I’m doing ok, had a two day offsite meeting this week and did have some sugary stuff but straight back on the diet the following day and have stuck to it since, lost 3lbs in my first week (I’m not doing the 800, aiming for under 1200 low carb). Starting to feel better in myself. Looking forward to my cooked brunch later 🙂

Hi all, this thread has gone a bit quiet. But I have managed 8 days without sugar and feeling really good. The cravings have gone. This article was on Facebook this morning – it just goes to show how many complex things affect the way our bodies and minds work.
http://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/2017/05/30/michael-mosleys-plan-killing-your-cravings

Having said that, I’m going out for afternoon tea with my bf tomorrow; I’m moving to live in Spain in the autumn so we have promised ourselves afternoon tea in as many lovely place as we can before I go. I’m going to do it mindfully – enjoy her company and the tea consciously and without guilt.
How is everyone else doing?
SSB

I found Miso soup really helpful, just 17 calories (I think) for a mug and surprisingly satisfying. I never thought that watery soup would be enough but it really helps fill a gap sometimes!

I’m not doing the 800 diet but a low carb under 1200 calories a day version, I have 3 meals Monday to Friday and two meals at the weekend, brunch and dinner which works well for me so you should do what you find works and suits you.

I have planned abit on what I am going to eat for example 2 boiled eggs for breakfast Spanish soup for lunch and something like cottage pie with cauli mash for tea and cabbage on my fitness pal that’s coming out at about 700 what do people snack on to bring it up to 800 I am still waiting on my bsd book to arrive many thanks.

Hey Chickadees,
Just so you know, Kev and I are driving to Florida tomorrow over the next 2 days. It is a 24 hour drive which is a bastard. Anyway, my nemesis is just north of the border of Florida and Georgia where there is a barbecue shack you would sell your soul for–I’m talking pulled pork, beef brisket and the like…… I love me some southern pit bbq……
Anyhow, moving on, I hate change and as such, though I’m on the menopause, I’ve got period symptoms that are pissing me off. My tits are sore and I am swollen but I haven’t had a period since ever–actually it was February just before Mum’s stroke so I’m okay on the bleed factor but just feel like shit.
We have to go down as we have a home in Florida that we bought during the crash at a crazy bargain and are now selling as our dollar is low against the US so will make a parcel and what with Trump being him (avoiding politics) it is all a good time. So, if I am still conscious after 12 hours on the road tomorrow may post……hopefully to report I didn’t crazy indulge in southern Georgia pit bbq…..
I just love you guys, Let’s spend tomorrow doing the best we can and maybe even take a moment to say–how amazing are we.
Much love,
Liz

Hi all – glad to hear everyone is doing well and trying their best to stick to the woe. I’m plodding along losing but very slowly at this stage. Not excercising at all but hope to get back to it in next two weeks – just out of routine at moment but sticking to the woe. I have a treat occassionally – glass of wine at weekends – small bit of cake at birthdays – and even a large bag of chips one night and still managing to lose. I think if we just stick to basics and have a treat once in awhile we can’t go wrong. I’m aiming to be at goal weight by mid-September (when I go back to doc for checkup) that will mean a massive 65lbs weight loss – have lost 40 so far so am hoping the last 25 is do-able in the next 10 weeks. But if not I will be happy with even 10 loss as I know I’m going in right direction. I love the way clothes fit me now – but my boobs – my poor boobs – shrinking violets they are 🙁

Hey FFBB–but can we change that to Fucking Fabulous Bodacious Bitch!!!
You rock my world. Discovering the control we can have is amazing. I am high on learning about the new me–and you!
Keep on investing in you.
Much love,
Liz

Good morning

Still standing still here. So really pleased that I’ve managed not to put on anymore weight. Home tomorrow and looking forward to getting back to weighing, counting and logging. I think maybe it’s good to have a break from the ‘control’ now and again but to stay within the ‘principles’.

S-g glad you’re still keeping on keeping on. Hope the weighing less is working for you, I’m sure we’ll both get to where we want to be in the end. I’m also very close to my first BSD birthday and am starting to evaluate and think of my aims for the coming year. At this point in time I can’t imagine going back to eating all those carbs again. I think I like my ‘normal’ BS and cholesterol etc. too much to go backwards.

Have a good day.

