So nice to meet you all!

Lily girl, thanks for the advice! I workout 3-4 times a week at a bootcamp (HITT style) so those extra calories will be very helpful 🙂

Flash, I totally understand how you feel. I messed my ankle up really back in 2006 and was booted for 6 months. I have injured it twice since (and the horrible boot came back D:). Don’t rush physical healing or you can hurt yourself again like I did lol! It good to know someone else that has issues with “breaks” 🙂 keep me posted on your progress as well.

igorasusal thanks for the link!

Good news on the blood tests, FB.

And good luck with the diet.

Thanks K9zz re the cream 🙂 … it is a fat … but i think the carbs in it are simple … and my own problems is that i use so much cream in the day … i can easily use 10 g. of carbs per day. I think that’s one of my worst habits … both with fats and carbs.

Hello all,
Frog thanks for webpage on low carbs. It was a real help. Depressing regarding fruit but it’s gotta be avoided.
Coady, wow, amazing a stone!!! I’m day 4 now and the only thing I’m lossing is my sanity! Actually I’m only going to weigh myself weekly so got a few days to go.
My headache has finally gone as I had to take some paracetamol for it eventually.I also had a terrible hypo at 1.30am two nights ago. I’ve never had one at night before. Ate a peach and nectarine to recover. I’ve brought my insulin down from 50units a night to 20units. No excessive highs or lows since. I did go to the GP and asked for a blood test to check that I didn’t have slow onset type 1! He stared at me like I was insane and said he had never heard of it!!! I told him to speak to someone who had and get back to me. I’ve been called back on Monday. Let’s see what happens?
I have the recipes in the 8 week book theangelwithin, do you suggest another recipe book?
Wishing you all a good and healthy weekend!
Candi

Coffee and Herbal tea all day.

I got the results of my blood test for diabetes and cholesterol.

The diabetes is negative I am in the high end for blood sugar 42 being top of normal and me being at 40.

Cholesterol 7.1 with HDL at 1.4 so there is no action from the doc’s for any of this.

But hopefully with this diet my numbers should drop.

Hey i just lost 100 pounds in the last hour ……………. misprint …. i am 236 pounds nor 336 pounds 🙂 🙂 🙂

I think of Miracle Whip as mayonnaise with extra lemon. I even make an easy tarter sauce with just Miracle Whip and green relish.

p.s. Just tried Oikos Greek Yogurt with frozen raspberries … 1/2 c yogurt and 1/4 c. raspberries …. if you like tart, and i do …. that was gooooddd!!

Hi Shalimar
That sounds really good, I’ve put it in my plan for tomorrow’s lunch – wrapped in lettuce leaves, mmmm yum.
I wondered what miracle whip was, and now I know !! Any other tasty tips, let us know 😀

Good luck to both of you!

Just to say it really does seem to be about the carb content rather than sticking religiously to the calories.

If you are working out, you can increase the calories but keep the carbs at 50g per day (cutting out the refined carbs of course) and that should be effective.

I found the following website helpful in planning the nutritional breakdown so have a look and see if it helps http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com

I’m just avoiding the canteen – seems to be ok at the moment….but I’m in charge of ‘clear up’ – wonder how much of that will be into my mouth!!! 😀

Just to add to sunshine-girl’s comments – you can get an app such as MyFitnessPal or FatSecret – there are others too, all free – which let you enter in things like coffee, milk and companies’ coffees such as Starbucks etc. You can also get the nutritional content from the net on companies’ websites.

Using an app helps you add everything up (measure exactly how much milk that “dash” is in your tea/coffee – you may be surprised!) and then you can add it in to your calories/carbs

An app also keeps you accountable and helps you plan so you don’t succumb to two cappuccinos and find you’ve no calories left for dinner. 🙁

Hi, I don’t drink tea but do have one coffee per day with semi skimmed milk, I count it into my calories and carbs and it comes out at 20 calories and 2 carbs. If it was more than one a day I would have to think twice about using up maybe 80 or 100 cals on 4 or 5 cups. I drink green tea with lemon so nothing to count but it is recommended you stick to water if you are a bit of a teapot.

