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  • posted by  Baristagirls on Belly Ache!!`
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    Hello Libbyohno, congratulations on your weight loss. Fantastic!
    It’s different for everyone but if that was me, then the overindulgence would be the reason, too much of rich foods or too much of any foods completely blocks me up and has me in pain these days!
    Hopefully it will clear up soon

  • posted by  topcac on Abdominal pain
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    Hi Louise – any kind of abdominal pain is probably not normal so I would really go get it checked out. Could be completely unrelated so better be safe than sorry.

  • posted by  topcac on Starting the last push to ultimate goal today ….
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    Thanks Sunny B – I can only hope that the gym is possibly making me retain more water due to the muscle repair going on in there – drinking for England to counteract that – 2.6 litres so far and counting LOL

    BTW your dinner from Saturday sounded amazing – and so did the torte…..

  • posted by  Ebs on Starting in January 2017 – Anyone?
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    Weigh in today end of 3rd week have now lost 4 kg, jeans I bought in the UK in August size 12 have been passed on to my daughter as I have dropped a size to size 10. Cant believe the loss from my stomach and hips, inches are disappearing. Hubby lost 2.5 kgs last week and had a couple of glasses of wine. Keep up the good work everyone.

  • posted by  On-a-Mission on I've REVERSED diabetes!!
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    This is amazing !!!! well done. You deserve a huge pat on the back. It isn’t easy is it. I am hoping to do the same. Same sort of readings. I was, however, diagnosed in 2005 and told to go on metformin then!!!! I held out all this time but have been really bad last two years – eating and drinking all I wanted, not exercising properly and having a shed load of stress too. I am so pleased to hear your results. My nurse was on the phone yesterday telling me to ignore this diet and go get that Hba1c straight away as I was overdue my test. I told her in no uncertain terms this time I was calling the shots – that after 12 weeks I will get it tested. And, if it is low I will ask for another diabetic glucose tolerance test – how they diagnosed me in the first place. If they wont agree I will get it done privately.

  • posted by  Zimmerframe on Non scale victories
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    May be imagining it, but has anyone noticed better energy levels? Since I’ve lost some weight all the ‘mess nests’ under beds and corners of room have been sorted out and put away. Whereas before I would groan at the thought of having to pop to the nearest shops to get milk or whatever, I now routinely run out to get things without even thinking about it! Don’t seem to be getting the early evening slump where all I seemed to want to do was veg out on the sofa and watch TV. Now I find I’m a bit restless and I jump up and tidy up the kids’ toys or empty the dishwasher. Usually jobs I would think ‘oh I’ll leave it until the morning’. Is this really all because of the diet? Did all that extra weight really affect my fundamental behaviour and thought patterns in that way? Astonishing…

  • posted by  SunnyB on Non scale victories
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    Have only recently noticed how much stronger my finger nails are and as I haven’t been doing anything else that might have benefitted them, I’m attributing this to the BSD.

  • posted by  SunnyB on Starting the last push to ultimate goal today ….
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    Hey TC, sorry to read about your disappointing weigh-in – can imagine how frustrated you must have been not to see a loss of some kind. Glad that you seem resolved to keep at it though and that your determination has not been dented. Fingers crossed for a good loss next time!

  • posted by  jmarie41 on DAILY PEAK AND PIT 2017
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    Angela:
    I am feeling the same about about this 2nd round! My motivation is not a strong. I have yet to eat just 800 calories and my weight is not going down. Since my doctor appointment goal, it has gone back up to the weight I was on January 1st. I’m feeling good about staying on the BSD and not straying from the low carb way of eating. Yesterday I ate just a few nuts and a little cheese.

    Congrats Angela on the 1.7 kg. loss! That’s a success. :–)

    My husband is gone for just a short trip this time around. He travels a lot and often to Asia or Europe. The longest he’s been gone was 18 days. Sometimes I get a chance to go with him. Last September I travelled to Vietnam with him and before that Singapore and Japan. This March I’m going with him to Belgium as I’ve never been. I went to Amsterdam once with my daughter when she had business there but didn’t go outside Amsterdam so looking forward to seeing a little more of this part of the world. On our way back, we’ll stop off at our daughter’s home in the Raleigh area of North Carolina. I’ll stay a week and half there to help her and her husband out with two of our granddaughters (age 7 and 10) while she delivers granddaughter number 5–delivery date set for March 30th unless she goes into labor earlier. We are so excited about another baby in the family!

