Hi jeff, nice to hear you on the forums again! I take the same line as you. I will eat kale but I adore brocolli, asparagus, spinach and so many more veg that I prefer to kale.
As i am eating what I have always eaten minus gluten free bread (£3 a loaf) rice and potatoes I am finding my food shop is actually cheaper 🙂

When your clothes loosen you know you’re losing weight 🙂

Hi all, I’ve really enjoyed reading your posts and thought I would throw my tuppence worth in! Hubby and myself started the 800 almost four weeks ago. I have significantly more weight to lose than him. In fact despite a foots’ height difference when we started off I was two pounds heavier than him and as of this morning I still am! I started off at 13st 5lbs and I’m 5ft tall. He has now lost 16lbs and I have lost 15lbs. When he loses another 2lbs that will be 10% of his body weight and he will move to the 5:2. We both lost significant amounts of weight on the Dukan high protein diet and kept it off very well with the 5:2 until we just went wild and the weight came back again over about 16 months. The 5:2 is a great plan but you must create a calorie deficit to get the full benefit. Now here’s the thing, we don’t really monitor carbs. We eat a well balanced and wholesome range of foods, but although I’m great at putting low carb recipes made of anything but flour together, I can’t be bothered! If I have to seek out ingredients that can only be found in Diagon Alley I’m going to get bored and go off the rails! The secret to losing weight on this diet, and this is just what I believe, is to get a bit of exercise as well. Walking, try and do your 10000 steps, or swimming. That way your muscle tissue will eat up everything you take in, and you will lose weight. I’m not diabetic but I do have polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), it plays havoc with the hormones. Also I find it difficult to “release hostages”, this was the term we used on Dukan for constipation – sorry but it is a dieting issue. Here’s what today’s menu looks like: B – one slice of Burgen soya linseed bread toasted, laughing Cow lite triangle, tea with 50ml milk. Coffee at 11am, 50ml milk. L – 100g tesco Greek style yogurt, 50g strawberries, 25g blueberries. D – Scrambled egg with cheese. I keep enough calories for a 40 cal Belgian hot chocolate, and I can still have a cup of tea later if I feel like it. I usually have calories left over. At the weekend I abandon the tea, hot chocolate etc and have 175ml of vino. Thanks for reading this and good luck!

Happy Day!

So brilliant to have this great result Bill.

We are all dancing & raising glasses to you (with water or ‘laughing gravy”)

: )

Lynne, in response to your post, I just want to say: right-on sister! Power to the people! I wish for the same sort of revolution here in the U.S.!

Judith, that’s not all of it with my son unfortunately. There’s so much going on in that family unit, but it’s not for this forum. Unfortunately it means his stress levels are through the roof, which doesn’t help. I’ve become very good at keeping my mouth shut. (Yes, Bill – I can do that if I have to 😱)

I help out with the twins, having them stay with me in some school holidays. But they live in Manchester and I’m in County Durham. When they come after Easter I’ll try feeding them the Mediterranean way. They don’t eat many sweets, but eat cereal every day, sandwiches at school, and lots of pasta, potatoes and rice.

I remember them having a kiddy meal from Subway – you should have seen them, nearly running round the walls as high as kites. Not repeated.

Not much I can do to influence their eating at home, but at my house ….. 😃

No it’s not unobtainable Lynne
We are the people and we have the ultimate power over the lot of them – voting with our feet.
A sharp loss of profits will quickly realign their thinking.
Someone should have told Mr Osbourne about this, to send a £3.60 diet book to every diabetic in the country would cost far far less than the price of drugs and treatment.

Hi Everyone:

I’ve been off posting in the forums for a week or so, but have been following everyone’s progress. I’ve been doing pretty well, not perfect, but much progress. I’ll have a weigh in on saturday and see what the scale says; I know something is happening as my clothes are loosening up!
The forums have been so helpful with information, experience, and recipes. One invaluable thing I have learned in the last week is to ‘keep it simple’. That is to prepare simple, easy meals, with the idea that as I begin to feel better and have more energy I’ll want to get in the kitchen more. Other ideas I’ve decided to incorporate are to eat only foods (on the plan) that I really like, for instance I love asparagus, but not kale so much, even though it’s supposed to be a super-food (and I’ve tried), so I will have asparagus. I have seen people write about this on the forums and have decided to adopt for myself the notion that since I will not be spending money on junk food, take out, and probably doing less restaurant eating, I will by premium ingredients. I reckon that I will still come out far ahead cost-wise. Fortunately, we have a store here called Whole Foods (some call it ‘Whole Paycheck’) that can be expensive but has excellent quality foods.