Weighed in yesterday at 336 pounds. This week has been going a lot better than last.

Blood sugars except for 1 reading was under 10.

Nice flavour combination this morning : can of solid tuna in water, drained, with 1 tbsp. of Miracle Whip mayonnaise and a handful of chopped celery …. and 1/3 or so of sliced cucumber …. never tried that combo before and it was great.

Hi Kay,

Igor’s advice is excellent, as usual! I’ll echo it and also add that when I attempted my first go at this a couple of weeks ago, I also did not lose massively and quickly. I derailed so have just started again this Tuesday and my first weigh-in after only 4 days shows a 7lb loss – which is pretty much unheard of for me. It might just be that you’re settling into this new way of eating. Give it some time. Lots of people on these forums report similar to you and then a big whoosh of lost weight. You could be heading for that right now! However, what have you been eating this week? Have you cut your carbs down to around 50g a day? Are you aiming for the 800cals? Give us a bit more info if you want as it might point out some discrepancies. As Igor says, don’t despair!

Thanks snoop, I am really glad. Go girl you can also do it!
Hi Kristin….sorry I am no good at maths….it was my husband who has lost the 3 stone….I have lost 4 stone 9lbs. I was 15 stone to begin with and it took a run up couple of weeks and then two cycles of 8 weeks. I was still not at the BMI “green line area” so decided to keep going week by week until I got there . This has taken a further two weeks.
It would have been a good idea to plot everything on one thread Angiebabe but I was so absorbed in weighing things, shopping lists, getting my head around the book and keeping up with other folks posts etc I just didn’t think of it at the time.
I am definitely going to join in with a weigh in type maintenance thread soon.

Hello Sazzle, If I was you I would go and have my bloods done to see where you are. Then I would speak to my doctor and tell him that I was serious about taking control of my condition and weight and was embarking on a plan that would help with this. No need to mention 800 calories as most doctors fall off their chairs (if you are doing the 800) just say you have been looking into a healthier way of eating. You can use your previous experience as proof that you have had some success even if you have had a bit of a backslide (now you are 15 stone – am I right, not 19 so ahead of the game). Tell him you want to go back in 12 weeks and be retested to see how it is working out for you. If he insists of putting you on meds (you don’t say if you are) or increasing meds or starting insulin etc ask him to give you this breathing space to try for yourself. OKAY.

Are you able to check your own bloods, can you get hold of a machine and blood sticks, it helps to see how you are doing, mine came down from 190 to 135 in 5 days and a week later were down to 120 and now lower, so if followed to the letter the plan can be that good. Hope that has given you ‘food’ for thought – but not carbs. You can still start on Monday and get your bloods done in the near future. Or am I guessing you want to do the diet for the 8 weeks and then go and see your doctor. Either way, you need to know what your bloods are so you can tell him of the improvements. Anyway, do what works for you, stick to the plan and you won’t look back.

I have to ‘show my face’ at 2 coffee mornings tomorrow, thought I had escaped one today by another appt but found there was a stall there too!!

Actually didn’t feel as tempted as I might once have been – though it is salty crisps that are a stronger weakness for me now.

Well all that walking and working will have burnt it off…. You must feel exhausted though.

Thanks for all the replies, I have no intention of quitting, just puzzled over weight not going down. Igorasusual, thanks for that explanation, makes sense although as you say heaven only knows why visceral fat behaves differently.
Flash21, my typical meals are a green smoothie in the morning, or eggs if I’m really hungry, usually eaten late, sometimes not till lunchtime, then at the moment I’m having avocado, celery and either tuna or pink salmon, then dinner is soup, either Superfoods or Prawn Pho or Beetroot and Bean or Chorizo, all taken from the book or website. In addition I have 1 coffee with coconut milk and no carb bircher for a dessert. All calories and carbs are counted as previously stated including any milk used in tea.
BTW, Shalimar, cream isn’t a simple carb, it contains a little carbohydrate but is mostly fat.
Thanks again
K9zz

Day 1-4
3.5lbs lost.
Just 1.5lb more and it’s another stone gone.
Loving the reboot!!

