I’ve tried two other calorie counting sites and found the same as you Adie. I know there’s a measurement error in ascertaining calorie content of foods but the discrepancy with BSD recipes is marked.

im a tofi – was 9st 7lb tostart with: type 2 3 yrs . stuck to bsd for 6 weeks ;though some lower readings bs still in diabetic range. disappointed – my diabetes is certainly not ‘ reversed’. lost 8lb though. 🙁

Oh I do eat whole eggs, the egg whites was simply an experiment as I am sometimes way over on my fat macro. I can’t get my head around splitting my own eggs and potentially throwing half away, particularly the yummiest half, but found some packaged egg whites and gave them a try. My favourite eggs are from a small farm in the Lake District. We get them every month or so when visiting my parents, and they really are the best tasting eggs I have ever found.

Oh and I don’t wear Lycra.

And there are skinny Minnie’s in the gym, but they are not so bad. I tolerate them 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
I used to be scared being in the same room as them.
Now I just need them off MY MACHINE so I can strut my stuff doing exercise.

LOOK AT THE WAY MY MIND SET HAS CHANGED.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Oh and regarding food,
I have , over the past. Month tried things I used to like eg chippy chips, and, well, they just taste gross!!!!
Greasy, stodgy, fatty, smelly and all words like that.

To think, I thought I could not survive without cornflakes for breakfast, now I have yogurt and berries.
For lunch maybe a salad or an apple.

I sort of eat now , a small amount to take the edge off my hunger, rather than eat a tone of foood in one sitting just in case the world runs out of carbs in the next ten minutes.

I changed little by little.
The biggest effort I did, was to start moving.
Just getting my big bottom off the settee was so big a task.

Then I couldn’t walk, I had to waddle so far and sit in a bus stop on their benches built into the shelter, pretending to wait for a bus. Catch my breath, then waddle off. I would sit on a wall, sit in a fence, sit on anything, to catch my breath and again waddle off.
The number of sitting downs reduced bit by bit.
Until, like yeaterday, I did 30 mins on the rowing machine, elliptical machine, the treadmill.
Then I went into the weighs room and bench presssed 150 pounds, and worked on other machines that I don’t know the names of, then a swim.
Don’t forget I cycle about two miles each way to the gym.
I thought the gym was less than a mile until hubby clocked it for me.
And I still did my 10,000 yesterday after the gym.

If I can do it, and I am a big old bird, then you can do it too.
Come onto the path with me, I am not that far ahead of you. Can you see me waving to you? I m waiting here for you, come and stroll up to me, we have plenty of time today.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Oh and I am fit enough o climb up a ladder
And slim enough to get through the loft or attic door.
Went up for him to look for his fishing net.

Lazy puppy.
Bit at least I can do it and
I treated it as a form of exercise.

Project this weekend is …. sit-ups
Got to get rid of that belly.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Me get help at home?
He stays in bed while I get up cycle to the gym from 6.30.
Do 90 mins, cycle home.
Then sleeping beauty awakens……

I do the bulk of my exercise very early so I don’t get moaned at.
I can then secretly do my 10,000 steps just plodding around through out the day.

So, if I can do it without any backing etc so can you.
And if you get an ounce of encouragement , know that in my world, you would be a king.

Keep strutting your stuff.

Love. Lucia
Xxxx

Bloke41, that’s amazing. Well done to you and your wife.

Ruthdownunder, thanks for the info. I’ll have a look at my “daft question thread” in a bit and post there too. Lots to take in.

For now, today’s figures:
84.4 kg
-0.1 kg
Overall change -4.1 kg
Yesterday’s food and exercise
847 calories
49 net carbs
Four hours’ digging (I’ll be swimming in cabbages and caulis this winter!)

My Fitness Pal is populated by users. Some enter data carefully – others, not so much. You have to have check each entry – or have a pretty good eye for recognizing which entries are correct. I don’t know where FatSectet gets its data.

MFP uses the US way of counting carbs – the carbs include fiber, so if you want to know net carbs you have to subtract fiber.

One more thing. I am not sure that MFP and Fatsecret count all fibre properly. Someone will probably tell yeah or nay

Sunshine-girl we used to call that impossible pie back in the day ( it had some flour decades ago) I think you could call it a baked frittata now and serve it at expensive cafes. It sounds yummy

Mixnmatch eat your whole eggs, fat and protein and delish!

