According to my current Priceline Chemist scales I am about 23.3% body fat at 86.2kg’s (20kg’s of fat), I’m never sure on the accuracy of electronic scales for body fat but it does feel about right and it has been consistent. I think if I can get to about 20% body fat I’d be happy and healthy.

Still feeling great on the 800, and even though I have had a couple of days falling off the wagon it seems easy to climb back on and keep going.

Hi Cls
Hope you’re feeling better and doing ok now?
I think Mariet is probably right. Bread and noodles, pasta and pizza turn me into a human sponge…i think I almost absorb water out of the very air!
Feel so much less “sloshy” on the BSD 🙂

Is that something like the Boditrax system at david lloyds? They’re pretty good but can vary…I checked myself before training and after and the results were wildly different. I think, if you’re not already, the answer is to check on the monitor maybe once a week, same-ish time of day and always pre-training and look at the trends over time. Short of a dexa scan we’re not going to get accurate answers.

I welcome the cold feeling. Before I would eat (too much/wrong stuff) & just boil up. I hate feeling hot. Was also getting hot flushes. I’ve found both now much reduced and life is a lot more comfortable.

Many thanks for the support it’s very much appreciated. The whoosh effect certainly makes sense so I am sticking with it. Have spoken to the nurse today and she is happy with what’s happening especially as sugar levels seem to be improving the last couple of days.
You have done well with your weight loss too and your right it doesn’t help to just focus on the weight loss.
Thanks again.

I had the same thing. Once in awhile, not often, I would get so incredibly hungry. I eat my 800 well: lots of “good” veggies, protein and fat..but then I’ll get a blip one day and get so hungry. I take the view thay if Im that hungry then I need to eat and Ill double up, & maybe follow up with yogurt mixed up with a bit of dried fruit, berries nuts and seeds. Its usually just enough to keep me away from Pizza Hut (my nemesis!!).
I’ve deleted all the takeaway apps on phones now 🙂

Hey you, glad you are ok! Do you think we are the only ones left?

I’ve been doing great. Not strictly 800 per day but I’m kind of listening to my body. Sometimes I need more, sometimes less, so I reckon it all balances out. I had a bit of a whoosh this week. 9lbs off! Genuinely don’t understand how as I’m now a healthy weight but I will take it!!

Like your hubby says, I have more energy and more get up and go! But oh the temptations I face in the office each day are ridiculous. Cake and biscuits everywhere, so I feel your pain!

Off to Ireland for the weekend. I suspect I will see a gain. I will stick to bsd principles where I can, but inevitably there will be lapses. I’m not prepared to offend by elderly aunts by refusing the homemade soda bread they delight in serving me, even though I’ve always hated it! That will be hard, breaking for something I don’t enjoy!! At least I can have a full Irish every morning (minus toast) and still be bsd!!

Today, I’ve had to endure that age old phenomenon. Example:

Lee, you’ve lost so much weight now, you need to stop (turns to colleague doesn’t she Maria?) Maria nods quietly. All helpfully shouted across a busy ward.

Lee. You’ve lost so much weight, is it intentionally or are you ill? Do we need to worry about you?

Lee. You’ve lost so much weight since I last saw you. How much have you lost? Lee replies (about two stone) Yeah they say, and the rest. Are you ok?

Lee. Are you eating enough? You don’t look well. Is everything ok?

Lee. You need a cake. Go on, have a cake. It’s homemade.

All day. Seriously all day!! Why do people feel that it’s appropriate to do that? I ended up leaving work early just to get away from the constant harassment!! May well work from home tomorrow….

So glad you are still around. I shall be extending as well, due to Ireland blip, so we can do this together.

Hope the stress calms down soon!

L xxx

Interesting thread. I started on 800/day which was fine. I wasnt working and not exercising much. I started doing exercise with a PT twice a week which has been having great results, my muscle mass is increasing and fat decreasing (faster than the scales say). But then I had to start going to interviews and I was finding that on 800/day I was feeling faint and dizzy & could not focus. So on interview days and training days I up the calories to 1000. I find this keeps the fat melting and all the numbers heading in the right direction.

