It may be more of a habit, than a hungry problem. A lot of us are (were) used to evening nibbles and snacks after the day was done. Try distracting yourself on the way to the kitchen and cutting off the munchies before they start. I usually use a book, or a shower, or just read this forum, and the desire to eat often just goes.

Hi Meftl!

I hear you re: being more accurate with the counting…can be a little prone to approximation myself and need to refine things a little too. All the best with kick-starting again tomorrow morning – you’ve totally got this!! 🙂

Hi Jackieppp, You’re still with us! Fantastic. Can you have brunch, dinner and then a snack in the evening rather than breakfast, lunch and dinner? I skip breakfast, eat lunch at 13.30, dinner between 18.00 and 19.00 and always greek yogurt and berries for a snack before 20.30. This means I am doing a 17 hour fast as well as the BSD. It works well for me. It was just a thought which might help you.

Come on everyone, ideas to help Jackie please. Experience needed here I think. xx

Helloooo! I thought I’d join this merry gang too as I’m struggling a little with sticking to the plan. I was doing rather well and then a series of birthdays happened.. Oh dear. So I start again tomorrow morning. Got about 8kg to loose. Need to be a little more accurate in my counting too I feel. Wish me luck! Oh, and the same to you too! 🙂

Welcome Cara!

Hey Cara54 – welcome 🤗🤗🤗 I agree with your comment about fasting also – today I just had coffee at breakfast and a chopped up apple for lunch with plenty of water and peppermint tea throughout the day but enjoyed a really satisfying dinner of Thai chicken curry and then Greek yogurt with just and berries both from recepie book – totally delicious and very achievable for me a I have a very hectic job so usually eat on the hop anyway which isn’t good for you!!
If I have a decent portion at dinner I don’t feel deprived or hungry before bed although I know this method would not suit everyone X

Mixnmatch well done, that’s absolutely amazing!!! Low carb obviously does work 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Picked a bit for breakfast, just grazing bits and pieces from the fridge, but counted them all. Chicken and spinach with lemon juice for lunch, very simple and very satisfying. Tea was spaghetti squash with capers and parmesan, lamb merguez sausage and ‘fried’ tomatoes, onions, mushrooms, a chilli pepper and some fresh herbs. (Not enough calories left to use oil so just slung the chopped tomato in first and sautéed everything in the juice.) Feeling very full now.

Hello everyone. I also started on Monday but would like to join in with the chat. I’ve enjoyed reading the posts and feel encouraged by everyone’s weight loss. I would like to lose at least 3 stone so I really need to get into this. I find fasting easier than counting calories so I think I’ll give up breakfast for now. See how that goes.

AMGSyd, what wonderful and helpful hints! Thanks so much for your insight!

I was losing weight at around half a stone a month, but that was with a much more relaxed style than the Fast 800. I had a couple of weeks where I still tracked what I was eating but went back to eating bread, cake etc. and even drinking beer and wine, (major birthday, my half century, followed by a week camping in France.) I put a few pounds back on but immediately on restarting the 4:3 they went quickly again.

I have used the recipes for occasional ideas – things I wouldn’t think of combining etc. But mostly do my own thing certainly don’t see the book outline as a fixed plan of attack.

Yes, well worth a watch.
I angers me so much that the Doctors are happy to butcher and give pills but too PC to say ‘LOOSE WEIGHT!!’

The BSD is a dam sight less expensive than a lifetime of pills or surgery and I’m paying for it!

Rant over

Nick

I watched a programme on BBC Wales which was on just before this and the presenter followed a low carb diet for 3 weeks despite being advised not to do this by his G.P. and a weight loss expert. He lost 14lbs in weight, his B.P. dropped and his blood pressure dropped. This followed by the documentary on diabetes proved very interesting viewing. As nurse I can see how the NHS could save millions of pounds if they followed a different path and and changed their advice on diet. My sister-in-law is a very overweight type II diabetic and her G.P. seems to continue to increase her medication rather than to encourage her to change her terrible diet, and she appears happy to go along with it as it is an easier option, but in the long term I believe it will do her no good. Anyway rant over, I hope everyone is doing well, I lost 6.5lbs in my first week and I feel happier and more energised. Good luck !

