Thanks for that Switzerland. I stopped off on the way home from the beach today and bought the last one on the stall. I was hoping someone would tell me what to do. Shows you can rely on the forums π always someone willing to help.
I’ll have a go at baking it tomorrow. I’m looking forward to it.
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Yeh FiFip, I was so skinny my nickname was ‘rake’ as in skinny as a rake. Bet you ran about all day like me when you were a kid? Jumping becks, swinging on tarzies, climbing trees ( I even had a ‘reading’ tree in the woods), running up hills, building dens etc etc
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Hi Janet, there was an episode on ‘Trust me I’m a Doctor’ where an experiment with sweeteners and stevia showed saccharin types of sweeteners caused all sorts of unexpected problems in the body – even raising cholesterol. Partly why I am so concerned now I have discovered saccharin in several toothpastes!!!
Try the liquorice herbal tea – really sweet – but no sugars or sweeteners! I can’t believe how sweet it is. It tastes just like the ha’penny liquorice root ‘sticks’ I bought as a nipper – you know the ones you could chew all day and the still tasted sweet?
Like Cherrianne, I am having to put one teabag in a large teapot as it is far too sweet for me one bag to a mug. You could have it hot or cold. You could make it strong, chill it and add sparkling water for a fizzy drink, and no damage done!
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Oh yes, my mum used to make lovely dumplings like this, golden syrup on one end, jam on the other & I was such a skinny kid!!
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Wow, cherrianne, I didn’t realise your mum was doing it too! Amazing results for her too! Fantastic! π
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I love Pepsi max – as much as I love coffee. I managed to stay off the PM for about five weeks but it has slowly crept back in. I think I have been in denial about how it affects me but last week I only lost half a pound and had quite a lot of PM. I would have expected better weight loss as I know I was burning fat well once I got past the ‘Easter Sunday effect’. PM was on today’s shopping list but I’m going to swerve it and see if it helps at all. Again wishful thinking, but I just can’t get my head around why something with zero calories would be so bad for me?
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Hi Ambi, welcome to the forums. You really have had a rough start but you should be proud of yourself for sticking with it. π
As Hashimoto has said the liquorice tea does help. So do some of the fruit teas like spiced apple, or apple and ginger. They are very soothing to a hungry tummy when drunk warm, and nice cold too. A slice of lemon in hot water helps with sugar cravings. It’s best to avoid sweeteners altogether if you can, because they do trigger the same reaction as sugar and you won’t lose the addiction. Maybe try fizzy water with a slice of lemon, orange or lime? I cut my citrus up into thin slices and keep them in a zip lock bag in the fridge ready to add to hot or cold water. If you want tea or coffee with milk make sure you add it to your count.
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posted by Venusflytrap on What carb level should we be aiming for?
on 3 Apr 2016 at 09:53 in Fast 800Our protein levels are coming in higher than 60. We eat quite small portions of protein, usually up to 100g of meat and fish, with 2 eggs, 10/20/30g of cheese (depending on how hard it is) and between 50-75g of yogurt. So we are often halving supermarket portions of gammon, steak etc. When I looked at the amount of actual grams of protein in my protein portions, it came in higher than 60, nearer to 70g and I didn’t actually add in the protein within the other things I ate, like veg or caraway seeds. So I think the amount will be coming in nearer to 80g. I don’t think you need to worry about this as even at its lowest, we will still be well above nutritionally recommended amounts. You do need enough protein to stop you feeling hungry. We are only using a couple of teaspoons of oil per day. I would like to increase this to about 4 teaspoons of olive oil, mostly taken cold, given the recent research. We are just avoiding sugar even in fruit, as the sugary ones are high in carbs too. When I am desperate for something sweet, I am now having a cup of coffee with milk and a saccharine tablet. Which seems to work. Hope this helps. But I am in my first week, so there are probably much more experienced people to advise you.
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Ok, in that case I won’t feel too bad about corrupting you!
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Hi Magpie, welcome. My Mum is a young 75 year old who now has heaps of energy, has only 0.3% to go on her HbA1c to be in the non diabetic range. She has lowered her cholesterol to the point of not needing statins. Her BP is great and she lost 8kg on the fast 800. She averages over 12,000 steps per day, often 15,000. Your parents could do it too, and once they see your success they’ll be motivated to have a go.