    Angela, so glad you didn’t come down with a cold! Hope you stay warm during the cold snap!!!!
    Congrats again on the weight loss. You are doing great! You are my role model. :–)

  • posted by  LouiseOiseau on Abdominal pain
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    I’m about one week into the BSD 800. Going quite well and not too hungry. Grumpy for sure though! One thing I’m suffering with is lower abdo pain. Sort of comes and goes. Bowels ok, maybe a little loose. Anyone else having these problems?

  • posted by  Libbyohno on Belly Ache!!`
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    Hi All,

    I have been following the BSD/800 since the 2nd Jan and am now down to 14 St 12lbs (Began at 15st 10lbs!)

    We had a birthday party this weekend just gone and I was very good keeping away from the Garlic bread and Lasagna but overindulged on Olives and Cured Meats with the intention of staying on play with no carbs!! I Suffered a terrible tummy on Sunday and Monday!

    Has any one else struggled with this, or is it simply because I was quite far over calories and my body is not used to it?

    Thanks! x

  • posted by  BuffyLover on Starting in January 2017 – Anyone?
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    Hiya

    Well its week 3 day 1. I weighed in this morning and I have lost 8lbs in 2 weeks which for me is amazing. I have never lost so much in the first 2 weeks of a diet. I am going into week 3 with such a positive head and cannot wait to see further results. Clothes are already fitting better and I can see my double chin beginning to disappear!

    Hope you all have a good week :o)

    Much Love,
    Rebecca xx

  • Hi everyone, this is Day 2 for me! I’m going to try to keep to 2 litres of water per day. I drink a lot of cordial which is now out, so I’ve tried to get that quota in by the time I get home from work and I managed that yesterday. Last night I tried a tip from here and had sparkling water with lemon juice squeezed in and fresh mint leaves – it was delicious! I recently cut out wine but like a gin in the evenings so this drink will stop me reaching for that – I hope!

    I want to lose 50lbs – wish me luck! x

  • posted by  Sumo on So…it starts today: my 8 week (at least) diary
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    Flash same here book is out for a re-read, let things slip from being ill last Nov gained a stone, good thing last 2 weeks recovered that now to focus on why I want to do this for Me and no one else.

    Happy losers are happy people

  • Hi Topcac

    You have done really well, and calories from your weekend “blowout” will even themselves out over the course of the week. As far as muscle weighing more than fat, of course it doesn’t. A pound is a pound is a pound, so obviously a pound of muscle and a pound of fat have to weigh the same, but they do differ in density. This means if you look at five pounds of muscle and five pounds of fat side by side, the fat takes up much more volume, or space, than the muscle, so it is often better to keep track of your measurements rather than just your weight! ๐Ÿ™‚

    Keep up the good work, you are doing amazingly well – I’m only just starting, so a long way (or should that be weigh ๐Ÿ™‚ ) to go yet.

  • Hello everyone – nice to “meet you all” and nice to see that there are others starting out this week too. Great motivating comments in this forum so I do hope you don’t mind me joining in. I’m 5ft 3″ and need to lose over 50lbs (eek) – one of the many motivating factors… I’m starting a new job in 8 weeks (perfect timing ๐Ÿ™‚ ). One of the tasks in my new job is (from time to time) getting into a swimming pool to support young adults with disabilities – which means getting into a swimming costume (gulp!). Soooo, started the BSD yesterday (with hubby) to try and shift some of the excess weight. Not sure that I will do the 50lbs in the 8 weeks but am hoping to make a big dent in the number. I am definitely heading towards diabetes being short (excuse the pun) of the tall genes and am currently feeling very lethargic, not sleeping very well etc etc. I want to have LOTS of energy for my new job! I’ve been on every diet out there but having read the BSD book am feeling this is the right way of eating for me. Snekker, I’m going to take a leaf out of your book and take my measurements tonight and I look forward to hearing about everyone’s progress over the coming weeks.