Hi @cowslip. Thanks for your support. I have been logging into FMP to record my food/800cal. I looked at your comments and then found a section in the app the shows breakdown of intake by fat protein and carbs…. Guess what you are spot on it said that I had 37% carbs yesterday (my hungry day) compared to 20% and 25% on the days either side!! Whilst I didn’t think I’d had too many the proof was there!! I definitely know that I need to monitor this very carefully.
I think you may have just helped me to stay on track…. Thank you so very much!
@flash21 do you think the Keto calculator and MFP are essentially the same way of recording the data….. I had a brief look at the KC version and it seems to ask for the same info I put into MFP? I’m very new to these apps so doubt my ability all the time.
I hope everyone is having a great week again this week, half the week done…. Closer to week 3……..I’m definitely noticing a difference in how I look in my clothes this week. 😜

Took 12 bin bags full of clothes to the Charity shop a couple of weeks ago after trying on almost everything in my house. Kept only those things that I could still wear (many only with a good belt) and some new stuff that I have bought recently in sales etc. I am refusing to do a proper wardrobe refresh until my weight is both comfortable and stable, which may be sometime as I still intend to lose between 2 and 3 stone. I found a suit I have never worn and the skirt is too big! I have never worn it. Missed the window.

Hi mixnmatch 🙂

you’re very welcome. and wow – 6 st since Feb last year is amazing. you should be so proud of yourself. my goal through this is 2st and that feels insurmountable…

do you mind if i ask, did you experience much weight loss on the 4:3 version of the diet?

Hi Trelawney and all

Help!
I am still reading all the posts which I love to do but for some reason I’m on the bread. I have lost 13lb over a 3 maybe 4 month period but for the last 3 weeks nothing – not an ounce because of the bread. Daytime is fine it is evening when the munchies take over. BUT thanks for thinking of me now I’m going to get rid of this bread habit and do it properly and remind myself yet again of the title of this thread and why I need to do this.
Well, that’s enough about me – hope everyone is going good and losing weight.
Lots of love

Hi everyone

Well one day away from my weekly weigh in I can’t believe how good and energetic I feel be it in my head but my work trousers are definitely more roomy.

Food is fab and hubby and I are really enjoying the recipes it’s dead exciting trying different ones out. I was stood in the queue proud of all my healthy purchases. By the way Aldi for fruit and veg beat all the other stores by a mile and all spices are only 49p I hope all of you are doing well on week 1 it seems to have flown by since Emily got us all going. Tip: If I get hungry I’m on sparkling water which just makes me full instantly.

My bum WILL be in those leather leggings by Christmas!!

Keep smiling everybody we can do it XX

Welcome MIXNMATCH! I’ve been reading your diary thread! I’m a lurker! 😉

I haven’t got the books either but have used my own recipes and adapted them, it helps that my family is originally from Sicily so I already eat in this way but have left out the carb’s. I have never been a slave to diet books and have always been keen to experiment with new foods and if I don’t like something I just don’t make it again. Also what’s the fuss about cauliflower rice, it tastes awful, but everybody has different tastes I suppose! Anyway lost 6.5 lbs in the first week and people are already saying I look thinner, I no longer feel hungry or crave carbs. I need to loose another 18lbs to reach my target as I am tryig to avoid Type II diabetes that runs in my family. Good luck to you all xx

Well said Verano 💐

I can’t remember if I introduced myself on here or not, but although I started the Fast 800 on Monday I feel like a bit of a fraud joining the Starting the BSD thread when I have actually been following one of the less extreme programs since May 😊 I am not expecting any carb monster problems as I have been keeping my carb low since then on a 4:3 version of the diet. If anyone is interested I have started a diary thread on the Fast 800 forum, which I intend to use to log my whole journey. I have been on various diets since Feb 2015 and am currently just over 6 stone lighter than I was then. This is the first diet that really feels like it will be sustainable as a way of life when the calorie counting stops. Since Monday I have lost 2.5 pounds.