Lovely thank you sunnyB and sunshine girl my support system is this forum lol but at the moment I feel very motivated I have cooked up a batch of Spanish chickpea soup it’s all portioned and in the freezer at work ready to get one out for lunch and also cooked roasted cauliflower soup portioned up and in the freezer so should have enough for 2 weeks of lunches done a few days worth of boiled eggs for breakfast, I am going to cook a cottage pie with cauliflower mash and a skinny chilli portion that up and pop in the freezer at home for days when I am in a rush for my tea everything I have cooked is food that I love so hopefully that will be ok so really all I have to do is cook for my son he’s pretty easy to feed and by Monday I should be all ready to go phew lol love the support of everyone one here I will see how my first week goes and I will report back thanks for all your help

HI everyone

Just to say I’m still here too – plodding along! I’m following maintenance rather than strict 800 at the moment and my weight is plateauing at 10 stone 4. My eventual target is 9 stone 7 and I know I will reach it sometime soon, but the diet seems to work better for me if I lose some then let things settle for a while, then step things up again to lose more.

The really good thing is that at no point have I put weight on again, even when relaxing things back a little. I am totally enamoured of this new way of eating and, as others have said, if I occasionally choose to have something “off plan” – then I make it a conscious choice, ensure it’s worth it and then enjoy! But most of the time I just really enjoy my smaller portions and healthy low carb food and have no desire to stuff myself like I used to. Wine is my weakness but I now avoid it for some nights of the week then feel free to enjoy it on others. For me the BSD has really helped me be more conscious of what I’m putting into my body. I’m eating more slowly and enjoying food more – applying the principles of mindfulness I guess – rather than shoving food in without really thinking about it.

Even though I still have a little way to go weight-wise I’m absolutely delighted with progress – I started in January at over 12 stone so have lost nearly 2 stone so far. But for me it’s more than the numbers – as well as the positive effects above it’s just such a joy to be able to fit into so many of my old clothes again and I think I look and feel better than I have done for a long time. That then has a knock-on effect on confidence and helps kick-start lots of other positive things too. I’m also sleeping better and more able to cope with stress. So it’s all good!

Lovely to hear everyone else’s news too! I can’t post often but do read every word and am cheering you all on from the sidelines!

One last question – where are you Seasidenana? Hope all is ok with you xx

60.4kg for me this morning, 0.4kg over my goal, but a short fast will sort that out. Watch this space next month!
Cheers
Linda

Well, I’m 154.4lbs, which is 1.2lbs up from last month. Definitely creeping up a bit! On the plus side, I’m the same as I was a year ago, when I reached my goal of a healthy BMI. And my check up with the nurse yesterday was fine, BP etc all good. And I’m still posting here, even when the weight is creeping up and I’d really rather not!

So, Mrs Bissell, finger out, one week of 800 should do it! I don’t want to see you back here next month any heavier!
I hope everyone else is doing fine.

Snoop im lucky cause i dont drink, wine really plays with my gout, not worth the pain. My wife keeps telling me my priorites are not right, and is sick of people telling her how good im going. Not sure why she gets so cranky. She couldnt sustain this, always tells me she will start but never sticks to it. Must admitt probably havent spent that much time with her asim alway doing my walks and exercising after dinner, better pull me socks up. Have a good one!

Oh and ffb, well done for ignoring that siren call, I think once done it gets easier the next time 😃

That’s good advice Michael, thank you. I’m really enjoying the diet so it should be no hardship to take your advice. I have ordered the recipe book from Amazon and looking forward to trying some new things! I have a lot to lose to reach a healthy weight but one day at a time 🙂

Thank you LeeLee, and I did wake up feeling great this morning, aaargh, so why do I go back? If I even have 2 glasses I only average 3 hrs sleep, have been so tired for years.
I think I’m a mix of binger AND dependent yet if I get through 2 or 3 days without wine I find it easy to go on for another week, usually till a social event details me!
BUT feeling super positive this morning and I WILL make good choices tonight!
Love the support on here, thanks again and Madmare well done on savouring and moving on to tea!!

Just a quickie.

Manged to avoid the siren call of the booze aisle in the supermarket. Avoided eating my mum’s chips at lunchtime and stuck to my planned meal (skipping breakfast is not a good idea for me) and ran an errand whilst she finished lunch.

Bought 2 glass jugs for my fridge door to chill tap water as I am informed that refilling plastic bottles is not good for the health.

