Hi, I’m in the US, just starting today. I’m 58 and don’t have pre-diabetes; my weight’s just crept up and I’d like to lose 10-15lbs (5kg). I struggle with dieting and hope this will be a good option; my brother-in-law did really well on it. Starting weight: 145lbs. (67 kg). Glad to find the forums for camaraderie and support! And look forward to following others’ journeys.

Woweee, pcoventry, that is fantastic. Well done on your fantastic achievementioned. And well done on spreading the word too.

Just noticed it’s your first post was a year ago today – guess that makes it your BSD anniversary 😀 How’s your wife doing?

Haha Allie, fancy me being classed as a fellow-conspirator with your o/h – though why does he want you to put on a few pounds? Or does he just want you back to more or less target weight? In which case, he can conspire against me too😉

We always have white wine and champagne in the drinks fridge and numerous bottles of red on the racks, and it takes no persuasion at all for me to pop a cork, which is why I could do with a reverse miracle. Mind you, drinking wine – and I AM NOT ADVOCATING THIS in any way, shape or form – seems to be about the only thing keeping my weight stable atm!!!! Days I drink wine, weight stays the same. Days I don’t, I drop a pound or two! Very disconcerting 😲😞😫

Well I wanted to come back and update you all. I’ve been doing this now for about 6 months. I stopped taking Metformin and all the other statins and stuff when I started. (otherwise how was I to know if it worked or not)

I had bloods last week, I saw my GP earlier today and I am ecstatic to say that my Diabetes is now GONE!

My fasting levels were 4.6! I am considered Normal! I was told to “keep doing what I was doing, as it’s working” and I re-mentioned Michael and the diet – my GP was impressed and knew of both

I dont follow the book anymore nor do I count calories but I have stuck to the eating plan and just adjusted it. Now it’s everyday life not even thought about. I confess I drink coke Zero like water but clearly its had NO effect on me at all – which I am glad to know!

Oh and I have lost 3.5 STONE since I started this. Through the diet and exercise day to day

I am now going to give my book to 2 friends who are bordering insulin for their type 2! If I can do it they bloody well can too!

Thank you all – and take care 😉

Theo, you are an inveterate bad influence on me. O/h always keeps an
unopened bottle of chardonnay or white bordeaux in the drinks cabinet
for me, in the hope that I’l l pull the cork and gain back a few pounds!
I’m going to have to put you on his list of co-conspirators! 🙂 🙂 🙂

How’s the long fast going, Luvtcook? I’m 28 hours in and feeling good – far more hydrated as I’ve been drinking water like it’s going out of fashion 😄

The next stage will be a doddle, because I’m tucked up in bed now, so that’s the next 8 hours sorted, then it will be water and black tea before walking the dogs, then water and black coffee upon my return, and then a blowout family luncheon to break my fast. But, and it’s a big but……I got to choose the restaurant, so I know it has plenty of BSD friendly choices😄. But, there may be wine…..🍷🍷🍷

PS Just had a thought – maybe I need a reverse miracle and have the wine turn into water?😉😄😉 If it can be done one way, surely it can be done the other? 😉

Yes, I soooo do, Esnecca😃 The jumpsuit pants are quite long, so pink it is. At least I won’t need to invest in new pompoms😉

Mind you, I have quite little feet. And who knew that when you lost weight, your feet get substantially smaller too? Now is that because I had fat feet? Never noticed that I had! Or is it because, with less weight to carry, they are splaying less? Who knows? Whatever the reason, my shoe size has dropped from a UK 5 (US 7.5; Eu 38) to UK 3.5 (US 6; Eu 36) which is the same as in my 20s. Anyway, the point is (excuse the pun) that, with little feet, I’ll need the points long to show 😲 So pink pointy boots……here I come😃

Wayhay for Groundhog Day, Allie 😃

Good evening, brava! Jackie is right, there are many vegetables that are high
in calcium. My husband has stage 3 heart failure, so the balance of calcium,
potassium and magnesium are very important with respect to his health.
If you google “foods highest in calcium”, you will find a site “health.com”
that will give you a list of 15 vegetables. It might surprise you, it certainly
surprised me. Best of luck,

Allie

Hi, my beauties, I hope everyone has had a happy day!
Erin, it is so wonderful to hear from you. Life doesn’t feel quite balanced
without a post from down under. I didn’t realize that you had also broken
a toe in your fall. You must be in one of those restricted “boots” then?
Having a houseful of guests is always fun, but there is always a certain
relief when life returns to normal, isn’t there? I find it quite interesting that
“black lives matter” has taken a foothold in Australia as well. I’m more than
a little interested in American politics also. I used to be totally apolitical,
but in the past 5 years what I see happening in my country is profoundly
disturbing, so I’m very passionate on the subject as well. The equality vote
in your country seems to have been a real mandate from the people.