I had the chicken and asparagus salad (p.210) for dinner tonight. It was super tasty and for the first time this week I actually feel full AND satisfied (could also be because I accidentally used creme fraiche instead of sour cream – ah well!). Highly recommended!

I’ve ordered the BSD Recipe Book, hopefully it’ll arrive tomorrow and I will definitely look out for the red curry. Thanks for the heads up!

I can already taste the natural sweetness in lots of the foods I’m eating too. What a change already.

Totally empathise about the wine days Adelski…xx

Sorry I meant good enough excuse to resist haha…. See what I mean haha……I love the vino 🍷🍷🍷 x

I don’t have any of the books and have been merrily adapting recipes from other books and my own repertoire to be BSD friendly by myself. I also use some of the recipes on the site here or suggested by other posters, but usually with a few tweaks. No real disasters so far and plenty of lovely meals that will be revisited and become new permanent favourites.

Good evening everyone, hope you have all had a FANTASTIC day. I’ve just made the Thai red curry page 132 – Randam you are right, it is totally delicious and filling – my hubby thinks it’s amazing too, will definitely be having that again very soon.
Going to attempt a run tomorrow morning as I have a morning off and want to start bringing some exercise into my life again. Really sorry to hear about your gains guys but it will be temporary I’m sure and all will level out don’t be disheartened you are all doing brilliantly. For me my difficulty will start tomorrow as Friday, Saturday and Sunday are usually wine days for me so I will find it particularly difficult to break a long time habit!! On the upside the weight loss should be a good enough excuse to exist 😳😳😳
Think how amazing we will look in our Christmas outfits if we keep this up – WHICH WE WILL……
Stay strong everyone we are in this for the long haul 👗👔👯💃 XXX

day 2 – 726 & 26g – coffee/milk, pecan nuts, huge salad with mayo & black eyed beans & lots of mint tea 😀

Tomorrow is going to be tricky my mum wants to go out for lunch. I’m hoping we can go somewhere that does all day brunch type meals & I can have eggs/smoked salmon. I really don’t want to blow all the hard work.

I have done the Obesity course on Future Learn and it was excellent and very insightful. Learnt a lot from it. Might be running again shortly

Coke Zero in the 8 oz glass bottle is one of my favorite treats. I don’t drink one every day, more like every other day. There’s something about that mineral taste of the glass that makes Coke so much more delicious. Plastic bottles and cans don’t even come close. The format has the added advantage of being small and manageable. It never loses carbonation like the big plastic bottles, and there’s no metallic tinge from the can.

Well that has solved the when to eat the rest of the cheese question – I forgot to put it away when my omelette was ready and left the room…. I should have known something was up when the dog didn’t come and nag me for her dinner, and I was so apologetic that I was late with it…. then later found the empty cheese container in the garden… need to tackle her excess weight too and this food stealing is a major issue, last week she beat the childlock on the bin….

I’m an extremely picky eater, and while trying to broaden my horizons, most of the recipes in the book aren’t appealing to me either. So I’m doing my own thing while staying within the calorie/carb count guidelines.

Welcome SEASHELL! The more the merrier!

Finished lunch nearly 2 hours ago and now I’m in that yucky phase where I would normally be snacking. Ughhh…I hate it. I’m not a bit hungry, just craving something to be munching on. Must. Break. Habit.
One thing I did notice today that was fantastic, was that after 3 days of no sugar, my baby carrots tasted exquisitely sweet! As if they were filled with sugar! Yum!

Hi. A little late to the party if you don’t mind me crashing. I started on Monday too and just joined the site. I’m a married, very busy mother of two teenage+ boys and been struggling with weight for years. Lost a little over 6 lbs already, hope it continues!

