Hi John, you have to make them but the recipe is in the recipes tab, 🙂 you need to start the batter a few hours before you make the flatbreads, but it’s easy 🙂

I do like a good cruise in the last eighteen months I have cruised round Hawaii and Alaska twice.

Hi Hashi,
Thanks for that – can you buy chickpea flatbreads or do you have to make them?
John

Lynne I no longer trust those border line results, they do tell you it’s normal! The cheap tests that hospitals use do not work for everyone if the condition is a bit more complex. It isn’t the doctor’s fault either, they can’t control the tests hospitals use – they can request the more sophisticated test but don’t always get it. NICE guidelines and all that. If you are told you are normal, but low end of normal, ask your doctor to specify which test you need doing. I would hate to think of anyone getting into the state I was in for a year where I was going into hypothyroid comas. I spent one summer – a hot one – in my thermals, layers of clothes on, wrapped in duvets, central heating on full, fire on and I was freezing. On my own and too ill to realise I was ill. Its not funny coming too when you were eating your dinner in sunlight and it’s dark and your head is in your food and you have no idea why it is dark as you don’t realise you been ‘out cold’.

Have you checked yourself against a list of hypothyroid symptoms? You don’t have to have them all to be hypothyroid.

A group cruise would be lovely, wouldn’t it! 🙂

Yup, Lynne, we’ve all been there!! Never realising why it never worked! 🙂

Hi John, I just eat more!! So, I might have a WHOLE avocado on a salad with a boiled egg! I like a curry, a dahl and a chickpea flatbread as a meal along with some green, leafy veg. Believe me it doesn’t take long to ramp up a few carbs but stay inside the principles of no starchy carbs!
Perhaps you could have one of the salads or a dip as a starter followed by fish/meat and veg.

Pop some extra seeds and fruit on your morning porridge, add a dash of cream – or what my mother used to add – a lovely knob of butter ( she also added golden syrup but we won’t mention that!)
You’ll have fun trying it John 🙂

Hi Judith, we’ve all been there haven’t we? Joining and rejoining slimming clubs 😳 But we didn’t know any better. The ones I went to seemed full of people more interested in fitting ‘naughty’ treats into their allowance than eating healthily. 😱

My son left most of a bottle of Diet Coke in my fridge – at least I can use it rather than pour it away😃 Not for drinking, I hasten to add😃

Eureka, it’s not my knickers I’m worried about LOL They’re new and smaller. Just as well because they’ll be on show if my trousers fall down😱

Thanks folks. I know I can rely on you to glue me together again 😃

Christine,
One of the books I have on carbs reads very interestingly on sweet v dry white wine
It says a glass of dry had 2g carbs, but sweet is 15g – that’s a lorra lorra carbs innit?
Good job you gave it away 🙂

Can I trawl for ideas?

I’m looking to ramp up the kCals but like so many of us, don’t actually feel the need. I guess I ought to edge them up a bit though, as I’ve only a stone to go and 800kCals won’t do then, so I may as well start getting used to it.

I’ve had some ideas, such as;
Having more “snacking” nuts – (good nutrition and high kcals)
Milk in my porage instead of water – never had milky porage before – actually quite nice.
etc etc

Obviously, one couId just increase portion sizes, but I just wondered if anyone else out there has come up with bright ideas that don’t involve too much more bulk – I really don’t want my stomach used to eating the sized meals I used to have. Some of you more advanced folk must have tackled this problem already.

John

I could use that cruise right now!

Judith, yes I am 😃 Had HbA1c done just before I started this. Then they got their wires crossed and did it again, which showed an improvement. Really must get those results for my records! It’s the HbA1c again this time – full bloods due July.

I’m regularly told my thyroid result is borderline. They retest and its normal. Be interesting to see what they say in July!