  • posted by  Candoit on Starting in January 2017 – Anyone?
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    Hey China2013,
    I lost 10 kg last year during term 3.
    I found that I survived better by holding out for breakfast till recess, lunch straight after school and dinner around 8.
    In Mosley’s 5:2 book he talks a bit about the benefits of fasting.
    I must say, I am missing the wine but it is so much easier on the holidays.
    Drinking so much water and teaching can be a bit tricky๐Ÿ˜€
    Which country are you located?

  • Hello all – or at least anyone who’s still here on this thread!

    Reporting back in after a couple of off weeks where I’ve not been focusing on BSD stuff at all. As such I’ve also seen yet another weight gain so now realise I have to not only get back on the wagon but stay there. Said it all before, of course, but maybe this time it will stick? I’m re-reading the book and am now on the “sorting out your head” chapter, which seems apt and timely for where I am right now! I also need to do a big shop and stock up on some BSD-friendly supplies so it feels like this is a good time to do some meal planning and thinking ahead.

    How’s everyone else getting on? Inspire me please with your thoughts, progress, ideas – anything!

  • Thanks Daisiesmum – no idea what it is but it’s not going to derail me – when I think of how far I’ve come and how great I feel in my clothes and in my general fitness, I’m very proud of my achievements and very thankful for all the support I’ve received from this forum – I am using the philosophy that out bodies fluctuate naturally for no reason so a couple of pounds either way is natural and I@m just going to have to get out of the mindset that a gain is bad – as long as I can lose it again I’m happy ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by  Theodora on injury whilst exercising (Advise please)
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    Hi Marinecole

    Sorry to hear about your injury, and hope it improves soon. I know what back problems are like, so you have my utmost sympathy. You could try eating more olives, nuts, avocados, flaxseeds etc, as the oils from these have an anti-inflammatory effect. You may also need a bit of extra protein to help muscle / ligament healing. Fish oils also have anti-inflammatory properties, so increasing your intake of oily fish would cover both protein and anti-inflammatories.

    Also, turmeric has wonderful healing properties and many of my friends swear by Turmeric (or Golden) Paste – google it for recipes.There is nothing in it that wouldn’t totally fit in with the BSD – my friends’ recipe consists of turmeric, coconut oil, black pepper and water. You can add it to anything you like – drinks, eggs etc.

    Hope this helps and you are well on the way to recovery soon.

  • posted by  Angela06 on Week 3 hunger
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    Hi Cazza,
    I had a similar issue and as I’m not diabetic it was suggested that I increase my carbs a little ( I had cut them down to 20g) and taking them to 50g worked beautifully. Don’t go over though or you’ll end up with carb cravings….just as bad as hunger!

  • Aw, topcac, you don’t think it could just be the weight of the food in your system do you? Our bodies are funny things. I only ate 500 cals yesterday (back on a version of 5:2 now) and weighed the same this morning as I did yesterday. Over the weekend however, I had a bit of a struggle keeping within my BSD calorie count and yet still lost weight. Don’t despair, weight isn’t necessarily fat. I hope you have better news soon.

  • Chrysalis, I watched that Michael Mosley talk on youtube last evening after reading your suggestion, thank you. He is positively evangelical about this diet, mainly to try and stop the diabetes epidemic!

    So far so good for me, though only on my second day. First day went well and I weighed myself this morning to find I had lost 3lbs ๐Ÿ™‚ I know this is only water, but very encouraging, and I am actually enjoying the food – my ratatouille last night was delicious. Just had full fat Greek yoghurt and blueberries for a rather late breakfast (always walk the dogs first) and it felt quite decadent, like eating a bowl full of double cream!! I may skip lunch and have an early supper instead – tossing up between mushroom omelet or avocado and prawns! Then maybe a few nuts if I feel ravenous during the evening. Decisions, decisions ๐Ÿ™‚

    Didn’t find having no wine too challenging as O/H always practises Dry January, so he wasn’t drinking alcohol either. It may be a bit more of a challenge come February when he starts again, but by then I am hoping I will be well into the rhythm of the BSD and not craving it. Though the friends who inspired me to try this didn’t give up alcohol during their 8 weeks, just cut down to one glass of whisky (him) and one glass of white wine (her) per day, so if I do get tempted occasionally, I won’t beat myself up.

