If you can, just regard it as a bonus, it will speed up your adaptation to burning fat, and if you can’t face that don’t try to eat back it all, but just a hundred calories or so.

Lol…FFBB,

I think it was just intended that we could share photos on FB. My profile picture is actually my embroidery, so I posted a picture to enable you all to put a face to the name. My brothers aren’t even friends with me on FB. I am very careful what I post. I love your rules FFBB.

Mary xxx

I am the same on fb which is why I don`t have a profile pic. My wall is just game crap.

This is my safe zone, even more so than Fat Secret.

First rule of the BSD forum….don`t talk about the BSD forum.

Second rule is…..what is said on the BSD forum stays on the BSD forum!

Too dramatic?

Hi all, started the 800 yesterday and going alright at the moment. I’ve been painting outside my house today for 9 hours and have just discovered that the work burns 320 calories an hour for my height, age and weight. Does this enter calculations. I’ve eaten 600 calories so far. Must say feeling hungry.
higgy22

Thank you, for your kind support. It’s good to get back in control🙋🙋🙋

4 weeks today since (re)starting diet
15 pounds down. I have just cracked under 200 pounds. So pleased.
Struggled on my days off work this week. I think the twinnings fruit infusions trigger my cravings so have stopped them.
Putting curry powder in my vegies to give a bit more spice and flavour.
Worried about my daughter’s upcoming 18th birthday and our family tradition of eating to excess. Even the thought of ‘just one slice’ of birthday cake makes me nervous that i will repeat past experiences and not be able to stop. We are booked in to a nice restaurant and i have studied the menu. I can make good choices but it’s the old patterns I am worried about. I have never done moderation. If I could do it , I would not be a fat T2 now. I think I may be making a big deal out of it but it’s on my mind. Hopefully my family won’t make a big deal about me not wanting to stuff myself. As it is I think the meal itself will go over 800cals. Then there’s cake…….sigh… I will accept one day off and not be hard on myself for that. Its just my ability to get straight back to the diet the next day. I have another week to prepare and plan. This is my first ‘test’. Wish I had more faith in myself.
It’s always easy for me to say no to the first chip or peanut or chocolate cake. It’s the second third fourth etc that I have enormous trouble with.
I am stoked with the 15 pound loss. 50 to go.

Makes sense snoop, i worry about maintenance big time. We have gone away on rd trip to inlaws. Things have quieted down which is good. Were also in middle of buying new place, together with work dead lines and my obsessions has made it all round stressful time for all. We have a cruise in early oct which both we are looking forward to and both need rnr to unwind. Think i will skip weigh in this week, trips away my food choices arent as good. Have a good one all, and never bloody give up!

Totally understand Snoop. I’m so open on here and have put nowt about it on fb.

I suspect Liz as owner can make it a closed group, so no way of cross leaks. I have to admit I would prefer that too!

But stay with us here. It is our safe haven
L 😘

Thanks, Mary. Apologies for the self-absorption.

As you were, guys!

Well Snoop, you have to do what is right for you. No-one here will take offence if you unfriend us from Facebook.
Mary xxx

No reason why I would post anything inflammatory on FB. But as you say, this is our safe zone. Oddly, I’ve managed to keep the same name across all my online activities. No idea how, as you’d think it would be an obvious one for lots of people to choose. So if anyone can find me here, they’ll find me everywhere! I think I have autistic tendencies and am ridiculously recluse now. It’s become a way of life and I find it very difficult to open up. This thread is quite a revelation for me.

Thanks everyone my bsd book came today so going to have a good read when I finally come to a stand still this evening will keep you all posted hopefully it will be positive lol fingers crossed I really don’t want to fail at this I need to get healthy

Snoop, I understand what you mean, but can you just not post anything inflammatory on fb? I think the only thing you will miss out on is photos anyway. This is our safe zone.

Take care,
Mary xxx

Guys, I joined you on Facebook. I thought it was a matter of being honest as to who I am . But in retrospect, I can be more honest if I stick to my alter ego only. I have work colleagues and family who are my friends on FB and I don’t want any leakage between here and the real world. I’m honest here and it wouldn’t do me any good whatsoever professionally. So I’m going to unfriend, if I can.

