Lyn.g I haven’t had nausea but I find I can get very depressed on a low carb diet. People vary. My plan for myself (not that I’ve stuck to it well, so I can’t tell you if it works) is to have more healthy carbs – quinoa and lentils etc not crackers or bread. In the original BSD book there is no carb limit and a lot of recipes include healthy carbs. Many or most people on this forum limit carbs to 50g or less a day but that isn’t compulsory. You could try adding some low GI carbs to your meals and see if that helps.
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Well done …I’m with you. Halfway through week two and I’m down 12lb. Have a good week.
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I’m eating too much cheese too, Angela06. But we can’t give up everything!
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Good morning everyone. I hope you all had a good weekend, that you’ve well and truly got your voice back, Captain Lynne and that temperatures in Australia have moderated. At least when it’s cold here we can wrap up!
My peaks for the weekend: our friends/neighbours came for a meal on Saturday. I was pleased with what I put together, roast lamb with a garlic and rosemary rub, ratatouille, and rice for them followed by some nice cheese with a leafy salad. I suggested ice cream and fruit for dessert after I refused their offer of bringing chocolate mousse but no one was interested. (I think they might have eaten the mousse before they arrived!)
The pit: All pretty reasonable it seemed but I still managed to gain 600g overnight! Probably because I’m now addicted to cheese and just eat too much. Grrh!
Peak: This morning those grams had disappeared and I’m back to Friday’s weight. So frustrating, so much time lost.
The biggest pit: I think this is the end of the road for cheese and me. It’s got to go, along with the chocolate, bread, potatoes, sugar, wine etc etc…
Have a good Monday (is that possible?)
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posted by Not giving up this time on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 13 Feb 2017 at 03:40 in Fast 800The problem with me is that I have sugar and milk in all my teas and coffees.. just make some realise how much sugar and carb dependant my life has been.
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I am at the end of week 4, and have lost about 5kg, 10cm off my waist and bloods have been good. All of those results happened very quickly and not much has happened for a while. It seems a very common occurrence and as my hubby is doing really well and really needed the diet, I am enjoying his successes with weight, cms, and in particular blood pressure which gave an almost normal reading on the weekend.
My biggest issue is that I am still experiencing nausea, randomly and on Friday resorted to my pregnant nausea solution of nibbling crackers to relieve it. I am 61 and definitely not pregnant.
I have been adhering to the 800 calorie diet (some days going under 800) and exercise program, quite strictly and walking most days for about an hour.
Didn’t want to increase my carbs, but have started having crackers and tomato for lunch , instead of celery carrot hummus and light tuna in springwater. It’s lower in calories, and makes my tummy feel much better.
Is anyone else feeling nauseous?
I have been doing the 5:2 diet for some time and haven’t had this and that was with two 500 calorie days each week, so just don’t understand it.
It comes and goes so it’s not going to put me off continuing and other than when I feel sick, I feel great and so much more in control of myself.
I’m inspired by all the stories on the forums and very thankful for having found this way to take control, as well as impressed by the way the rest of the household has taken to it, in their own ways. It really is a way of life for everyone. I have three boys. The youngest is very sedentary and computer bound, and has lost 10kg without being too strict with himself. The middle son is very active, playing a number of sports and training many times through the week and working on a 1000 calorie day and 1200 when he trains and is really enjoying the meals and has lost a little weight, but more changed his shape a bit. Th eldest son is a nurse and apart from a couple of social events where he has lapsed from the regimen, has been the most strict with calorie intake of all of us.
More power to you all.
As MM says, lapses are no big deal, just don’t let yourself relapse.
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posted by FindingMe on Starting 30 January 2017, anyone fancy joining me?
on 13 Feb 2017 at 03:06 in Starting the BSDHi Everyone. I’m back on the 800cal program again today after a “oopsy” few days away which, once I started it, I found was Very Hard for me to get myself back in line again and it’s taken me ten days. Ah well, lessons eh.
Shanshu – I hope you don’t mind me suggesting this as I’m certainly not qualified on dieting but do work as a longtime health practitioner. My understanding has always been that if one is feeling tired, particularly in the early stages of a food reduction/change, it is important to rest and not push with the exercise. And if this feeling continues, then it’s advisable to get some health checks done in case some levels have changed and you may need tweaking of medication or food.
Keep up the good work everyone. Still a heatwave here in Oz, phew.
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posted by Salma1985 on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 13 Feb 2017 at 02:26 in Fast 800Tuna, broccoli, diet jelly for lunch.