Thank you. I think that’s where I’ve gone wrong in he past, eating too much because of calories burnt. I’ve been yo-to dieting for 30 years! Not massively over weight but I am worried about my health.

Hi ClarinetCathy thanks for your lovely post and do hope you had a fab time celebrating your son’s engagement yesterday?

Do keep in touch via this forum! I’m aiming for the 9’s and really hope to be there very soon: but am equally conscious that life is to be lived and the BSD path is sadly often overgrown with weeds 🙂 This weekend for example I was on one of my frequent weekend visits to see my elderly mother and sometimes you just have to make the best of what is before you even if in your heart you know it is setting you back – diet-wise – a day or two. Bless her, she’d bought me a pack of Battenberg cakes to take back on the train (why?!?!) and I confess to having a couple before binning them! But I did say nicely look please don’t buy these for me again as I won’t be able to eat them all. Trying to be true to my new WOE but at the same time not completely ungracious to what was intended to be a kind gesture.

Anyway have a good week everyone and let’s catch up soon xx

Hi fba12

Firstly I would say that none of us on here are medical experts and the most important thing is to continue to ensure that your nurse is happy with what you are doing. Our bodies are all different and it’s really important to adapt this way of eating to what works for you and is compatible with your specific medical needs.

I’ve been doing the BSD in phases since January and have lost almost 2 stone with another 10 pounds or so to go to target weight. the initial weight loss is indeed dramatic (though many say it’s largely water) but do stick with it and you will lose more. But two really important things to bear in mind. Firstly we’re all different and secondly it’s not linear. My weight loss has been a case of one or two pounds off here and there then a plateau for a while, then more comes off. This is “normal” (hate that word!) for this diet – have a read of The Whoosh Effect http://100down.org/the-whoosh-effect/ to get a handle on how our bodies burn fat and it seems like nothing is happening for a while then more comes off.

I’ve found personally that you just need to keep going and not worry about numbers, but the weight WILL come off in whatever haphazard fashion it chooses!

Just one other thing that strikes me from your post is that you are fasting and I wonder if that is the right thing for you? I’m not diabetic: like many others just following this WOE for weight loss and general health improvement. But I’ve noticed that if I fast too stringently I don’t lose weight, in fact my body seems to retain it. Perhaps your body needs a “little and often” eating program so that your blood sugars are more stable? Just one thing to consider perhaps.

But above all take heart and keep at it! If you are keeping your calories and carbs low then the weight will definitely come off and if you’re not seeing that externall now then do not doubt that it will all be happening inside xx

The usual answer is no, provided you are not underweight it will be far more effective to stick to 800 and do the exercise, even if your exercise totals more than 800 calories. Don’t forget we are adapting our bodies to burn the fat and we, if overweight, are unlikely to run out of that source of fuel. Regard the calories used by your exercise as a way of accelerating your weight loss.

Mermaid…excellent news on the weight loss. Well done.

The chemical structure of sugar and alcohol is similar, I’ve been told. Of course alcohol is what happens when yeast n sugar get together. And there’s an old American saying: “Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker”. Esnecca has some very motivating things to say – thank you. Let’s keep on at this and as you said – face the obsessive addictive sugar pangs instead of giving in.

Esnecca and SaltySeaBird,

Thank you both. Wise thoughts, wise words.

I’ve read so much about sugar since about the year 2000, (for anyone who’s interested in some good reads from different angles: Potatoes not Prozac; Fat Chance: The bitter truth about sugar; OMG I Would Die Without Chocolate – How I Quit Sugar and Didn’t Kill Anyone) following which I tried to detox from it n-times. Each time I swore I wouldn’t touch the stuff again.

Obviously I know I have a problem, and have failed, time and time again. It’s not lack of healthy eating; I’ve long been a big fan of the Mediterranean Diet. I put on 15kg while writing my thesis (just having sugary somethings to get me through) and another 10kg since then. Actually more, because inbetween I have been yoyo-dieting for over 20 years.

I might have a look at Paul McKenna. Or meditate.

Thing is, we actually need to live in and around sugar. The hard part is staying on the wagon.