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Hi Ambi, the more carbs and sugars you had preBSD the harder the carb withdrawal hits but as you are finding it starts to disappear. Once the first two weeks are over (MM says they are the hardest) it all becomes so much easier.
People on here advice 50g of carbs a day or less. I have started googling foods I eat on Calorieking and making a list – I don’t have a smart phone so no app.Have you tried sparkling water? A sprig of mint and a slice of lime makes it feel luxurious. I bought some liquorice tea bags the other day ( cherrianne recommended them to someone missing sweeteners) and I can honestly say they taste VERY sweet – but no sweeteners or sugars! My friend across the road always says she needs a spoon on honey in herbal teas, I asked her to try the liquorice without and she was really surprised! Said her husband would like it too!!
Captainlynne has already lost 3 stones so your 5 and a half is doable.
Good luck and keep posting! π
PS we are all finding this ‘diet’ becomes a way of life so you shouldn’t find yourself yo-yoing on it π
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Hi vcolq, welcome to the forums!! You already know what to do so you don’t need me to tell you to kick the red wine and choccy habit for a while!!
We all wish you luck with starting the fast 800, it will make you much more energetic and healthy. Keep posting! π
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Perhaps it’s our past that’s made us strong!! Anyway as you say, onward and upward – or should that be downward as far as the scales are concerned?!!!
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Hi MerryMary, I agree about Lucia, her posts are a pure golden stream of consciousness narrative. I love em π
BTW Lucia, we have found your lost hour! Our clocks went back last night in South Australia, so we had it. I made the most of every minute lol. Will give it back at the end of our winter xxx -
121 signatures so far. Calling all new UK resident BSDers to sign our petition!
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Hi, I thought I would come out of the shadows and introduce myself too! I’ve been LCHF since Jan and have lost 17lbs so far. I am finding that my weight loss is slowing, or rather grinding to a ‘dark chocolate, red wine filled’ halt! Those old bad habits haven’t gone away π I have no issue with my blood sugar, but have been overweight all my adult life and want to finally get rid of it. Interestingly, I actually came across this way of eating due to a neurological condition I have and it was suggested this is a better diet for the brain. The weight loss was, initially, a happy by product, however, the more I have learned about the harm carbs do to our body, the more determined I am to lose the weight and make this way of eating permanent. Ha, I say determined… obviously this determination is wine and dark chocolate soluble!
Whilst I will continue to eat LCHF for the few days, I am looking to start the Fast 800 on Thursday 7th April. Wish me luck!
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Lucia, you are inspiring! Thank you. Go girl!
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Hi jandz, you were more than within your rights to refuse junk, even more so when you had specifically told people you were no longer eating sweets and crisps. Almost sounds like sabotage.
Keep some celery sticks on your desk!!
It is sad that with all the publicity about sugar and poor health that a bunch of adults would act so irresponsibly π
Good on you that you are remaining strong!! π
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PS magpiemag – you may be able to persuade you parents to try this diet when they see it working for you. That would be awesome!! 70’s isn’t old these days. My dad is 90 and doesn’t think of himself as old π
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Oh, wow, grandma48, so sad that so may of us have been down that road. Hey, but onward and upward to us strong women!! π
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Hi Lynne, I,m just wondering if the scenario was more that they noticed the weight loss, they couldn’t fail realy, but didn’t want to say anything in front of you. I wouldn’t mind betting it’s been discussed in private though.
They’re your kids and they love you, they have just seen you turn up having dropped a lot of weight. Knowing my kids, if they didnt kniw what was going on, they would be worried and probably wouldn’t question me for fear of worrying md to, they may even think you’e hiding an illness from them.
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Hi magpiemag, you sound so organized and motivated! This really will shift the weight and improve your health. I would recommend buying a pedometer – it really helps clock up the steps. If I am low I go up and down the stairs a few times., or wander up and down the garden. I’ve even been know to drive to a large supermarket in bad weather just because it is easy to clock up a lot of steps going up and down every aisle!!
Start making lots of soups for the freezer, they are a godsend on busy days. Don’t forget to add cheese of FF yoghurt to them – or plenty of olive oil. Try the Fage Total yoghurt (not the 0%), it’s yummy.
