Any chance you are either increasing muscle or more hydrated?

Have you been doing waist measurements? Others say those are sometimes a mental boost when the weight doesn’t go down, but things are still changing in your body. I don’t measure mine, but I have a belt that keeps needing new holes every so often – at the smaller end ha ha. Used to be the other way.

You never know,Christine, you might have the chance again! 🙂

Hi Type2Partner. It sounds strange, but I needed to buy food on a railway station after I flew home from holiday recently. Needless to say, the option was sweets or sandwiches. I bought a BLT, ate the filling and binned the rest. In the past the only available option was McDonalds – I bought a burger (no fries), ate the meat and salad but left the bun. Neither option was ideal, but I felt them to be the best choices in the circumstances.

I live near a small city, but most eating places there are still of the sandwich or something with chips style. Since starting the BSD 17 weeks ago I find I eat breakfast, then nothing until evening. If I am with someone who is eating again lunchtime I just have a coffee. If they ask, I just say either that I’m not hungry, that I’ve already eaten, or that I’m going out for a meal later.

One thing I can find is a breakfast. BHS do a 4-item breakfast which sets me up for the day. Perhaps you could find something similar. I find many cafes serve an all-day breakfast.

Hi captainlynne
As Janet said , there’s none so blind as those who cannot see!
I have another friend who had her kidney out last year( it was cancer, however they ‘got’ it all) she has put a lot of weight on and went to slimming world, she has lost a stone and a half and swears by low fat everything, and won’t hear the words you will put it back on plus when you finish the diet! I feel like I am in a time warp! or something!
Christine

mmmmmmm not having a good week this week, have put on a 1kg since last Tuesday not sure why , I did have a couple of wines at the weekend but not that much !!! LOL,
Have been really strict on the calorie counting this week, but still weight has crept up, have 3 sessions in mind over the long weekend hopefully they will kick start the weight loss again, I feel thinner and better in myself and my clothes definitely fit better so those are pluses, but I do like having the physiological boost of seeing numbers on the scales decrease

Hi Lucia
Haha so I’m really 86 then! I think I might just add the two together and be 14!!!
I wish I was in size 16, I seem to be losing weight but not inches at the moment, go figure!
Christine

Had this conversation last night with a physiotherapist (socially). She has to lose weight and get her cholesterol down so she’s eating veggies, grains, nuts, pulses, low-fat and taking statins.

Told her that folk on here are getting hood cholesterol results but just not interested. She’s seen my progress but discounts what I’m doing, and the whole BSD ethos.

Oh well, won’t have to see her again after August.

I read your post with great interest, Steve. I have a similar situation with my GP (the worst thing is to end up with ‘Non-compliant’ recorded on my e-health records, lol) but ironically he’ also says as an intelligent human being I’m in charge of my own health. When it comes to my GP, I’ll let my annual blood tests do the talking. After Week 8 (and only 12lbs lighter), I feel my BP has dropped but I need to take regular daily BP readings. I haven’t done so yet, having focused on blood glucose levels instead. I need some hard evidence like regular daily BP readings to justify to myself my coming off meds (even if it’s only 40mg pill a day). And the results have to show consistency. Keeping in mind BP is an indicator of external stress (unrelated to diet) which can obviously fluctuate, I’ll rely on two or three months of BP readings. So long as the records are consistently in the Normal range for BP, I’ll be happy. If BP starts to drop to below Normal, then I believe I can be reasonably sure the meds are pushing BP below normal. Keen to see how you go!

Can you make an appointment with a practice nurse instead of your GP just to get a blood pressure check?
If it is quite low, you can then see the GP if needed to review meds, and avoid seeing them at all if it is not.

I must admit Janet that is the first time I have heard of protein being implicated in cholesterol !

Hi janet1973
Thanks for info, shows how much I know!
Hope she does give it some thought she would be so much healthier, as we all now know!
Christine

Oh and bad , sad, news, really doom and gloom,
Oh woe is me.
Etc etc.

Next door has their first pink blossom out. He has beaten me again.
I obviously, have been out and given a good piece of my mind to the tree.

Tree huggers? No way, it deserved a telling off.

Only 364 more days to wait

Love Lucia
Xxx

Hi Judith
Thanks for info on cholesterol, wish I could re-trace my steps and tell the person I was talking to that it doesn’t matter about the quantity of protein you eat! Thanks
Christine

Hi captain Lynn,
How many people have signed the petition?

Has everyone got, their mums, dads, bros, sisters, sons daughters, cousins, aunts uncles etc to sign the petition

I got my neighbour to do it. I think he was glad I wasn’t stopping long.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi orchid
Good idea! Will try that tack next month, she seems interested however She is hidebound by her husband and his views, it’s such a shame, she is such a lovely woman, thanks for the idea though
Christine

Hey Bill,
You are a man in the know.
Any idea how many members we have?
Love Lucia xxx

Hi Christie 1948.
One of my blogs, I was in the mood for reversing ages or halving them.