Kazzi, I’ve been pirhouetting around the house today after receiving your
selfie from “the ladies”. That’s a beautiful blouse that you’re wearing today!
I’m happy to hear that you’ve caught up on that astronomical number of
emails. We’re all looking forward to resumption of services. I can’t be the
only one that looks forward to your communiques each day 🙂 I’m not sure
what I’m doing with this demented shopping spree. There are a lot of
duplicates in the shopping cart because of different fabrics and trouser
lengths. Basically, I’ll just try the mountain of clothing on and send back
what I don’t like. So far (shudder!) I have 2 different lengths of denin pants,
ponte knit slim trousers, tights, a simple pleated back little black knit dress,
3 tunics, 2 scarves, a pair of high suede boots, and a pair of block heeled
black suede pumps. Enough! I’ve invested a fraction of this in my wardrobe
over the past 17 years and I feel very decadent indulging myself in this way.
It’s completely out of character to focus on myself in this manner. I also
threw a black lace pencil skirt into my cart, but I don’t really know if I
can justify that. I still haven’t pulled the trigger and finalized my order though.
Must be guilt!!!

Have a great evening, everyone. See you tomorrow!

Allie
xoxoxo

Hi I was told by a Dr to bin the milk as too carby, even full fat milk, so I have black coffee and tea now. For calcium I’ve been having yoghurt as above but recently discovered full fat creme freche (spelling?!) is lower in carbs than the yoghurt. Have to confess not to checking calories. It really feels like pudding though! Also, cream in coffee once a day or less as it is filling and decadent. The trick is to leave it to a spoonful when trying to maintain 800 cals (I’m not very good at that part – but am now in maintenance so something worked) But broccoli and spinach are good for calcium too I think (open to correction!)

Wow Sue that’s great news! You’re on track to do really well during this challenge and hopefully achieve your next mini goal. . That milestone is within grasp now. I am hoping to have lost a little tomorrow but again the scales are up and down daily for me so I can’t predict. I am hovering either just above or just below my 133 lb goal weight which is great. I will be posting tomorrow morning (we are twelve hours behind you) and I hope it’s a small loss as I have been really mindful this week about my intake.

Hi Jim!

Very well done on your weight loss and fantastic blood sugar results; it must be a big incentive to know that what you’re doing is right for your body and also for keeping you on the straight and narrow!

I really won’t know whether this diet works or not for about 6 months. I can manage to lose weight very successfully and can stick to it for about 3 months then something will happen and the catastrophic thoughts take over and before I know where I am I’m right back to where I started! I’ve NEVER been able to get past the 3 month mark so it will be a big psychological barrier to overcome.

Having said all that, I am enjoying cooking BSD friendly meals and so far they’ve all tasted pretty good! For breakfast this morning I had porridge with a topping of a diced eating apple sautéed in butter and mixed spice; yummy!!! (I think this would be good with yoghurt too).

I haven’t weighed myself for nearly a week but I’m now under the 13st mark (just!) so that feels pretty good.
Unfortunately I don’t know what my blood sugar’s doing because I haven’t got a tester. Did you have to buy yours or was it supplied by the NHS? I think I may invest in one just to keep an eye so if any fellow BSDers can suggest the brand to get I would be appreciative!

Onwards and upwards! Have a great week and let’s all keep up the good work.

Marianne x

I can’t believe this is the 3rd week of the challenge already! I am pleased to say that I’ve had another 500g/1.1lb loss this week. Doesn’t sound much I know but when you’re a slow loser like myself it is!
I started using My Fitness Pal to record weight back in 2011, and now I’m at my lowest recorded weight in that time. Actually the last time I was the weight I am now would have been in 2010, so I’m happy about that 🙂
I’m now only 1kg away from my goal weight for this challenge, so will need to pull out all stops to try and reach it! It will be an important milestone for me as it will see me move into the overweight BMI bracket, rather than obese.
Step wise I only just made my goal, reaching a total of 70,694 for the week.
Good luck to everyone else weighing in!