    I have now set up my new scales and apparently have a BMI of 29.3, body fat of 33%, and water content of 49% so I will monitor that weekly and see how it goes (hoping the first two figures go down and the third goes up!). I have also set up my pedometer, and I would recommend using one – you kind of try to outdo yourself when you can actually see how many steps you are taking, and I keep looking at it to check how I am doing, though I’m sure the novelty will wear off. So far today – and it’s only 11am – I have achieved 5,919. To be fair, most of that was walking the dogs, so the rest of the day will probably only be a few additional hundred.

    I’m feeling fine, though legs were a little wobbly going up the last hill towards home on my walk due to lack of calories, but fully recovered now, and guess my body will soon adapt. Not feeling carb flu though, or irritable, but those joys may be waiting just around the corner……….

    Hope you all have a great day, and looking forward to hearing how everyone else is doing.

  • posted by  topcac on Week 3 hunger
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    Hi Cazza – sorry to hear that things aren’t going well for you. There’s a few things you could try:

    Eat more of your calories as fat – fat has a wonderful effect on appetite and things like cheese, nuts and cream will hopefully keep you feeling fuller for longer
    Arrange to do something straight after a meal – walk or make a phonecall to a friend – usually it’s habit that makes us want to carry on eating.
    Increase your intake of water – especially hot drinks like herbal or fruit tea – these have an appetite supressing effect too
    Have a really good look at the carb content of what you’re eating – sometimes those hidden or uncounted carbs raise our blood sugars and kick start our appetite again.
    If it’s still relevant, check where you are on your menstrual sycle too – sometimes that can have an effect, especially as you found week 1 OK.
    and don’t worry – it may be that you will need a bit more time to get used to it – I’m on week 19 and I could still happily chomp through a chair leg some days!!!

    Hope that helps x

  • posted by  Marinecole on injury whilst exercising (Advise please)
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    Hi
    On week 3 (of 4) of my yearly BSD maintenance, going well. However, I have manage to cause some muscle or ligament damage to my lower back whilst training and this injury is persisting. I am wondering if the the low calories and hence low nutrients is affecting my recovery. Anybody have a position or advise on this?

    thanks

    AC

  • posted by  topcac on Starting the last push to ultimate goal today ….
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    AAARRRGGHH – week one of trying to get the last 4lbs off and I’ve managed to put on 1.25lbs!! I turned the air blue in my bathroom yesterday. I weighed on Saturday and had lost 3/4lb so dipped under 9st and hit an all time low. Was chuffed to bits…But I went out to dinner on Saturday and thought I’d been so sensible, steak, seasonal veg, creamy mushrooms, no dessert and just a small glass of Chilean Merlot (which was fab btw) and a naughty cappucino – logged it all – 1400 cals for the day and 40g carbs – weighed in yesterday (my normal day) and had put 2lbs on!! WHAT THE…….???

    Can’t explain it – not going to try – maybe it’s the gym, building muscle, maybe wine doesn’t like me, maybe I didn’t drink enough water on the weekend – it’s certainly a very fine balancing act. Anyway – back on the 800 since Sunday, gym again this morning, run row, swim, sauna ๐Ÿ™‚ – legs feel like lead lol but I WILL give this last few pounds a chance before I admit defeat and stick at 9st as my target….

    Lovely to hear all your encouraging news – keep it coming, onwards an downwards
    TC xxx

  • Morning to all you fabulous losers, maintainers and loggers and joggers and those just starting out but sticking like glue to it!

    Been frantic the last few days so apologies for not posting. Was delighted at a sneaky weigh in on Saturday (had to, as I was going out to eat and it tends to keep me on the straight and narrow) when I dipped 3/4 lb under 9 stone – fabulous. Was out for dinner on Saturday and logged everything for the day, totalling 1400 cals and 40 carbs – not bad. Back on it Sunday but grumpy to say the least that I put on 2lbs in those two days when I weighed yesterday (and today – in hope but not to be)….what the….???