Reward yourself! Little things like a new pair of socks or whatever. Little accomplishments are you key to great ones.

Day 79

An Email Message To All Jews On The Blood Sugar Diet For Good Health

Blessings for a New Year To All Jews From All Four Corners

The Jewish new year is not just a time to renew our resolve to lose another fifteen pounds. Rather, it’s the time when our fate stands in the balance as G‑d reviews our past year and decides whether or not to renew our lease on His planet. As such, Jewish greetings for this time of year (the Jewish New Year is in the fall) reflect our prayers for a good, sweet year up ahead.

The catch-all greeting you can use for the entire season is “Shanah tovah” (שנה טובה), which means “Good year.” The word “u’metuka” (ומתוקה), and sweet, is sometimes appended to the end.

Here are some other greetings that you may hear:

Before Rosh Hashanah, people wish each other “Ketivah v’chatima tovah”(כתיבה וחתימה טובה) “A good inscription and sealing [in the Book of Life].” On Rosh Hashanah eve, as we return from synagogue service, it is traditional to greet one another with “Leshana tovah tikatev v’tichatem” (לשנה טובה תכתב ותחתם). When greeting a female, this is modified to“Leshana tovah tikatevee v’tichatemee” (לשנה טובה תכתבי ותחתמי). This means, “May you be written and sealed for a good year.”

From noon on Rosh Hashanah, when our fates are already written, until Yom Kippur, when our fates for the coming year are to be sealed, we wish each other “Gemar chatimah tovah” (גמר חתימה טובה), “A good final sealing.”

Now for the Yiddish version: The standard wish is for “A gut gebentsht yohr,” “A good and blessed year” (א גוט געבענטשט יאהר). And since tradition tells us that our fate is not really sealed until Hoshanah Rabba, the customary salutation for that day is “A gutten kvittl” (א גוט’ן קוויטל), “A good inscription.”

No matter what we say, the main thing is to wish each other a good, sweet year with all our heart – because that is what G‑d values the most.
…And may you –and us all- be blessed with peace.

May you, your loved ones, and Bnei Yishrael be inscribed in The Book Of Life with good Parnassah, Refuah Sheleimah, and Beriot Tov!!!

Shanah Tova U’Metukah

I managed to drive past FOUR McDonald’s drive-ins today WITHOUT stopping for a filet-o-fish and a Coke. In my little world, that’s a MAJOR accomplishment. (I won’t pretend it was emotionally easy, but hey, I did it.)

day 4 and doing ok! so busy at work that I’m ok there, it’s at home where Im in most trouble so I did binge last night but it was on celery and a small hummus dip so I don’t feel that guilty lol!
new scales arrived yesterday and I’ve lost 4.5 lbs and when I weighed myself this morning the scales said another 3lbs had come off but I’ll take that with a pinch of salt!
I know the book encourages you to weigh yourself often but surely you should only have 1 ‘weigh in’ a week or is that too ‘slimming world’?
also is anyone else feeling a tad gassy?? please reassure me I’m not the only one propelling myself down the road of a morning 😀

In case any of you would like to learn more about anatomy a new free course is starting on FutureLearn.com called Know your abdomen. These are free of charge on line courses that are usually excellent this one is run by Leeds University & will give information about the mechanics of digestion & how our abdominal innards work!! I have just signed up & these courses don’t have to be completed in the suggested time frame but can still be accessed after the completion date.

Day 79
Thursday 6 October 2016

Breakfast: None

Lunch: None

Dinner: Sloppy Joe on zuccini

Nothing like extending the fast for another day. 48 hour fast and still alive. I am just proof that when you get rid of barley rye and wheat, you can live long time without feeling starvation only 3 hours later. I feel like a Neanderthal when they fasted for days or weeks for not finding food. 130 now and 5 more hours til sundown and can eat again!

