Hi Liz

Not sure how helpful I can be but I had my gallbladder out 10 years ago and never really had any problems since other than when I went really OTT on eating fatty foods. I wouldn’t have thought the amount of fat you eat on the 800 would be a problem but everyone is different.

I’m not sure how related to the diet the gallstones would be after just 5 weeks. Mine came on suddenly with one nutmeg size stone suddenly blocking the bile duck. However I have heard of people developing gallstones when they lose a vast amount of weight very quickly such as after weight loss surgery.

Having suffered the pain and the surgery I don’t blame you for being cautious I would ask your Dr for advice

Good luck with it you have my sympathy!

Ps I was told the diagnosis was fat female fair and 40 ….not flattering but true in my case! Hopefully not for too much longer the fat anyway.

Thanks guys. I was amazed myself! I could never lose weight once I got to 70 kilos even on the 5:2 diet. But this diet is great on all counts. Most especially for blood sugars. Also, the diet is quite easy once you are in fat burning mode because you feel full with no physical cravings.

Welcome back on it Karen.

So sorry to hear you have had such devastating news, but this plan is one thing that you can control, now your mind has settled a bit. Also loosing weight and eating beautiful food will help your mind to feel easier. So Bril work on getting refocused, we are all here with you hundreds of us, your big BSD family. Just keep posting, good or bad, let us know and we can support you, I know it’s an old saying but time seems very hard when you are in the moment, but the movement of time does eventually heal, and make things bearable.

So get planning, get eating, and moving, and focus on hour by hour, drink plenty with a little extra salt to compensate for any potential carb withdrawals. You will be fine.

Regards jan🙂

Sorry replying so late, just seeing this now 🙂 Yes someone else mentioned Boobydoo, I will defo check them out, see what they have on offer 🙂 Thanks folks!

Fantastic results Arcanarose! What a great loss in weight and fantastic waist measurement too…and blood sugars going down…well done you 🙂 So pleased for you! And very heartening to read about such a good result 🙂 Have a great day!! Karen

Well it’s been a few weeks since I posted…

Had some bad news a couple of weeks ago, which sort of knocked me for six. Been a bit knocked sideways ever since… With all the turmoil the diet went haywire very quickly, I just ate anything and everything that would give me supposed ‘comfort’ (gin, chocolate, pizza, you name it, I ate it)

So, started back just this week, trying to get back into a routine again. Amazingly only gained three pounds but am determined to get back on the straight and narrow. More than ever I feel how urgent it is to get healthy so that I don’t store up more health problems for later…I really need to do this for me, my family, and my own health.

So…Greek yoghurt and berries for breakfast today, and may we all have a good day and week. I am starting again week 1 for me – a fresh start…

Good luck everyone

kx

Hi there lucky

What’s the matter with your heel,

Just starting a Wallander book by Henning Mankell. One Step Behind. I borrow e-books from the library. Comforting to read the thoughts of the detective re the changes happening in Swedish society, because they are much the same as we see here in UK. We are not alone…. The murdery bits can be gruesome but the thought processes of detection draw me into the plot. I like puzzles.

Morning Frog, you’re really getting into this Nordic walking aren’t you? I’m intrigued! Even normal walking is a revelation to me in recent weeks.. Actually enjoying the time spent with my OH, simply walking and talking as much as the health benefits 👍🏼

Naughty Butterlover, come away from that ice cream. Or if you must have some, go and invest in a tub of Oppo from Waitrose or co cop. Low carb, low sugar.. And an excellent little treat for when you need it 😉

It all sounds great, you have some treats ahead of you!

Only one word of caution. Be very careful of the apples. They are surprisingly high in calories but the real kicker is the carbs – 18g per apple! Be careful you don’t use your carbs up with apples without realising – perhaps only have small pieces as part of a salad rather than eating a couple of whole apples thinking they don’t matter.

Good luck! 🙂

Hello LH I have just seen your post as it popped up on my side bar. I appreciate it is a while since you posted and wondered how you got on? I am uat and I haven’t yet gone on to 800 calorie diet because I wanted to speak with my Dr first as I didn’t know what it would do to tsh. Did you go under or over? hoping you are well and congrats on the amazing 3 stone loss.

That’s a great weight loss, 3.6 kilos in 4 weeks and great to see a drop in your blood sugars keep at it!…I’m on my second week and have started from 68 kilo or 10 stone 10, I do not have diabetes (I’m just trying to lose weight and eat less sugar) , thanks for posting it’s so motivating to read others doing well.

