jonoworth

my latest tip is …. don’t buy wine!!!!

Hope to see your posts in the threads!! HUGS 🙂 🙂 🙂

Disney Nut … at least it was only a smidgen of a gain …. Good luck with the DOWNwards!! HUG 🙂

That’s brilliant!! Thank you I’ve got the books and read them, but it’s always good to talk to people who are doing something.
Thanks for the advice, it’s greatly appreciated.

Happy Thanksgiving CallMeDeb and Shalimar..hope you have a lovely day.

My scales went up 0.1kg today but onwards and downwards…looking forward to my week 1 result tomorrow morning.

Have a good week everyone.

Natalie …. just take something for the headache if you can keep it down.

I ate badly today …. actually i was sick of the unexpected sugar … and i still ate it …. i was very stoopid. But hopefully i learned from it.
Sometimes i think every bloomin thing in life is a lesson …. and i am a slow learner!!

It really is bad for our poor bodies when we don’t eat healthy … or even just too much … our lovely wonderful bodies are just trying their best.
HUGS

Christel / shalimar

It is late afternoon of day one for me and I have a nasty headache. It’s a bit earlier than I was expecting any withdrawal symptoms but maybe that means they’ll be over sooner? I’ve eaten very poorly the past two weeks so I guess this is a bit of a shock to my body. My tastebuds were very disappointed by tea with no sugar after lunch (oddly enough my morning cup with no sugar is fine, I never want sweet things until later in the day). I’m drinking plenty and including salt so it isn’t that. Just the lack of easily-converted-to-sugar carbs.

Menopause … i have been in surgical menopause for approx. 2 decades. I’m still taking a very small dose of estrogen. Although i did try not to take it …. a brand called Estroven was somewhat helpful.

I am retired now … but i did work shift work at times … mostly midnights in a donut shoppe ……. which actually turned me off of donuts … 🙂 too much !!!

If you have a staff room with fridge you are golden … you can bring anything in plastic containers… Were i worked last we had a fridge with freezer (staff pooled their money to get it) as well as a microwave and coffee maker.

Our hospital here has a cafeteria with salads and stuff …. so if it’s not open overnight you can buy BSD friendly stuff.

I would definitely bring a large plastic container with assorted delicous veggies … maybe with some hummus dip.

Can of tuna or salmon or … with can opener.

If you like coffee with cream … i would have some on midnigh shifts …. but stop drinking it halfway through a midnight shift so i wouldn’t be wired when trying to sleep.

Drink your favorite tea … bring your own if you have access to hot water …. or bring a large thermus or 2 or 3.

I would save my carbs for the just BEFORE the shift … MIDDLE of shift ….. and then stop the carbs and coffee so i could sleep when i got off shift.

ANYONE?????

Allawah,
That sounds like a great plan! I am very similar when it comes to the big ‘D’ word. I hope that this new way of thinking helps you to keep that success going!
For me I’m embracing the idea of a diet as though it were a medication prescribed by my doctor. So if I don’t take my medicine (healthy med food) I will get sicker. I think, however, if that doesn’t work for me I might try your technique!

All the best

RIGHT ON Allawah24 🙂 HUGS

Guilt and beating yourself up for not being perfect …. is counter-productive!!!

Being kind to others is wonderful … but it has to start with being kind to yourself.

I started getting myself into a ‘good place’ psychologically this last week and really got started today. In the past when I have gone on a diet, I beat myself up when I fall by the wayside, however a couple of years ago I really stuck to a new eating plan and lost about 20 kilos. Like some of you who posted the last couple of days for various reasons I went back to my bad habits and what do you know I’m back to square one.
What I have going for me now is a good basis for long term success, these are a few points I have learned (to state the obvious)
1. I am not on a diet; I want to be healthier, eat well and a by product is loose weight (very much needed)
2. As I’m not dieting if I stray I can go back to the eating plan more easily, hopefully next meal but next
day if need be.
What I’m trying to say is I’m hoping to remove the guilt and the idea of ‘starting again’.
I hope to read many great ideas from you and wish you all the success for the changes you have made to how you eat.

I see you, Christel! 😀 Hurray!
Facebook changes a lot, it is hard to keep up sometimes!

LOL …. i don’t even know how to send a friend request …. but i see i am part of the Facebook group … all is well.

I really need how to figure out Facebook!!

THANKS

karen there are a few other posts with similar questions

Hi shalimar/ Christel! Did you add me? It doesn’t seem to have come up in my notifications?

keen to hear more ,

I don’t use my Facebook much …. but i sent you a friend request ….. shalimar/a.k.a. christel

Hi all
I am going through menopause and work night duty. I plan to start on the 24 oct 2016 ( want blood tests and to write diet plan first). I was wondering if there is anyone else who works nursing hours and rotates through night and days and can provide any advice? I done the 5;2 and lost weight but then menopause happened 🙁
Starting again as i need a new life!

intersting reading, what about elocrolytes ?