PMT is due to hit on Tuesday. I know when I was doing LCHF it was hit and miss as to how I felt “in myself”/bowels/cramps. I never missed a period and I was regular so I am intrigued to see how this affects it. So far this week my mood is more even day to day that is probably due to no alcohol.

XX FFBB

Hello

I’m wondering if purition shakes would be ok as part of the daily 800 calories. I’m thinking about using them to replace one meal for example breakfast.

The ingredients are Whey Protein Isolate MILK, Flaxseed, Sunflower kernels, Macadamia NUTS, Almonds NUTS, Coconut, Chia seeds, Pumpkin seeds, SESAME seeds, Nutritional Yeast, Psyllium Husk, Apple Pectin, Stevia (Steviol glycosides)

Thank you

Madmare, well done for only having a small drink…I would have downed the bottle and sent Joe out for another! You are a star. xxxx

I agree with Esnecca, I’d be very cautious about using kombucha. I used to make and drink it myself, but now find it way too sweet for my palate having been off the carbs for over a year, so for me it would be a no. Esnecca is also right about the carb cravings issue, if you are someone who struggles with control cravings, kombucha might well make controlling things more difficult.

Whatever you decide to do, best wishes for success on the BSD.

Honey is no different than refined sugar if you’re counting carbs and/or having blood glucose management issues. One tablespoon of honey (about 20 grams) has 17 grams of sugar. Dr. Moseley isn’t specific about how many grabs of carbs a day you should aim for, but most people in this forum stick to around 50 grams. Because I’m insulin resistant, my daily limit is 20 grams, of that, I try to have no more than 5 grams in sugar, and all them come from vegetables or yogurt, no sweeteners of any kind. I don’t even eat fruit anymore.

I understand making kombucha involves a fermentation process? Fermentation does eat some of the sugar (which is why unlike cucumbers and cabbage, pickles and sauerkraut have virtually no carbs), but I have no idea how you’d be able to calculate that short of laboratory analysis.

So I guess the main questions you have to ask yourself is exactly how much honey are you ingesting in your daily kombucha and can you cut back on it? Are you concerned about your blood sugar, or are you doing the BSD purely for weight loss? If it’s the latter, would you consider yourself highly sucestible to the lure of carbs? Even if you have no worries about blood sugar, carb addicts can find it very difficult to stay on the plan if they’re eating sugar every day. It only takes a small amount to stimulate constant cravings.

I’d really concentrate on sticking to the diet and your blood sugar measurements rather than the number on the scale Kate. If there is a mean weight loss, it is unlikely to be particularly useful as an indicator of anything as the distribution of weight lost will almost certainly be bipolar as male and female weight losses will be very different if both are eating 800 calories. If you stick with the diet and some light exercise, good things will happen for you. Don’t be disheartend by big fat blokes like me losing more weight. According to MyFitnessPal, I need to eat around 3000 calories a day for a projected 2lb a week loss!

I second the comments about sleep quality.

The last few nights have been amazing, sleep wise. I put this squarely down to no alcohol.

I am not sure if I should continue drinking my daily kombucha as I am starting today this life change for me. I make my own Jun Kombucha which uses honey instead of regular sugar. Any thoughts about drinking it?

Should have added: is your OH feeling left behind or even left out? You’ve got new interests and you’re even almost a new you after all that weight loss. Maybe some old-fashioned dates or pampering might help?

Thanks Jenni from the Block. I have no idea where in the book I have “remembered” those numbers from. I have revised my expectations and am aiming for 10-15% of my starting weight, realistically 10% so around 26lbs. I’m glad you read and explained or I’d have been one very frustrated and disappointed person! Thanks again.

Love your idea of a letter of support to yourself. Haven’t read all the way down yet but I do hope it helped!

Mr Snoop is making noises about starting up again with me when I get back from the UK. But the trouble is, he (and I) both like to drink wine. And I’m going to make a serious effort to stay off it. I’m not sure what my tactic is going to be. So far, the best I can come up with is I buy him a bag-in-a-box of something cheap and not too great in order to reduce the temptation.

He also thinks this diet means no bread, pasta or potatoes but he can eat lots of lentils and the like to fill up. He’s prediabetic or perhaps even T2 but in denial. I can’t get a straight story out of him: when we’ve been to the doctor together on occasion, she’s said he’s diabetic; he claims his endocrinologist has told him he’s only pre-diabetic.