Hi

Was just feeling really sorry for myself yesterday so had a less than perfect one!

I know 10% is great, when I get there, just downgrading didn’t seem so good and the idea of that led to a miserable day.

Anyway, today is another day! I’ve read through the posts for inspiration and am now going to have my favourite lunch for breakfast …. 2 fried eggs with asparagus!

Have a good day!

Fantastic Sneak_me – I am coming to dinner! You can cook your celery, or eat it raw. It is great to bulk up bolognaise sauce or chili beans etc.

Onward and downwards!

Hi Lucky
yes, notes from my GP – as you say, if you never go, not v helpful
It appears to be a summary version rather than the full thing, but it’s useful to have a clear record of dates etc.

Hope you feel up to doing the walk – have you got trainers or shoes that are shaped & support your feet?
I most often get a recurrence of problems when I walk too far in completely flat ‘plimsoll’type shoes.
On days when I’m working or need smart shoes when I get somewhere (even those are pretty flat and ‘sensible’), I most often where walking shoes or trainers, and change my shoes when I arrive.

My Nordic walking lessons start today.

Hi Claire0310,
As you know, I too have struggled but I agree with PrincetonianStud, (but do you really hold one of the ropes?!) I have lost a pound this week, (I was going to type ‘just’ a pound but thought I wouldn’t have typed the ‘just’ if I had gained it!) That’s 5 lbs for me so far in the three weeks . I know others would be very disappointed with that, but for me… during the school summer holidays, juggling working and children and on top of that , we as a family we are trying to manage shocking some news that came in on Day four of the diet,…so I am thrilled with the 5 lbs loss! If I can lose a stone in the 8 weeks, I’d be really pleased. The motivation, has been this thread that you started x The perspective and encouragement from everyone has REALLY helped, thank you 🙂

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Hi, Kenh here did not think i could stick to this diet but 3 weeks in loving it i have lost 30lbs. i feel great my bs. Levels are in single figures i still have a long way to go but i now know that it is acheivable well done everyone who has got this far. Kenh.

Hey there folks,

You will all be pleased to know that I have thrown away the sugar free lollies and I’ve been shopping in town today so I got all sorts like 2 bags of apples (see ruthdownunder!), 3 cauliflowers, 1 leek, 1 bunch of celery ( i like it cooked but will try it raw), 1 zucchini to try, 1 burpless cucumber to try, some pears, baby spinach (coz my garden won’t be able to keep up with it), runner beans (to try), brussel sprouts(to try), I got chick peas in tin, kidney beans in tin, coconut flour, chickpea flour, Hazelnut meal, Lentil flour, pepitas, sunflower kernels, eggs, almonds, Tuna, Roast beef slices, silverside slices, bacon, Rhubarb (love it), ginger, an avocado to try, strawberries and some greek yoghurt natural and vanilla.
My tastebuds won’t know what hit them…
Well can you let me know if I did ok with all that lot? I think I am on the right track with the right types of foods.
I have actually been using up some Isowhey shakes for brekky until they run out, they are not very nice anyway.

Let me know what you think!!
Thanks

Sneak_me you only have a tidge to lose compared to me. Do you like apples? A little bit carby but very sweet. A bit of pink lady can carry me to the next meal. Cucumbers – as much as you like. As Timmy and Igorasusual said you need to retrain your tastebuds, so artificial sweeteners are not the go.

You will need your non-starchy veg and your water to be comfortable as well as nourished. If you note in the book the original experimental group had 3 200 calorie shakes and 200 calories of non starchy veg.

You will be fine.

At the Drs, you mean, Frog? Probably stating the bleedin’ obvious as per – yes Lucky, keyword being ‘patient’. I haven’t but then I rarely go to the Docs so it would probably be pointless. Haven’t had a blood test since 2006 etc.

Morning Butter 🙂 Mat Damon, hmmmm, not a bad choice. Like a fine wine, he has actually improved with age. Oh absolutely agree with you there. I don’t have to do the blood thing, but for me, the scales… I’m up 1.5 kg again from before I went away for the weekend. It wasn’t one half of a bread roll that did that, it was the wine, and the much reduced walking. In fact, from when I got home from camping a week ago, I think I’ve only hit my 10,000 steps once. If I want to see a movement in these scales from now on, the onus is on me. Alcohol buggers things up for me, so no alcohol unless a special occasion and when I do – moderation! Two bottles is not ‘in moderation’! And if I can’t do moderation, then I shouldn’t drink at all, how old am I? And I need to move more. But I’m also realising that I am effectively unravelling a situation that has taken me a quarter of a century to arrive at. I’m what, 11 weeks in? It’s going to take time. I need to be patient and be a bit more kinder with myself.