Let’s hope so Mary
Xxx

Bloke41, if she’s telling you your priorities aren’t right and she’s sick of people telling her how well you’re doing, it’s possibly because she’s jealous you’ve managed to make this huge change in your life and she hasn’t. If she hasn’t been able to keep pace with you, 56 kg isn’t just weight loss. She might be feeling you’ve left her behind.

One thing you’ll have to address is what happens when you reach your target. I’m no therapist, and these aren’t really issues for a public forum, but how you approach maintenance is going to be an issue. It’s not just a matter of adding calories or changing your exercise routine. It’ll be about how you drop back into a way of family life that has continued almost in your absence while you’ve been off doing your walks or eating differently. And how you do that without causing ructions or going backwards in terms of your weight and health.

Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I shouldn’t post this. Either way, best wishes.

Hey greenjanet, good to see you posting again. I empathise with you in your family upsets. There are times when all we can do is just keep putting one foot in front of the other…… good wishes to you x

Good to see you back and in good form topcac. It seems you’re getting right back on track.

As Butterlover said, it’s cold and wet here, and goodness I’m craving “stodge” -white bread, (none in the house) crumpets (n i t h) mashed potatoes (not doing it) spaghetti bollanaise (had the bol without the spag). I need to stay distracted. …..

Lee, perhaps you should hold off having any more clothes altered. You are obviously doing this right.

Good luck in Galway. My mother was from Dublin and I am well aware of Irish hospitality! I went once, didn’t drink any alcohol and still came back half a stone heavier, just from having Tea. In my Aunts house, Tea meant the whole table was laid with sandwiches, cakes and biscuits, and I was not allowed to say no.

Even if you do gain, you have the weapons to lose it again.

Love Mary
xxx

Mary, where have you been hiding? You are really shining this week. Couldn’t be happier for you at your loss and your supermarket willpower!!

Yes, the dresses were very tailored and lined. One cost me £250 and the other £180 when I purchased them, so £30 to upcycle was a good investment! He’s done an amazing job to be fair. Not his fault I had a whoosh week. It was a total 7.8lbs off this week! I just didn’t think I would do so well, so quickly on bsd…

I suspect I will gain or at the very best, stay the same after my trip back to Galway next weekend. My cousins are taking me to the Connaught senior football final, so it will be a tricky time! I’m hoping I can offer to drive…🤣😳

So, with that in mind I suspect the black and white dress will work for my cousin’s funeral on the 13th. But I do have a lovely one on order too (I think shopping is my new addiction!)

L xx

Nice fail Lee. ☺😉

Wow Lee, Congratulations!

I feel very smug at the moment. I called Joe in to witness the scales and he said yes, you are under 18 stone. I did it twice just to make sure. I have just got back from the supermarket…I looked at the wine aisle and thought….no I don’t need to go there. Then I saw some tiny bottles of wine for £2, just enough for one glass and I thought….no…I don’t need that.

£70 to take in two dresses seems a lot…are they tailored?

Thank you for your support.

Mary xxx

HI All.not much to report here.the weather is cold and wet so feeling tempted to eat a lot. I always overeat on weakends.I weigh daily and check BGL daily both are hovering at the same levels this week. So I wont get to my target by tuesday.Im not too worried as Im going on holiday to Singapore and thailand on wednesday so I will probably over eat while Im away .I wish someone would do a BSD Asian diet as its teally hardto stay off the carbs .I hope you are all enjoying your weekend.Best wishes to you all.

So 1st of july.

How about seven minutes of exercise?

Seven lots of one minute craziness.
Star jumps, or hopping, or rolly pollys, or skipping, or walking?
I think it is do-able.

Join me.

Love Lucia
Xxx

Robonamission, haha that’s absolutely hilarious!!! Although, a good problem to have, even if the neighbours now cross the street instead of walking in front of your place 🙂

Well done Mary and inka. How good do you feel right now?