Maybe Sunday and Monday will be another 48 hour fast. Why doing this fasting? This is the most important 10 days. New year to Yom Kippur. These are The Days of Penitence. After Yom Kippur fast is over, it is a new clean slate for all Jews……. Sins forgiven and one starts a new year with improvements in their lifestyle and their mores.

For those who are Jewish reading this:

May you and your loved ones be incribed in The Book Of Life with a good year of Parnassah and Refuah Shelaymah!

Day 78
Wednesday 5 October 2016

Breakfast: None

Lunch: None

Dinner: None

Today is Fast of Gedalia, holiday for fasting because the Babolonians (Now Iraq) destroyed the Temple in 443 BC. A god preparation though for the fast on Yom Kippur. Nothing like starving oneself! LOL 300+ pounds I think I will live.

i hate metformin, i have now lost 2 stone bloods petty good so have now dropped to half the dose look forward to more weight loss and less tablets. still on blood pressure tablets

I was low on iron earlier in the year and had tablets but it’s ok now they say. I dunno it’s just a bit rubbish at times 🙁

Day 77

Well, I had quite a sugar burst these 2 days. I have had many honey servings for a sweet new year. Hopefuly, it stays sweet! 🙂 Starvation day is next Wednesday, Yom Kippur. All day in the temple and thinking about food at 3 PM when 4 hours are only left til sundown. It was quite a successful holiday this year in a new city. My first time in an Ashkenazic (Germanic decent) temple. Always been to the Sefardic (Spanish decent) temple for the past 35 years. It was new for a change because of different customs. It is usually a good hour longer in a Sefardic one because of the custom of having an auction for the particiation in the service. This is a 500+ year old custom because of the Inquisition.

Many make a honey cake to eat on Rosh Hashanah. No, not for me. The melon and few cookies was enough for me.

@kjandtheboys 10lbs is fantastic! If you’re feeling very hungry you may need to adjust your protein \ fat count upwards a little. These satiate your hunger far more. Again, if it’s craving-style hunger you may have carbs set a little too high for your metabolism. As Flash says, more water helps too – try for 3l daily: that can also help with headaches.

@flash, I find that cravings are the first sign that my carbs are too high – is it worth checking the carb count on the shakes compared with your non-shake diet in week 1? Carb intolerance differs for individuals, so you may find it useful to double-check the carb count. If it’s actually higher this week than last, you could nudge them incrementally until cravings go again?

My youngest came home from school today having baked bread. ! had to have a sliver to avoid disappointing her and it was truly yummy, but thankfully wholegrain with hazelnuts and lots of spices: hopefully I can absorb that ounce or so into today’s carb count.

Day 77
Tuesday October 4 2016

Breakfast: 1 Cup Greek yogurt with blueberries

Lunch: 3 Sugar Cookies
Half Pepper with egg salad and piece of lox on top
Some ore egg salad

Dinner:
Slice of Honeydew
Sweet potato
2 Hamburgers

Day 76
Monday October 3, 2016

Breakfast: 4 Egg Spanish Omlette

Lunch: Eclair and fruit salad
Quarter Honeydew with Cottage Cheese

Dinner:
Rib Steak
Cantalope with honey
Honey Dew with Honey
Piece of Challah Bread with honey
Minestrone Soup one bowl

Day 75
Sunday October 2 2016

Breakfast: None

Lunch: 4 Egg Spanish Omlette

Dinner:
Minute Steak
Honeydew with Honey on it
Apple with Honey
Star Fruit
Honey Glazed Baby carrots
French Fries

First night of Rosh Hashanah, The Jewish New Year. Got to eat sweet things for the sweet new year.

Day 4 food
Scrambled egg with smoked salmon
Houmous with carrot, red pepper & celery crudités & 2tomatoes. A handful of blueberries or raspberries.
Portobello mushrooms stuffed with spinach & cheddar cheese (didn’t have any feta!)
An apple to take to French class but so far today we haven’t felt hungry.
3 coffees drunk & water
Total calories 780.

You know what they say Billingebabe

How many ….. does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one but …….. !!!

Fill in the blanks as you wish?