Snoop have you tried paleo style pancakes.We have something in Oz called LSA – ground linseeds, almonds and sunflower seeds and it makes the best healthy pancakes. You could used coconut flour – or Frog’s delicious pomlette with besan (gram flour I think you call it – chickpea anyway.) I use milk and eggs, but you could use water, less egg and a pinch of baking soda for the puff up. There are all sorts of recipes out there I have mine for brekkie with a smidgin of greek yoghurt and a little fruit, but they also toast well and make very easy pretend bread. Almond flour is very dear here as well as in the UK – have learnt that here, but a good blender will make your own dry mixture into quite reasonable flour .

The heart attacks must have been very worrying for you, and OH, but if he sticks to this plan his sugar levels will go down – look at CaptainLynne, Bill54 and many others who have posted here and his blood pressure should drop quite dramatically. And his cholesterol levels, even if he eats some eggs. I am afraid I eat a little bacon as well, but I am very old and stuck in my ways. Not so stuck that I found this WOE brilliant and successful even though I am slower than most. My cholesterol and BP have come down even with relatively small weight loss

I will pipe down now

Good luck to all

Hi, you are all doing very well. Just want to let you know that the keto site reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq says that grams of fibre do not count because we do take them in. So if you can find out any many grams of fibre in your blackberries or whatever you can probably deduct them from your carbs. MFP won’t do it, as far as I know. Other cleverer folk than I have put proper links to that site and its other pages in their posts.

On the other hand that site does warn about too much fruit!

Keep on keeping on lovely folk. As Yowzer says it is elementary!

ruth

Well done everyone. Amazing calorie control Snoop! I’m sure the gardening is a great diversion and good exercise too. Bloke41 very nice! Glad your other half is on board and you’re succeeding together.

Mmm…glad you mentioned boiled eggs. Arthurconandoyle. Going to make some tomorrow…need to change it up some…

Today’s #s:
Weght: 163lbs pleased to be back to this so fast considering time of month.
Calories:730
Carbs: 40

Brought the scale and lots of herbal tea on vacation with me. Here we go…

Impressive figures, bloke41. Congratulations to both of you!

Week 3 done and dusted, todays weigh in result, 150.5kg, waist 148cm, start weight 159.9 kg, waist 158cm. Total weight loss to date 9.4kg. My wife is doing dinners and breaky with me and having normal lunch. Shes lost 3kg and 11cm off her waist do date. Made skinny chilli yesterday, quite partial to it, though need more chilli next time.
Stepped up to 1.5 hr walk a day and about to up book exercises to 3 reps per 3 days a week. Have a great week all

Yep saw the tortoise goodnight 💤💤💤

Night all x dont have nightmares after that film JAN x
One last try..no didnt work 🙁 x nighty night x

Ditto. I too listened on radio 2 but am 6 days in. Found first few days very difficult. Had a few wobbles.

Your weight loss is fantastic, well done.

Hoping I lose something this week.

Keep going!

Waitrose not Waitress. I must turn auto-correct off – who needs it on a computer with a proper keyboard?!

@shalimar – of course, the free abundance of honey in the supermarket makes you forget just what a precious commodity it is. Did you know that “an average worker bee makes only about 1/12 teaspoon of honey in its lifetime.” That’s according to the Golden Blossom website.

Took my son swimming this morning, and then spent ages unsuccessfully trying to get him to sleep in his pushchair. So it wasn’t until 14:45 that we had “brunch”! I was starving. Went to see original illustrations by Quentin Blake for the BFG and Kitty-in-Boots books at the House of Illustration, and stopped at Waitress to get some missing ingredients, some more tubs for taking breakfast and lunch into work, and a spiralizer.

Black coffee
Smoked salmon and poached egg stack – absolutely delicious!
Harissa Chicken – Mrs C did this a bit differently – she roasted the chicken with the pine nuts, parsley, oil, spring onions, and the Harissa paste, raisins. We steamed the haricot beans and served them both on a green salad with mint. It tasted delicious. We agreed that it would have been better with a small portion of veg on the side rather than the salad.

First thing tomorrow is measurements day. Looking forward to it!