One strategy I’ve tried is drinking better wine, just less frequently. But that hasn’t worked. We’ve been drinking better wine but just as much. The nicer wine has been even more of a temptation and it’s hard on the pocket too.

As you can tell, I’m very weak-willed. Last night, we were invited to an Italian friend’s house for supper to celebrate his daughter going off to Australia. Dad will obviously see her at some point (I think he’s half hoping that when she gets settled – she’s got useful skills – he’ll be able to go over too). But we’re unlikely to see her ever again. Inevitably it was pasta for the main course and cream sponge for pud. For drink, Lambrusco (pop for grown-ups) and some other red wine. I had the Lambrusco (two whopping glasses or possibly three…) but managed not to have the other wine by refusing a glass for water and just filling my wine glass with water after the Lambrusco. Mr Snoop has had to have a lie down this afternoon to recover. Me, I’m doing a good job at not being too smug. It never helps.

Bloke41, have you come across this thread?
https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/new-life-choice-for-determined-alcoholic/page/6/#post-66273
Mostly ladies, but lots of very funny stories that have helped, along with your success, to re-inspire me.

Welcome back Topcac, well done on only gaining 5lb – I have gained 55lb since my wedding day 🙁 admittedly it was almost 26 years ago, and I’m doing something about it now, but still…
It’s great that you’ve lost 2lb already 🙂

Well done WAGILL

I personally eat 3 regular meals a day, breakfast at 8.30 lunch 1pm and dinner around 8pm I also save some calories for a small snack in the evening, before bed to stop my blood glucose from rising during the night. I still manage 800 calories and sometimes less so allow an after dinner treat of a square of very dark chocolate (10 grams at 50 calories). Being diabetic I cannot go without food for long periods but it really is up to you.

By the way, you do have a support system now. Good luck – you should be able to reverse you diagnosis.

Thanks Linda, Ec and snoop on the fasting resources. Definally will check them all out. Like trying new things, least want to try the 5 day fast once, if only just to tick it off my bucket list. Been a trying time lately with fighting with my other half about my new found obsession of walking/jogging and exercising. Its been my no 1 priority for almost 10 months now. I almost find my self doing it in secret these days to stop the nagging. Any one else having issues with other half cracking the shits? Well done snoop and fatty on ur recent weight loss, brilliant effort. Yes fatty i cant even believe my self that ive loss 56kg, its been a hard slog but worth the effort. Have a good one all and remember never bloody give up!

Hi Kate, I imagine your quote of the book saying ‘average weight loss over 8 weeks was 44kg or 52 lbs’ are typos. Just in case can I say 44kgs would be 96-97 lbs and 52 lbs in 8 weeks would be at the higher end of losses, as that is 3 stone 8 lbs or 23 kgs. Sometimes we can get dis-spirited with aiming for losses beyond the usual or possible in 8 weeks. Good luck with whatever you achieve but try to celebrate what happens for you on this journey.

Thanks for your support it means more than I can say.
Liz thank you – I was giggling, imagining me bellowing at a bottle – it is the sort of thing I would do!
Mary – your post made my day – its not only Liz who can deliver great ancedotes.

Got home last night feeling good – been to see the aged relatives (parents, been shopping) OH had made dinner (think there is a bit of guilt there!). I got in unpacked shopping, then put a bottle of wine I had bought on the table.
I sat and looked at it and it looked at me.
Silence.
I waited.
No flapping of leathery wing, no whispering from the Dark Passenger. I sat a minute longer savouring the silence and then went upstairs to change the bed.
When I came down for dinner the OH had opened the bottle and poured me a glass thinking he was being thoughtful. I was staring at the glass, the silence in my head was deafening.
I drank that glass of wine and instead of guzzling it back, I sipped it, I savoured it, I enjoyed it.
I had another one and a half glasses over the whole evening then put half a bottle of wine in the fridge and took a cup of tea to bed. I cannot remember the last time I had more than a smidge of wine left at the end of the evening. I used to not quite empty the bottle so I could pretend I had not drunk a whole one.
I am not going to be foolish enough to think he is gone, you don’t become the Prince of Lies by taking me on when I have my ‘come on if you think you’re hard enough’ head on. But when he does I am going to be shouting” MY FRIEND LIZ SAYS FUCK YOU AND SO DO I”
Its so weird, after telling the truth to you all everything seems so much clearer, like you said Liz its if a burden has lifted. I like the idea of poker chips – and I am going to start putting the money I save away and treating myself. I have my eyes on some earrings – fake diamonds!!