I need to ensure I get it more exciting than this or I shall definitely fall off the wagon ha ha.
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posted by Evan165 on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 13 Feb 2017 at 01:04 in Fast 800Hi Not giving up this time just my opinion but going cold turkey on caffeine as well as reducing the calories may be more pain than you want to take on at once This is my second go round with this diet I had great success but put a few pounds back on due to a surgery over the summer. I have been pretty inactive and kind of depressed so have been eating more than I should have for maintenance. I would say the thing that got me through my first eight weeks on the diet was a coffee in the morning and several espressos throughout the day. Really their are many health benefits to coffee I just stay away from lattes cappuccinos and other mainly milk based drinks. Best of luck
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posted by Not giving up this time on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 13 Feb 2017 at 00:41 in Fast 800Let’s motivate each other to reach our respective goals. Let’s do it .. once and for all…
Intending to buy the book in my lunch break today..
Day 1 for me, no tea, no coffee, no sugar and no high carbs. Headaches are starting to kick in. On my third bottle of water now…
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posted by alphonso mango on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 13 Feb 2017 at 00:17 in Fast 800Hi, I have started 800 cal diet around 28th Jan. I have lost around 3 Kg weight in 2 and bit weeks. I do not use any artificial shakes or mixes. I calculate every calorie I take in and aim to stay v close to 800 cal per day. Some days it goes a little higher. If I feel like having a very occasional drink on weekend, I take a vodka with slimline tonic rather than a pint… but have been largely off c2h5oh.
AFter a first few days I have settled in a rhythm now and not many hunger pangs but have to really really really be disciplined about counting calories in everything… including a polomint… I have 4 Kg more to lose to get to my target weight -
posted by SueBlue on Just starting out…would welcome some company :)
on 12 Feb 2017 at 23:55 in Welcome to the BSDWelcome Caroline and good luck 🙂
I am in my early 50’s also, and knew I needed a re-think, as each year over the last decade my weight has crept up and up!
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posted by Keepongoing on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 12 Feb 2017 at 23:40 in Fast 800Have been following this WOE since beginning of Feb but have fallen off the rails over the weekend so am hoping that posting on here will give me the motivation to get straight back on.
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posted by Pancita on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 12 Feb 2017 at 23:08 in Fast 800Hi guys,
I had a few experimental meals last week, but am keen to start properly tomorrow. Buddying up with some other enthusiastic newbies would be fabulous for me!
I am going to have my usual porridge for breakfast though. I hate eggs and will need to do some research on non-white-carb-y breakfasts to see what else is available…
Good luck and happy eating to you all!
(PS I am in Glasgow, UK.)
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posted by Salma1985 on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 12 Feb 2017 at 22:22 in Fast 800I am restarting today! Fell off wagon in a big way due to having no will power over siblings birthdays, winery tours etc. But I’m back baby! Day 1 and 2 boiled eggs for breakky down..here I am!!!!
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posted by Shanshu on Starting 30 January 2017, anyone fancy joining me?
on 12 Feb 2017 at 22:04 in Starting the BSDToday is the first day since I started BSD I haven’t made my 11,000 steps target. It was just too cold to stay outside anymore. I could go upstairs and use my step machine but I’m too tired.
Today’s summary:
Calories: 786
Carbs: 28
Water: 2.5L
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I did a 48 hour fast not that long ago (water, salt and bone broth only) and still managed my 2-3 hour walks without feeling any different, but I am fat adapted and in full ketosis. Just persevere, you’ll be fine, it’s still early for you.
Cheers
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I’m the same, having been on maintenance since September, I still weigh every day and find that I can tweet my daily diet accordingly if I fluctuate a bit. I no longer get demoralised by increases as I know it could be down to one of many things that have nothing to do with what you put in your mouth!
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posted by LindaA on Our Next Interactive 4 Week Challenge ends Tues 21st Feb
on 12 Feb 2017 at 21:40 in Welcome to the BSDThanks sunshine-girl, Maharani kitten and AnnieW, I’ve been down the antidepressant route in the past and probably won’t go there again. My symptoms are getting better now that the super hot weather has abated, so I’ll persevere with the ‘natural’ supplements I’ve been taking along with the odd over the counter sleeping pill if I get desperate.
I really appreciate everyone’s advice and concern and love the way we all look out for each other.
It’s Monday morning now and today is expected to be a more manageable 27 deg, so I’ll be able to get out for a long walk today after not going for 9 days. Interestingly, I’ve gained 2 kg in that time without really changing my eating habits. Just goes to show that with exercise, we can eat a bit more and maintain, but cut it out and the weight increases!