I had a bit of an epic fail today….but in a nice way, sort of!
Just collected two of my most expensive dresses that I had paid £70 to have taken in. Problem is that I’ve lost half a stone (7lbs) since he pinned them, so they are too big again!!! 😇😘

Hi Mixnmatch,

That’s probably a far more sensible approach than my sudden carb load up 😁.

GM

Dreamscometrue

Lovely to read your post. Our BSD journeys are very similar. I started at 12.7 and am currently 10.4 and like you want to be 9.7 at the heaviest to bring my BMI to 25. I loved the positivity in your post and like you I enjoy being able to wear nice clothes and feel confident that I am no longer obese. At just over 10 stone and aged 56 I do feel good about myself. When I get into the 9s that will be a massive achievement but like you I am finding it hard to lose weight now as I am a slow loser – I am not complaining though- it’s been gradual and I’ve only had one week where I gained and that was after a holiday and it came of the same week- 7lb!!!! I am trying intermittent fasting and last night embarked on a 24 hour fast to see if I can get some fat burning! I am sticking to BSD principles and actually it really is a way of life now. It’s surprising how little food we actually do need isn’t it?

I think the conscious choice of food is very very liberating. My son got engaged at Glastonbury festival last week and we are going for a celebration meal in Manchester tomorrow. I’ve looked at the menu and there is only one vegetarian choice and it’s not BSD friendly but guess what, I will be having it and enjoying it! I am fasting today and will fast tomorrow until we eat. This way of eating works for me.

I’ve been wondering how Seasidenana is doing too. I know she had a new love in her life so she is probably not even giving BSD a second thought!

Keep plodding on and it won’t be long before we are both in the 9s!!!!! Never would have predicted that when I started in January.

I’ve been eating 3 times a day as, particularly in the first couple of weeks, I feel really hungry in the morning. Tend to eat at approximately 7:30, 13:00, 19:00 with my largest meals being breakfast and dinner. I also tend to plan all my meals for the week before I go shopping each weekend.

Enjoy your holiday Julia, where are you going???

Instead of all three at once, try adding back just one at a time, so in one day, add a burger with bun, or a beer, or some chips, and check again. Even someone without blood sugar issues probably has a similar rise with such a carb heavy load, they just don’t measure it.

Welcome back greenjanet, that sounds like a very sensible approach, and well done taking control again.

I went to California for my honeymoon 25 years ago and came back a stone heavier 😎😮🤐 I think it was the Huevos Rancheros at the local Mexican restaurant every morning for breakfast that did the bulk of the damage, although the fridge full of free wine coolers that we drank all day like soft drinks probably didn’t help. I have in the past been in the bottle or more of wine a night brigade, but have found that even after relaxing the diet now I am on maintenance I haven’t even been tempted to return to those days. I will have a glass of wine (or beer or gin or whisky) and just stop and drink sparkling water instead, satisfied. I have occasionally gone up to three glasses socially (or with Prosecco which is still a bit of a weakness, luckily not an everyday one), but with no cravings or difficulty the next day. I am proud of you all for facing up to your demons and dark passengers, and staying in control. The improvement in sleep quality is such a nice bonus as well.

My 50 calories a day averages over a week as 257 calories increase every week, and as I said I actually lost weight during this phase. I will be doing this again if I ever hit my ‘upper trigger weight’ of 11 stone 7 again, back down to 800 for 4 weeks then + 50 calories a day until I am back over my TDEE. It shocked me that I was still losing weight while increasing my calories by this much, but it worked. If you follow Theodora’s plan for a more gradual increase then that should work equally well. I think the traditional increase for this style of post diet diet is 150 calories a week, so my choice was quite extreme.

Well done S-G you are nailing this. Know how you feel about the rain. Edinburgh has gone from a Spring drought to non stop rain. Depressing after a while. I’ll think of you as I bask in sun and warmth later today!

Well it is still b—–dy raining here, more like a monsoon and the temperature has dropped to 18 and I daren’t look at the pool temperature. Never mind we are set for low 30’s next week.