I am also very happy to say that when I got home from work last night my book had arrived! This is five days early! I am so happy to have it in hand!

best wishes to all for continued success
Jeff

Rico isn’t it lovely to drop a number in the stones column! But you have already seen that happen 3 times! Amazing! Way to go 🙂

End of week 5 – lost 5kgs on the button (a shade over 11lb in old money). That’s more than 5% of my total bodyweight! I’m sleeping well, not feeling particularly hungry, and I’ve somehow got out of the habit of mindless munching while I’m sitting at my desk. Can’t say that I’ve followed 800 calories a day slavishly, and there has been the odd time when I’ve had a glass of wine, or a roast potato, or a piece of granary toast – but my energy levels are insane! I’ve got the bike out of the shed for the first time since before Christmas, did a good 15 mile trip last weekend, and I’ve been out jogging every other lunchtime. My downfall on previous diets has always been cheese – but on the BSD it’s a positive thing to include a bit of cheese so that keeps me happy.

On a related note – have you noticed how many carb-heavy takeaway foods there are? It’s a sea of beige food out there! Pies, pasta salads, sausage rolls, chips, sandwiches, crisps – it’s really difficult to find a decent bought lunch, unless you go to Eat or Pret. Another good reason to have home-made stuff. Today I had a home-made vegetable laksa (without noodles) and it was delish.

Do the cheesecakey thing Lynne, they should love them 😀
Relax ? I’ll do that when I pop off, this weekend is a celebration 🙂

A friend of mine told me a few years ago about her son’s then partner – a GP – who said diabetics would bankrupt the NHS. My response was to put me in a locked room with him for a while and I’d sort him out!

With the post code lottery re testing supplies there is a conspiracy theory in some quarters that ‘they’ are trying to get rid of us to save money.

Well, their wish is being granted – just not how they thought. 😃

Just think – smaller profits for drug companies, the huge slimming organisations losing members (and profits), and all those manufacturers of ‘slimming’ low-fat foods and diet meals also losing profits. Imagine – food shops full of healthy food, full fat with taste rather than sugar. 😃 Cheaper to buy healthy rather than junk food! And bring back cooking lessons in schools, cooking from scratch rather than microwaving ready meals. Or am I looking for an unobtainable Utopia?

Bruno I am so glad you posted that – a few people have reached a plateau so your experience will encourage them.
Well done on your fabulous weight loss and enjoy the rest of your journey 🙂

Lynne it must be so hard for you to see your son damaging himself like that. I truly hope he will see the sense of this diet when he sees the changes in you.
The man at the coffee morning!!! He sounds much worse than my friends partner – never thought I would hear myself say that!
My asthma nurse said that it was difficult to help patients who don’t want to help themselves as well – we were talking about diabetes because of the book.
You never know, we may meet in real life one day, and boy, wouldn’t I love to be waving a placard in an audience with Doc Mosley there along with you and Bill and any others.
🙂

😃.

Now, I wonder if I can get the twins to try it? he he.

I can just picture you with a great big smile on your face. I am so happy for you all 😃 Now relax and have a great weekend. x

Hi everyone,
Good to hear how everyone’s finding the diet. Thats me at the end of week 6.
So far I’ve lost just over 2 stone (29lbs). Last Friday when I weighed myself I’d only lost 1lb, so was amazed that I lost 5lb this week👍.
For the last 7 days I’ve also cut out caffeine. Started drinking Caffine free Green Tea which was pretty vile for the first few days but now I’m beginning to like it. Tried the curry recipe with cauliflower rice last night, it was amazing.

Tell me about it.
There was I sitting feeling fairly smug with the weight and the sugar readings reducing day by day.
Then one morning – BANG a 9.9 fasting reading. It took almost a fortnight for them to stabilise again although I do get the odd high result still but I know it’s just stored sugar coming out so I stopped worrying about it.

Way to go Bill, the best news ever!

Hopefully more people will go on pre-emptive strikes against diabetes.

