So this morning,

I did a little yoga and a little baked bean swinging, I had to put the m in a bag for better grip.l didn’t want to launch them.🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Walked to a further bus stop just to enjoy the sunshine this morning before getting my shackles on again.
🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Hope you are all well and ready to enjoy the day.
Love Lucia
Xxxx

I have been more or less sticking to the 800 for over 2 weeks. When I say more or less, last Sunday I had a sandwich when out, brie and rocket salad, and later counted it on MFP and reduced for rest of day so still 800 cals – but carbs higher than should be of course.

I stupidly didn’t weigh at first week but did lose 3.5 pounds last week. Yesterday I was sooo good, and yet I’ve put on a pound. I had homemade veg soup about noon. Then about 2.30 a salad with cottage cheese and a little feta. At night 2 Linda McCartney sausages with cauli mash with some butter, dash cream _ sprinkle parmesan.

Also I don’t feel thinner, and feel rather bloated (not just since I ate the bread). I am drinking at least 6 big glasses of water, often more. One day I ate 2 lots of pulses and that was a mistake.

Just feel I’ve been trying for over 2 weeks and it;s not dropping off like for some of you. I also keep looking forward and wanting to feel an improvement. I feel rather tired not full of energy. I am tempted not to weigh for a week, but still want to feel lighter.

after being awake since 3am listening to my tummy rearrange itself shrinking feelings and talking to me (not hunger) I get up to a BS READING OF 7 wow,it’s been quite bit above this on fasting reading in past
Only second week in too .
Don’t care if it’s a blip I love it 👍👍👍😄😄😄😄😂😂😂😂
Thanks again all on here for help so far
Alan

Hi Hawks, Daily value for Sodium is 2,400 milligrams or 2.4 grams. You will have to count your salt if you are worried based on the nutritional data for the food you eat until you are sure you are getting enough. Most people find it difficult to avoid Sodium in food. It is in most things. To “Google” your food or visit one of the sites that provide the data and there are lots.

Wish the book was spiral bound so it would lie flat when you’re trying to follow a recipe. My copy is already liberally splattered and fingerprinted with various recipe “samples”. I’ll be eating it at the end – why waste all that goodness?!

Awake since 3 am listening to my belly talking to me !
Not hungry at all,sounds like it’s rearranging things and shrinking ,weird stuff and only into second week.

Strangely not been hungry yet and for a six foot fairly well built guy it’s amazing .

I have a mental picture of myself buying new pants n shirt and going to my local bar looking great feeling fantastic .
I used to practice hypnotherapy so know how powerful mental images can be that you give yourself similar to how being negative affects you.

Onward and upwards you lovely people
Alanhypno

In one of his chapthers, he mentions protein per day is 45gms for women and 55gms for men.

Ceerose,
Welcome to the forum and make sure you hang onto that Dr! That’s fantastic that you have a GP recommending the BSD. 🙂
You will have a lot more support from a GP who understands the programme.
Keep in touch on here, you’ll get lots of advice, tips and encouragement. The recipe section is expanding and you’re sure to find good ideas there, and the ‘what did you eat today’ thread.
Wishing you all the best for success.

I’m starting the Fast 800 in the morning. I’m a type 2, obese, and strongly insulin resistant. I’ve done 16:8 IF before, but never with such a low level of calories. I’ve done 24-hr fasts, but have only managed to go beyond that by two hours. I now always struggle with “keto flu”, and when I fast, my anxiety levels increase in the afternoons until I eat. Once I eat, I start to feel normal again. However when I feel that bad, I tend to overeat.

How much sodium and other electrolytes do I need? I can’t seem to find anything about that in the book.

Hi TubbyKiwi!
Well done! 11 kilos in 6 weeks is really impressive. You are certainly on track for those June and summer goals.
Yes, many thick winter soups are off the menu. I am learning to like tomato soup more often. Do you have any suggestions for variations?

Hi 🙂 Just registered to the website today. Doctor recommended this eating plan yesterday. I’m in Christchurch and I’m 27/f. Keen to chat to NZ’ers to find seasonal recipes. Feeling like this sort of diet would be easier to start in summer with salads and smoothies, but I guess winter is best for soup!