I’m debating whether to do the 3 mile walk into town this morning, son has another 3 days of resits to do, lab work. Hubby is taking him in, so I could walk in and meet him there. But the heel thing is really putting me off. Don’t fancy being halfway in to the walk and it going on me. We’ll see…

Hi Everyone. I woke this morning to 23 emails with all of your posts.The conversation was very amusing thanks for giving me a chuckle, for the record I’m a Mat Damon fan.BSD continues 0 .2kg loss today but BGL still above 6 in the morning. I must stop having a bite of my hubby’s icecream. Also not working this week so steps are really down,like none.Every day there is a sensible reason why the indicators are up or down .I’m challenging myself to keep changing things to reach my goals
Thought for today “No one can do it for me, gains and loss are my responsibility and I have control.
Cheers All

Hi Natalie,
It may not have just been the rice Thai food has a lot of sugar in the sauces. Anything like fish sauce, kecap manis and all the other sauces that go into those yummy asian/thai dishes often have so much hidden sugar. Near me is a really great malaysian/thai take out and I can’t eat nasi goreng there anymore it just has way too much added sugar and making it at home is never the same.

Timmy,

Thanks for your valuable information. I am taking it all on board.
I have always envied all the people that can eat that huge range of salads out there. So I do hope my tastebuds to change.
I will be working on broadening my range as soon as possible.
Thanks again!

A family member (my husband’s cousin’s wife, to be specific) is pregnant and just found out she has gestational diabetes. She is moderately overweight. She’s started testing her blood sugars regularly. After having lunch here that included her “allowed” amount of potato and rice, her blood sugars seemed fine, but she told me that the other day she had some Thai takeaway and her blood sugar shot up higher than it did for the GTT and she had been in tears about it. She put it down to stress affecting her BS levels. I tried to explain to her that I use low-GI (slow release of sugar) potato and low-GI Basmati Rice (NB I don’t necessarily have much, or any, myself; but serve to family and guests as I figure they are better than other types) but that the Thai rice she had would have been Jasmine rice or something similar which has a higher GI than white sugar. I don’t think she believed me, or thought it mattered.

Australia is still stuck in the “eat 2-4 servings of carbs each meal when you have diabetes” stage of development and obviously I am not going to tell a pregnant woman to go against the advice of doctors and stop eating carbs – I don’t even know if that would be good for the baby or not. But I think she needs to cut down and eat different types of carbs. Any advice on how I should approach the subject? I did the Fast 800 for a while but have not been at all consistent so I don’t have a significant amount of weight loss to show her (yet).

Hello,
I am a 42 year old mum with two small kids. I’m 175cm and just weighed in at 103.6 kilos. I did this earlier in the year for 5 weeks and got down to 97k but have put it back on:-(

I swore last New Years Eve that by Christmas 2016 I would be under 90 kilos so here I am. I have 4 months to get under 90 kilos.

I am not diabetic but clearly have issues with my weight.

My goal is by Christmas to be 87 kilos. Wine is a big problem for me…and when I drink portions creep up so I want to steer clear of it for the next 8 weeks if I have the will power.

I don’t want to spend the next ten years getting fatter and fatter:-( and I want to be in control of my weight!

I did the green tea smoothie this morning ..was ok. filling.

have just sorted out the login to my patient records – it;s really good being able to access
(all the stats to compute and graphs to make!!! 🙂 )

Has anyone else done this?

Hi Cpt Lynne

What train would you be, the Orient Express of course! Cold turkey has been the way to go. My family have got used to me offering them ‘usual food’ at our weekly get togethers and me eating something different. Any naughty carbs for dessert are divided up for them to take home and even hubby has now got into the swing of taking his quota for the week into work in case I might get a weak moment. Lesson learnt – no repeat. My only device is choc and it really has to be worth eating a square at a time.

Apart from the above lesson learnt I have been happy with the almost a 1kg a week loss so far. I feel a bit of a mixture of intermittent fasting and slowly becoming a veggie with tiny tins of tuna thrown in every other day, is my lot. I’ve learnt that if I do go over 800 one day I find it very easy to not eat until much later in the day, giving myself a smaller window of eating. Don’t usually do breakfast. Used to be porridge every day. I eat quite a bit of low carb veg and manage to keep to 20gms of carbs. Do you have typical days where you the same thing or are you very good at mixing it up?? Three meals a day??

