Hi Juliia, welcome to the 8-week line and after. Keep letting us know how you are doing.

Hi Hashimoto. *waves*. Thanks 😃 When I was away it seemed like everything was served with dumplings or bread or both (at least where I could afford!). . I normally eat local food on holiday, so it was unusual for me to go to TGI Fridays – but the steak was good (and did two meals 😊).

Good to see you back. You ok?

8 ounce eggs…they’d take some cracking!!!

Great news Bill. 😃

Day 3 everything going well, I’m doing 2 replacement meals and 1 X 400 calorie meal, should I still be taking my metformin? Thanks

Ha ha, you’re quite right SunnyB. I had another look and I have been getting my grams and ounces all muddled up! The theory was good but my application was rubbish!

Hi Janet1973

Sorry to contradict your protein weights referenced on your last posting, but 16 ounces is actually one pound – i.e. close to half a kilo – and therefore two large eggs could not possibly contain the equivalent in protein. My calculations show protein in two large eggs as around an ounce (26g). If it is 16g of protein, two large eggs would actually be in excess at approx. 26g. I haven’t looked at the site mentioned yet, but I’ll take a peek later, as I have heard in the past excess protein can hinder weight loss.

Hi shadow2, wow, 11st 10lbs down to 9st 9lbs is something to celebrate. Well done you and wishing you all the best on this life long path 🙂

Did you get a withdrawal?? As I don’t know if I get dips of low sugar but I shake and shake badly… I was told it’s either low sugar or more likely going Cold turkey . Apart from Pepsi we eat veg and meat.

I have to change… So I have to do what ever it takes . I am nearly 29 stone!!

Oh and also agree that Penny’s little glasses are a great idea. I just use bars and gates in my diary but I might have to channel the picasso a little bit!

Hi everyone
Eureka posted a link to another website;
ketogenic-diet-resource.com

This is a really useful website and might provide another piece of our puzzle of slow weight loss as it discusses how much protein you need for ketosis, and therefore, weight loss. I always thought protein should be kept high when dieting, but it turns out that too much protein can hinder weight loss. Maybe this explains why, when we know we are ‘being good’, we don’t lose much; perhaps we are getting just a little too much protein so ketosis doesn’t happen.

For instance, one of the possibilities for me at 5 foot 2 inches (shortass!) is that I only need around 16 ounces of protein per day. That’s just a bit more than two large eggs a day. I’m prepared to monitor my protein intake (along with everything else!) to see how it affects things for a few days. How did it all get so complicated!

I am just starting my 4th week and have lost 6lbs and about an inch off my waist. I am doing 5.2BSD so not reducing calories as much as most people but am thrilled with my progress. I am now 9st 9lbs which is the lowest I have been for about 40 years. Since I first started 5.2 diet in July 2014 (when diagnosed with pre diabetes) I have lost a total of 29lbs, unfortunately went back to bad eating habits end of last year and 4 weeks ago my blood sugars were in the late 6’s, tingling all over body and felt terrible. Now my fasting blood sugars are low 5’s or high 4’s which I am very relieved about it. I am now up to 10,000 steps a day and feel much better. I have found this diet much easier than I expected and know I need to keep to low carbs for rest of my life but am looking forward to a more relaxed meditteranean maintenance plan. I could not have done this without the help and support from these forums and the recipes posted by everyone. Keep going everyone, it can be done.

Hi innermonologue, why should we mind you posting? We are all in this together! Welcome on board 🙂

I think you will find the sweet tooth lessens considerably after a week or so of the diet. Mine hasn’t disappeared but I now find Pepsi max too sweet and prefer fizzy water with lemon in it. Never thought I’d hear myself saying that 😃

Hi purplepenguin I would recommend the CSX. Pedometer, I’ve had a few over the years and that one is my fa ourite. You can find details of it on the resources tab on this website, ive had mine for almost 2 years. It goes in my dressing gown pocket first thing ( it’s amazing how many steps you can do on a morning before dressing ) then into my jeans pocket for the rest of the day. Hope that helps 🙂

Justabloke? Just a bloke? Those stats are amazing. What a bloke! 🙂

Bill
So sorry to hear your devastating news, hope MRI scan is a bit more positive. My thoughts are with you, take care.

How are you doing carommartin? Just thought I’d check in to see how its going.

Thank you.

Just can’t wait for the book to arrive . I’m eat fairly good but I think I found my problem. I drink Pepsi max and ok no sugar but according to hospital it’s worse as apparently I’m drinking crack cocaine of the sugar world . I do like sweet stuff so hope there is something .