Yup another Kiwi on this great diet. I am from Matata (Whakatane) and have lost 11 kilos in 6 weeks so am really stoked. Need to make more recipes tho now that winter is on its way. Out with my favourites Carrot and potato, Kumera and pumpkin and the thick veg soup with all the no no things in it. Have a biggie birthday coming up in June so want to look OK for that. Still have 19 kilos to go and want to reach goal by summer.

Thanks booboombum. I will check out Frozen Direct.

Anyone planting their winter veggies yet? What stage are things at in other parts of the country?

We got started this weekend by clearing out the plants that were finished from summer, but leaving the ones that are still going.
So in addition to the cherry toms, capsicum, cucumber, chilli and zucchini that are still feeding us, we have broccoli, cauliflower, spring onion, mustard greens, cress, celery and leeks starting either in seed trays or in the garden. And a whole lot of self seeded lettuces, which is a perk for not weeding or removing bolted lettuces!
It is amazing what we can fit into just a few sq m of garden.

Hi Izzy,
I bought a fitbit too to coincide with my starting on the Fast800.
To be honest, I haven’t been strict about counting my calories, and have been more just sticking to basic principles (no sugar, bread, rice or pasta any more!) so it’s probably more accurate to say I’ve been doing the BSD Med style low carb for those 3 weeks, but even so I have lost 2.5 kg. My partner has been much stricter with himself, and has lost 5.9 kg in the same time!
I was hesitant about the fitbit at first, but now I am really glad I bought it. It helps keep me aware of how active I am (or am not) being and motivates me to walk more than I had been previously. Last night on my way home from work I got off the train one stop early and walked the rest of the way home, just so I could relax and enjoy my evening knowing I had achieved my 10000 steps for the day! Isn’t is great to feel that buzz on on your wrist when you’ve reached your goal 👍🏻
Good luck with your journey, and keep us posted 🙂

I have made some brownies and muffins and keep them in the freezer. That means I have to defrost if I want any, which reduces the risk of impulse eating, and I don’t feel obliged to eat them all before they go stale, and it means I have something that fits the diet on hand if I feel like a treat.
(I made some scones which were a failed variation on the recipe, but I was “saved” from all those calories by my dog who sneakily cleaned the lot up when I went out!)

Hi Beverley,
Thank you so much for sharing that. While my story isn’t the same as yours, there are a lot of parallels.
We have (had!) a habit of dessert on most nights, including plenty of icecream. We sometimes ate a lot of bread, and I did a lot of baking with only two of us to eat it. I too have mental health issues, had my mother, mother-in-law and friends make comments on my weight and and I’d repeat in my head all those negative comments. I didn’t do any dieting ever until I had got control of my mental health first.
I started 2.5 years ago with the 5:2, and have recently added the low carb Med style.

Congratulations on all the changes you have made. It is an achievement. Well done on the mental health too. That is hard work.

The folks from Dr. Taylor’s study returned to eating an isocaloric diet (33% of their calories from each macro) at about 2/3 of their caloric intake pre-diet at the end of 8 weeks (via a gradual ramp up). Since they were obese, and lost significant weight, a decrease from the calories needed to maintain their prior weight makes sense.

The bariatric patients are on drastically reduced calories for a longer period of time, but they also gradually return to a “normal” level of calories in 1-4 years. Most are only at a moderate deficit at a year.

Good intentions but forgot to time it… but tomorrow is another day.
I did count high intensity bursts more carefully and am doing 6 x 15 seconds.
How many high intensity bursts should I do? From memory, the book implied that either too many or too long was not helpful, but I can’t find that bit again.

Also, I can add another 1.2 km which goes up (down on the return) about 90 m. Should I do that, or use it for variation say once a week, or try to speed up what I do already?

83 again. Thanks, Janet1973. Those positive comments really help. I’ll keep on keeping on and review portion sizes. Exercise wise I have started a thread to help track that. I don’t remember about the diary so will review the book.

