks for all your positive vibes. It makes me think that this is worth it and in the end I’m helping myself be more active with my children as they grow up