It’s great to see a new number on the scales especially when you’ve been almost there for a while, well done Verano.

Hi to everyone, I have read lots of posts over the last few days. I have the books and I am armed and ready!
Just to tell you a little about me. I am from Wales, just turned 50, type 2 diabetic for about 12 years and probably menopausal. About 4 years ago my blood sugars were out of control, I was taking Metformin and injecting (not insulin). I embarked on a low carb diet and lost a huge amount of weight going from around 19 stone to 12 stone, I brought my blood sugars to normal and came off all medication. I joined a gym and got myself fit. Then I let it all slide. I have put 3 stone on in the last 18 months and I am too frightened to have my bloods done at my GP surgery because I know they are going to be bad (burying head in the sand I know).

So it is time to sort it out! I have every faith in this way of eating, I just need to get organized and back on track. I have made a plan of my menu for the week and I have done my food shopping online (to avoid temptation).

So Monday 5th Oct is the day I turn things around…again.

Thanks sunshine only having one banana as a treat if I do good next week it’s an orange sounds sad but I mean to stick to this and I have my Fitbit to help 🏃😀

Hi Kay

This is exactly why it’s not necessarily a great idea to weigh every day.

In fact some people don’t weigh at all and judge purely by measurements and clothes fit.

So please don’t talk yourself into failure – good to notice if you have a tendency to do this so you can be aware of it – have you measured, are you drinking loads, are you keeping carbs low and weighing and noting nutritional values of what you’re eating?

If so – keep on keeping on and perhaps wait to measure till a week is past?

And do use the search box to find other posts on this subject and other questions you may have.

Good luck and don’t despair. A bit early for that 😉

Mental4ever well done! Snoop, you’re so close! It’s good to have a little motivation towards a smaller goal. Hope you see 83.5, but if not you’ll still be there in no time.

Hoping I’ll lose this weekend.

This morning’s weight:
165
-2lbs
Still not back at mid vacation weight of 162. Trying to go for it as hard as I can.

Will be working on getting some fresh recipes this weekend, and exercising more. Have only been for one walk this week.

Have a good Friday everyone!!

Hi All,
Been a little busy this week so not had time to check in earlier but at the halfway point of this second round I’d dropped another 10lbs. Not quite on target for my goal of 2 stone in 8 weeks but its near enough. I knew losses were going to be slower this time and I haven’t been tracking accurately (til this weeks 7d reboot anyway).

Interesting about the break from strict 800, I do think weight loss will speed up again initially after a break but the end result may not be as much weight loss over time as if the diet had been continued. It may be that seeing fast loss is re-motivating, and it may be to reduce the risk of not getting enough nutrients on just fast 800. Doesn’t seem to have done CaptL any harm, although I think most of us will naturally have times where we increase food intake anyway for a variety of reasons. I have so much to lose I just want to keep going as best as I can manage.

Jan, sorry to hear of your family troubles hope you are coping with all that stress. x

I think all cakes eaten in the name of charity should be officially declared calorie free 😉
Well done for resisting!

Hi

I started on Monday and weighed today and was a little disappointed to only see a 0.3kg loss. Am I being unrealistic? I think I was seduced by terminology like “rapid weight loss”! (I’m starting at 95.9 kg so got lots to lose 🙂 )

read the 8 week book, got my shopping list and ready to start tomorrow. Would still like to be able to have a latte and a cup of tea with milk each day. is this off limits for the first 8 weeks? or how do you adjust the calorie intake to accommodate them?

SunnyB are you sure you are not my cousin who is also at her house in Turkey with husband Mike. Just a thought.

Today I weigh
74.7, so a total reboot loss of 0.7 of a kilo or 1.5 lbs
Fasting blood glucose 5.3 or 96

To keep on top of this thread I am putting all my daily allowance into my calculator BEFORE I eat it (although I have already had breakfast – see yesterdays mistake).