My exercise has mainly consisted of walking (I live near a couple of National Trust sites so plenty of footpaths locally). I do a weekly Pilates class, too. I used to be a regular swimmer but, to my eternal shame, I haven’t dipped my toe in the local pool since moving to my current address 6 years ago. However, the pool has just had a major refurbishment so I really ought to drag out the cozzie and start slogging up & down the lengths again. Working at my allotment helps too.
Although I work part-time, it is a pretty physical job and I find that I can clock up well over 10,000 steps just by being at work.

Your story Is really helpful for others to read, David. You’ve done the hardest part…defying your doctor and taking control of your diabetes. I look forward to reading about your success in future. Keep up the good work. Much joy

Hi captainlynne
Ahem, General. You can lead a horse etc.
You are your own ‘ poster girl’ (nods to hashimoto ) so parade a bit. Just don’t let the nickers fall down! You can tell what I’ve got to shop for.
Eureka

Thanks, Patsy, a cool box is the handle I was mentally searching for.

I used to freeze cartons of juice and pack the cool box with frozen/chilled food for a weeks camping ….in my much younger days 🙂

Ooh, I would love to go on that cruise but I’m heading for Oz this year!

I bet you’re looking forwards to your bloods results Lynne! 🙂

I had a call from the receptionist, apparently I have to have my bloods repeated on the 9th May- as I’m ‘borderline’. I’m presuming low. I’ve booked in with dr the week before the 9th because the hospitals tend to run the cheap test and I had years of being told I was low but within the normal range ….until I developed a huge goitre!!!

I’ve just finished reading the book, and I’m in preparation mode, emptying some cupboards (a bit difficult with two teenagers) and filling them up with the “right” foods.
Breakfasts is a bit daunting. As many i’m out of bed at the last minute and leaving the house when others are still in bed means a bit restricted to using blenders. Can breakfasts such as blueberry green shake and other blended mixtures be prepared the evening before, Is it btter to do a big batch and freeze it in portions? Don’t know if loosing vitamins would be a big problem. In 800 calories you need to make sure you get the right nutrients in your body. Thanks.

B: 2 egg omelette with 30g cheese and some spinach
L: 100g Chicken with salad, leaves, cucumber
D: Cabbage and butter bean soup
Nuts, yogurt for snacks

Hi Lynne, I have just returned from a friends house, she told me she had explained the diet to a friend of hers who is a yo-yo dieter only to be told No, I can have bread with Slimming World. As my friend said, she’s been doing SW on and off for years but the penny hasn’t dropped that if it worked she wouldn’t need to keep going back to it! 🙁
Give it time, they may want to know about it some day, when they see that you haven’t put the weight back on!

Christine sounds like things are going VERY well on your hols! One sip of diet coke and you didn’t like it. Fantastic!!! 🙂

I’m a slow burner definitely – I lost 6lb week one but have only lost 1-2 in following 3 weeks but have lost 3inches round my waist. I’ve tried to keep busy and find things easier when I’m at work and I have my weighed and planned lunch and no way of sneaking anything extra! Part of my motivation is that, now I’ve managed to wean myself off potatoes pasta rice and bread, (I went cold turkey but it was hard!!) I don’t want to go through doing that again. So when temptation is there, I go for nuts or a bit of cheese or a Beetroot Brownie rather than face the surge and the slump. Find this forum very motivating and helpful too.

Hi Christi1948
Good day. Yep, ducks delight for me too. But Coke cleans toilets! You’ll have to stop giving it hubby
Eureka. 🍷

Hi orchid
Very impressed. Very Flash Dance. What about BSD WORKS printed on the back of the T shirt?
Eureka

Hi eureka
I’ve had a better day today, low everything, except fat! Going for a post evening meal walk tonight before bed, I don’t know how people can drink booze all day and night and not feel bloated, I’ve had another half glass of prosseco and had to give most of it to hubby as its too sweet for me! We had a cooked lunch today and I asked for a Diet Coke, then having taken a sip I had to check it was diet! She said yes definitely, it was sooo sweet I had to give that to hubby too! I’m finding just plain water a good balanced sweet now though, when before the ‘diet’ it was just plain water, I now like it better than sugary diet drinks!
Christine

Eureka, yes they have! There is a whole programme of lectures on all kinds of low carb topics with guest speakers. It sounds amazing!