When I did 5:2 last year from Jan – June I had given up eating bread, potatoes, rice and pasta and managed to get my HbA1c down to 50. I wasn’t so rigid about the number of carbs so was excited to get the BSD book. Stopped taking Metformin last year. These forums have given me the confidence to keep going way past the 8 weeks. Want to be confident that my organs get the cleansing mentioned in the book. Don’t want to be on any medication and stay well for as long as possible.

Cheers
blue1919

Verano, 10% is a great goal, more than halves your diabetes risk.

Hi Pd11
You are so right. It is an addiction. On my first day I was doing really well and had to go to a 40th. They had a gourmet pizza guy there and everything was constantly brought around to you. While others were taking pizza every time. I only took one small piece the whole night and no birthday cake. I didn’t recognize myself. I would have binged the whole night normally. I have never been a big drinker so no alcohol didn’t bother me. It is the lack of bloating i notice already and it is only day 4. Also i found with carbs i am constantly going back to the fridge or pantry. The habits we form. Good luck with your 8 weeks. I sabotaged myself on a previous attempt by having people over for dinner then didn’t reign myself in. This time I am more determined to lose the weight and not end up with serous diabetes problems like my father. He is Tofi and in denial.

Hi Barnett! I wanted to add my voice to the others here and encourage you to just hold off judging the diet for now, just follow the guidelines and don’t think about it too much — we all have a tendency to judge things very quickly and I think many folk think it isn’t working so they quit just about the time it starts working! I have been off and on the diet since March, lost what I wanted and rediscovered my old “me” (10 inches smaller at waist, down three clothing sizes). I lost very slowly in the beginning, then much more quickly around weeks 7-12. Not sure why, just high-insulin me doing my thing. I have hopped back on for a couple of weeks and now I am doing 5:2 maintenance — going well. My best advice is measure everything, don’t stress if you mess up (just start again the next day) and if you are just starving, eat something small and fatty or protein-filled (chicken, cheese, nuts). It was finally, for me, just staying the course. I had bad days and good days and lots in between — but the results five months later were worth it. You’re going to do this — hang in there. It worked for so many and it will work for you too. Julia

WEEK 1 WEIGH IN

Well after a clean day yesterday I was pleased to see the result on the scales this morning.

Weight – 88.8kg (down 0.7kg for the day and down 2.3kg for the week)

Happy with the weeks loss, particularly given the weekend was not perfect (far from it).

Hoping to go below 87.0kg (down another 1.8kg) by the end of week 2.

Haha love it! 🙂

Hello I have a lot of weight to lose and need to improve my BS levels and fatty liver. I think I may have answered my own question and probably the 800 calorie a day for 8 weeks. I need to get my health back. Will look up your story and thanks

Thank you all. This is all really great advise and I’m powering through regardless. I have at least 4 stone to lose possibly more if I’m honest but I will take all these marvellous suggestions and tweak my routine accordingly. I had no idea things like dairy would be an issue having seemingly eaten lots all my life. But I do feel it now if I’m honest as have been getting cattarh more than ever. My sister commented today that my face looks different so hey maybe I’m starting at the top and working down. I think I have talked her into doing this plan too as we are similar in size and shape and she can see something in what I’m doing even if I can’t yet. Thankyou all once again I really appreciate it xxxx

wow trebor – that’s amazing – well done.
You must be feeling fantastic – enjoy shopping!

I don’t know who Tom Hardy is tbh. Yes, Idris Elba he is rather dishy.

Night night Yowzer 🙂

G’ night folks x just posting this coz it made me smile..i do NOT think anyone here is a know all! Xx
Sleep tight! X
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Just finished 8weeks, I lost with a loss of 56lbs. My target was 59lbs so I am going to continue with 800 diet. Just read an article giving out dieting advice that said how dangerous low carb diets were, little do they know.
I say I have lost 56lbs, I forgot to mention I have also lost several £’s having to buy new clothes, but a price worth paying.

Trebor728

Well done! I would love a motorhome, enjoy!! Also, I think you are allowed a wee glass occasionally of red wine on the BSD?

Hubba Hubba where Mr Elba is concerned, I’m behind you in the queue!

wait a minute now lucky !!! theres only one crush ……. mr greg davies !!!!!!
tom hardy i want to slap him for some reason!!!
IDRIS ELBA now hes a man a big brute of a man yep i will settle for him until i can think of someone else that is !!!!!