I really hope it works as 1 friend has lost a stone in 4 weeks!!!!! Other one is doing really well.

Hi. Julia, welcome to the over the 8 week line and over, what fantastic results you have had so far! Don’t forget to keep posting your progress!
🙂
Hi captainlynne, wow you did so fantastically on your trip, especially as the right food was a bit harder to source than here in Britain! You are a role model for us all 🙂

Lucia,
you should write for a living! Your enthusiasm shines through, there are some really poetic images and humour too!

I hadn’t noticed, but I’m in the middle of week 2. I am not far behind you in the weight and inches, but got there on 2000 cals/day despite all sorts of exercise. I’ve always said I’d be the last to die in a famine because a little food goes a long, long way with me! I have lost 2kg in the first week, plateau for a couple of days, now another half a kg down.
Good luck!

Hi all
I have just finished the 8 weeks🙌
Started out in mid December at 93 kilos. Less some days, more others… weight tends to fluctuate but that was the worst number I reached. Had a nasty 3 weeks with flu from 31st December so restarted the 8 weeks once over that. Now at 82.5 kilos and hoping to stay around here and lose another 10-12 if I can… something I’d lost hope was even possible for me last year. No diabetes yet (had blood test last year) but it is hugely prevalent in my family. I am now back to running and working on upping exercise levels to keep things moving in the right direction. Not to mention staying with this way of life permanently.
These forums have been inspirational as so many have said. We all sound like scratched records but I cannot express how much they have helped me when I have fallen off the wagon, as I have many times.
Best wishes for continued progress to everyone on here!
Julia 😊

Welcome! I wouldn’t get hung up on ingredients. Frozen veg often cheaper than fresh and no wastage. Ditto berries. Lidl and Aldi have many things at good prices. Main thing is to read these forums avidly as they will provide loads of support and there are additional recipes here too. Good luck and hope to be hearing great news from you soon. I have lost over 10 kg with the fast800 BSD and would have been more if I hadn’t had a few slips along the way. Have not been this weight for almost 10 years despite many attempts at losing weight.

Draw a line under the pizza and move on. Stay focused and get back on track. You will be seeing better results soon.

Thanks for your replies 🙂 It’s nice to know it’s not a problem unique to me, but demoralising all the same. I will keep on with it (despite the slice of pizza I had for lunch today!).

Dear Gabby67′ my husband and I are also on day 2, I don’t feel too bad but he is light headed and feeling lethargic, the way I see it is that these early days are not just about getting used to a low calorie low carb diet but after all the unhealthy food and alcohol we have previously put into our bodies(hubby and I) but also about detoxing as well which is bound to make you feel yuck! Stick with it and see what the next few days bring. Good luck.

Yesterday I was told I will die soon unless I change my life.

I have mobility issues and due to problems
In nhs I have gained weight over the years

I need to loose weight I friend is on a his diet and I’m trying it.. Have ordered my book but is there anything I need to get?? I already eat veg and lean meat

Yes MaryR I found the same dry, undercooked but even cooking them longer didn’t help. I am going to try the brownies so any tips appreciated – the recipe is too basic; I assume you have to chop the dates and cacao nibs although it says neither!

Hi sunnyb, i have had several pedometers over the years but my favourite is the one I. Bought a couple of years ago, it’s the CSX, you can find the details for it on the resources tab on this website. If I’m short on steps i walk to the corner shop and back -2500 steps. Sue1234 I f. I don’t want anything from the shop i just walk past the shop and loop back by another side road. No one could tell i was walking for the sake of walking – and if they did? Well, I’m walking for my health, that’s a good enough purpose for me. Watching the steps accumulate is a buzz as you get close or overtake your daily target.The CSX also shows the number of steps you do in a week 🙂

I didn’t think much to these either, though I’ve only tried them once and was not inspired to try and modify it. The mix was very dry, even with adding extra liquid, and the result pale and uninviting; the cooking temp and time seemed out as well. I have to say that I think the chocolate brownies are a much better bet, and are my go-to emergency treat when necessary, a batch always in the freezer in small bites , 100 cals each. It did take 4 attempts to perfect the technique though- I’ll post it if anyone’s interested.
( I think there was some discussion about the courgette muffins in an earlier thread- voicing similar opinions!)