Hi RA,
You are doing amazingly well, I’m so impressed with your results already. 🙂
You can be justifiably proud of yourself for your willpower and hard work.
Give yourself another week or two and those sugary carbs will have lost their appeal.
Read the ‘this has to work for me’ thread and follow Bill’s journey, it will inspire you. Get a daily dose of the posts on here to motivate you. Also dip into the forum when you are tempted to stray, tell yourself you have to do ten minutes on here first. Pretty much guarantees you’ll lose the urge to indulge in the wrong food.
I want to keep reading your progress, it will inspire others too, so please keep posting. 🙂

Way to go PurplePenguin – 13kgs in 7 weeks – Yay! I’m hoping to match that, half way there on both counts. 🙂

Well done Sue,
Things are working out for you it seems 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Good for you, let’s see the sugars levels on the downward trend

Decades ago I noticed that when I ate bread (any type) for breakfast I’d be hungry all day and eat twice as much that day as any other. I wanted to kick eating bread out of my diet but my husband said he’d die if he couldn’t eat bread. He was incredibly skinny back then so he probably had a legitimate fear, had we cut those calories completely out of our diet and not replaced them. I don’t I told him how we’d replace them, and back then I probably would have replaced them with cake as it didn’t have the same effect on me. That came later.

I did have a small win a couple of decades ago while the children were young – we switched from bread 7 days a week to only a couple, using crackers such as Saladas as a substitute. I noticed that it was easier for me to say no to that extra cracker. A bonus was that because we weren’t eating sandwiches a lot of the sugary sandwich fillings disappeared from my diet too. My kids were home educated so that meant I didn’t have the issue of coming up with ideas for school lunches. I stopped regular baking too: we were having a cake or a batch of scones every day and if we made biscuits they wouldn’t last more than a couple of hours. However the shops were just down the road and we have an awesome award winning bakery in town! The kilos continued to pile on…

Fast forward to last year – we’re almost completely grain free, having given up cakes and biscuits but we were still fond of desserts and had them everyday. They were usually fruit based, but topped with icecream or cream or crumble or meringue. And we drank a lot of iced coffee and chocolate which is as loaded with sugar as those fizzy drinks. Our sweet tooth was still dictating our dietary habits. One thing both of us noticed as we gradually gave up grains over the years is that neither of us wanted or needed an early breakfast. We’d have a cuppa in the morning and not eat until 10.30am most days.

What we had gradually done over the years in cutting back on grains in our diet was replaced them with vegetables. Where most people we knew would have a few sliced of steamed carrot on their plate we’d have a whole carrot each. I’d buy a broccoli head and we’d have a quarter each. Veggies never made into the fridge at our place. We’d eat 250g of mushrooms each. Our plates were full of veggies. Our meat portions gradually shrunk as well to what was recommended. I began experimenting more with different spices and sauces. And we opted for dips and veggie sticks and a punnet of strawberries instead of traditional picnic fare. We also started buying and eating more nuts, replacing grains with almond meal, LSA, and ground nuts.

I’ve been following Michael’s TV series over the past couple of years and like his style and his integrity. I reflected that I was studiously avoiding watching that sugar movie that is doing the rounds – I understood and knew the message as my mum had been diabetic for close on 20 years (died of a heart attack at 82). Michael’s approach to the subject in his documentary was personal and it struck with me and it helped that I already trusted him as a doctor and a presenter.

We had resolved to go grain free last September and apart from eating rice in various forms had managed to stay that way without any problems. I think we ate about dozen things that had wheat in them over the next 6 months. My husband, thanks to our incredibly long transition to becoming wheat free, had no objections and didn’t feel any hungrier because he wasn’t eating those foods regularly. We had decided that we’d follow up grain free with sugar free beginning in the new year but this didn’t happen. We procrastinated. It was hard to kick the habit. Neither of us felt attached to sugar in particular; we both recognised our sweet tooth was more of an entrenched habit. We looked for that sweet taste after every meal.

A month ago we both started the BSD diet giving ourselves a week to adjust. Our first week our carbs were fairly high (I had never focused on counting carbs before and it was a whole new area of learning for me) and our calories around the 1200 mark. All we did was cut out the desserts, and sweet and savoury snacks and commercially produced iced coffees and chocolate drinks. We didn’t change our basic diet at all. It was already close to what Michael recommends in his book. And that made going on the 800FastBSD really easy.

I’m not sure I would have been able to stick to the diet without this preparation work. Having mental health issues dieting had always been difficult for me. I knew that dieting couldn’t be about denying myself food I loved, it had to be about changing habits. I knew that I had to diet to save my life rather than lose weight: being overweight was too emotionally charged for me. I was still allowing being called a fatty as a child to injure me. My mother’s condemning words on arrival seemingly every time she came to visit our family, “You’ve put on weight” still echoed in my head and I was still beating myself up for every kilo I’d put on over the years. All 42 of them! Grain based food comforted me as a child and it was hard to give up that comfort.