Ho oldbluejeans,
I have a husband and 45 year old daughter ( she is living with us for a while doing a course at the botanical gardens) neither of them are on the diet, daughter is definately not helpful, it’s a real trial sometimes! Husband a bit better, he does encourage me then like tonight, they both go to the local tesco express, ( for a walk!) and come back with chocolate and cake, then ask me do I want some!!!!!
So you just have to be disciplined, easier said than done, I know, it was our wedding anniversary at the weekend, we got a box of chocolates so I am having one a day after my evening meal, it means my weight loss will be slower, but at least it makes me feel better and it’s only till they are finished which will be at the weekend.
Have you been doing the recipes out of the book? I did for the first eight weeks, then a adapted some of them, both of my family tried my meals, I just gave them bigger portions with carbs added for them, they did enjoy some of them, could you try that?
You could perhaps also say things like, I’m am so full I couldn’t eat a thing, when they offer you ‘forbidden’ foods?
Anyway good luck and keep on keeping on, onwards and downwards!
Christine

Enjoy your hols Jan! Won’t bother saying ‘be good’ because I know you will be, but if you fancy a treat, allow it! From another longtime dieter to another, you know what deprivation does to a person! We’ve got the answer to our problem now, we know it works 🙂

Hello Frog (typed Grog again there…lol) and Yowzer asked too, my heel is still painful. It was shocking yesterday after being stood all day, but the wine helped to numb it. Today not too bad, twinges here and there. Haven’t moved much though, I am so tired and off to bed shortly.

I could say a lot there Janey, couldn’t I? Hahah. No to Russell Brand, yes yes YES to Chris Moyles but not when he slimmed down. James Corden when he was in Fat Friends years ago… Johnny Vegas oooooooh I could grab those chubby cheeks and squeeze the life out of them. Yeah, I know how you get your step count up, horseriding like your colleague… :-p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5fT5jgquSI

Help me kick his butt! Oh yeh, I am a rope holder every thanksgiving Day Parade! what a long 2 mile walk down 5th Ave passing the fancy stores like SAKS, Bergdorf Goodman, and Tiffany!

I am eclectic in my tastes in men ( hold yer tongue Lucky!). I can see Russell Brands appeal and I used to think Chris Moyles was hot when he was a chubster. But not Johnny Vegas, no no 😱 On a shallow level, have Tom Hardy washed and brought to my tent.. Let’s see how those steps add up then!! 😆

Hi everyone – especially those just back from hols.
If your foot any better Lucky?

I managed 2 weeks then didnt keep it up when i went on holiday. Since getting back 2 weeks ago ive not been able to keep to a days plan. I do well in the day then evening ill pick.
So new motivation. I felt really well on it my mood balanced i lost a stone and felt calmer and more clear headed. Back on carbs im grumpy tired lethargic and irritable. Its us definately impacting my body and im taking the blip as a necessary step in needing to fully experience the physical changes. I realise i dont actually enjoy bread or pasta or flour based foods it is an addiction and i definately get cravings. So a day at a time again. Back to it.

Still keep track of it on schedule! All of life is just a crazy Roller Coaster at DisneyWorld! Lots of Ups and lots of downs! I also do not go to the gym. Such a time consuming: hour to drive to and come back + hour in gym + 30 minutes in sauna and shower! Man what time does everyone have for this.

So, I have my own gym at home for about 80 bux. Kettelbell, Strength Training ropes, and my two feet for running and walking.

If you quit; I have to quit too! We are fighting WAR OF THE PILLSBURY DOUGHBOY! I need you on my side or else we all fail!

Live Long And Prosper!

PrincetonStud

Hi all,
Yesterday I struggled with both legs and back in some discomfort, had my 15 minutes on my back massager to see if it would help, not much really. Didn’t do much at all all day, didn’t even get to church, it’s always worse in the morning then gets better as the day goes on, usually, not yesterday.
This morning I weighed in at 12.3.4 two ounces up on yesterday, not surprising really, as I hardly got any excercise!

Anyway today’s food,
Breakfast, tea, fage total yogurt, 1 passion fruit.
Midday meal, lettuce, bacon, avocado and radish, water to drink. Adapted from the bsd book.
Evening meal, salmon salad, one chocolate, water to drink.
Supper coffee nuts.
Over 800 calories under 50 carbs.

On a more positive point, my back and legs are much better today! So got a good bit of housework done.