I have created a Facebook group for us to use, if you are interested? I find it is an easier way to continue conversations with people on an individual level.
Join me here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1468420283184807/

I blogged about starting the BSD, if you are interested, its here: http://shimmerandglow.blogspot.com/2016/10/day-one.html

Oh wow, there are so many of us starting today! I have tried to respond to you each individually below.

Lesleyp
I’m sorry to hear that. I’m very impressed with your previous achievements, and I’m sure you can do it again! Great work!

Strictly Come Dieting
You’ve got this! It sounds like you are all organised! Happy birthday, too!

kirsty
I hope you have some success finding seeds and things! Here in Australia they are all in the health food aisle of the supermarket.

Frog
Thanks for the info on eggs! I will probably eat a lot of eggs over the course of this 8 weeks! I can imagine my cat will also be happy about the increase in fish in the house! 😀

Bluemoon
I’m starting to think it is mostly about the planning, too. Once you have all of your ingredients and foods prepped its much easier to cope!

Ren65
All the best for this leg of your journey! I too have many kilos to lose. I plan on doing the Fast 800 for eight weeks, then over the festive period going on a slightly less strict med diet (but I will take Christmas and New Years off) I don’t know how I would go sticking on the 800 for the whole of my 30+ kgs.

Tapatch
How good are eggs? 😀

Busybee
That sounds like a great plan! No excuses, just numbers dropping! You’ve got this!

MrsM
I’m happy to chat if you need an ear! I think it might be a tricky diet, but certainly not impossible. You can do it!

Angiebabe
WOW! Good job, you! That is a massive loss, you are a champ! I’m sure you will be able to keep going. It sounds like you are doing an amazing job!

shalimar
Of course you are welcome to join us! I hope that soon you are recovered from your ills! Your food suggestions look delicious, thank you!

Natalie
It sounds like you are all set, I’m impressed! I pee a lot, too! Haha! I like to think of it as one of the ways I am flushing the fat out of my system, so each time I ‘go’ I try and have a secret celebration! It might sound a bit odd, but it works for me. And your day sounds delicious! We’ve got this! 😀
Haha, you are funny with your stats! I can relate to being an apple! I wear my taste buds around the middle!

amyoz
I am also from Victoria! Small world!
Even though you have a small amount to lose you will still be confronted with the same issues those of us with more to lose have, so don’t dismiss your struggles because of that. I wish you all the best!

MissusO
I have the same hope, too. All the best for your journey, you’ve got this!

Wishbone
Hello fellow Australian! Oh wow, it sounds like you have done a massive job in the past! Maybe this bout of the BSD will bring you to your goal? Fingers crossed!

Purple
10% is a good goal! I from what I read, that is achievable with the 8 week program! Keep us posted?

I hope I managed to mention everyone! This is going to be an awesome group! We are going to do awesome things, I can feel it! 😀

Keen to hear peoples opinions too Karen.
im in similar position , gotta keep up with the pack !

hey dan , have you discovered the solution ?
i do around 80k each Saturday and used to do the carb pre load also use the elecrolyte drinks en route .
there doesnt seem to be any reserves that i can tap into.
i was under the impression that the energy stores laid down the day before are the ones that are used ?
. Im keen to hear more.

Well … Natalie … this is probably because i’m retired …. but if i sleep in … I am fine with a cup of coffee with cream for a couple of hours …. that means i only need lunch, snacks, and supper.

But most often i do 3 meals … and my veggie plastic container of snack veggies.

My main problem has been constipation …. and getting in enough liquids without making the liquids coffee with cream.

I am using diet drinks …. but with meals … i figure i’m having a few carbs … so maybe my body won’t mind a diet drink (diet drinks make the body expect sugar/fuel … so if i throw a couple of grams of veggie carbs it’s way it won’t be disappointed …. sometimes i talk to my body out loud *patting my belly … i always give it compliments for doing it’s best …. i am also promising my poor feet some poundage relief. I don’t do this in front of people though 🙂 🙂 🙂

that’s wonderful Billingebabe …. Vancouver is a lovely part of Canada.

I live in Northwestern Ontario …. Thunder Bay a relatively small city … but VERY good if you are outdoorsey at all …. surrounded by forests and lakes and right on Lake Superior … we even have Mount McKay for skiing and LOTS of hockey in the winter … and boating and cottaging, fishing and camping!! And it’s only 1/2 hour drive to the USA border …. lots of people here even just go for drive to the border … for a drink and some fun~! It can be very lovely …. i can go for a 1 kilometer walk and be in a forested area … deer are abundant as are skunks … and we do have the occasional bear. It’s a nice place to live …. and it’s a short plane ride to Toronto … but a 2 day drive!~ 🙂 🙂 🙂

One of these days i am going to visit the UK and Europe!!! I’d love to make it for the Highland Games!!! I am not well off financially but i don’t live large or cultivate expensive tastes …. but i have enough retirement money to have a nice trip or 2 every so often.
I am really quite lucky!! And i do appreciate that!!