Hi all, I am on week 3, and I have dropped from 90.7 to 85.5 Kg on this mornings weigh-in. My blood sugar was 5.3, still very low and it pleases me immensely because I have failed at so many diets before.

I was beginning to wonder if anyone is still on here because it has been very quiet, but maybe my post will kick it back into life, waiting to hear from you all.

Kind regards, taurusmmuk, (Jim)

The tape measure lies when it comes to our waists, Allie, because of how much weight we’ve lost. The difference in density between fat and skin makes that measurement pretty meaningless. Even at my current low of 117.7lb, my waist remains 30″. Meanwhile, the skinny pants I bought a month ago are baggy on me now and require a belt to keep from sliding steadily downwards, and a dress I bought that according to the sizing chart had a 27″ waist fits flawlessly without strain or bulging or muffin-topping of any kind.

Exactly, E.! Besides, I’m somewhat “vintage” myself 🙂 So grateful not to
feel it, though. Decade of my 40’s back again for a repeat performance!
It’s groundhog day……….

Verano, what a great thought – I’m hearing that tune quite distinctly in my
head at the moment. Thanks! I’m going to keep it mind for the few rare
moments when I get a little disgruntled at my current waist measurement.
I don’t think that I’m destined to ever see 24″ again, regardless of the low
number on the scale. How much can I expect from my body, after all?
I’ve already “contracted” by 20″. Hooray! It’s time to keep all things in
perspective 🙂 Congratulations on the water consumption for today. With
the tea, you must be close to 3 liters, or soon will be. My pesky voice is
continuing to whisper in your year. We water nymphs must stick together!!

Allie, I love the sound of that midi skirt (another very on-trend look right now) and I know you’re going to rock that lynx. You don’t even have to deny its realness because it’s vintage! You’re ensuring that lynx who died 35 years ago did not die in vain. 😀

Theo, you so need a burst of happy color to set off that jumpsuit to its greatest advantage and How low is the hem? If it’s ankle height, then go with the green so you can show off that gorge embroidery. If its heel-length, go with the fuchsia because the pointed toes keep going long after your foot does so there will be plenty of bright pink showing to match your pompoms.

Lol, Theodora, me too! I hope someone else is enjoying it. Good riddance 🙂

So girls I guess it’s time to

🎶 Accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
And don’t mess with mister in between 🎶

We aren’t in betweenies we are all moving forward with positivity…. lets just enjoy our ‘new’ selves. Onwards and upwards to enjoy the rewards of our hard work …. even if there is more to come …. let’s celebrate the journey so far.

Yep – my bum’s gone too😃

As for 3 inch heels, I’m gonna get practising too, I could do with the extra height (I’m 5’5″ on a good day, but in reality only 5’4″ these days) and my o/h keeps calling me a “little thing “. He and my sons are very tall ( o/h 6’2″ and sons both 6’5″)and even my lovely DiL is 5’11”, so I always feel vertically challenged!

Forgive me, but I forgot to tell Esnecca this, because I got to laughing at
the posts on this thread today. You mentioned a change in your previous
hour glass shape? I’ve made note of the same thing. When speaking of
the proverbial fruit basket of female silhouettes, I used to be mildly pear
shaped, but now I’m definitely a banana! Narrow everywhere 🙂 I think it
is because this WOE is so efficient at burning fat from the hips. I can
do the skinny pants all day long because of my height, but I’m not too sure about
the 3″ heels………..Wish I could rent a pair (mild yuk) to practice in!
Enjoy yourself to the max with fashion. You deserve it 🙂 🙂 🙂

Allie, long live “faux” lynx😉😄😜 And loving the sound of the suede skirt with the slit 😃

Along with my evening jump suit, I unearthed a fantastic sequin jacket, so that is definitely coming out of mothballs too – they’ll look wonderful together 😀 Roll on the party season 😜

Oh my god, what frivolity here, today! I’m laughing in delight at all of this
silly talk. You’ve sent me to the far reaches of my closet to haul out some
much loved expensive numbers that date back to the 80’s. Styles have
returned, Theodora. We’ve only had to wait 30 years for it!!!! I tried on a
black suede midi skirt with a slit up the side, and the crazy thing fits! I
even found a black airplane silk black jumpsuit in the farther most reaches
of the closet. The real gem, however, is a lynx jacket, that now fits perfectly,
which I’ll be trotting out this winter, political correctness be damned. If I raise
any eyebrows, I’ll just cultivate a “withering look” and tell any critics that
it’s faux fur! Long live the 80’s, my friends!
Just for fun, I took a look at those sateen boots, esnecca. Those toes look
like lethal weapons 🙂 Very cute, though!