Sorry deleted – need to rethink.

Hi hashimto
Love that you actually ran a mile after the food, more than I could do lol.

I may snuggle with Michael again tonight as I learned various things.
Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi FoFI,
MM’s comments about any breads was that even the ‘good’ wholemeal products have a lot of added sugar and that is why it is not recommended in the 800 phase. Rye is on the ‘eat’ list along with quinoa etc as a grain on it’s own.

Hi Christi1948
Glad you had a good bday. Don’t let the reflux spoil it. Mine is all gone on low carbs. It was very painful.
Enjoy the rest of your hol
Eureka

I have the odd slice of Rye bread. It does seem to fit with the wholegrain, low GL ethos of the book, but not everyone on this forum would agree.

hi Amp511,

This is far from the Mediterranean origins, but when I have travelled I have skipped breakfast and then had a low carb protein bar for lunch. I have then had something more normal for dinner, but with 600 kcals to spare it is easier than usual. There are several companies selling shakes and bars which might be more suitable than the one I had. The ‘good’ thing about these bars is that they aren’t so nice that you are tempted to eat two. The guilt free brownies travel well, but I find it harder to resist eating two!

If you can have either breakfast or dinner with a meal replacement shake you should be okay. If not tinned vegetables might travel well – I’m thinking small tins of chickpeas or kidney beans with some cheese.

I think that there are hard boiled eggs that don’t need refrigeration (saw them on dragon’s den).

Good luck with the diet if you can make it worth I think that you’ll find it worthwhile

B: Greek yog/strawberries
L: egg salad
D: egg, bacon

(My cal counting book states bacon as 117 per grilled rasher – the packet I opened from Waitrose stated 134 for 2 slices – so I erred on the side of hunger/greed and had 3!)

Hi hashimoto

We all have to learn, but un oeuf is an egg! You see oranges don’t say “Ouch”. The nurses will get it?

Once had to encase my husband’s arm in ice after a visit from a doc taking blood. He’d volunteered for it as part of a genetic familial study of bowel cancer. That’ll teach him!!

Hope the test results are good
Eureka

A lot of sound advice above, especially if you can re-freeze your water bottles to keep the cool bag cool. It is great to be able to prepare your own food and so be assured of what you are eating, but if you only have a kettle the options are limited (you can boil
eggs in a kettle, or make miso broth for example). How much time and energy do you have to go shopping, and are there any local
stores? Things like smoked salmon, cheeses and houmous are pretty widely available even without a superstore. If you can get to a
large supermarket then ready prepared salads, celery, tomatoes, and so on are a reasonable proposition, but wont keep overnight.
As a final resort, I would scope out some places to eat nearby where there is one meal that you can rely on. Breakfast would be anywhere that would do scrambled eggs, dinner anywhere that does a plain steak or grilled fish. You might have to accept a level of
repetition in your weekday diet, which you might like to offset by preparing more exotic meals at the weekend. I would recommend having something in the freezer ready for your arrival home on a Friday night.

Hi, I looked at this site a month or so ago, it has the info you want – not sure if they allow you to download a spreadsheet. I did find one that could…. I’ll dig around a bit later.
http://www.glycemicindex.com/foodSearch.php

Hi Janet1973
No, you didn’t give up, she did! No imagination . . .

Cruising sounds very Alluring. I feel the Pitons calling! Wonder if they’ve got low carb lectures & Pilates on tap? It’ll do for me
Eureka

Well done David – I look forward to seeing your progress and you confounding your doctor!

It’s under the recipe tab – currently number 73. I’ve cut and pasted it here and can recommend it
•Chickpea flour ( Besan) 9oz
•Water( enough to make a thin batter)
•Olive oil- 1 tbsp
•SeasoningI use chilli flakes, celery seed, pepper, onion powder, choose your own to taste

Method
Put chickpea flour in bowl, add enough water to make a thin pancake batter whisking well as you go
Add seasoning , and then leave for 2-3hrs, when ready to use whisk in olive oil
Heat frying pan on medium heat, if not nonstick lightly brush with olive oil
Swirl batter into pan , and cook till brown and crisp, turn over and cook the other side
Freezes well

No I haven’t where did you get the recipe? Can they be bought?