Oh that sounds delicious – but naughty! I’m used to snacking in the afternoon so I’m feeling a bit peckish – not actually hungry because I had a lovely lunch. It’s just habit. I’ll get used to three healthy meals. But I’m still a bit disbelieving of those who say they are now happy with two meals a day or even one! Not going to happen.

You know …. i could finish my “box o wine” and then i won’t be tempted again. Cause i am waaay better at drinking it if it is cold in the fridge …. than buying it. I can resist buying any more!!

Hmmmmmmm ….. after all the Blue Jays baseball team won their series …. and today is Thanksgiving Day in Canada ….. and i definitely give thanks … Blue Jays one step away from the World Series ….

I wonder how much wine is left in that box????????????????????????????????

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

okay …. i’ve had 2 cups of wine already!!

Hi Shalimar
I come over to Canada most years to see my lovely 55 year old step daughter – from my previous marriage. She currently lives in Vancouver but used to live in Toronto. Both great cities in different ways.

Billingebabe

Edinburgh ….. always wanted to go there …. have never been across the pond!

Good on you …. my middle name is procrastination … so polish your halo!!

Gold star for hubby!!

🙂 🙂 🙂 just watching post game coverage!!

Back to 800 for me on Tuesday …. i am giving myself a day leeway!!

Greetings from the UK. Have a great Thanksgiving Day Shalimar.
Not a very well organised weekend as far as 800 calories go but full of positivity.

So my 3 positive thoughts to cover the weekend are:
Fabulous day out on Saturday in Edinburgh with my book club girlfriends. And walked 16 kilometres according to my friends app. Equals over 20,000 steps!

Lovely husband who pressure hosed the terrace whilst I was inspecting the Royal Yacht Brittania and walking!

On Sunday completed a bid to obtain a grant for my voluntary organisation. Procrastination had set in but I know it is a good piece of work.

Back to 800 today!

i am so very very very very very happy!!!!!

Blue Jays win their series
I reboot the 800 calorie on Tuesday
Holiday tomorrow … going to go for a walk … cold/sinus much better!!!

Well its less than an hour away to Thanksgiving Day in Canada …. THANKS FOR THE THANKSGIVING DAY PRESENT TORONTO BLUE JAYS!!! On to meet the winner of Boston Red Sox and Cleveland Indians. ….. and on to the World Series!!

I don’t think i need anything more to be grateful for!!!

Daniel, a good and blessed year to you from an old Aussie goyim. Glad to see you are still working towards that new wardrobe.

I know you are fasting for your soul, but it seems it does cause good physical things too, like reduced insulin and cell repair among other things

Getting over my sinus problems …. even cough is better.

Going to reboot and start the Fast 800 plan again. Going to keep at it for the whole 8 weeks …. then i may deliberately go back on 5:2 or 4:3 plan until after Christmas.

Natalie …. i am 5 ft. 6 in. ….. and i want to be 5 ft. 8 in. …… mind you i don’t want to be 26 again unless i can know then what i know now!! Of course …. i would like the figure and weight that i had when i was 16 …. i would be very very happy to have that figure at age 67!

Apple, Pear …. i am just full of a whole lot of ….. stuff!

Geez … i just added the calories and carbs for : taco chips, salsa, full fat sour cream and full fat cheddar cheese …… i would have been ok if i hadn’t had a big huge bag of kettle popcorn!!

Happy Thanksgiving CallMeDeb …. I am from Canada too!!

I am retired …. but i will join you in a walk on Monday!

I Wish us all GOOD LUCK!!

I forgot to post my stats earlier. I’m 46, 154cm tall (5′ 1/2″) and 83.8kg this morning. I would like to be 26, 168cm (5′ 6″) and 55kg! I think I’ll just work on the weight for now. Actually I’m aiming for 58kg, the top of “normal” BMI for my height, so I have 26kg to lose. Most of it from my belly. I used to be an hourglass, now I’m an apple. Full of carbs!

I think 💭 I am the only Canadian on here, but I wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 anyway.

Dad and I went for an epic drive today to look at the beautiful fall colours up north. 7 hours driving total! Long day, but really worth it.

It’s late, so I will do a full check in tomorrow, but… weigh in day will not be denied! I am down 7.6 lbs! This is more than I lost the first two weeks combined last time, so to say I’m pleased is an understatement!

Tomorrow is a statutory holiday, so no work, but definitely walks. I have to make up for sitting on my butt all day today!