Allie

Sorry, Esnecca – just noticed that my previous post called you Especially 😄😃😄 Bloomin predictive text!!

And, crikey, I’m going to have to start shopping at Zara😃 because my black jumpsuit would look pretty hot with lime green boots too! Though I’d have to get new pompoms, of course 😉

Luvtcook, you’ll soon be kicking ass in skinny jumpsuits and hot boots too and you’ll look FANTASTIC – or, should I say, even MORE fantastic than you do already in your 3 year old coat😜

Like maybe this color green? https://www.zara.com/us/en/embroidered-satin-high-heel-ankle-boots-p16065201.html?v1=4745012&v2=269191 Because I bought those too. 😆

I remember when my old stalwart black trousers that had served as pretty much my only decent item of clothing for a decade dropped from my hips to the floor while still zipped and buttoned. That was such a huge moment for me. I wish I’d kept them now so I could take one of those classic putting both legs in one of their legs picture, but my active purging system drove me to chuck them out when they fell to the floor still zipped and buttoned while I was wearing their replacements underneath them.

You are going to be so jazzed as you go through your closet and move pieces from the won’t fit to too big to clownishly ridiculous must give away categories. Those clothes are ready-made mini-goals to keep you motivated and get constant payoff from your hard work.

Amen, Verano! Finding a way to make our outsides match our insides can be a struggle, and when it has taken a long time to get to this place, it takes even longer for the brain to catch up to the new reality. Reality: we have great kicky new haircuts that bounce and move and look sleek as all git out. Reality: goobye to all floaty tent clothes! You don’t fit us anymore. 😀

Well done on the water, V. Great stuff.

And I’m sorry, I forgot to mention how fantastic you and Esnecca look with your new haircuts😄

Allie, my driving licence is soooo old, it doesn’t even have a photo. Just the other day, I went to collect an order from Waitrose and was asked for photo ID. I don’t have any, I said. Surely you have a driving licence, the woman said. Sure, said I – but on production she didn’t even recognise it as a licence 😱 In fact a few years ago a policemen didn’t even recognise it – he said licenses previous to photo ones had been pink 😄 Mine’s green and I’ve had it since 1977 and only got changed from the lovely little maroon book then because we moved house!! Sadly will have to have a photo one in a couple of years when I turn 70, but at least it can be a “thin” photo 😄

Verano, what a brilliant suggestion….emphasize the positive. I do think it is hepful never to take yourself too seriously and embrace oneself, warts and all. But with the changes happening to all of you, all of us, giving yourself credit for credit due, glass half full and all that…..great motto forward.

Welcome, SurreyMaggie – the more the merrier! I think we all understand that feeling of things creeping up on us. That is amazing weight loss last year. I am sure you will have excellent advice for all of us!

You ladies crack me up!

Ensecca, well done! I am lime green with envy, especially about the boots. Don’t know what it is about a gorgeous pair of boots, but they speak to me.

Theodora and Sunny….you too sound like you are going to rock it out in those jump suits. I on the other hand and just so please I can get actually button up the winter coat from 3 years ago that now fits. I have a closet full of coats….one in size “way too big”, one in “can now button up”, one in “almost fit at the end of the last diet” and the last in “what were you thinking ?”. Getting into clothes tucked away at the back of the closet tells me so much more than a tape measure….no lying to yourself with clothes. If you still can sit down in those pants….well, you have your answer. Never sure I am doing the measuring tape in the same/right place or pulling it with the same tension as last time. Cothes don’t lie.

Well done all.

Allie that was then …. in the next one you will look a million dollars!

I still find it difficult to get away from ‘loose’ clothes and whilst I’m not ready for fitted stuff yet I really don’t need floaty!

You know Esnecca I only had quite a small amount of hair taken off all around and shaped more but it made a huge difference to the way I think I look! I think it’s really quite difficult to adjust to a new body shape and hair/face and regain confidence when we have spent years ‘hiding’ under the best clothes we could!