Learning to love myself and heal my emotional and psychological wounds have been as important as giving up grains and it’s been a deliberately slow and gradual work. I’ve forgiven myself time and again for not being slim and trim and for falling off diet bandwagons. I knew that one day I’d get there but didn’t realise how ill I had to become before I became desperate enough to give up sugar. And even then the threat of death didn’t motivate me. I’m a grandma now and those precious little people assume that I’m going to be around forever. I don’t want to disappoint them. That motivation has helped galvanise my commitment to stick to the Blood Sugar Diet, not just to lose this weight but to stay in a healthy weight range forever.

Hi David,
Will they post it to you? Other people are doing that, it arrives the following day. I know it keeps really well cos I usually only buy it when it’s reduced to half price.
From memory the barley wraps are even lower in carbs than 11g.
Keep up the good work 🙂

Grandma, there are macronutrient calculators online to help you answer that very question, including macronutrientcalculator.com.

Its numbers are, for 800 calories daily, 25% carb, 45% protein and 30% fat for a low-carb diet. So that’s 50g net carbs, 90g protein and 27g fat.

Me, I struggle getting to the 90g protein. It’s really more than I need, the rule is 0.8g protein per kilo of body weight. I’d have to be 112kg to use that much protein. And the nature of protein is you use it or lose it – the body does not store it.

As you get older, your activity levels might decrease and you should need less carbs. But in your case, you’re confusing me, you minx. If you’re a 48-year-old grandma, that’s not an issue. But if you’re the 48th person to choose the username gandma, I’ve no idea how old you are.

But the general advice is 45% – 55% of your daily calories should come from carbs if you’re trying to lose weight and that’s 90g – 110g of carbs daily. Fine, but if the aim here is to give your pancreas a holiday, that means more drastic reductions.

What you say Skywalker makes sense, but then the Force is with you so it should! 🙂

The BSD is balanced so it is providing us with everything we need while we use those stores in our body as fuel. I’m going to keep going as there is definitely enough food on my plate throughout the day to satisfy my hunger until I drop the first 20kg. I’ll reassess then. 🙂

I’m working on baking bread with coconut flour. I’ve got a nice collection of recipes ready to try. I even found a few for making bread with coconut flour in a bread machine. THOSE were not easy to come by. See, the thing is, coconut not being a grain it doesn’t illicit the insulin response grains like wheat and rice do, so for example:

Simple Sandwich Bread
12 slices per loaf

6 large pastured eggs
½ tsp. Celtic sea salt
12 Tbsp. Bob’s Red Mill Organic Coconut Flour (1.5g net carb per tablespoon)
½ c. organic grass-fed butter, melted

and the result is 20g net carbs for the loaf – 1.66g net carb per slice – mind you, 133 cal per slice

That’s from: http://healinggourmet.com/healthy-recipes/simple-sandwich-bread-gluten-free-grain-free-dairy-free-low-carb/

But as Tallyhoo said, it’s best to be cautious and stick with the plan.

Hi all,

Arrggg have not lost a gram for four days. Am not cheating and exercising lots. It’s Week 3 now anyone have any ideas? On the plus side an feeling very energetic and well and think I am losing my taste for alcohol. Thought I would try a wee dram of single malt as its carb free last night and ended up giving to my husband. My lime and soda was far more enjoyable.

Hashimoto have you bought that smart phone yet? Apart from using when you come to Oz you will find it invaluable at home too. Where is home? Would love to hear. I love that we are a worldwide network .

Am off now have a HUGE days gardening planned. Am on acres and there is always lots to do. The autumn weather in our neck of the woods here in New South Wales is truly gorgeous.

Tell me about. I nearly threw a street party when I realised I could throw out the Flora and return to Kerrygold after thirty years. But I figured it wouldn’t be much of a party if I was restricted to carrot batons and broccoli florets. So I didn’t.

To answer your question, I’ve no hunger pangs and I’m taking that as evidence that everything is as it should be. I believe the initial discomforts were mentioned in the literature along with an assurance it would all pass after the first few days.

I’m using Scitec Nutrition 100% Whey Protein Pro and it’s got 1.4g carb per 30g scoop. My favourite flavour is Chocolate Hazelnut. Replacing two meals a day with that is no ordeal. I mix it up with 250ml Alpro Unsweetened Almond Milk and while that has 0.1g carb per 100ml, it has also got 0.4g fibre. So that’s -0.8g net carbs for the 250ml of milk. And that comes up to 250 calories.