Looking forward to your successes and keep posting! π
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I am a serial dieter. Great while I’m dieting but soon go back to old habits once the ‘dieting’ stops. I am now in my 40s and heavier than I have ever been. As far as I know I am not diabetic or pre diabetic yet but my eating habits and being 5 1/2 stone over weight certainly can’t be doing me any good !
The first 3 days for me were terrible, migraines pretty much all day every day ( I am susceptible to migraine usually anyway but this was a bad spell). I did try to make sure I was drinking enough but couldn’t shake it off. (On the plus side had no inclination to get out of bed to raid the fridge)
Day 6 and I am feeling much better, haven’t been hungry at all and it looks like I have lost 6lb, happy with that!
I am struggling with cutting out sweeteners as find water hard to drink in big quantities so am turning to squash. Not sure if this is a problem?
Also a bit confused about carbs ‘permitted’ per day.
Anyway , despite hellish start I am now getting in to the swing of things, fingers crossed for continued good losses π
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……and me! 18 years free and no intention of going down that road again!
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Hello all! I’m so looking forward to this!
I’ve just bought the book having researched various ways of getting off the 40 year diet unmerrygoround which has resulted in yet more weight gain and a scary lack of motivation to do anything about it. I’m not diagnosed as diabetic but type 2 runs in the family. I’m 56 with a stressful, sedentary job and the weight is just piling on. My parents (one is T2) are on such a cocktail of medications which seem to rule their lives and I’m sure some of them are just dished out because they are old! Actually they are only in their 70s and I am determined that when I’m at that age I won’t think of myself as old.
The bottom line is I have a lot of weight to lose, am a diehard coach potato, am vegetarian and at risk of diabetes if I don’t do something about it now. I certainly don’t ever want to have to visit the doctor at the alarming rate my parents do! This approach appeals to me as it addresses the mental and physical sides of wellbeing and there’s lots of stuff for veggies. My freezer and cupboards are ready to go and Day 1 is tomorrow. I’m always happy to chat to people on the same journey as I think that helping each other is key. I’m hoping to be able to report some great success very soon π
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Thank you hashimoto, I’m pleased with the weight loss, better off than on.
I’m so pleased I’ve lost the sweet craving, my colleagues at work decided on Thursday they would set up a ‘tuck’ shop in the office, by Friday there was a large selection of crisps and chocolate available to buy. I have no way of avoiding walking past as they’ve placed it all right in front of the entrance to the kitchen area!
Then the woman who sits next to me walked in with share size bags of sweets and plonked a bag of peanut M&Ms on my desk…these used to be my favourites! But guess what…..I gave her them back and explained I no longer wanted them!
I think she was actually offended but I’d already told her not to bring any in when she mentioned it earlier in the week.
It was sad seeing colleagues getting excited at the thought of a tuck shop and what they wanted to be available to buy π
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Hi Jim, fantastic weight loss. Wow, so lucky you jumped in the car and got the only remaining book. Go You!!!
If you have managed so far with diet and exercise control it shouldn’t take long to reverse your type2 on this diet. I recommend you read all of Bill1954’s posts, His results are bordering on the miraculous!! π -
Hi jimnz, 6kg in 3 weeks is fabulous, that’s almost a stone in old money.
This works for your sugar levels. I was re assessed as pre diabetic after having blood tests taken just 4 weeks in.
I and others did experience sugar spikes around about week 4. They were explained as being caused by stored sugar being released from the organs and typically take a couple of weeks to sort themselves out.
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Michael Mosely was interviewed on Radio NZ about 4 weeks ago – one Saturday lunch time. Realizing that one of our local booksellers had the 8 week Blood Sugar Diet book in stock, I jumped in the car and into the city while the other radio listeners were thinking about lunch. Turned out it was the only copy in the shop.
Been working away for 3 weeks now and have managed to drop 6 kg. I think I have found a reasonably safe takeaway food from the local Chinese shop – Egg Foo Yong. I have tried it and find it remarkably filling
We have a fresh salad chain in the city that sells pita bread wraps. Now that I am on the programme, if we want a quick lunch, I get the salad with chicken, served in a waxed cardboard box instead of the pita wrap.