So you still only a tiddler.

Glad you have good jeans, me too, mine are a size 16 and shrinking.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi sianeb.

I have various health conditions which cause pain. Before starting the BSD I had become accustomed to using a walking stick more often – sometimes to get up from the chair or up the stairs, or walking round airports. Get the picture?

Now after 17 weeks on the BSD I don’t need the stick. The lady time Imused it was to close the garage door that had rolled too far up! 😃

Many of us are finding benefits we never dreamed of when we began this 😃

Hi Bill 1954,
First, I hope you are now on the road to recovery.
I Truly have missed your banter and wisdom.
Glad you are back, but the googled thing about it is, you have missed several light hearted digs at you and I have got away with it.

Secondly, I have read your blogs, sometimes, I miss you on this this thread only to find you giving encouragement , guidance and friendship to a new member. You have helped me immensely.

Thirdly and bad news for you Bill, you now have a good friend in me, wether you want it or not 👫

Look after yourself.
Love Lucia
Xxxx

There’s none so blind as those who will not see. Its part of the human condition. Everyone of us has to have our own light bulb moment, our own epiphany. Until that happens you might as well talk Dutch to them. Be patient, they might get there by watching your example.

I’m not sure it was protein that was the worry with cholesterol but the fat attached to it. Anyway its been proved now that animal fat is not bad for us. And also, this isn’t a high protein diet. We are recommended 45g for women and 55g for men in the book which I is moderate protein. High protein is nearer 90g a day.

Ooohhh Bill, you are brave. And all you others who’ve had eye ops or injections. I could cope with contact lenses, but the thoughts of any medical procedure on my eyes makes me cringe. *shudders*

Oh dear Sue. You gotta love well meaning neighbours!

I have read on a website I wouldn’t necessarily trust that a slightly higher than normal intake of sodium and potassium can help with the first few days of a low carb diet. However this wasn’t aimed at diabetics and as I said you can’t trust everything on the net.

I have done some 90 minutes pieces of strenuous exercise without any problems on this diet. There are lots of sites that will let you estimate how many calories your hike will burn. You might decide to increase you intake by this amount less that of 15,000 steps.

Cheese should keep okay for a few days and many vegetables will keep, such as peppers or carrots. Apples should be okay. Do you have cooking facilities? If so you could take dried beans.

Or you could just decide to eat more vegetables on the first day or two (falafel, onion bhaji salad, carrots cut them up as you go) and on the 3rd and 4th day you don’t eat as many vegetables as normal. You could take some higher fibre snacks such as prunes, and guilt free brownies, or something else made from coconut flour and have these on the final days.

Hi christine those of us who have had cholesterol tests have had lowered or normal cholesterol readings, so fat, protein etc don’t seem to have anything but a positive effect on cholesterol on this diet 🙂

Hope your friend thinks again about this diet 🙂

Hi Christine,
maybe if you don’t call it a diet….. but a new way of eating? Introduce her to the idea of the Mediterranean Way of living – lots of fruit, veg, oil, full fat, cheese etc. She would probably get the benefits of that without the 800 or even 5:2 and it is more approachable.

According to the Sydney University GI site wholegrain spelt bread has a GI of 54 and (a 30g portion) has a GL of 7 or 8. So both of these are under Michael’s 55 and 20 respectively. So as far as the book would be concerned it would seem to be okay to have a little.
Spelt generally seems to be classed as low GI (but about as high as it is possible to be and be so classed). So it might be okay more generally.

Fruit such as apples and pears and pears and berries are alright according to the book.
I’ve had some plums and melon also.

It turns out the”low sugar ” cake – wasn’t. It was actually gluten free and full of sugar as my neighbour brought me another piece over in the package. I didn’t eat it .

Day 60 weight 10st 4lbs
Blood sugar 10.2

Hi all
I have a question!
Was talking to someone about the diet and she said straight away, ‘how does all that protein affect your cholesterol’, well I didn’t know what to say as I have never had a problem with cholesterol!
Also went out for lunch today with old college friends, one is disabled and just in remission from cancer and can’t put any weight on! The other lady is overweight with a very overweight husband who is diabetic, he does nothing to help in the house or garden, and does no excercise, she has multiple health issues, some of which are what I have had before the diet and don’t have now, hiatus hernias, causing acid reflux, you my drift? Anyway, she complemented me on my weight loss then said ‘I wish I could lose weight and hubby needs to too’ so I just said do the diet for both of you! She didn’t bite though! That’s twice that I have planted the seed with her, maybe next month!
Christine

We keep it very simple in the Nutribullet. My favourite is strawberries with Greek yoghurt (need to put the yoghurt in last). Some others in the house find they need a tiny bit of banana. 200g of strawberries and 100g of Greek yoghurt is about 200kcals, slightly more with the banana.