Today I will be having 26 carbs and 550 calories.

Because I don’t want to skimp on calories as I think between 750 and 800 is low enough, I will have a snack tonight of around 100 calories and no carbs and a square of very dark chocolate at 58 calories and 1 carb. Total 27.

It is working girls (I think we are all female)

Well done Coady, that is some loss. I noticed you walked into town, that is another plus. Keep it up and go easy on the bananas.

Thank you for your advice Avila, We didn’t get choices. I loved the fish and had some of the batter and about a third of the chips washed down with 2 glasses of wine. I was one of the helps so was on my feet from 6:30 until gone 10 pm. I had walked there and helped with clearing away the tables and chairs etc. So all in all a busy evening. Today I weighed the same so nothing ruined.
Onwards and downwards.

O I guess so Yowzer!

Am happy I know how to post them now, thanks to you…

After starting and restarting several times, and then this week got back on wagon, but fell off each evening up to Weds, I have done just 1 full 24hrs committed BSD and the scales were kind this morning as they said no loss or gain after 1 day…so am rolling, in a better place ( mentally I think ) to keep on keeping on…in addition, my blood sugars have come down too, so that is a result for me…

I will have to focus and try hard as the weekend looms and treats galore all around me….

I do get the planning is the KEY though, so am planning my foods ahead this morning…
Am loving the recipe book and recipes am trying so that’s good

Hey MuscleMomma,

I used to be a workout fan until a severe back injury scuppered my visits to the gym 🙁 I’m still recovering and about to go for my second round of treatment so think it’ll be a while before I can start working out properly again. I’m very impressed with your 60lb weight loss! I hope I’ll be able to hit that kind of goal (aiming to lose 100lbs if I can). Like you, I’m starting to realise I cannot have breaks or too many cheats or I just sabotage any progress I’ve made. It sounds like you have the mentality to do really well on this plan – and you definintely won’t be alone! Keep posting on here as it’s great to hear about everyone’s progress.

Lily-girl – good luck for starting this plan!

1) I love my new flannel sheets …. soooo warm and cozy …. and such a wild bold floral print (and i thought i wanted rosebuds and lace!)

2) The Mindfulness course is going to get me off my derriere to buy a printer — lots of reading!!

3) Got my interlibrary loan book …. Victoria Thompson Murder on St. Nicholas Avenue … just enJOYing and savoring every word. Love the Gaslight series … love the flavour or a different time and place …. reading in bed with my new flannel sheets!!

Think i need to get a printer!!! Lots of reading to do …. but at least i am retired.

Macmillan coffee mornings are sent by the devil to break our resolve and leave us crumbling in a corner eating Spinach and pea onmlette and quietly weeping – or is that just me!!!!

I just looked at the Kindle page and read it as being able to store your info by way of these forums. It’s the only place to do so, so I guess that’s what it means!

Y s, the logging measurements is mentioned in the BSD book, electronic version, page 118 of the Kindle version.

Hi all
Well it’s day 5 and just walked into town to get weighed and OMG I have lost a stone yes 1 stone ,14 pounds or 6.35 kl I Cannot believe it I know you lose a lot in your first week and a lot of it is fluid but I don’t care I have lost a stone and I am going to treat myself to a banana lol 😀Hope everyone else is doing good

Way to go Coady!!!

Good suggestion Vickyp.

Hope all is well …. or at least better Doordie!!

Thank you so much for posting your amazing results. Wow!!

Hi doordie
Hope all went well up the dr and you are finally getting sorted , well it’s day five for me and just walked into town to get weighed and OMG I lost a stone yes 1 whole stone yes 6.35 kg or 14lb I can’t believe it I know you lose a lot in the first week and a lot of it is fluid but I don’t care I lost a stone so I am going to have a banana yes my treat is a banana lol hope all is going well for you all 😀

Hi SunnyB

I managed to put on just 2.6lbs (usually would have been at least 5lbs) in just over 3 weeks by just not eating the really carby stuff … bread, potatoes, rice, biscuits etc. Didn’t find it too difficult to do without those foods. Did have a few oat cakes with cheese and plenty red wine to wash it down!!! White wine with the fish and chocolate after my evening meal …. but only 70%!!!!