I do worry for my granddaughters, as both myself and their father are diabetic. They don’t eat many sweets, which is good. When they stay with me, guess what they’ll be
Eating as much as possible. He he. *looks furtively over shoulder to make sure they’re not listening*

Not much, I know. But a start.

At the minute I’m sort of alternating between laughing and crying.
When my wife rang I rushed out into the showroom from the office to take the call and got some very strange looks from the customers when I sort of screamed “Oh Nancy thank God”
This weekend is going to be a very happy one in our house 😀

Glad you stuck that on the end Lynne
To me the foremost question in their minds would be, Is it ethical to deprive the drug and weight loss companies of the blood money they’ve been rolling in for years on the back of this horrible disease

Bill, just caught up with the posts – oh I can’t tell you how happy I feel for you and your family – I’m crying myself. What a RELIEF!!! What a Friday this is turning out to be!!
I think tonight calls for big fat juicy steaks as well as a drink!!!

The shock and stress of it all will really be hitting home now that you can heave a massive sigh of relief as you have had to sit on this and act normal for your grandchildren and the whole family during so many days – so no wonder you can’t stop crying.

This day just can’t get any better! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
In fact Bill, I’m going to indulge in a little glass of something with you and toast your family when I drink. 🙂 🙂 🙂 :)Cherrieanne is going to be so pleased when Australia wakes up! 🙂

Many thanks Bill1954. it just came as bit of a shock.

YIPPPEEE!!!!! *does very happy dance*

Bill, I am so delighted for you, your daughter and the family. Hopefully it won’t be long before she is fully recovered.

I’ll raise a bottle of fizzy water (well chilled) to you all 😃

Have a great weekend.

Well if you go on a Southern bender…. have to say it is quite understandable even if not wise. Our family are off to Toby Carvery tonight (best BSD place to eat if you avoid the pots and yorkies) and I’ll certainly be having a drink tonight (1 only 😉) to celebrate virtually with you guys. So so thrilled for you all.

So glad you enjoyed it Lynne God I can’t stop smiling today
It does take a lot of chewing because of the high dietary fibre content but they are really filling aren’t they ?

Don’t often eat at lunchtime now, but made an exception today.

Have to wait in for new printer to be delivered (old one decided to print in invisible ink – clever, but not helpful) so decided to try out this recipe

Thanks Bill, used 1tbsp coconut flour as you suggested and removed them from tin straight away. Used a non-stick tin and lightly oiled it – but it still stuck 😳. Smelt wonderful. Oh, it still does 😃 – must remember to use extractor hood!

Anyway, decided to eat it with 25g each of Brie and pâté. And I couldn’t finish it. Still have half the bread and the pâté left – must incorporate it into meal later!

Be interesting to see BG results in a few hours 😃

Oh – it really is delicious 😃

pre-emptive strike against developing diabetes
I LOVE that expression
If we can get the word out about this lifestyle there will be many many more folk administering pre emptive strikes.
Go for it OP
See you on the other side of the finishing line.

Thanks hashimoto
Yes I am very pleased, just have another 6or 7stone to go but I really think I can do it on this new way of eating. This forum really helps and I love reading the messages of support and encouragement on here, just wish I had found the BSD earlier! I have even started using the gym!!!

I will, Bill.

Sometimes when I’ve mentioned the BSD, Dr Mosely and Prof Taylor to medics I’ve seen their eyes glaze over and one actually shrugged as if to say ‘so what, no idea who that is!’ Obviously don’t keep up!

I’m with you – you, Judith and me (and everyone else of here who could and wished to), not only in the audience but with placards and/or leaflets outside, making our voices heard.

Naysayers may say our evidence is only anecdotal, not scientifically proved, but those of us keeping records can show those as evidence and our results speak for themselves.

The ‘experts’ would probably say they need a long-term randomised clinical trial, with a large number of participants to see if it is beneficial and not harmful. I think my response would be to ask if it is ethical to take that line as so many diabetics are already following the BSD and showing great improvement in their blood results, as well as weight loss and other benefits. Would it be ethical to deprive other diabetics of the opportunity to improve not only their diabetes, but also their general health? Oh, I forgot – the drug companies and their profits😱.

*off to put soapbox away*

Dunno about champagne Julia
BUT
There is this litre bottle of Southern Comfort I brought back from holiday 2 years ago and never opened.
I think it may well be time to check it hasn’t went off 😉
Sod it, I just cant help doing this 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

CRIKEY, BILL! – I cried when I read that! So happy for you and your family! Wishing your daughter a speedy recovery from her lung infection.