    I’ve driven myself mad trying to figure out why – if I can’t even eat 1400 cals on a special night out without piling on the pounds I really despair of ever going out to eat again! Wine maybe? I put my current weight and other stats into FatSecret and to maintain it’s telling me to eat 1700 calories a day!!! Fat chance (pardon the pun). I’ll be the side of a small barn if I do that. So…back on 800 for the next few days – and start again on this maintaining lark…upped my water, went to the gym Sunday and today – is it REALLY true that muscle weighs more than fat?…..keep on keeping on ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by  Cazza633 on Week 3 hunger
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    I started 800cal three weeks ago. First week was wonderful and only had a headache day 1. I was not hungry at all and felt great. Good weight loss. Week two tougher as appetite was more obvious but managed to get through. Week 3 got harder and harder… I’m so discouraged that I’m not feeling satisfied like I did, straight after eating I get this almost constant hunger ache… anxiety is kicking in. I’m on heaps of medications so not sure if something needs to stop. Dr away until next week… Not sure what to do…. don’t want this to fail too. Help

  • Ha ha, VERANO, I hope your new nurse is an enthusiast with a positive outook. A few years ago when I was going through cancer treatment I had a very dour nurse, I found out later that other staff used to refer to her as “the grim reaper”… and then there was Scarey Mary… ๐Ÿ™‚

    But hey, these miseries only stand out because of the outstanding work and attitudes of all the wonderful nurses we usually encounter. Well done nurses, we salute you!

  • posted by  Weeble on Non scale victories
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    Good for you Angela06, some of the small things become the big things don’t they? Well done ๐Ÿ™‚
    A silly thing that I’ve noticed is that I have more freezer space now that I’m not storing cartons of ice cream and loaves of bread! ๐Ÿ™‚ More room for frozen vegetables…. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by  Mayroko on FAST800 Instagram friends
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    Hi all just wondering if anyone is on instagram documenting their journeys ?
    Thought it might be encouraging to read/see pics from everyone elses experiences
    Pls post below if you have an instagram account i could follow ๐Ÿ™‚
    Mine is dottiemay88

  • posted by  GetyourCarbon on Starting in January 2017 – Anyone?
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    It’s one heck of a slog and the motivation can wear off in week 2
    I’m 17 days in and feel good having ditched my beloved Carbs
    I was married to them and wasn’t prepared for a trial seperation !
    I remind myself that 800 is 800 and Mr Mosley would shake his head if I started saying 1000 cals here and 950 there is doing what the book says
    I find reminding myself that I have dates where I have social events where I want to attend being 7kg lighter , really motivates me when I get the incredible hunger

    Stick with it guys and let’s be posting on here in 5 weeks saying how well we’ve done rather than seeing how well others have done

  • posted by  Angela06 on Non scale victories
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    My very first NSV was being able to cut the nails on my small toes myself instead of asking husband! It was a really big deal.

    Being able to fit comfortably into hairdresser’s chairs and the gown was the second.

    And being able to walk faster and bend over easier. Small but important victories!

  • bloke41, I use apple cider as a salad dressing. The idea of drinking it has never really appealed, even with all the additions you mention. How’s your gout doing? That’s a horrible thing to suffer from. Has the vinegar had an impact on that?

    I feel like I’m still in recovery after the festive season, which goes on till 6 January here. And we didn’t even do or eat as much as we normally would. Partly I think it’s to do with the weather (we’ve had weeks of freezing fog) and the short days. It’s been sunny these last few days, though cold, and I’m starting to look forward to spring already. I reckon my metabolism and mood start to pick up around the end of February. So I might pass on the vinegar and just hold on a bit longer!

    Have a great week everyone.

  • posted by  Angela06 on Share your no.1 breakfast go-to…..
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    I started with Greek yoghurt and berries but now I have a mug of tea when I get up and a coffee with a glug of cream mid morning and though I’m ready for lunch at 12.30 I’m actually not as hungry as when I was eating. Strange. This gives me more calories for later as round 4pm I really could eat a horse.