I am 76 and a retired teacher of high school mathematics. I was diagnosed Type 2 Diabetes about 4 years ago. So far, it has been only diet and exercise controlled – no medication. My plan is to reverse the diabetes.
Jim
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Well done for getting back on the diet lostgirl – that’s interesting re. the pepsi max – I still have some artificially sweetened things to use up but I will change to fizzy water instead as soon as they’re used up.
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Ha ha janet. I was thinking of breaking a bar up into sqares and freezing allbut one square. They last longer in the mouth when frozen too π
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X3 to have Lucia made an author π She posts some of the most entertaining stuff about, a bit like a favourite newspaper column, the one you turn to first.
Merrymary, the thread you need is the “Over the 8 week line and beyond” in the fast 800 forum.
I just hit the 2 stone loss mark on week 9 and their are folks in there who make that look like a drop in the ocean.
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Hi spirit there seem to be more people who have suffered that way on these forums than I would have expected. Makes you wonder. Especially as the.long term stresss of living in fear damages the immune system and can cause the kind of illnesses that can lead to excess weight.
Like you I can spot troubling traits quite quickly now. I’m 63 and not likely to dip my toe in that particular water again either…
We should pat ourselves on the back for being survivors who have taken control of our own lives again π
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Don’t let me entice you over to the dark side! But then again, you might not like it anymore. Only get a small bar eh?
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Hi vyvyen.
One comment in your post screamed out at me and really summed up the reasons for the worldwide epidemic of obesity and T2D.”I wish I had known they were not healthy”
We have had, for decades, food manufacturers filling us up with dangerous carbohydrates. On the back of that came riding in the weight loss companies with their useless low fat regimes, even the medical profession is singing from the same song sheet.
Welcome to the revolution!!!
Together we can and will make a difference, every week that goes by, more people start this healthy eating plan and every week there are more success stories. You can’t hide that or make it go away and soon it will become common knowledge.
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Hi lostgirl – a stone so far is good, very good! I would recommend you drop the pepsi max though! My old head was very fond of saying ‘if you always do what you always did you will always get what you always got’. It’s very true.
Next time you can’t resist a veggie burger could you make a big salad with some feta cheese added then bring just your veggie burger home? You can still enjoy your burger minus the chips which have caused you weight problems. You would have the bonus of feeling so virtuous as well. Swallow it down with a diet coke if you can’t do without.Could you make it a once a week treat? It would give you something to look forward to with the knowledge you are still doing right by your body.
I would recommend making a batch of coconut flatbreads and freezing all but one. When the cake urge gets too strong replace a meal with one topped with yoghurt or cream and strawberries
Hope you have a better day today, you deserve it π
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I agree Hasimoto, it is hard even when you have broken free of your shackles. I too have been free of an emotional abuser for 15 years now (had to count that up!). There are lots of ways that I’ve since learned to protect myself, i.e. starting to see new people and then running a mile when I see traits from the other person I don’t much care for. I now have built a ‘fort’ around me and yes, maybe some of that was the weight.
I have a nice enough life, I’m living near my son and daughter, I see them often, my daughter gets married next month in Florida – which we are all looking forwards to. Having a bloke around just doesn’t figure in my wants or needs, despite family and some friends telling me i ought to dip my toe in the water again. I can’t see that ever happening though!
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A big BSD hello to all you new starters.
You have all taken the first steps on this exciting journey to a whole new healthy lifestyle.
You will all have doubts and lots of questions, there will be slip ups and accidents along the way but remember, you are not alone.
The path is becoming well trodden now and those who have went before have left a rich legacy of tips, information, recipes, and lots of fun.
There is always someone available to help out on these forums, they really are global now and growing every day.
Stick to the simple concepts, 50 g carbs or less per day, eat more fat and get plenty of fluids into your bodies and this time next week we will all be celebrating your successes along pith you. -
It’s going well jandz!:)
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Hi spirit
Thanks for the mention π
You ve done well.
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Hi vyvyen, welcome to the forums and the bsd way of life. If you like spicy food try the courgette bhajis. Make a big batch and freeze some. I add onions and carrots sometimes. Protein comes from the gram flour and you can make some raita from full fat yoghurt :). Plenty of veggies on here to give advice π
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Hi GR
I m glad to hear you’re still alive! Re light headedness-
I would suggest upping your water and fat.