Have a great weekend!

Susie x

Isn’t it amazing Lozza
I well remember the suffering I went through years ago trying the WW diets. I was always hungry and I could well have done without the guilty feelings I experienced when I didn’t show a weight loss in any given week.
This diet is so much better, you can do it yourself, it’s easy. and by God it works.

Hi Bill
That’s fantastic news so so pleased for you all.X

Hey and don’t go blowing the diet too much after all the good work – although I think champagne is in order at the very least 😂

Bill I don’t think I have ever been so over the moon to hear such news from someone I’ve never even met👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍

WOW!! HOW FANTASTIC!!

So glad that it’s such brilliant news Bill. The whole family must be ecstatic!
Hope she will soon be fully recovered and back in good health soon.
You guys have a wonder weekend!

Love that phrase, Bill – Pioneer to Veteran 😊

Looking forward to you joining us veterans on here – must put in a special order for rocking chairs now. 😃

Thanks Bill1954.
I am finding this the easiest diet I have ever been on, don’t feel hungry at all. Before the diet I used to have 2 slices of toast for breakfast and 2 slices of bread for lunch and some form of potato(mash, boiled, chips) for dinner. Haven’t missed them at all.
I also used to drink red wine. I’ve cut this out and drink Brandy instead, which I did last weekend and still lost weight!

NOT CANCER
Just confirmed by the consultant, the shadow is an infection, that’s why her blood isn’t clotting.
She has now been referred to an ENT specialist for further tests.
Thank you all so much for all the love, support, and messages of kindness.
If EVER the power of prayer could acheive anything, this is it.
I can’t stop crying, I thank God it’s for good reasons.

I will be recommending this Digestic by Mimonis also as it is an herbal supplement that greatly helps me in my constipation problem. It just take few days of taking this supplement and I was totally relieved from constipation. I am hoping that I can help a lot here who is suffering from this problem.

Hi Judith.

From one Tigger to another (that was my user name on another forum!), thanks for your kind words – they brought a tear to my eye. I feel you are my friend too. Who knows, we may meet in real life one day 😃

Because I only moved here last June the nurse doesn’t really know me, but she too was amazed when I walked in after only a month on the BSD. Let’s see her reaction in April when I’ve had my HbA1c 😃. Glad your doctor has your data sheets in your records now.

Unfortunately there are those who ‘always know best’ or just follow the official mantra without thinking if it is right for them.

My son, diagnosed type 2 after me and with higher reading at diagnosis than mine have ever been, still believes in eating carbs although he has cut down on alcohol. He eats Oats so Simple (2 sachets) for breakfast, often takes sandwiches for lunch, evening meal usually has potatoes, pasta etc. The weekly takeaway (usually Indian) he has Pilau rice. His late evening snack is cereal or a banana. And he tells me I’m not really diabetic, I’m just playing at it. He has already had a couple of laser treatments for retinopathy. He is on Metformin and another tablet, and a wake up call came a while ago when his levels were out of control and the GP mentioned him going on to insulin. He’s terrified of needles, so made some changes.

He’s not seen me since last October and doesn’t know I’m doing this so I wonder what his reaction will be. Oh, I do have a spare copy of the book in case he’s interested 😃

I did know a lady who is diabetic and has COPD. She has sugar in her tea, eats biscuits, and still smokes although she is on oxygen. No idea what she eats at home, but I can imagine from what I’ve seen her eat. And I’ve known others who used to eat the dessert made without sugar, but when seconds were called would set the regular one, and always ate the cakes for birthdays. One diabetic man came to coffee morning and had toast, bought the cakes left over at the end, sat and ate them, then had his lunch – regularly sat there and wet himself! Like you say, it must be so frustrating for the medics. Indeed my nurse has said it is difficult.

Hey AKB 382
try not to worry about those fasting figures, They are still below 7
I did message the team about this as I was having the same problem, this is their reply,
Hi Bill

Chances are it is nothing to worry about. Your body is still adjusting and it’s not unusual to see a little fluctuation.

Also, if it’s first thing in the morning, your levels will naturally rise slightly during the night.

Keep an eye on it and I’m sure it’ll get on track again. If you’re at all unsure, consult with your doctor.