Cheers for now,

Deb

Thanks RUTH i’m on4 mgs too and have been for a long time ..i feel for you re the cough coz i have it too…dry cough is also listed as side effect of perindopril
other health probs i have make me dizzy and a bit disorientated at times, but yesterday was scary..i hope thats a one off ! X

Yowzer, PS – dizziness and lightheadness is the first side effect mentioned for perindopril. I am on 4mg, so if your dose is much higher than that your doc may need to check you.

I do not think it is the low carb, just the fact that you have probably reduced your blood pressure along with your weight. Lots of studies show that weight loss lowers BP, and you have lost a lot of kilos!

Look up perindopril on google. I want to come off my small dose cos it makes me cough

Hope it sorts

Just wondered because your fast did sound like a real fast. Do you like the discipline of total fasting? I have recently acquired some books on fasting for spiritual reasons …. but i’ve usually only done a fast for dietary reasons … and because i used to feel quite cleansed and almost euphoric.

Fasting is a day of 0 calories. Just water to prevent dizziness and fainting. coffee and tea is 0 also.
800 calories is not what I call a fast. It is more like a cut in food.

Hi JAN just caught yrmessage as i was climbing into bed.. I have just blown the candles out and said an extra
little prayer as i did so x
Yes i’m on perindopril ace inhibitor ..i didnt know it had contraindications with low carb,that might explain a lot!
Mainly dizzy and nauseous today when i stood up…ok seated,but in the car today ( as passenger) was dizzy and nauseous for most of the journey
saturday was ok seated but into a hellish scenario whenever i stood up,and i dread it happening again, coz i cdnt even get as far as the kitchen coz the world was whirling round in a terrifying way and everything was going dark.
I think that was vertigo and i think thats a balance problem isnt it usually caused by ear trouble.
Feel fine now,like a spring lamb,no dizziness or sickness,on top of the world and hoping for a good sleep!
Hope you sleep well and deeply xox

Hi Shimmerling and all – great to see this new thread as I recommence today. I enjoyed several weeks & success on the BSD in April/ May this year before some planned surgery. I have continued with many of the principles since this time but not such low calories daily. I’m ready to reset to 800 calories again and try to drop the daily wine habits. I’m 54 and my goal is to lose 10% and some of that belly fat!! Good luck to everyone starting today 🍓🍆🍏

When you say you are fasting is it a complete fast …. or are you talking about the 800 cal fast?? I’ve been on fasts before, up to 3 weeks … drinking coffee, tea, broth … and vegetable juice if i was really feeling hungry at work. I used to enjoy fasting …. last month i did not.

What is in your Spanish Omelette … i’ve never made one myself although i have had one in a restaurant.

Hi frog

Thanks for the kind words, and may your Monday be less wonky.
🙂

MissusO … Hi! Glad to be on the journey with you ……………. and everyone!!

Morning all! I’m starting today, and already feeling better that there are so many all kicking off today. To be truthful, I’m returning from a stint with BSD I did earlier where I lost 9 kg and then fell off the wagon in a spectacular way. I’ve since regained 3 kg but have also regained some motivation, so here I go again. I’m also in Australia, in sunny Cairns, and I’m hoping to drop 12 kg with a goal weight of 72 kg. I found last time that the food wasn’t the problem, it was my high stress levels with work and anxiety which led to the odd relaxing wine, and it was pretty much downhill from there. So, I’ve taken some time off work, and I will be practicing mindfulness and gratitude. Looking forward to the next eight weeks!

Oh Yowser

That’s so kind thankyou.

Re your b.p. It does sound like you are most likely over medicated now, especially if you are on an ace inhibitor, your low carb will be defo affecting the function of that drug, I’m sure it will be easily sorted, do you feel dizzy if you stand up abruptly, or is it all the time.

FROM article …. link below :

But in a trial conducted for Trust Me by researchers at University College, London, those volunteers who took turmeric pills experienced no such boost to their body’s cancer-fighting capabilities.

By contrast, those who took a teaspoon of turmeric powder every day – by mixing it into yogurt or a glass of warm milk – saw a cancer-fighting gene in their cells become more active.

Dr Mosley said: “Turmeric seems to work if you take it with fatty foods and if you cook with it, but not if you just take it in the form of a supplement.”

INteresting on TURMERIC
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1940853/fish-oil-pills-taken-by-millions-of-brits-could-be-completely-useless-says-bbc-health-expert/

Maybe you should take the fish oils with fatty meal too???

STACI if youre not counting cals or carbs,you can just enjoy your apples! They will do you good.
This time of year i love russet apples,which will be in shops any day now, and i’ll find it difficult to keep to just one a week ! 🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁 x

I’m not counting calories. I’m just doing the med-style eating