Good tactic Mary!

Mmm, strawberries and cream. That’s going on my shopping list!

Bigeater, well done for being in control. I am not ready to take that step yet, but I am confident I will eventually. I love strawberries and cream, but alas, they don’t love me. So if you would….pick the biggest juiciest strawberry and as you eat it, savour it and think, this is for Mary ….cheers.

I agree whole-heartedly with Esnecca – I gave up sugar for 3 months and still thought of it as a ‘treat’; I eventually succumbed to vanilla latte (I know….) and before I knew it I was well and truly hooked again.
I think somewhere else on this thread, it is suggested that you find something non-food as a treat for when you feel you deserve one but think of sugar for what it is – an addictive poison which will damage your body and brain.
For a nudge, have a look at Paul McKenna’s Stop Your Sugar Cravings – apart from telling you the truth about what sugar does to you (and it’s really not pretty), he has his relaxing mind-programming audios which really do help ward off the cravings.
Good luck with this – everyone on this thread knows what a monster sugar-addiction is.
SSB

Yay Lizzie, welcome back. Poor you having such a rough time. You do have a way of explaining things that is so refreshing, and I love reading about everything that happens to you.

Lee, when I was 30 I decided to lose the one and a half stone I had gained, and got to my pre-baby weight. Everyone told me I was gaunt and had gone too far. It was no good reminding them that I was back at “normal” weight. There are always nay-sayers and they get my back up. I did find however, the last time this happened to me (which was a very long time ago). When asked have you lost weight…I said yes isn’t it fantastic I feel so much better now….then they can’t give you their negative shit! Just bask in the knowledge that you have a size 14 dress that fits fantastically well. We know how great you are, so sod them if they don’t.

Love Mary
xxxx

I wouldn’t do it, if I were you (which I was). Thinking of sugar as a “treat” instead of a toxic substance that has done real damage to your body over the years is part of the problem. Detoxing from sugar and white carbs is difficult because the addiction preys on your mind. Giving in to that pull will only strengthen it and weaken you. For many of us, that one chocolate or sliver of pie quickly turns into a carb bender that can last hours, days, weeks, months. Even if you’re lucky enough to avoid that fate, and given how much sugar still dominates your thoughts the best case scenario is probably unlikely, you’ll set your progress back. Your body will revert to burning carbs, not fat, and mentally you could find yourself back in the white-knuckle hell of week one.

You’re on the BSD for 8 weeks. That’s a very short time, so just do it straight. Confront your obsessive thoughts instead of giving into them. You are not sugar’s slave. Don’t grovel and abase yourself to it. You are the sole master of your body.

Hi SunnyB,
I’ve had an up/down week, too. Got things seemingly back under control (i.e. back under 10st) and even managed a new low of 9st 12lb 4oz (which is only 2oz better than the previous low). But me being me, I’ve bounced back up again. I don’t fare well when I’m feeling low/tired/headachey – I thought things were improving when I upped my intake of H2O and I didn’t feel hungry over Thurs/Fri but Saturday (even though I ate similar quantities of meals) I really started to feel hungry and I wobbled big time. But today I’ve started to feel more like normal so I’m hopeful of getting back on track…

We can’t afford to let up, just got to keep on top of things. Any going AWOL has to be nipped in the bud. I am NOT going to end up at 12.5stone again. And I’m sure you feel the same.

Welcome, Antigone! Pack your rucksack & enjoy the trip!
We’ll meet you at Rivendell!

Only you Liz!!!
I love the characters you habitually come across (and their bonkers names!)

Sorry you had such a crappy (in every sense of the word) Birthday but I can’t help but laugh at your shenanigans (isn’t that a great word??)

I’ve had to endure that age old phenomenon today. Example:
Lee, you’ve lost so much weight now, you need to stop (turns to colleague doesn’t she Maria?) Maria nods quietly. All helpfully shouted across a busy ward.

Lee. You’ve lost so much weight, is it intentionally or are you ill? Do we need to worry about you?

Lee. You’ve lost so much weight since I last saw you. How much have you lost? Lee replies (about two stone) Yeah they say, and the rest. Are you ok?