Have you looked at Jenny Ruhls book ‘low carb problems solved’? (Β£3 on kindle)- she may help.
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posted by hashimoto on A humerous ice breaker and Hello BSD Fast 800's
on 3 Apr 2016 at 08:11 in Welcome to the BSDHi shortapple, welcome to the forums. I began with a BMI of 28.9 and now have a BMI of 21.7. I was aiming for 25, I am amazed at how effective this diet is – and it does improve your concentration. I’m still 5’4″ though! Lol π
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Hi Vyvyen,
welcome, there are quite a few vegetarians on the forum and are always happy to help if you have questions. There is a fantastic Creamy Cauliflower and Bean soup in the recipe section that I made – I can recommend that. I try to have soup once a day – it is very filling and gets a lot of veg into one meal. It is also good for planning as one pot does 1 for today and 3 for the freezer!
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End of week 4 and 1lb off…..Its only a 1lb but I’m grateful as a loss is still a loss and considering the amount of carb crap I ate & drank over Easter weekend I expected a gain π³
So it’s the midway point of the 8 weeks and this is how things have panned out so far:
Week 1 – 4 lb loss
Week 2 – 3 lb loss
Week 3 – 2 lb loss
Week 4 – 1 lb lossI’m determined week 5 will not follow this trend!
If I can lose another 2 lb I’ll have reached my first goal…it means I’m back to the weight I was at Xmas 2014.
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posted by Denise47 Jones on A humerous ice breaker and Hello BSD Fast 800's
on 3 Apr 2016 at 07:58 in Welcome to the BSDWelcome Shortapple
I too had a hysterectomy 4 years ago and had breast cancer 7 years ago, so for me, a change in lifestyle was a must. I exercise regularly as I have always enjoyed exercise, but my eating involved too many Carbohydrates as I believe these were good for me. Since having the hysterectomy, I have found that I put on weight much quicker and its very hard to shift, and over the past 4 years have gained 2 stone!
The good news – a stone of that has come off in 4 weeks!!! My 4 week weigh in was yesterday and I am so pleased. Colleagues have noticed and I have much more energy already. I do shift work and have used this as an excuse for the past 2 years as part of my weight gain, but have proven that even with 12 hours sat in front of two computer screens, this diet works! I now go out during my two 45 minute breaks and walk and am hitting 10,000 steps almost every day (even on my night shifts).
Someone once told me the mind is stronger that the body, and this has got me through the last 7 years! If the mind says I can do this, the body has to follow!
I CHOOSE LIFE!!
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Hi desperate, no other diet has worked for me, at all. This one is different.
Have you been tested for hypothyroidism? It is a common cause of weight gain and cause you to be breathless.
I would also ask to have your peak flow measured in case you are asthmatic. I have post menopausal onset asthma. It’s not as rare as you may think.
Have you also had a Fsb test done.Those tests could put your mind at rest.
Fish:. I. Always foil. Wrap mine and add what I fancy – any herb/spice, lemon, soy sauce, fresh ginger root, chilli, onion, tomatoes, mushrooms, courgettes. Etc
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Hi Darleen
Keeping under 50 g of carbs is the main thing. If you make sure you’re having plenty of fat the protein shouldn’t be a problem- it tends to be a problem when people still restrict their fat too much but this is a low carb, high fat, medium protein diet.
Just looking through my MYfitnessPal records, I d say I tend to have 30-40g of carbs, 25- 35 g of fat, 30-40g of protein.
But I m only really concentrating on the carbs and vaguely remembering to add fat. The protein seems to take care of itself!
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Nikkioaks you are right about the volume thing about fat and muscle.:)
Newlife totally agree it is a revelation about not thinking about sweet stuff 24/7 π
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Georgiarose, interesting re toothpaste, i have used arm and hammer bicarb toothpaste so will have to go back and check their packaging. Wasn’t very happy when I read titanium dioxide was an ingredient!
Is it the penfolds having an effect or do you think it could be lower BP? A few of us have had that but mine sorted itself by week 7.
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