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn276/yowzer2008/image_zpswenqxbfk.jpeg
Can you see this one? X ( i cant see it)

JAN you saw the horse pic? It didnt show up at all on my page! X

Thanks, guys. All good info. Am really looking forward to reading the books and getting going ‘properly’, especially as the two of us will be doing it.

It’s a horror film on the horror channel, and working early tomorrow, the film is weird with a capital W

Yes it did I saw it

JAN?.Triangle..was that from th 70s?
Why the early start tomoz or shd i mind my beeswax? X

AFTER DAY 3
Weight: 74.2 (again)
Walking : 8000 steps.

Funny, I had forgotten how much I enjoy boiled eggs. 😊 For some reason they had slipped off the menu. Have rediscovered 75 calories of deliciousness.

Tried again….nope,not working 😐😐😐

Hi Snoop, my breakfast this morning was a portobello mushroom, grilled and topped with half a can of baked beans (for the fibre) and cheese. It was lovely. Is this a book recipe? I don’t actually have the book but am sure I have seen it mentioned on here.

Most of the demonisation of eggs regarding cholesterol seems to have been now debunked, as the dietary cholesterol does not seem to be absorbed, so eggs should be regarded as a good addition. I have also been experimenting with egg white omelette’s which are a bit weird when you are used to full egg one’s like I am. Tasty though. These may be another option. Possibly kippers 😮 as well might work for the protein.

Good luck with the transition, my OH isn’t really on the diet, but is eating my evening meals, with lower carbs, and he has noticed a diminishing carb hunger, he often misses breakfast now, waiting to eat until he is really hungry and has lost over a stone, while still eating bread etc. He isn’t diabetic but does have a thyroid problem which he is medicated for.

JAN i hope so. Want to be around for a long time yet! X

Keep going folks! Pony up and ride yr horse,clippety clop! X

( thats odd.tried to put a horsey pic on but it wdnt stick )🤔🤔🤔

Lucia, just letting you know I think you are wonderful. Hope you are getting more help at home.

What strong legs!

Verano I am with sunshine-girl. Enjoy your holiday.

I finally got around to reading the faq on the keto site and it talks about many and long plateaus . Very interesting

sunshine-girl good luck with the Zumba certificate

Morning Ruth luvvy, did you sleep well, another amazing rebooting day ahead huh.😊

Thanks RUTH! x yes wasnt it soul destroying at WW and SW!
SW used to sell these biscuity bars..they were soooooo addictiv,goodness knows what was in them!
After the first pack i didnt buy them any more coz i ate the whole pack within an hour. Thinking back they were very very sweet..tooo sweet!
Happy reboot rebooters! X

Ooh crikey Yowser, sounds like he’s crackers, you’ve obviously got good karma. 😇

Jan I hope you slept tight, Yowzer also. Some of us have been in bed sleeping and thinking about our reboot.
loopyloo all claps from me too., I used to lose 3/4 kgs at ww over several months and then give up.

Sometimes its not a bad thing JAN coz it confuses yr body out of starting to think, oh no! Maybe theres a famine,i better hang onto the cals n carbs! so you get a little boost.
Not to be done too often of course!
Watching a film called Last Quartet about a group of musicians xx
A little treat i bought DD is shouting to me from th fridge… a little pot of salted caramel choccy dessert! But i’ m taking no notice
Lucky to be alive.. As me n Beau drove along Albert Dock yesterday, a double decker sightseeing bus just pulled out in front of us..driver oblivious! Could have been brown bread! We saw him later stil driving a tourist bus and laughing madly to himself!

Just had a look, looks interesting, I’m watching triangle, although I really should go have a shower and wash my hair, have a very early start tomorrow

Thanks, stuck to low carb, not one simple carb made it’s way onto my plate and no pudding. Did have a larger portion than planned but mainly veg, so pretty pleased. Greek yogurt and blueberries when I got home. How’s it going Susieb?
Night, night everyone xx

Hi Yowser,
Lost it today and eat all sorts, haven’t a clue why I did it. Never mind tomorrow’s another day, what you watching.