Weighed this morning and have lost the weight I put back on plus half a pound so lost 2.5 lbs in 3.5 weeks, not good but still a loss. Still no treats over the weekend, only 2 more evenings to go.

Hi Sunshine-girl,

Thanks for the reply. You’re right it’s not exactly what I wanted to hear but I did suspect that I may have to continue to stay off the carbs for a while yet.

I’m disappointed but will continue to monitor things in the hope that some day I won’t have to avoid foods that I love so much all the time.

Kind regards,
GM

Inka13,

You are amazing. I know its not easy, especially when someone irritates you, or for me it just has to be Friday. I sat last night thinking, well its Friday, other people drink on Friday so its ok for me.
Then I thought of Liz and Madmare, and EC and Lee and you and picked up my sewing and concentrated on that instead. Keep going!

Mary xxx

I make thin almond crackers for snacking and will have them with a little cheese, as smear of nut butter or for a big treat a smear of clotted cream and half a big strawberry, or a couple of raspberries or a big fat blackberry. 30g of full fat yogurt with a few berries works as a snack too.

As sunshine-girl says, it’s a good idea to have a couple of options around, so that you don’t get bored with having the same thing every day – maybe swap out yogurt and a topping, for the eggs some mornings. Or veggie patties perhaps.

Just had to drop in to say made through night three with no wine! ( despite a stressful evening too) 😇

I did say meat products, especially processed meats, or as my doctor would say, chacuterie et fois gras. And it is uric acid or acide uree, I get my own test results by email so can analyse them for myself.

Hi GM, yes you have added in too many carbs. As you have reached an ideal BMI and dont really want to lose any more weight, stick to the no bad carbs rule but increase the other things so eat, ie and extra egg, larger portion of meat, a little more cheese. Note that it must still all be the good stuff and only increase little by little to see how your weight reacts. BUT, reintroducing burger (the bun part), chips and beer (all bad carbs) is going to have an immediate impact on your BG – so you still have an issue with blood sugar. This diet can reverse the high readings but you might have to watch those carbs forever or at least for a long time.

Sorry if this in not what you want to hear but imagine a smoker being told stopping for 10 years will put their lungs back to those of a non-smoker so they decide they can smoke again starting with new lungs – no, it doesn’t work that way. Although it wont take 10 years. In simple terms (cos I do rabbit on) what made you have a problem in the first place is still going to hurt you. Just stick with it until everything is stable then have that beer or a burger and chips as an occasional treat.

Well caz1973 you sound very organised. The Spanish soup is my favourite and I was going to have it for lunch today (like you I batch cook) but I have an avocado on the turn so will have that instead. Always give yourself choices and keep it varied so you dont get bored.

Do I remember that name, greenjanet. Welcome back. You should be pleased with yourself, you have taken control again.

Hi Minibean, yes, I am sorry to say, your girlie night might still be hanging around. You dont say how much wine was involved but imaging if the night before you got weighed and had lost 7llbs (your 6 plus one) then you drank 2 glasses of wine, that could put back the 1 you had lost, drink 4 glasses of wine and it takes off another one. Look honestly at what you had, did it make you eat something off plan, that often happens. Think about it, learn from it then move on. We have all been there.

Restarted just over a week ago and due to 3 relatives experiencing serious events it’s all gone capput again.
So weighin today starting weight 110 k aim for the week to loose 2 kilos. Due to family probs I’m just going to use MFP to count cals up to 1000 – 1200 aim for low carb but not precise as my days are to unpredictable at moment where I will eat.
So feeling pleased that I have made this commitment to myself. It’s the one thing I can get a bit of control over at the mo.

Yay for you Mary. 👍

Liz, You can call me whatever you like. I am so pleased that where I live in merry ol’ England there are no BBQ spots. I watch Diners, Drive ins and Dives. I drool at the food, marvel at the portion sizes, wonder how they produce the food for the prices quoted and think that if I lived in America I would weigh 400 lbs! Mum and dad have been to Canada 3 times and each time came back heavier and marvelling about the portion sizes. 😲😱

I also take strength from my fellow posters on here. I take each day at a time and congratulate myself every time I defy my inner voice.