Anyway enough about me
Lee I too am so surprised at your doctor, since the doctors are always warning about rising levels of obesity
Don’t be demoralised – in situations like this I am starting to think WHAT WOULD LIZ DO?
So for your diabetes appointment fill up with sauerkraut and Brussel sprouts a couple of hours before hand and when they give you the high carb spiel give it the reception it deserves!!
Much love to all
Madmare

Oh and Inka, you can do this. You have the brakes in you, I promise!

I don’t classify myself as dependent, more a binger! So it actually hasn’t been the hardest bit of this for me. But I haven’t really been challenged yet in a social situation. My trip back to Galway next weekend will be interesting!

The improved sleep has been the best “side effect ” for me. So perhaps think how great you feel waking up sans wine…

Good Luck xxx

We’re all different and have to find our own way to work with the BSD. How you use your 800 calories is up to you and needs to be what suits your body and lifestyle. Some people will stick with three meals a day; some might save some calories for a snack; some extend their overnight fast and eat a brunch/lunch and a dinner in the evening. It really is up to you and it might be trial and error, to see what suits your body best.

When I first started I found I needed three meals, however these days I extend my overnight fast and generally don’t eat after 8pm or before 1pm. That’s not as long as some people manage, but it suits me. Sometimes life happens and I do eat after 8pm and occasionally I will eat a breakfast and then skip lunch. What is important is to try to stick the your 800 calories (or close to), keep an eye on the carbs, include fats to help with feeling sated and drink plenty to stay well hydrated.

Good luck with your quest and please keep us posted on your progress.

I’ll let you know just how gorgeous it is!

Right guy’s

I went for my eye test yesterday and so far nothing bad has shown up. I told the optician I had blurry vision and she confirmed that it should only be temporary .

Went to see the nurse for my 2 week check up and she nearly fell off her chair. She was amazed at my B.S. levels. Today it’s 6.8.
I’ve maintained my weight at 13st 7lb. And my BP is down again at 127/79 along with my heart rate.
So I’m very much in a positive mood today.
Thanks for your feedback and support. I’ll leave it for a week now before I update.
Have a great weekend.

Hi all i am starting the 800 and just wondered when do people eat i mean is it like brekky dinner and tea and then say no eating after 6pm is there like a window if that makes sense many thanks

Hello all

Late to the party due to copious amounts of wedding celebrations. Dared to step back on the scales yesterday and have found an extra 5lbs from when I ‘started’ this challenge. Went straight back to this WOE yesterday and have already pulled back 2lbs. Boy did I have a good time though 🙂

Still, back to it, back at work, the humdrum of normalcy is kicking in and there are still two weigh ins on this challenge. I started this challenge hoping to go under 9st. I need to lose 7lbs in 10 days. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Still – you only get married once (mostly)

FFBB 👏👏👏

Well done you. You should be very proud and deservedly so! Isn’t tea the true amber nectar??!!!

Poet Laureate Canada Liz, great idea. I’m a fb girl too so have friend requested you! Lovely pics. I can imagine myself having tea in your lovely kitchen now with the lovely Kev rolling his eyes in despair at the gaggle of women invading his kitchen! True United Nations gathering!

Bit of a weird morning for me today! Went to docs for a check up following my hospital excursion. First time I’ve seen him since my formal diagnosis of T2..

Now I love my GP. He’s always been ace and as a semi clinical person myself, we have a great rapport. So I was somewhat surprised that he wasn’t interested in my weight (I did want to show off a bit I think! 😇) my bs levels ( he said I don’t want you to test at all) or my bp (which on my assessment is dropping so significantly that I think my medication should be titrated as I’m now borderline hypotensive)

He also said, I could have done nothing to avoid T2 (it was all too prevalent in the family) but that my weight loss since 2012 had probably delayed it)

I have been booked into the diabetes clinic for the 17th July with the nurse and based on the experiences I’ve seen across this forum, I’m expecting to be given the high carb talk. Grrrr!