Yes Theo I’ve made 2lt of water so far today plus a few teas. I’m sure I’ll make another 500ml at least before bed tonight.

Let’s just stick with the POSITIVES! We always underestimate ourselves ….. but no more … let’s be the women we want to be and deserve to be!

Haha, Esnecca, I almost sprayed water at my screen reading your characterization
of yourself! I wish you could all have a gander at my driver’s license. Talk about
a jack o lantern with a double chin! Whenever I have to present it for some reason
and receive the second looks, I’m grateful that I found my way out of that state.
I intend to stay where I am today, with the support of all of you! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Ooh, sorry Mary, I hadn’t realised you are already a seasoned faster. Either way, if you felt funny, I’m sure having a little something was the right thing to do.

Hopefully you’ll be feeling fantastic tomorrow .

Theo xx

Wowee, Especially, hot indeed😄

It is soooo fantastic being able to wear such things again and, as you say, look as though we belong in them😃

SunnyB, jump suits are so NOW again. Bet you look great in it. Funnily enough, whilst clearing out yet another of my wardrobes over the weekend, I came across a favourite quite dressy jump suit from way back when. ……the 80s maybe? Anyway, it still looked good and small, so tried it on and it looked fantastic. Alright, it’s black (but I’ve always loved black) but would knockout with the fuscia pink sateen boots which, incidentally, would match my pompoms to perfection 😉 So when you get tired of them…………….😜

What a great idea to reinforce the positive changes we’ve all made. My stylist suggested I angle the front of my hair to give it movement and to frame my “long face” instead of looking like two black-out drapes on either side of it. I was so happy to hear that I have a long face now, apparently. I was tempted to show him my passport picture from 2012 wherein my face can only be described as moon-like. A very, very full moon. 😆

Oh dear, I hope I didn’t infect you with my fruit paranoia during the discussion of apples in salad I had with Luvtcook. Plenty of BSDers eat apples now and again. It’s only we fanatical 20 grammers who avoid them because they’re comparatively high in sugar. Michael Mosley includes apples in several of the BSD recipes. You’re going to be fine.

Theodora, I’m glad your bones have faith in me! I trust them. 🤩

SunnyB, I’ve done that too, so many times. I think “this is crazy, there is no way I can squeeze into that tiny skinny/slim fit/tailored/wasp-waisted jean/pant/shirt” and then when it comes and I try it on, it fits great, or it’s too big! I don’t think I’ll ever get used to the feeling of sliding easily into a slim fit velvet ankle pant and looking like you actually belong in something like that. I was more hourglass shaped before I started gaining weight, so I always had a bit of struggle to get pants over my hips that fit fine at the waist, but now that I’ve lost the weight, the ass went with it. I honestly think I look better now in certainly kinds of clothes than I did at 18. Surreal.

I can’t go higher than 3 inches in thin heels or I teeter totter like I’m on stilts. Blocks or platforms give me an extra half-inch because the base is so much wider and more stable. My very stylish friend who took me out on my first shopping trip gave me strict instructions to stick with wedge, block and kitten heels until I could walk around the apartment easily without having to think about every step. Only then should I attempt a stiletto. She is very wise.

Theodora, I love a practical boot. I acquired several in that arena — tall snow boot, two ankle rain boots, one riding — but I want my closet populated with hotness too. For years it was rubber clogs every day. Now it’s tan plaid with a scarlet laquer 3.5 inch block heel, floral embroidered brocades, blue velvet knee-highs and fuxia sateen pointed-toe flats. Those last ones I got from Zara, btw, and I am in love with them to an operatic degree. https://www.zara.com/us/en/sateen-pointed-ankle-boots-with-low-heel-p17154201.html?v1=4858510&v2=734142 . Hot, right? And no heel to speak of.

Thanks Theodora, but I have been regularly fasting 24 hours for several weeks now. When I don’t fast for 24 I do indeed do 17/7…so I am used to it. This is the first time I have “gone funny.” I will see how I am tomorrow.
Keep giving the great advice. I know I am not the only one to read all your posts and learn from them.

Cheers
Nonna Mary
xxxx

alibailbee, – a little mantra for you…………………… one apple does not a disaster make!