Hope that helps

Oh the thread you were looking for

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/rising-fasting-blood-glucose-levels/

Thanks. I feel like I have made some good progress. 22 stone when I started and down to under the 19 mark now. This after flailing about November till mid January with days & nights off for Christmas, New Year etc. I also had a setback with a chest infection, feeling sorry for myself and dishonesty/cheating on cals. I have upped my walking etc. from minimal dog pees to on a good day doing 5 miles all in – weather dependant/ work requirements being limiting factors.

So today I ate/will eat;

B -2 eggs, a tomato, a chilli pepper, few little mushrooms, leftover broccoli + a tsp of Tabasco omelette (same everyday during 800 cal phase)
L – Polish ham slices + sauerkraut + a tomato + Miso soup
D – chicken breast & some salady bits with a mustard & Balsamic dressing. 750ish Cals. I will play about at tea time to finalise what exactly I will use as salad. I have cooked broccoli, fine beans, cauliflower & ratatouille in the fridge and I like to throw in 30 to 50 g’s of chickpeas or similar if cals allow

I walk to & from work – lunch time 20 minutes walk with dog and ordinary comfort breaks for my Border Terrier in the park.,

Lynne keep on causing trouble
I don’t understand why, when the original research was conducted by someone as eminent as Professor Taylor, more of the profession aren’t taking an interest
I’m really lucky in that I have both nurses and doctors at my surgery who do take an interest, yes I was given the usual meds at first, but they do seem open to this new lifestyle and I’ll make goddam sure they hear about my future progress.
If Doc Mosely comes back to the UK us 3 and others from this forum should really make an effort to be in the audience and let people know what is really happening now, every day, in real life. Not some half assed theory but genuine experiences.

all, I can’t the thread entitled ‘rising fasting blood sugars’. anyone got a link?
Cheers

Hi all, I think this is happening to me!

Just to give you a bit of background. Diagnosed in 2010, medication Metformin 850mgx3, pioglitazone 30mg x 1 and 1.2 units of Victoza.

My fasting BG levels have hovered around 8.5 mmol/L for the last year or so. (Last hb1ac 15th Jan was 9.7). Height 6.1’ weight 102kg

I started Newcastle diet plan on 25th Jan and on 30th Jan my fasting BG levels showed an unbelieve 4.4 mmol/L, so unbelieve I purchased another monitor and it also confirmed these levels. I stopped taking the pioglitazone and still the fasting BG levels hadn’t moved much beyond this figure. Which of course was most welcome!. On 15th March I weighed 88.3kg.

Came off the Victoza about three weeks ago, now just on Metformin 850mgx3.

Generally my fasting BG levels are between 4.7 – 5.4, However on Tuesday this week my Fasting BG level was 6.8, 6.5, 6.1 and 6.5 this morning, You can imagine this was extremely disheartening to say the least.

Hey Bre
congratulations on progressing from Pioneer to Veteran (I like that expression 🙂 )
Your results are brilliant and add to this thread being the most inspirational on the forum.
I will be joining you guys next week, although probably with a lower weight loss (20lb ATM )
I can just picture us lot sitting in our rocking chairs saying things like “back in our day” and “remember when we were diabetic”
Looking forward to seeing your continued progress

Bill

Hi Julia, a few weeks ago I turned down an easter egg with a longing look after it – now I genuinely could not eat one. Sometimes the sugary smells in chocolatey/cakey aisles actually nauseate me now. My son looked at me a bit oddly the first time I said ‘the smell of sugar in here is a bit nauseating’. ‘how can you smell sugar?’ I don’t know, I never used to, but I can now and I don’t like it.
So, Julia, hang on the same may happen to you 🙂

Hi Mosleyfan it’s strange that you haven’t lost anything in the first 2 weeks.
I know you have experience with dieting so you know yourself that on just 800 calories you HAVE to lose weight.
Like Judith said check your carbs again and make sure you are drinking the correct amount of fluids and getting enough fat in your daily diet
Hopefully this is just a slow body readjustment and this time next week you will be happier.

Bill, my friend (his partner) is in renal failure (not diabetic in origin) so he has seen the renal wards full of diabetic patients who are blind amputees on dialysis. You would think it would have scared the hell out of him. His answer is always he knows what is best for him…..drrrrr
I think you are right Bill, he is beyond help. How do the medical profession put up with it, it must be so frustrating for them.
Car crash waiting to happen – sums him up.