Now you’ve got me doing the math, I see that’s working out at nearly zero-carb for the shake. 1.4g + (-0.8g) = 0.6g Net carbs

Hmm, that gives me more wriggle room than I thought. On 800 calories a day, 5% of my energy coming from carbs means I’ve a daily limit of 10g net carbs – 5% of 800 being 40 and 4 calories per gram of carbohydrate giving me the 10g. And that last meal can be 300 calories. Do-able! With no snacks, though.

(That 5% figure seems to be the threshold to achieve ketosis – another story. I understand that is not a direct aim of this program.)

OK, that’s the plan. Two protein shakes to replace meals and 10g net carbs from as wide a range of low-carb veg as I like.

I’m starting Week 3 today. I’ve halved my Lantus dosage and my bolus shots of insulin are a fraction of what they had been. In fact, my daily total is significantly less than what I was taking to effectively cover one meal. And my glucose readings are finally on target – consistently.

Hi Orchid, Cherrianne & Bill,
Thanks for replying and for the encouraging words. One of the best things about these forums is being able to learn from the experience of people like yourselves.
I thought I needed to get below 50 carbs/day to trigger ketosis but on further reading and with your advice, maybe that’s not neccessary. I’ll keep on with what I’m doing for now and see how it goes.
Cherrianne, I looked for the Herman Brot bread you recommended but there are no stockists here in Tasmania. I found some Mediterranean Bakery low carb wraps at Woolies however and they are pretty good. 469 kj and 11 carbs per wrap.
Thanks again for your advice folks.
David

Thank you Penny & John,
Reading all the advice in these posts. Hoping I’ll be able to use it.☺️

Thanks SkyWalker.
I had a handful of nuts and a hot milky turmeric drink so am feeling warmer.
Much better than cake or a chip butty!

Hello JaneC, well, we often plateau and it is not uncommon to feel odd and cold especially as the fat starts to disappear it is like winter here on the East coast anyway. If you stick to the principles you can do as you like e.g. go onto 5: 2 for a few days or just eat something that will stave off the feelings. A poached egg and bacon with mushrooms and plum tomatoes is my treat but it still comes in around 200 kCal. Eggs are good as is most food except refined carbs and refined sugars. I have done 10 weeks before I got to the top of the Normal BMI range and had a few wobbles. Don’t beat yourself up. Eat well but make sure to drink and consume some fats like olive oil and butter to keep the energy supply coming. I like fish and meat of course but each to their own. Nobody is going to criticize you except yourself, the plan is about lifestyle change, the actual food items are secondary. You will be fine, keep going…

Brilliant results Glasgowgirl!
Penny

Hi Glasgow Girl
Welcome to the club.
Great results – Onwards & Downwards
John

8 weeks completed
BMI 30.5 from 35.5
Hb 1ac 42 from 65
Metformin dose halved
20cm off waist measurement
Feeling that a lot of good has been achieved
More energetic and better concentration.
Hoping I can keep up the good work.

Hi all,
I need some advice I think.
I’ve just finished 2 weeks on the fast 800. The first 10 days were a challenge, but I was so pleased with my weight and fat loss that it kept me positive.
I now seem to have reached a plateau. Not losing any more weight, feeling tired and hungry and get cold easily. This was not helped by having some cake at a birthday yesterday!
What do you do/eat when you’re really craving some comfort?

Hi eureka
Wow 13 people since Friday!
I need a weeks rest after I’ve had my family visit! You are doing a great job, if you aren’t tempted, I think it’s really hard watching family having a sweet treat,
I hope you lose lots of weight with all the entertaining and cooking!
I’m very pleased about my weight, although I did do lots of excercise, which I don’t do usually at home,
Christine

Hi Christi1948
Brill result. And it was your Birthday! Well done.

I’ve been catering for 13 since Friday. Trying to resist temptation, swimming & walking. Another notch in on my belt. Moved to new GP & seeing him next week. Should be interesting?

Cherrianne
Thanks very much for that info,how does it know average of past 3 months if I only go every 3 months ?? Interested to know this
Strangely I found an old card nurse used to fill in with all blood results and target for me
Six years ago It says target 6.5 but actual reading 6.8 this was HbA1c (,latest reading from 3 years ago 7.2 increase with weight !)