Have a great week everyone!
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Great that you are planning on how you deal with your weigh going forward, Mixnmatch. Like you, I will certainly eventually be using the 800 to bring the pounds back down, when they creep back up. It’s feels good to know how to take control doesn’t it. And you are right about the weighing thing, there is evidence that weighing daily improves success rates. Regardless, I personally find that it keeps me focused and no matter what the results, it spurs me on and makes me more determined.
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If you have dropped your carb levels quite significantly you may have a form of ‘keto flu’ which is caused by low electrolytes. Try upping your salt/magnesium/potassium levels. I find a cup of miso broth works for me but some people recommend a cup of hot bovril or homemade bone broth. Magnsium supplements can be useful (and help you to avoid problems in the loo department) and avocados and spinach both have a lot of potassium.
It does get better but if you are cutting back on carbs and drinking a lot of water you will be excreting more electrolytes so have to work harder to keep your levels up.
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Hey KJ
Way to go!
Keep at it, before you know it, you’ll be s size 14 or 12 or 10 or ??
You’ve got the power to get wherever you want to be!
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I too weigh every day but I’d love to get to a point of weighing just once a week. Maybe when I get in the 10 stone something I’ll see if I can weigh just once a week… bit of a challenge but I do like the idea of it. I think it’s being mentally ready as anything else when you are trying to adjust to a new way of life. And eating this way is a way of life.
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posted by Northernbloke on SUCCESS Guilt Free Chocolate Brownies (cakes)
on 12 Feb 2017 at 21:21 in Fast 800The recipe as in the book is just nasty. Very dry mixture with bitter cacao nibs. Probably needs major changes as described above to save this recipe
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posted by caroline66 on Just starting out…would welcome some company :)
on 12 Feb 2017 at 20:39 in Welcome to the BSDHi, I’m also starting out – looking for a new me! Read the book, found some lovely recipes and shopped for the week BSD style! Also got some new walking shoes and a route planned that is do-able most evenings. Hoping to lose 3+ dress sizes and re-think life in my 50’s so here goes…
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posted by Not giving up this time on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 12 Feb 2017 at 20:33 in Fast 800Thanks everyone for your kind responses. To be honest, I do really hate meal replacement stuff, but I am kind of desperate here. I am only 35, 2 young kids, husband and I both work full time and no family to support as such. BTW.. I am from Australia. Bought optifast so at least I have some structure to start with my weight loss… once I lose the initial 10-15 kilos… I would be sticking to real food and in line with the BSD diet. I am really looking for motivation and support during these times. I had gestational diabetes during both my pregnancies and now my blood sugar seems to be on the higher end. I really really want to reverse this and restart my life.
P.s – I have been an emotional/ binge eater and a sugar addict.
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posted by Evan165 on Buddy for starting 800cals diet from 13/02/2017
on 12 Feb 2017 at 20:29 in Fast 800I am in let’s start and get it done!
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I stayed on 800 BSD, low carbohydrate until I reached target – a lot longer than 8’weeks (9 months). I still keep my carbs low, but don’t stress too much about calories. Eating Mediterranean style. Since reaching target, I’ve slowly lost another stone. No plans to change what I’m doing – it woks for me.
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posted by Jackie WilsonSaid on A calming and inspiring Audiobook: The Art of Breathing by Dr Danny Penman
on 12 Feb 2017 at 19:55 in MindfulnessIt’s an entertaining, brief and practical guide to breathing meditation/mindfulness. I have read many books on the subject and listened to a bunch of recordings, lectures etc., but enjoyed this one so much that I felt compelled to put a review on Amazon.
It is very complementary to changing lifestyles as in BSD and grounded in knowledge like Dr MM’s work.The Art of Breathing by Dr Danny Penman
“I first got the AUDIOBOOK as a free Amazon trial from Audible, having seen Danny Penman talking on TV, and heard Oxford centre 8-week course recordings. I bought the book for my daughter for Christmas. I found the audiobook was excellent. It puts things in a nutshell; thoughts and practices that you might have pondered for years are explained simply and concisely. Particularly useful are the 10 minute meditations in later Chapters. I use the Breathing meditation often c/o iPad when I want to meditate but not for ages. It is something you can return to regularly since DP’s voice has a pleasant, positive and encouraging tone. At other times I like to meditate for longer in silence or to a bit of ambient Eno or with the sounds of the sea etc., but I like this guilt-free, practical approach to breathing meditation. It’s a reminder to just meditate in the time available as a part of everyday life, not to strive for self-improvement, just to be more mindful of the moment.”[I have no connection]
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posted by Maharani kitten on What's your next mini goal?