Anyway, I enjoyed my holiday but didn’t go too mad and certainly did say ‘to hell with it I’ll eat just anything’!!! I don’t think I did too much damage and doing a strict reboot as soon as I got back has sorted the gain out.

Relax, enjoy yourself and get back into the swing when you get back.

p.s. … 7.5 grams of carbs does seem like a lot of carbs to me 🙂 … when i try for carbs between 30 and 50

I was a bit surprised at my blood sugar reading of over 10 myself today. Yes i did have lots of calories and carbs for lunch … but only about 2/3 of my allowed limit …. and i got off my derriere and had done aquabics, shopping and a short walk …. ???? it’s really going to be difficult giving up or limiting my coffee and cream … or even limiting it 🙂 🙂 🙂 I have lots of fancy teas and such … but ….

ah well 🙂

7.9 now …. and i haven’t eaten for 15 hours … 2 coffees and 2 diet drinks and some plain tea

……. frankly it was difficult to get my readings under 20 a few months ago, even with metformin

Here’s to a long long long remission … 🙂

so i am relatively happy with that ….. hungry but happy!!

My stats – updated

Day 0 weight – 83 kg
Day 5 weight – 82.2 kg
Total weight loss – 0.8kg

Breakdown of food consumption and whether I exercised.
Day – kcal (Carbs, Protein, Fats) – Exercise

Day 0 (no stats) – exercised
Day 1 – 840 (74g, 64g, 21g) – exercised
Day 2 – 1,375 (139g, 65g, 56g) – exercised
Day 3 – 840 (66g, 80g, 28g) – no exercise
Day 4 – 869 (116, 65, 25) – no exercise
Day 5: today

A special announcement today. I smashed through the sub-100kg barrier.

The scales told me 99.1kg this morning. So nice to see 2 big numbers staring back at me rather than 3.

For those working in imperial, that’s 30lb or 2st 2lb lost in 18 days.

are you counting everything you drink? I have to count 40-60 calories and 3 or 4 carbs every time i have a coffee because of the amount of cream i like. Also have to add the counts for dressings, mayonnaise, etc.

p.s. Some of these things, like my cream, are simple carbs and just hit my blood stream and the BS monitor very quickly.

And i am frankly astonished at the amount of carbs in vegetables!! I still haven’t gotten over that information.

And i have a question as well … i’ve heard of the 800 fast and doing a 5 and 2 … or even 6 and 1 …. but i don”t have any info. on what to expect just doing 1000 or so ….and how much is affected by how close you are to your goal weight.

If you are on a loosing slowly plan perhaps nothing much will show up on the scale if you weigh in daily … but maybe it will show up if you weigh in less often????

Just some questions to think about.

No Shalimar 150 grams of full cream milk which was in the latte has 7.5 grams of carbs. What I found was was that like Cdh1966 experienced, it hadn’t happened with latte over the last 4 and 1/2 weeks and my total carbs this morning were 11gms at 9 and then 7.5gms 2 hours later and yet I went outside the non T2 normal BGL. It was a lesson for me that as KrysiaD says above, T2 merely seems to go onto remission. Maybe after 8 weeks it will be different.

I think I read that too but can’t remember where.
There is a tracker on the fast diet website, maybe it’s that one I read about, so it’s also possible that there will be one added to this site in the future.

Thanks so much both, I’ve obviously made that up in my head! I will have a look at the apps you’ve mentioned

Cheers guys

siobhan

I shall look that up! Sorry to hear about your man/carb flu. I hope you feel better soon. Try something like a miso soup or bouillon broth as the salts in those might make you feel better.

Yes to the spinach!! 🙂