Yes I want a drink, but No I won’t have one. I have already gone 1 week without a drink, 7 more weeks should be a piece of piss!

Oh Mary, Madmare and FFBB….well done….I was going to make today ….1st day of a new month, the start of greater abstinence ….I’d been better initially, but the creep has been incremental…BUT had one glass tonight and then pushed away the glass!!

also I was also going to start BSD on 1st June and started on 5th….so 4 weeks Monday may be the perfect day to stop the red!

Liz…hope your trip is easy….I personally love long drives…but 24 hours is maybe TOO long……take a HUGE thermos of tea!!….and HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!….if I remember right, it’s tomorrow?

Mary…it is beautiful where I live, and I’m eternally appreciative…can’t believe my luck, really. but many locals say they’d never live here as its cold and damp in winter (and we get little to no sun right now and my garden is permanently damp at the moment)…but those brisk walks and the dog cavorting in the frost are special. I definitely saw my breath this morning!!

On another note…I’m not a huge fan of cabbage (my mother was a very ordinary cook and memories of over-mayonaissed coleslaw and the smell of boiled cabbage (not to mention tripe!! ugggh!!.. a lifetime deterrent)….but bought a lovely red cabbage at the farmers market last weekend and made this last night….it’s DELICIOUS!! I used mirin instead of sugar (WAY less calories)…and we had it again tonight as a side…with the previous aubergine recipe also as a side and a small slice (50g) of grilled halloumi YUM…..total 304 calories according to Myfitnesspal (which seems to be super excited that I have logged in for 27 days straight!!)

happy Sunday for tomorrow all!

Ingredients

1.25kg (2 3/4lb) large red cabbage, finely shredded
2-3 red chillies, halved, deseeded and chopped
1 thumb-sized piece fresh root ginger, peeled and finely sliced
4 star anise
2 large garlic cloves, peeled and chopped
5 tbsp rice vinegar
2 tbsp soy sauce
4 level tbsp caster sugar
4 spring onions, finely sliced
2 tbsp sesame seeds, toasted
1 tbsp sesame oil

If you prefer cabbage to have less bite and be a bit softer, add more liquid and cook on a low heat, uncovered, for an extra 20 minutes or so.

Method

Put all the ingredients, except the spring onions, sesame seeds and sesame oil, into a large pan with a lid and bring to a simmer.
Cook over a low heat for 10 minutes, then uncover and cook for a further 15-20 minutes, until the liquid has evaporated.
Stir in half the spring onions and half the sesame seeds. Spoon into a large bowl and sprinkle with the rest of the spring onions, sesame seeds and the sesame oil.

Cook’s tip:If you prefer cabbage to have less bite and be a bit softer, add more liquid and cook on a low heat, uncovered, for an extra 20 minutes or so..

Mary!!!! I’m so pleased for you.
I love the way you are thinking about treating yourself by NOT having a drink. What a good way to think of it…

Safe journey Liz and Kev. I’ve never been to Florida but planning to visit my cousin in Tampa next summer (once his pool is finished!!)

BHF have been to collect some stuff this morning including all my fat clothes. Oh dear, no going back now…I can’t afford to replace again! Still got my savings jar going. It goes up to £1000 before you smash it… so I will be off to Canada 🇨🇦 with a new wardrobe ( and perhaps some Nordic poles!) Tee hee!!

Have a great day everyone

L xx 😘

If not water then the other thing that sometimes happens at the start of the 800 phase is food becomes slower to transit the bowel as there is so much less of it, and this can cause temporary weight gain. Make sure you are keeping the fibre in your diet as high as you can and just wait it out. It may also be worth trying increasing your water intake temporarily, and possibly your fat intake, I have seen both of these make a difference. Add a little salt to your food if your water intake gets very high, or you could deplete your electrolytes.