on 12 Feb 2017 at 19:40 in Welcome to the BSDMix&match, that is honestly such an inspiration. Last time I lost 3 stones I put it in a rucksack and went for the brisk walk I do morning and evening – only got halfway round! Imagine the reduced strain on every part of you! You’ve really spurred me on today. Amazing! MKx
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posted by Mixnmatch on Share your no.1 breakfast go-to…..
on 12 Feb 2017 at 19:35 in Starting the BSDThat sounds like a great recipe for Huevos Rancheros, I will have to try it next Saturday. 2lb a week is about right, maybe 3 on a really good week. I lost 26 pounds over the 8 weeks, but some people have lost more, and there were a couple of weeks I didn’t hit the 2 pounds even.
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Hi Northernbloke, great weight loss so far, and the lack of hunger pangs is the thing that distinguished this diet for me from all of the others I have tried. I remember only too well the classic ‘low fat’ feeling of emptiness.
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Thanks JM, not a killjoy, just realistic and with probably more understanding than I have about lifting such heavy weights. I will be very cautious indeed. I have no desire to injure myself or anyone else, and even my probable failure to lift it more than maybe an inch or so from the ground at most would be very powerful in terms of showing me how far I have come. I certainly have no intention of wearing it at that weight, although I might give it a go with the 26 kg.
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posted by Northernbloke on What's your next mini goal?
on 12 Feb 2017 at 18:58 in Welcome to the BSDJust starting week 3 on the diet – weight loss is 1st, next mini goal is to lose next 4lbs and get to next stone down. as it were. Diet seems fine so far, not suffering with hunger pangs etc
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Hi MnM
I don’t want to be a killjoy, but 50kg is very heavy. If I were you, I would be a little cautious trying to lift and control a weight like that.
But congratulations again, it is a truly remarkable achievement.
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Hiya LizV,
Well I’ve got a few things that are working for me – depending on what I have on in the mornings.
My absolute favourite breakfast is Huveros rancheros, which is a weekend breakfast really. Eggs, plum tomatoes, spinach, chorizo, onion, paprika, cayenne and red pepper. This keeps me going till dinner time. Bit of a luxury breakfast.
During the week I have been having the following:
* Rolled up ham/cheese with apple or sometimes with turkey.
* 2 x chopped boiled eggs in cup with butter, salt and pepper
* Smoked Mackrel and tomatoes
* Poached eggs, spinach and baconHad porridge once but I ended up feeling hungry about 2 hours afterwards plus it maxes me out on carbs so avoiding for the time being.
I made myself some breakfast muffin’s which are mostly oats, I made a huge batch and stuck them in the freezer. I usually have a very long and boring meeting first thing on a Thursday morning (3+hrs) so I take it with me on a Thursday.
Working up to low carb pancakes – might give this a go at the weekend.
I’ve settled into it now and sticking with it.
I hit a plateau last week which I knew to expect.
How much do people lost most weeks? I’m probably heading for a 2lb loss this week, feel a bit disappointed by this. Heard of people losing swathes of weight in the first 8 weeks!
Xx
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Congratulations on your amazing results! I still have that feeling of disbelief sometimes at week six. Love it! Best wishes for the upcoming weeks.
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Wow! Congratulations! If you don’t mind a question, are you still on the 800 calories per day or have you transitioned to the 5-2 plan or something else? My husband and I are on week 6 and have had great results but still have a ways to go and we’re trying to decide if we’ll continue with the 800 or transition to something more moderate (still eating the same food). Congrats again!
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Ouch. Put my new weights in the rucksack to see what it was like, just 26 kg so far, as I need to get some sand for my new sandbag for most of the rest and 26 kg is really heavy. I haven’t tried wearing it yet, would need help lifting it onto my back, but that is nowhere near the final total of course. How on earth did I even walk around with an extra 50 kg?
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How’s it going? Did you find anything that works really well?
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I love the title of this post. One day at a time. For me day 4 and 5 were the most difficult emotionally. I felt surprisingly angry that I couldn’t comfort myself with food. Someone suggested to get enough fat and salt and both really helped. Good luck! Once you get through this part it really is much easier.
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posted by LizV on Over the moon with our first week weight loss
on 12 Feb 2017 at 17:50 in Starting the BSDCongratulations on your losses! My husband and I have an occasional glass of red wine as well and still are losing at a good rate. Compared to what we used to drink, sticking to an occasional glass is kind of miraculous.