Lee. Are you eating enough? You don’t look well. Is everything ok?

Lee. You need a cake. Go on, have a cake. It’s homemade.

All day people. Seriously all day!! Why do people feel that it’s appropriate to do that? I ended up leaving work early just to get away from the constant harassment!! May well work from home tomorrow….

On a positive note, beautiful size 14 dress arrived today (which I ordered for the funeral) and it fits like a dream. So yes people, it is worth it. The battle with carbs 🍞 🎂 🍟 and 🍷 is one worth doing. So well done to you all my comrades in arms!

Sorry to rant at you all, just had to get it off my chest!

L 😘

Thanks all well day one is done and feeling good and found having a black coffee no sugar after my last meal has filled me up if I have a wobble I jus log into this forum to keep me motivated just reading everyones journeys helps thanks for all the advice it really helps.

Oh Liz, you have a way with words.

Hey Peeps, Am back. Okay, so where to begin. First off–there is so much to respond to but I will do that later today. And oh my God– FLORIDA IS AS HOT AS SATAN’S BALLS IN JULY!!! We had to get here as we have sold our home here in Sarasota and need to move stuff out. Anyway, yesterday was my birthday and I mostly spent it in roadside toilets between South Carolina and here with a terminal case of the squirts. And barfed a couple of times. On the first day on the road I was feeling like shit, bloated, sore tits etc. but didn’t think I would actually get a period though and thought it was just due to all of the upheaval what with selling the Florida house etc. I don’t like change at all–ever. Virtuous me prepared healthy food for the road but maybe the cool packs weren’t enough after 12 hours as by the wee hours of day 2 I was seriously crapping for Canada. I’m talking gripping the seat, feet off the floor, rocket propelled shits.
But to make my day even better, yes, my birthday….I got my “lady bleed” (new term for me….keep reading) and didn’t have any jam rags……oh, I bought a box of vampire mice just the day before we left as I had period symptoms……. and left them on the kitchen counter back home. Idiot me. I seriously didn’t think I would actually get a period as haven’t had one in months AND AM 50 FUCKING 4–SO ENOUGH ALREADY. It’s funny, I was standing in line at the pharmacy thinking the girl probably thinks I’m buying them for my daughter as I’m way too old for these.
So anyway, here’s how my crimson wave adventure went…..
There I was with my Kev in the Deep South, barreling down I-95 through Georgia and Hell-bent for Florida, when I got my period. As we were stopping due to my squirts anyway at every roadside toilet I figured I would get some necessaries at the next gas station. Funnily, Kev finds any mention of ‘lady issues’ very unsettling but will happily gently calm and support me as I grip the dashboard in the throes of ass cramps trying not to shit my pants before the next roadside bathroom. This is a man that will race lights and sirens to an industrial accident, dislodge a severed arm from a machine, provide lifesaving care to the recent amputee but yet ask him to pick up tampons on the way home from work and he comes over all funny. About twenty years ago I added Tampax to a short grocery list that included cheese, milk, tea bags, green beans, bread and a red pepper….he came home with a bottle of Bourbon; he had drawn his line in the sand and I have kept mention of any lady related issues to a minimum.

Anyway, so the day before the trip I was out picking up bits and pieces like you do before a trip and bought a box of menthol infused tissues which I thought would A: keep the car smelling fresh….which by day two with me, Kev and the dog can get pretty rank and B: would meet our nasal needs as we both suffer allergies once we get south of Georgia as they are in full seasonal bloom and it hits us both hard. As such, and in desperate need, I discreetly grabbed a good dozen minty fresh tissues and stuffed them in my knickers until further more suitable measures could be undertaken.

At my request we pulled into the next gas hut and Kev began to fill the tank. I entered the store and combed each aisle under the watchful eye of the proprietress to no avail. Passing the hotdogs gently rolling on the hot bars under the heat lamps, and the slurpee machine offering 34 flavours, they had every possible creature in the form of jerky (dehydrated meat/salt) but no tampons. I was about to give up when I spotted them…..behind the counter. Between me and the peace of mind only another woman can understand was the biggest , and IIIIIIIIIIII mean biggest lady of African American persuasion I had ever seen. Big. Like 550lbs big. And yes, this actually happened….even I couldn’t make this shit up.