I am just over two weeks into the BSD and have lost half a stone and 3 inches – yes inches! – off my waist. I am generally, genuinely enjoying the food using recipes from the book. BUT the courgette and pumpkin seed muffins have to be one of the most disgusting things I have ever tasted!! I do bake and have heard of cakes made with courgette, like carrot cake, but I have no idea what these were meant to be. Needless to say they have ended up in the bin. I wouldn’t mind but they were not cheap to make, coconut flour is not cheap and there were four eggs in this recipe. I am actually finding the whole diet quite expensive but am persevering as I know it will be worth it. My advice would be don’t bother with these muffins, they are not worth it and you don’t need the calories!

Thanks for the tips, Cherianne! I hadn’t thought of trying chilled herbal teas before so I might give that a shot, and the soda stream idea is great. I’m going to ask some of my local friends if they have one I could borrow 🙂

Sue1234, have you tried exercising with a friend or family member? I am a runner, but have terrible motivation – it really helps to arrange to meet someone because it makes me get out of the door, chatting to someone else is so much more interesting than running by myself, and my friends and I motivate each other to keep going too. There are also loads of walking groups around that you could join. Good luck finding a trick that works for you to get you exercising regularly – it’s really worth it.

That’s brilliant news Bill. 🙂

Hi Lucia. I am really not an expert and only in second week. Someone who loves her food and have managed to loose 3kilos so far in 8 days. Most days I go over my allowance, but I exercise and walk a lot. Just wondering if you are having enough fat! Only questioning it as your lunch and evening meal seem to be just veg and salad and meat, where is the fat. Are you recording what you are eating, it’s such an eye opener! Some fruits and veg are very high in carbs. I have under 40 carbs a day and usually this means sugars are very low too, under 20. I have always had a sweet tooth and struggle with not eating daily chocolate, this week better than last and now have berries with sprinkling of seeds, for fat or nuts, all weighed and that seems to work, I noticed a lot of natural yoghurts still have a lot of carbs, I have found a sheep milk yoghurt, so much lower in carbs, but fats and protein higher. You have done a great job, I have read your blog up until now, amazing steps. Just think what you are now putting into your body, great stuff. Keep going but check your labels and record your meals, maybe too low in calories! That won’t help, how many calories do you have a day? Probably a blip, but keep positive, get moving and check what you are eating. Don’t give up if I can do it so can you! 😀

Hi guys
Happy to say that my readings seem to be stabilising now.
Last few days fasting has been 6.9 to 7.1, pre meal 4.6 to 5.2 and around 6 an hour after food.
Just got my HbA1c results back from the blood test taken 4 weeks into the diet.
HbA1c 46mmol/mom down from 51
Cholesterol 4.3 down from 4.9
Weight 95kg down from 105
Kidneys 0.6gmol down from 1.7
eGFR up from 78.2 to 83.1 (higher is better)
So all in all a pretty pleasing set of results and all the motivation I need going forward.

Get your backside out of the sulking chair miss!
All that’s happening is your body hasn’t reacted as quickly than most to the low carbon assault that you’re putting it through.
You know you’re doing things right, keep glugging the water and weigh again in 3 days.
I have a feeling that you will be one of those that, when the weight loss hits, it will hit hard and fast.
People have reported losing 5 lb in a day, you may well be one of those.

Today my resting reading was way down. Surprised I did not keel over. It’s just all over the place, will track for another week or so and see if things settle down.

Hi lucia you are doing brilliantly, don’t despair, we women can have strange increases in weight at times :(. You will probably find you are minus a few pounds in a day or two 🙂

If you would like to walk a dog you could try http://www.borrow my doggy.Com. we have found some lovely walkers for our pooch. The dog owner pays the site and you are matched with dogs in your area.

Hi, so into the bathroom I went, no it’s okay to read on, nothing unpleasant , except for me.
Have I lost four or five stone since Saturday? Nope, I have put 1/4 on !!!!!???!!! 😮
Now I can do two things.
A. Stuff my face with chocolate, to comfort myself with the shame of it all. All that effort OMG.
B. It is only a tiny amount, but look back at my blogs , I have self taught some huge lessons.
So, I went into the kitchen ( after getting washed and dressed – no streaking here) and had an apple with one large tablespoon blob of full fat Greek yoghurt.
I have just finished lunch, pork and salad. Two slices of lean roast pork, 75 Grams, one celery stick, one spring onion, and three big leaves of iceberg lettuce.
Tonight it will be chicken or fish with sprouts and broccoli.
I am happy that , this is all I want to eat. I am not starving, and this is big lesson in itself. I am saving £5 each week doing this myself ( not going to ww or sw. )
I am not perfect, I did mutter a few naughty words, but I am not typing them here, that was to my scales.
So onwards and upwards as they say.
How did you get over your bad times? Were you able to cope, or did you do more damage?
Don’t get me wrong, if a large bar of fruit and nut had of walked into the bathroom at that point, maybe the outcome would be different. But all that stuff is two miles away from my home, at the supermarket.
Stay positive, stay together, and we will all get through this.
Love Lucia xxx
Just going for a sulk now …..