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Happy Monday. Starting weight for this week is 122.85. YAH!! really starting to see and feel the difference now. Tried on some shorts the other day, as we are going to Raro in May for hubbies birthday. Well – 24 was a little too big and 22 fitted but a little snug. Let me just tell you bout the smile on my face for the rest of the day!! 🙂 Seeing as I started out at size 28, I was feeling pretty dam good about it all!
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posted by LizV on HELP Dr M. WHAT NEXT AFTER THIS 800 BLOOD SUGAR DIET
on 12 Feb 2017 at 17:45 in Starting the BSDI have the same questions. It is my understanding that this 8 week process in theory does reverse the insulin dependence so that our bodies are able to once again process fats and carbs normally, thus making the Mediterranean diet possible. (For those who haven’t been type 2 for a long time). I don’t know if I’m going to be able to do it though. I read about someone (in the book I think) who continued to take blood sugar readings while reintroducing some of the carbs and ultimately decided to just avoid them because of the resulting spike in blood sugar. It probably varies depending on how long you’ve been in imbalance? I’m planning to mostly continue with a low glycemic load, Mediterranean diet blend with the 5-2 plan.
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Amazing achievement Mixnmatch. I’m sure you’ll be fine with maintenance. There are quite a few maintainers here who I’m sure will share the up and downs of maintaining. I always think the easier .. mmmm …. part is the losing it’s the maintaining that’s more difficult. Mind you if you have your wedding dress as a reminder of days gone by then that’s bound to be a help!
Good luck for your new journey.
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Thanks so much to all of you for your posts and support here. It’s so encouraging to check in and read your tips and experiences! I wish I could “like” your posts because sometimes what you write resonates so much.
I’m feeling happy because my kids (young teens) are eating so much healthier now. They’re actually eating healthy vegetables and fish and soups and quinoa, etc. They still get to eat bread and carbs of course but they are eating a more Mediterranean style diet. We’ve transitioned our desserts into being more of a treat than an every day occurrence, as well as fast food, which we used to eat multiple times per week. I’ve been struggling to fix our diet for years but something about this diet and finally understanding how harmful sugar is, it’s working. I feel so relieved and thankful.
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I weigh all the time, every day, even now i am quasi-maintaining. I will probably try to always weigh at least weekly, because all the yo-yo problems I had in the past started with me stopping weighing myself, and the studies appear to show that people who keep weighing themselves both lose more weight and keep it off better. On the other hand I am in a better place mentally to deal with a modest weight increase than I have ever been, since I now know exactly what to do to bring it down again, and approximately how long it will take. I intend to never go a stone above this weight without another round of 800 to bring it down again, so even when I return to a less strict way of eating after my birthday there is that safety net. I will be having the occasional ice cream or slice of full fat cake, but will balance that with intermittent fasts and low carb days from my new BSD toolbox.
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I have just pulled my wedding dress out of the loft, and hung it up to see if the creases drop out. Size 14 says the handwritten label inside so it could be just a tad large on me now 😂 I’m not putting the weight back on so it fits better though! 😊
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posted by SaltySeaBird on HELP Dr M. WHAT NEXT AFTER THIS 800 BLOOD SUGAR DIET
on 12 Feb 2017 at 16:52 in Starting the BSDHi Denis, take a look at Marks Daily Apple – it is a Primal living website which is also pretty much the same as the BSD in terms of low-carb, high fat/protein. There is also some excellent advice on gaining an ideal (for you) body composition through exercise and training. I became a Primal convert quite a while back and was delighted when MM’s research backed up what some people, up until then, thought was crazy!
Mark Sisson (the Mark in the Daily Apple), also has some really good, detailed advice on the carbs you should or should not be eating, depending on where you are with body-weight, fat levels, exercise etc,Well done on your achievement – you should be really proud of yourself.
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Well done on losing a stone Doodle – this approach helps you to those goals much quicker than anything else I have tried. I have done the stone and the BMI change at the same time, but I hate the word ‘obese’ which was why that was the mini target rather than the stone. The next target is the next stone bracket and I am keeping going but considering not weighing until I get to my birthday. I think that approach will mean it is more about the way of life than the numbers on the scale, making it a permanent change rather than being a diet that stops when you reach a certain weight. Any thoughts on that approach would be welcomed as I do find the advice on here to be sound and based on common sense. Walking today has been a couple of pitiful dashes out with the dog – it is so bitterly cold that no amount of wrapping up keeps me warm.