“SUGAR! CAN I HELP YOU WITH SOMTHIN’?” she drawled at full volume.

“Yes, um, I wondered if I could have, um, (vaguely pointing behind her) something of ,well, um, a lady’s nature?” I stammered with an accompanying fan-like flutter of my fingers in the region of my own deep south. Yes, I’m 54 and can’t ask for tampons.

Therein followed a long pause as she considered my request…. and then the light went on.

“YOU MEAN YOU BIN AND GOT YO LADY BLEED ON YO HOLIDAY?! WHATCHALL GO AN DONE THAT FO’? THAT IT AIN’T IT? YOU GOT YO LADY BLEED! WELL AIN’T THAT THE CUTEST THING I EVER DID HEAR—YOU WANT SOMETHIN’ OF A LAAAAADY NATURE. A FIRST I’M THINKIN’ HAIRSPRAY BUT THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU WIGGLIN’ YALL’S FINGAS AND THOUGHT NO LASHEENA SHE TALKIN’ ABOUT HER LADY BLEED—JUST A SECON’…..(she turns towards the door behind and calls through the bead curtain) LABAYA………LABAAAAAYA………LA—A—BAAAAAAAYA!!!!!!!

(after a few long moments Labaya emerges through the beads…..well, mostly, and stops with some of the strands still draping on her shoulder…. and let’s just say Labaya was Lasheena’s even bigger sister.)

‘LABAYA, COME HERE AND MEET THIS CANADIAN LADY, I KNOWS YOU IS CANADIAN ‘CAUSE YOU IS SO DAMNED PO-LITE (turning to me) GO ON, TELL HER WHAT YOU AX ME.)

wtf? I think

“GO ON, TELL HER LIKE YOU AX ME FOR THE YOU KNOW AND DO THE FINGERS.”

At this juncture I must mention that my body heat had caused the menthol infused tissues to release their caustic oils and my undercarriage was beginning to feel as if I had douched with peppermint schnapps.

Desperate to end this journey into the Twilight Zone I humoured the gargantuan keeper of the tampons and offered a quiet “I asked your sister if she had anything of a lady’s nature.”

“DO THE FINGERS!!”

I did the fingers which launched over 1000lbs of female flesh into hysterical laughter.

Then LaBaya offered: ‘GIRL, YOU SHOULDDA BIN HERE BUT A HALF HOUR PAST. THIS NEW YORK GIRL, AND YOU KNOOOOOOWS WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAYS NEW YORK GIRL (I didn’t but smiled and nodded in the hope that a positive acknowledgment was the precious token required to persuade the keepers of the tampons to dispense the sacred grail), WELL SHE COMES IN BOOOOOLD AS A HOG ON APPLES (no idea) AND SAYS SHE WANTS SOME COMDONS (sic), AND SHE NEVER SO MUCH AS BLINKED MAY THE GRACIOUS LORD LOVE HER. SO I SAYS TO LASHEENA I SAYS ‘LASHEENA, IT’S THE 20TH CENTURY (clearly in shithole county Georgia) AND WOMENS IS THAY’S OWN BOSS AND AIN’T AFEARED OF AXIN’ FO NOTHIN’ AND THEN YOU COMES IN AND YOU’S ALL LIKE ‘THINGS OF A LAAAAAAAADY’S NATURE.”

Again, they are reduced to tears and laughter whilst fanning their fingers over their lady parts then each grasping the counter intermittently to catch their breath, each further offering numerous ‘OOOOOOOOOOOH MY SWEET SACRED LOOOOOOOORD.”

Aaaaaand then LaSheena remembers her sister’s camping trip.