Just found this on line which explains it

Glycated hemoglobin is a form of hemoglobin that is measured primarily to identify the three month average plasma glucose concentration. The test is limited to a three month average because the lifespan of a red blood cell is three months. Wikipedia
Thank you very much for your input Alan

Day 58 weight 10st 4lbs
Blood sugar 8.5 ( really good – for me)

I found out yesterday that my BMI was 27.3 and that if I can get my weight down to 9st 7 lb I will no longer be classed as overweight. This is a real incentive for me.

Not sure if blood sugar is a blip or if it is finally coming down. Also if it is due to the Stevia?

RA, you say sugary things were your ‘my go to foods for every problem I ever had’ – but you’ve already proved to yourself that they’re the cause of some of your problems rather than an answer. It’s great thet you’re seeing improvements already and I’m sure you’ll soon feel even better.

The diet does take a little adjusting too, but you’ll findnew foods you enjoy just as much and which will make you feel good in the long term and not just when you’re eating them.

Hi Desperate Dieter thank you for your kind words it’s really amazing to have someone send such a positive reply so fast and I can’t wait to get started. I think I’m definately going to need that support though.
Feeling Boosted!

Well I got a 7.1 two hours after my chicken salad tonight and managed easily on the 800 calories not hungry at all !
Had boiled egg for breakfast ,subway full salad with chicken lunch as driving
Not sure how this equates to recommended meals tho.
Onward and upward
Alan

Hi baby steps
You have done the hardest part already… Choosing to improve your diet and follow this programme. Everyone on the forum is really supportive and prompt replies and help are always available here. If you have seen such a dramatic improvement in such a short time, you’ll be really impressed by the benefits when you start the diet proper. Good luck and keep us posted. You can do this.
Much joy

Hi I’m new and I am getting ready start the BSD. I’m type 2 diabetic and I have been for almost 12 years now and for almost 3 years I have been on basal insulin along with tablets. My weight is around 74kg and this is not the first time I’m trying the diet , I tried to do the 600-200 cal shake diet but it was too much for me. My health has been a mess and I’m a terrible Diabetic because I love chocolate, cakes, biscuits these are my go to foods for every problem I ever had! I might sound like a addict saying this (that’s cos I am) I have been 6 days clean of refined sugar I haven’t had any of my usual treats at all. On the first day I decided to stop eating sugary things I found the BSD book (by accident at waterstones) and cutting things that were coming up in the book that I was eating too much of like giant jacket potatoes, chips, bread, chips, pasta, chips … U get the idea. And since I tried cleaned up what I’m eating and added in more good food (more veg and fruit) i have already started to feel the benefit. This time two weeks back I was putting my insulin up a few units everyday and sneaking in an extra tablet and I still couldn’t get my sugars bellow 12!! I felt horrible everyday with no energy, I was struggling to work or focus and I felt myself sinking into depression again. Since I cleaned up a bit I feel way more energetic and I have even found (within one week!!) I don’t need to take the insulin anymore, it was just giving me hypos !! The tablets alone are controlling my blood sugars and I haven’t even started the diet yet! I plan to start as soon as I have spoken with my doctor and got the ok tomorrow. I have had some negative reactions from my family (like don’t get your hopes up and not everyone comes off the mess) but it’s understandable and I have asked them not to say it cos I’m ready for the worst. I am also a bit worried about some of the receipes in the book. I am only now teaching myself to eat fruit and enjoy it I don’t know if I’m disaplined enough to do 800 cal for 8 weeks, I’m hope I am. If I could loose weight and get off all my diabetes medication that would be an massive bonus for me .

I’m in week 9 and actually looking forward to continuing. I lost 2 stone 3 pounds so far but have a few more stone to go. The only change I am now considering is taking a general vitamin supplement. I’ll stop the supplement as soon as I reach normal bmi / weight and move to maintenance. My husband finishes 8 weeks on Friday- he is 3 stone down in weight, all blood markers greatly improved, but still has a few stone to lose. So, we are both going to keep going.will keep posting progress. Have a go… We have nothing to lose but weight.
Much joy

So pleased I’m not alone on the shopping front!

; )

Hi orchid
There we go then, shows how much my daughter in law knows! I thought it was nonsense!
Christine