A coolbox, Hashimoto?

Good idea. It would keep fruit and yoghurt fresh for breakfasts.

If you’d normally eat out, you could ask for salad or veg in place of the potatoes or rice.

I haven’t tried the flatbreads where can I get a recipe for them? Or can they be bought?

Glad to hear it Judith. Pin cushion isn’t a good look!

But you could wear that mankini of yours!

Have you tried gram flour flatbreads? Easy to make and good with curry or in place of wraps.

B: 100g F/F Yogurt, Raspberries, mixed nuts
L: martinique salad
D: 2 Quorn Sausages, Broccoli, Carrot & 50ml Gravy

Don’t be too downhearted captainlynne. I knew about low carb diets years ago but wasn’t prepared to make the shift until now. Its a drip-drip thing. You’ve planted the seed, let it sink in with them. The more they see you being happy and healthy the more it will tug away at their sensibilities and one day they might just give it a go.

Thanks Jandz100 and Orchid, will be sure to give it a try.

With regards to the other conversation on sausages, i always use Quorn. Low cal, low saturated fat, high in protein and not a bad carb count

I don’t think I could cope with the sight of all you bikini clad babes lying all over the place. 😀

I paid to be a member of the diet doctor website, its £6.50 a month and you can cancel any time. Because I’m a paid up member now I’m getting extra info and the cruise is one of the extras. I don’t think its included in my membership fee though 😉

Its the Caribbean islands, a week I think. Don’t tempt me! Wouldn’t it be great?

Hi David6855

You’ve made a great start. Keep letting us know your progress.

Hello David
I’ve managed to drop all the meds now but I prefer to consider myself as a diet controlled diabetic rather than a none diabetic.
That could lead to slip ups in the future and I don’t ever want to have to take diabetic drugs again. Best of luck to you, I know you can do it because I did and there is nothing special about me.
As an experiment, why don’t you lose the shake for a week and replace with eggs or fruit and yoghurt, just to see how those post breakfast readings perform on real food.

Yes, stringbreaker. My son’s partner was commenting on how much weight she’s putting on with decreased mobility. But even that won’t get her to change their diet. Nor telling her how many are seeing improvement in IBS (she has that too). On the plus side, my son didn’t have a go at me like he has before 😃

Last night I cooked them (at their request) sausage, egg, chips and beans, with ketchup. At least the sausages were low-carb! I ate 2 of the sausages with an egg, and beetroot. Then they share a trifle between the four of them. Not a morsel touched my lips. 😃

I cooked my breakfast before they were up and about – bacon, egg and black pudding.
They finally tad brunch just before they left – bacon, sausages, scrambled eggs, baked beans and tinned tomatoes. With ketchup. Followed by a cupcake each. Then the twins actually asked if they could gave sweets 😱

I just said I’d already eaten, and sat with a coffee while they ate 😃

Orchid, one of my colleagues is Portugese. When him and his wife saw me on Sunday I was asked if my weight loss was deliberate, then how I’d done it. Told them about the BSD, but they like their carbs too much – at the moment 😳

The twins have been having semi-skimmed milk – it’s what they’re used to. But their natural yogurt has been full dat😃 They’ve eaten more this bid it than before, and as much as possible has been low-carb. They excitedly told their step-mum that they’d had yogurt with blueberries. But then made the mistake of saying how many blueberries. C had 28, G had 70. They’d counted them! C only wanted the 28 so I had no problem. But their step-mum accused poor G of gluttony!😱 Personally I’d sooner see her eat those blueberries than fill up on sweets, biscuits or cake!

Glad to hear of your new exercise clothes. If I don’t get some new trousers or a skirt there might be a very embarrassing incident – probably in the centre of Durham😱