“LABAYA, REMEMBER WHEN YOU WENTS CAMPIN’ AND YOU GOT YO LADY BLEED AND JOE PAUL, (turning to me and whispering) he was a white boy you know, GIVED YOU A ROLL OF, (at which point LaBaya delivered her sister an arm slap, so turning to me to continue, and under her breath as if mention of her sister’s monthly deserved appropriate discretion but my circumstance was suitable for broadcast such that the trucker at pump 74 could hear as he filled his rig with diesel)….. he done handed her a handful of paper towel and a roll of duct tape and said make do ‘cause there was no ways he was goin’ in to town for no lady gear….”

Okay then.

Aaaaaaand then LaBaya, feeling my life would not be complete without sharing how her grandmother dealt with her lady bleed, offered a mercifully briefish account of how back in the day (probably last month) they wrapped old cloth around Spanish Moss and cotton buds.

Alrighty then.

“SO WHATCHALL WANT THE INSIDE POKIES OR THE OUTSIDE BIGGIE CLOTHS…THESE ONES GOT WINGS?” (she offered whilst examining the box then holding it up and pointing out the wings).

“Cyanide if it’s not too much to ask” replied my inside voice silently just as my Kev came in wondering what was holding up the road trip.

‘IS THIS YO HUSBAND? OH WEEZ TALKIN’ ABOUT THINGS OF A LADY’S NATURE!!!! He left without question.

I finally got the requisite “lady gear”, retreated to the restroom, then return to the car, after receiving numerous “GOD BLESS YOU GIRL”(s) to find my Kev waiting patiently or rather too afraid to ask about the cause for the delay. So between an ass as red as a baboon’s–sore from all the wiping due to my turbo shits episode AND my fucking period plus still healing from the humiliation of having to actually ask a total stranger for lady gear I’m feeling a bit fragile. BUT have not had booze and am off now to the pool for a soak.

I’ll have a proper read of all of your news tonight and respond as I go. Love you chicks huge. No wait. I hugely love you chicks. No. Fuck–drop the huge and just know I love you. Fuck. Not demanding you lose weight. Love you the way you are and am off for a cup of tea to think of you and reset my goals. I can’t use the “but I had a shit birthday (HAHAHAHA–ACTUALLY HAD THE SHITS ON MY BIRTHDAY) and deserve a treat” line that was creeping into my logic. Tea and you will realign me.

Menstrually yours, Liz

Hey Michael, that’s seriously impressive. You must be able to see and feel the difference by now as well surely? Seriously chuffed for you 🙂

My diet and exercise regime sounds very similar. I think sometimes its best to re-look at what we are eating and also use My fitness pal. If I don’t write it down then that’s when the calories increase. I try not to eat additional calories if I have exercised.

Very pleased thank you Sunshine Girl. Even more pleased that I’m feeling better than I was in week 2 as it gives me confidence in completing the full 8 weeks 🙂

Hi sweet things/ sugar lovers!

Day 3 of week 3 and 4.5 kg down since BSD started! I’m pretty pleased with myself, so far! Weight loss has come in fits and starts, rather than smoothly. Zero in week 2, then whoosh!

I am feeling better, clear headed etc. but sometimes tired (I workout a lot). However, I think about food all the time. I wish I could say that I’m over sugar, but I know who would survive if me and a chocolate cake were locked in a room… so I must see myself as an addict. Once a sugarholic, always a sugarholic? I like a drink, but can resist when necessary.

I’ve promised myself a treat after 4 weeks on the BSD, is that crazy? Or should I train myself to be able to have a little every now and again?

Hi, on a slightly similar question. I think 800 calories is quite low and I therefore wonder if it’s ok to “eat” the calories earned from exercise. I usually earn 200-300 calories a day from walking, but sometimes on long day walks it’s 1000 according to My Fitness Pal. Is it ok to eat more calories on these days, providing it’s still low carb?

Hi Lucia,

Found you at last (I only switch on my computer occasionally and I can’t reply easily from my phone)

So what’s the “new challenge” you mentioned in yours of 29th June?

John

Lynne,

Nice to catch up.

Well done everybody.

Bissell, SNAP (154lbs). I was last this weight in 1993 and have finally arrived back at my “targe” via 16 stones in 2010. As I’ve shrunk by 2 inches since then, I reckon I reallyh ought to go for 147lbs so here goes…..