During your BSD journey, you will probably have the odd REAL disaster day, and even then, it’s not a disaster. You just come on here, confess all, get a few virtual hugs, get back on the wagon and carry one. We’ve all been there disaster-wise, but it’s the ones who have climbed straight back on the wagon who have been successful. Keep going, you can do this, I feel it in my bones.😉

Thanks all.

Just a passing thought about your easy it is to start obsessing about this when you’re not used to it. I had an apple this afternoon because I was getting too wobbly and stupidly hadn’t brought any BSD friendly snacks to work, and am now worried that I’ve ruined the low carb thing. Because of an apple! Think I need to get a grip!

Well said, Verano – yes it is often the little things that mean the most. And so wonderful to be complimented and made to feel good about oneself. So I would like to reiterate your sentiments and say how MUCH BETTER everyone is looking since they started BSD.

And well done on the water consumption too – keep up the good work, I have high hopes for a record being achieved😜

Alibalibee, as Luvtcook has said, that is a great strategy – it’s all in the planning. Plus, whilst everyone else is reading the menu, humming and hawing and changing their minds whilst the waiter is standing getting impatient, you can sit back and enjoy yourself. Have a lovely evening.

Luvtcook, as far as adding carbs back in occasionally is concerned, I think it depends on whether you are addicted and / or diabetic. Fortunately, I am neither and so, whilst I went really low carb for my 2 back to back rounds of 800 (averaged between 20 – 25g a day) and was incredibly strict and focused throughout, now that I am on maintenance, I happily allow myself a few extra (err….sshhhhh…..refined) carbs occasionally. But I do make sure they are ones worth eating and do it very mindfully. For example, I love moules, but they just aren’t the same without frites so when we go for supper at my favourite waterside pub, that’s what I have. Or, sometimes I’ll have a piece of wonderful artisan bread. And, boy do I enjoy them – but they are occasional treats, enjoyed all the more because I don’t have them often – and therein lies the secret. If we start eating empty carbs again regularly, we will be back where we began our journeys. And, anyway, I have totally lost any inclination to eat rice / pasta / potatoes (other than the aforementioned frites) or any bread which isn’t well worth the eating.

Throwing in a fast day after such an indulgence will certainly undo any small damage done “weight-wise” and, as mentioned above, it is an important maintenance tool in my armoury.

V – please don’t worry about it, I’ve certainly made up for it today and will, hopefully, be back on track with my water tomorrow. Really pleased that you have managed to drink a bit more, well done.

Mary, I suggest you build up to fasting gradually – how are you on, say 16 / 8?

PS Further to stairs without handrails, I have made the conscious decision to always put on my trousers / socks etc standing up, and not steadying myself on anything other than the one leg. Took some doing to start with, but easy peasy now.😁

Hello. May I join you all please? I am a long-time lurker on this site, and had some success with the diet, losing 33kg between April and November last year. I had just over 8kg to go to reach the top of my healthy BMI but a combination of circumstances has led me to fall off the wagon and put back 14kg since January. My epiphany moment came on Saturday when I carried some shopping up 5 flights of stairs and realised I was struggling with it -and it only weighed half of what I had put back on! So I started again yesterday and hope to see some improvements soon. I am joining the forums so I can both be encouraged to eat healthily and so I am publicly accountable for my food intake!

Wow, Esnecca – my pompoms have gone into overdrive!

The boots sound AWESOME – feeling quite jealous😝😜😉 Feeling another little boot shopping trip coming on, as I bought myself a pair of black suede heeled boots just last week, but by no stretch of the imagination could they be described as “hot”, more “practical” 😁

But what a way to celebrate – beats a food treat any day of the week!

Luvtcook – I have definitely found servers are much more accommodating when they realise I am not just being ‘high maintenance’. It would be lovely to think that the world will catch up with us and realise that all the starchy carbs are bad for us. So we are actually ‘trail blazers’ until then.

You are right that this is a revolution in obesity and T2 diabetes.

We are so lucky as we will not go blind or lose our toes or feet. For me that is a major incentive to keep going on this forum and the BSD.

Verano – I do agree that the medical profession is lagging behind us and are still promoting out of date ideas. It is absolutely up to us to spread the word. I carry on posting on this forum because it helps me so much. Maybe people who stop posting don’t need that support and carry on effortlessly with the BSD.

Allie – your cruise idea would be awesome.