Hi SOS

Fatsecret does have a facility to record and track progress, but you have to become a member to use that facility. It is free of charge, but it’s one more site sending emails etc. As you say, there is variation of info from site to site and this one is no exception. Think it is best to find a calorie/carb calculator you feel comfortable using and stick to it as you have. At least that way, the values are consistent.

Hi penny, I want to wish you a lovely trip to India. I haven’t been on the forums for a few days courtesy of a nasty viral infection so don’t know what the troll attacks were but want you to know you are a very valued member of these forums and your contributions are much appreciated x:)
Judith

I want to wish all the new BSDers a hearty welcome, I’ve been ‘off the radar’ for a few days and will need some time to catch up with you all 🙂

Bill, I’m so very, very sorry to hear the bad news about your daughter. As a mother I can only imagine what you and your wife are going through and my thoughts, love and prayers are with you all. As cherrieanne has said you have inspired a lot of love and friendship around the world in a short time as well as inspiring us all to reach our personal goals. X

Hi Lachlan
I can understand that this is quite distressing for you. I’d be pretty upset with a reading like that too.
How long are you fasting for overnight, and what are your blood sugar levels doing during the day? It might be an idea to continue to skip the fasting tests but test two hours after a meal. Choose a different meal time each day to test after. This will give you a better idea of how your body is dealing with the food you are eating.
I think if these levels are reasonable, then continue to believe in the theory you posted above and just wait out this period of change. If they are also outrageous then you would need further advice from your GP. Just a random thought, as I have no clue about your age, but given that you are newly diagnosed could it be possible that you are a later onset type one and not type two? No need to disclose personal info, but if all your blood sugar levels are raised despite sticking to low carb. and you are in the 30-50 age group it might be worth checking.
Do the random tests over the next few days and see how you go, it might help you get to the bottom of this.

A bit glum at the moment about morning/fasting BG levels. Interesting to read others experiences in this thread.
When I (Steve) started the diet my morning BG dropped to 3.9, in the first week, from my old usual 6 – 6.5, which did surprise me a lot. Settled at about 4.5 after a couple of weeks, which I counted a success at the time.
Now Ei is not diabetic, according to the doc, just wants to lose weight, and hers were anywhere between 5.0 – 5.7. So the “normal” one had a higher/fasting BG than the diabetic!
Then in week 7, suddenly, I get 6.0 one morning. I had tried to re-introduced a bit of wine to my diet, and it had slipped over the “small glass with dinner” threshold sometimes. Was this the reason? Unfortunately, diet-wise, we have been on holiday for week 8, but stayed on track with food. Kept wine to just one glass a day. Came back to a 6.7 reading!
After 8 weeks diet I am now as thin as a racing snake, but with morning/fasting BG levels similar to before I started.
Lost my way a bit.

What puzzles me about the recipes in the book is that many of them are not particularly low calorie. It says earlier in the book that the calorie count is per portion I believe. Turkey burgers are 460 even before you put anything with them!

The scales say 1lb less to day, but I’m not cheering yet – let’s see what the result is at the end of this week. Hopefully it’s going to continue to drop and I can report a couple of pounds loss for this week, but we’ll wait and see. Not counting chicken yet. Thanks for the advice and support though Janet1973.

Hi Catgirl

I’ve been using the forum since starting the BSD and have found it invaluable – especially when things get tough and you need a little support. There’s lots of useful tips and info on here, so make good use of the threads and if in doubt ask the question, someone will respond.

Welcome to the BSD losers! Good luck to you both.

It is tough eating out while you are on the 8wk diet. I had two dinners out last w/e. I managed to save most of my calorie allowance during the day, for the dinner in the evening, limited myself to one small glass of red per meal (and a whisky one evening when I got home) also chose things not being served with heaps of carbs. I did my best to work out the calories each day and I know I was over, but not too seriously – approx 200clas over the two days. Anyway, net result was no weight lose …. but no gain either.

If you make your menu choices carefully and try to off set a bit by saving calories before each event, I’m sure your weight will not suffer too badly from the dinners out. Good luck with it, I’m sure you can make it work.

Really like the idea of drawing cups/glasses to cross off through the day, pmshrink – excellent idea! This would certainly help me to make sure my fluids are up, as it’s easy to forget if you’ve had three or four cups. Shall definitely be adopting this method – thanks!