  • posted by  PatC on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi everyone, its been lovely reading your posts, I have concentrated hard on the plan over the last week, and last Saturday was the same weight as before Christmas less the dinkiest amount, too small to get excited about but it was down a little, I have been on a plateau and have tried over the last few days to focus on the meals instead of eating what I thought was right, I have made some of the recipes on this site and made the salmon and cheese muffins (which were a breakfast suggestion but I don’t eat breakfast, ) so, I had one for lunch with spinach or salad or veg from the bbq in the night before, delicious and filling. The evening meals have all been bbq related, meat and veg really as its been too hot to cook in the flat, 38 in the shade today and no air conditioning, we went around to our daughters and sat in the paddling pool with grandson and granddaughter, lovely. Well done fairyface, I will be really delighted if anyone notices my weight loss, but its only 11 lbs and I don’t really look different except I have a thinner waist, lovely when I am wearing shorts, they now fit. I had to buy a smaller size dress yesterday and that was a rare thing to happen to me. How are you doing Margaret, are you still on the plateau it will pass as we all know, but to be honest Christmas was gorgeous but it certainly caused a lot of us a problem in either weight gain or a plateau or me just not settled and hungry, but that has passed and hopefully the weight will go down for this weigh in. We go on holiday with the family for a week for Australia Day and my birthday (one and the same day), but I will have control of what I will be eating as we have an airbnb. I really liked your advice mixnmatch, so sensible and it really helps. Sarah I hope you have had fun with friends, its so hot here, I could do with a little bit of chilly weather! Love to all. X

  • posted by  SunnyB on Moody newbie!!
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    Welcome aboard Mayroko – carb withdrawal affects us all in different ways, but I don’t think being moody and grumpy is exceptional. Our bodies will demand the carbs in the early days, causing all sorts of transient problems – headaches, moodiness, flu like symptoms, dizziness, terrible hunger pangs etc. The first weeks can be made all the tougher, by having to ride out these symptoms, but be assured that they will pass and once they have, you will start to notice the benefits other than weight loss from the BSD.

    Stick with it, it will all pass in a few days. Let us know how you get on and shout if you need advise or support, there are lots of lovely folks on the forum who can offer wise words and encouragement. Good Luck!

  • posted by  SunnyB on Starting the last push to ultimate goal today ….
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    Sorry to hear you didn’t see a loss last week Inka, but fingers crossed for this week. I admit, I was surprised to find I had a loss, considering the birthday celebrations. The dinner was lovely thanks – salt and pepper squid in a tempura batter, followed by slow roast belly pork with cabbage braised with bacon and chestnuts. Couldn’t manage dessert, but did have a slice of chocolate torte the following day!

    Well done on achieving the new low Mixnmatch and good luck with another loss this week, to get you closer to that final goal.

    The cracker flavouring sounds good Rosy. I still have quite a few left from my last batch, but I’m thinking of mixed herbs for the next one – my most recent batch had caraway seeds and some white poppy seeds.

    Please keep posting your progress, ideas and encouragement everyone. Good luck for a really successful week.

  • Mixnmatch
    Congrats on getting back to your lowest weight since your honeymoon.

    Weigh in this morning 9stone 6.75lbs. Up a quarter pound from last week – which is absolultely fine. Have been working quite hard at building more lean muscle mass so I think that even though I am maintaining my weight I am still gradually losing fat as the muscle slowly builds.

    Goal for the last week of this challenge is to lose that quarter pound.

    Verano – I do hope your new nurse will be really pleased with your progress and is much more encouraging of your efforts.

  • posted by  SueBlue on Share your no.1 breakfast go-to…..
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    I love vegetarian sausages. I’m in Australia and get the Sanitarium brand. One of those with some grilled mushroomsand a couple of tablespoons of baked beans is really filling.
    I grill the mushrooms in my sandwich press (in baking paper), the beans take 45 seconds in the microwave, and the sausage about a minute in the microwave, so its quick and easy.
    This morning I had a poached egg instead of the sausage.
    Other options could be smoothies? I had one last week with avocado, baby spinach and frozen berries, it was quite filling.