Thank goodness for MM and the Prof

John

Many thanks for this. Your diet sounds similar to mine and I exercise daily – swim,gym, walking or Pilates. I don’t include any extra calories for exercise at the moment. I will stick with it at least until the 8 weeks is up and hopefully the weight will start to move again soon. At least reading the forum you realise the weight doesn’t drop off as quickly as the book states. Thanks again.

I started the BSD back in February and have since been following the way of life style of eating and can’t praise it highly enough. I would make just one main point however for the lean diabetics or those referred to on here as “Tofi’s”. I struggled to find much guidance for those who are already pretty lean and considered myself a Tofi even though my waist measurement was 31 inches at the start (I’m 5 foot 9). Whilst I feel better, look younger and am in better shape than at any time during my life, some of my sugars have simply failed to come down regardless of how strict my eating plan is, how strenuous the HIIT I engage in and no matter how much research I do I into bedtime snacks/cider vinegar etc(!) or at least the improvements are often short lived. Being a bit of a control freak I have researched this extensively and uncovered a huge amount of information about the great number of reasons for type 2 that are not necessarily visceral fat and therefore unlikely be cured that way either (although less fat on your body can only be a good thing). Dr Moseley’s book made me incredibly wary of medication – I’m certainly glad I have delayed taking any as it’s allowed me to assess the real impact of any changes and as my sugar levels weren’t rocket high, it shouldn’t have done too much harm but given my research, I would give a word of caution for those lean newly diagnosed diabetics out there. If it isn’t visceral fat that is your problem (i.e. your waist measurement is below the threshold dr Moseley mentions) it may be that your type 2 is caused by one of a number of genetic defects that is causing the destruction of your beta cells and preserving those you have left is crucial and combined with all the changes Dr Moseley advocates, small amounts of medication may actually the best way of preserving those you have left/giving the existing ones a rest to allow function to be restored. I will forever be in Dr Moseley’s debt for explaining the condition to me in such an accessible way, giving me some evidence based hope and above all, the motivation to make different decisions about eating and exercise every single day and also one that my family could get to grips with but don’t necessarily presume that medication is the beginning of the end. It may give your body the little break it needs to get back on track. I’m not yet taking any but have been able to open my mind to it a little and thought perhaps others with small waist measurements should be aware.

You could have blueberries.

Wow, 1.5 stone in 3 weeks, you must be well pleased.

Hi caz1973, glad you have started, as I said in another post you are well organised and that will go a long way to help.

The science of the water thing is that everyone should drink 8 x 250 ml glasses of fluid (as SunnyB says doesn’t just have to be water) but very few people do. The importance of water on this diet is that fat leaves your body via your urine so you will know when it is working as you will be peeing for England, or wherever you are. You need to replace this water. Water also helps you feel fuller but will not do anything for the carb cravings, you just have to go cold turkey and not give in. Drinking more water will help prevent constipation. While you are losing so much water and replacing it you are flushing minerals from the body and you need them too, so if you have any cramps, dizziness, faintness etc add a little salt on your food, just a little. If you suffer badly it might be worth buying some mineral replacements sachets (Diaorlyte is a famous one) but this should not be necessary. I personally use some pure salt or have a drink of Andrews Liver Salts (also good for constipation). Yes, you can still buy it. If you are in hot weather like England LOL, you might want to drink a bit more.

I always have a 1 litre jug in the fridge and try to always have a glass of water next to me. Enjoy.

Hi Michael

You’re absolutely right. In commercial Kombucha there will be always be a sizeable residual sugar level to ensure the effervescent quality is maintained over a shelf-life. I’d imagine in home-made, the chances are that the sugar content will be higher, unless you keep a small hydrometer in the kitchen 😉

But sugar is, as you say, sugar.

Welcome back V, I wish my pounds would whoosh off, they seem to be sticking like glue, even after a good weekend. Can only put it down to not having done any exercise for the last 4 or 5 days with all this rain. Must be a shock to my body after doing 50 to 80 mins a day before. The sun is set to reappear tomorrow but the pool is cold now so I will just have to brave it. It is lovely once you get in.