I’ m here never fear JAN!
Been busy all day and just starting to watch film on beeb 2 with a cuppa and some total yog and berries!
Pretty tired so not sure if i’ ll make it to the end of the film X hugs xx

Where’s everyone gone, no posts for over 12 hours, what’s up peeps, are you all out having fun . I’m washing my hair, hehe

Hi Sunshine-girl
I am diabetic and was on insulin also. I suddenly became very ill and was admitted to hospital and diagnosed with diabetes. There was quite a lot of debate between the doctors about which type of diabetes I had. After a lot of thought they decided I had type 1 and I was discharged with a supply of insulin (Lantus for night time and Novarapid after each meal). Since then there has been speculation about which sort of diabetes I had. It was quite confusing but a nurse did tell me that it didn’t matter what the diagnosis was because the important thing was that I got the right treatment.

I started on the BSD because I was gradually becoming less sensitive to the insulin (when diagnosed, and a few years after I was very sensitive to insulin) and had also developed retinopathy. I was really hopeful that I could help the retinopathy with the BSD.

Luckily, I must have had type 2. On the BSD my insulin sensitivity improved to what it was when first diagnosed and the retinopathy has completely gone. I think my visceral fat didn’t go first – I think it didn’t start going until I was close to my ideal weight and my waist started getting smaller. Once I got closer to my ideal weight an amazing thing happened – I suddenly no longer need the insulin. None at all.

I am assuming that you are on Lantus which is apparently notorious for putting on weight and I am sure it was the Lantus that contributed to my very slow weight loss – 1stone 1lb in 4 months (although it did’t help that I was guessing the weight of my food). I have lost another 8lb since the beginning of September and am very close to my ideal weight.

I totally agree that this has to be a way of life if you have diabetes. Prof Taylor says in the forward to MMs book that you only stay diabetes free if you don’t put the weight back on. In my case that means I have to stay on the BSD for life. Actually that is not going to be a hardship as I love the food now.

another 2 pounds for me 25 all together

Hi JillyB
Congratulations on your good results. I totally agree that when you are diabetic this is a way of life as we cannot put any weight back on (as Professor Taylor says in the forward to MMs book).

One and a half pounds this week.
Happy as long as I am losing and staying healthy.

Keep moving everyone

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Yes Verano, we do seem to be a bit stuck, but I have a challenge, I am seeing my doctor AGAIN on Friday and want to be down1kg by then, already 0.3 so not too much to ask. I am not ill, I want to join a Zumba class and you are not allow without a medical certificate. Bit silly really but it has to be done.

I am on track for 800 cals today as I got to 740 and allowed a square of chocolate which takes me to 800 and I have saved some of my dinner for my snack tonight so it has already been counted. You are not clutching at straws, maybe just over thinking it. You are on holiday, don’t worry. Maybe a small gain will give your body the boost it needs to start shifting again.

Feeling quite energetic today, over 10,000 steps logged.

OH has decided he wants to join in so I am having to log his food as well as mine. He is 72, 13st 11lb, 5ft 8in, he does quite a lot of intensive rowing (single sculls) so is worried that 800 cals will not be enough – he is thinking of aiming for 1000 cals.

I have logged 1037 cals today, with 84 carbs, but we did have sausages and roasted veg for dinner, tasty though! Will try harder tomorrow.

Have been trying fasting diets as I wanted to drop around a stone. Got interested in Dr Jason Fung and have tried a couple of 4 day fasts… over the last month. No bad effects, just need to start eating again at my new weight. Yay!!
But Wifey got a blood glucose meter, as she is seriously overweight, but now doing LCHF.. pretty much a form of BSD.

So this morning, I had 9.2mmol, after 5k parkrun and a bit of gentle cycling, fasted for 13hours. ??
And I’m the normal one..! Lowest I’ve ever seen was 5.8.. in the afternoon. 9.2..eh!?
Am I prediabetic..?
Cheers,
r1ssole.

Hi Snoop, one of my favourite breakfasts is 2 large mushrooms grilled topped with a poached egg. Nice and simple and satisfying. I am sure you will find it easier when the books arrive. Try to get him out of the mindset that fat is bad, okay no fried bacon but lean and grilled is okay. If it is a worry for him then he doesnt have to eat bacon but eggs are an excellent source of protein and easy to make into lots of things. Tonight we are having a quiche made with browned chicken and bacon bits plus an onion and red pepper (I like to pad things out) mixed into 4 eggs and 8oz of cottage cheese and poured into a flan dish, in the oven at 210 degrees for 25 mins. Served with salad but my hubby is having a few oven chips. Notice, the quiche does not have any pastry but still delish.