Can’t help but feel a bit demoralised. It’s almost like they don’t want me to be actively involved in my own health management. Well fuck em. It won’t be them losing their vision or a leg or all the other complications that could make up my future, so they will just have to deal with me as I’m the one who will be making decisions here!!

Fortunately, I have a day off today. I work compressed hours allowing me to have every other Friday off. So I will re-group and chill today. Have bought “that sugar film” on DVD and thought that Wouk be an interesting watch while snuggling with my beautiful cat Kerry!🐱

L xxx

Hi everyone, hope the week has ended well for you!
Have been laughing so much reading this weeks posts, thank you for sharing everyone and madmare and others struggling with the beastie, I feel your struggle, I’m doing the same, have avoided the word dependency but that’s what I have, to be sure! Looking back in shame I realised that apart from pregnancy and breastfeeding I have been drinking almost nightly for 30 years!! And I wonder why I can’t lose weight… it’s also all or nothing for me, if there’s wine in the house I’ll drink it, but weirdly if there isn’t I’m ok apart from a couple of twitchy moments! On Monday I decided not to drink for a month. Was gong well then felt a little down and found myself in the bottle shop. Drank the bottle. Husband away so no brakes!! ( lucky I only bought the one 😐)
Well now I’ve just done two nights sans wine and feel great! Sleeping well, minimal food cravings, great mood. Can I last?? Sorry to ramble but it really helps to write it down. Will take it one day at a time..

Hey FattyFattyBB,
Wow….well done. I was feeling virtuous because I have managed 3 days. You are marvellous and strong! Keep going.

Liz…what a great idea…can I join.

EC…I envy you so much. I hate the heat and exercise much better in the winter. Plus i love snowy scenes.

Take care for now.

Mary xxx

agreed…also away next week, so maintenance the goal

good on you Snoop for supporting your mum….the forum will support you!

Morning everyone, I have been watching Lorraine again and motivated to do some simple exercises whilst watching TV, 50 squats, 50 leg raises 100 biceps curls each arm and 100 triceps dips each arm. Still raining so no swimming.

Verano, sorry that I rambled on, I knew what I meant and my conclusion is. More weight loss = less need for insulin, less insulin = more weight loss. Therefore I still have to lose more weight and not stick happily where I am just because I look okay (and only okay, could look better).

I appear to be losing as I can see my midriff disappearing but not weighing for a few days so I dont think ‘ah ah I have lost, I can have a treat’ then go and ruin it over the weekend.

Keep on keeping on…

Stay strong Snoop. x

Hi Sambascuba,

I’m a single man, so I don’t really know much about living with kids, but I do know that cooking for one is a pain in the backside. I’ve been batch cooking at the weekend and freezing individual portions to reheat as and when I need them. Is this something you could do while cooking for the rest of the family?

My mouth is watering at the thought of smoked haddock and poached egg!!!

Hey Morten, you may be right. I did say ypu would need to be extremely fit to maintain 10% – top athletes only probably. I was working on the basis that men should have between 5 -10% less body fat than a woman. I am 68 with a body fat % of 23 and, whilst slim these days, certainly not skinny, and pretty fit, but certainly wouldn’t call myself athletic. I am, however, very happy to bow to your superior knowledge.

Thanks Rob for the reassurance and I hope that over the longer term and as I move into week 3 I can start to emulate your amazing loss. Well done you 🙂 I read in the book that average weight loss over 8 weeks was 44kg or 52 lbs, so as that’s an average I’ve managed my expectations somewhat and am aiming for around 40lbs which will be a significant chunk of my overall goal. I started a daily 20 minute brisk walk this morning as mornings are when I have more energy so that will now be part of my routine.

SunnyB…I have seen your posts on these forums and you are a great motivator, thanks for the response and reading all of your experiences and the other posters’ stories is just making me more determined to carry on with this. Oh, and also because I’m enjoying it! I’m eating things I haven’t tried before, or I haven’t eaten in years and my plan for week 3 includes smoked haddock with poached egg which I am ridiculously excited about 🙂

Nervousnellie…I totally know what you mean about gyms and changing rooms! Zumba sounds fun but I have almost zero coordination and don’t you have to do things with your legs and arms at the same time?? Not sure I could cope with that either but am sure there will be something out these that floats my boat. For now I’ll get into the walking routine and check out the Davina DVD, thanks for the recommendation.

Thanks all for taking the time to reply to my post x