Not looking forward to my weigh in tomorrow but will be here anyway. Hope the rest of you are doing well.

Carbs and calories are the basis of the BSD and Michael Mosley’s writings. They are also the basis of research from University of Newcastle. Let’s leave the discussion here.

Lol Bigeater. And with regard to the cream, if you’ve got spare calories and can fit it in within your 800 calories, it’s BSD friendly.

I occasionally do a dish consisting of courgetti cooked in a bit of butter with a sauce made of cherry toms, smoked salmon and creme fraiche. Delicious. Feels very rich and decadent, but not that many calories in fact. It’s a one pan meal: fry the courgetti till nearly done, add some halved cherry toms and cook again till relatively soft, then add the smoked salmon followed by the creme fraiche and heat till hot. Eat with joy.

Thank you Luckylinda, you have been most helpful.

Lol! Bes sign off ever! Congrats on reaching overweight! and I know it won’t be long before you are at your perfect bmi.
Xxx

Fba12 – That’s great your sugars are improving, as you said, might have just been an adjustment period going off the medication.

Hah, I’m certainly not the model of a perfect diet on this eating plan 🙂 I go over the calorie limit most days because I go to the gym and burn about 400cals, so I tend to eat about 1300 cals a day, which works out at around 900cal if you account for the exercise. I’m sure lots of people don’t do that, but it’s still working so seems to be ok for me.

I eat eggs, lettuce and tomatoes for breakfast most days (eggs cooked in a tsp of butter), salad with all sorts of veggies, chicken and some olive oil for lunch and then some kind of meat and veggies for dinner, often a stir fry or something like that. I eat nuts or greek yogurt if I need a snack before the gym.

Lol Bigeater!! Well done though and keep on keeping on!!

Lol Bigeater!! Well done though and keep on keeping on!!

Hi,

I recently wrote that I seem to be a binge drinker albeit infrequent. While I think wine doesn’t play a healthy part in weight loss, I have allowed myself a couple of glasses lately. Each glass 100 ml and what a miracle – I didn’t reach for more glasses. Obviously I CAN stop when I want to. Seems it only took a bit of mindfulness. Before I go congratulating myself any further, will report on progress in a while.

Have had a penchant for strawberries and cream lately. A real treat but doesn’t cream contain some calories.

Am continuing the BSD, same same, though have had a change from trousers falling down – ripped a pair from waist to god knows where the other night. Seems I also have a penchant for showing my arse!

On that note, I will leave off. Hopefully your arses are covered and your tummies full of lovely bsd food.

Bigeater

Hi caz1973
Hope your first day goes well. Extra water will not help with carb ‘flu, as this is about the symptoms of withdrawal from carbs, in the form of headaches, dizziness, feeling groggy etc. It is important to drink more, to ensure good hydration though and is vital to the body’s functioning well. I don’t think it is an exaggeration to say the majority of people are under hydrated – I know historically I certainly was. Be sure to drink a minimum of 2Lts and a bit more if you can manage it. There are conflicting views as to whether the fluids you take should be largely clear water, or if coffees and teas count in the overall intake. I personally count all my drinks – weak decaf with almond milk, herbal teas, tea or coffee with cream, plain water or water with a twist of lemon, everything.

It sounds like you have done plenty of prep and I’m sure you will soon be posting positive results. Best of luck for some great results.

Hey everyone – hope people are still doing well and managing to inch closer to their ultimate goal.

After a particularly good result at last week’s weigh-in, I had to expect things not to be so fantastic this week. And if I’m honest, I have had an up and down week on the scales and with visitors staying over the w/e, there was inevitably a little alcohol and a couple of carby items I wouldn’t normally have – an ice cream and a focaccia roll. So registering a loss of 0.2lb for the week is not surprising and has to be accepted with good grace. Back to it today though and hopefully a better result at next weeks final weigh-in.

Hope to read lots of positive results for others this week. Has anyone reached a new low or hit that ultimate target this week? Looking forward to reading all about it.

Hi Rabbitoh4 – I have always done my own menu for the BSD and I would add that making sure to include fats in your meals is also important. Hope it goes well for you and you will soon be reporting positive results.