I agree with Christine – a great idea offering to drive – they will end up encouraging you not to drink for the sheer convenience!! Well thought out, that man! 🙂

Hi john
Good idea, you can do it!
Christine

My pleasure, Steve. A couple of times on the BSD I’ve pigged a bag of salt & vinegar crisps – I suppose I may have accidentally been doing myself some good! I too have spent years not adding salt to anything. Ironic indeed.
Hope you get on OK with your GP.

Thanks everyone, you’re all lovely people x.

I do feel my clothes are the tiniest bit looser, haven’t got any great energy yet though. Ashamed to admit that I had got so large that even climbing the stairs is an effort, so can’t wait till I do that easily! I must now try and do a bit of exercise, that may speed things up.

Thanks Rose for being so helpful. I had quite a salty dinner this evening deliberately and I’ve been careful to add salt to my BSD meals since I started. That was a culture shock after several years of squeezing salt out of my diet to help with high BP. And I’ve taken your advice and am speaking to my GP tomorrow. And if he’s still being Mr Unhelpful I’ll try another doctor in the practice. Oh the delicious irony of having a low blood pressure problem!!

Calories,carbs, fat, protein .

Can anyone give me daily amounts on these please ,looking on my fitness pal to check them out ,

I will then paste the totals into my notes along with favourite posts,I’m getting really boring with this now !!!

Thanks folks Alan

Hi Steve,
Firstly, I’m no medic – but I wouldn’t recommend just stopping any meds unless your GP OK’d it. Could you see someone else at the same surgery if you think your own GP won’t be supportive???
I am on assorted meds following a heart attack years ago. A few weeks ago, I also felt rather dizzy – I got an appointment to get my BP measured (two or three days later) and it was normal. I think in the book it says that if you do experience light-headedness you could have a bit of salt. If it keeps on happening, then get back to your GP. I think this is something that is known to happen if you are on BP meds and losing weight so your meds might need adjusting. Guess it means you are successfully losing weight!
Regards, Rose

Thank you Orchid!

The grading is a challenge. They decided earlier this year they were asking me to do more than it was reasonable to ask of anyone – and hired a part-time assistant. Training is generally a net drain for a full semester, so short term it doesn’t generally provide much assistance. Fortunately the training for my current assistant did not (as I feared) result in a net increase in time – the assistant is extremely good at providing the kind of feedback I do. Unfortunately, her other commitments prevent her from actually providing much assistance. Out of the 1000+ papers for the semester, she managed to get through a few more than 100. I had hoped for closer to 300.

And the big challenge is that there is a hard, fast deadline for the grades – I exclusively teach students who are graduating. So this could not have come at a worse time.

Hi if you are a British citizen please could you sign our petition? Thanks 🙂

Just suggested to an overweight friend that he ask his GP to refer him for ‘ exercise on Prescription ‘ which is funded in the UK by a lot of health trusts. I downloaded the referral form for him off the internet. His GP signed the form for him and the following day he had an appointment!
In Norfolk where he lives you are offered 12 weeks course of some kind of exercise to suit your needs, with assessment, monitoring and support
Sure lots of people doing the BDS would be eligible, just search ‘exercise on prescription’ plus your county / city.

Ha ha – pants falling down- at home I hope or all sorts of trouble!!! ‘I am qu’ is a typo can’t remember what I was going to say! No, went to see doctor a couple of weeks ago and they want to do my blood tests and see how I’ve been doing long term, currently on 1000 mg metformin in the evening plus a statin for cholesterol and tablet for high blood pressure – he did say may have to take me off the drugs – how good is that! I did have fleeting but many giddy moments which have now passed – I’m too scared to take myself off the drugs although my best mate ‘nurse debs’ did say at least halve the metformin – which I haven’t..

Also I have a pair of tract suit bottoms which keep slipping off – fun isn’t it!

Keep up the good work and I’ll try and remember what ‘qu’ was??!!

I can recommend a mini trampoline ( rebounder) for a quick workout. Can be surprisingly energetic. Lots how how-to videos on u-tube. They’re fairly cheap, don’t take up too much room, and you can even watch TV while you bounce! They store nicely behind the sofa. Rebounding is supposed to be extra good exercise, it’s weight bearing, but lower impact than running etc. It’s what NASA recommends, that’s good enough for me…

Christine,
Thanks.
The first trial (after dinner) is going to be an evening at the pub. I’ve offered to drive 🙂

Bill,
I agree about the injections – it’s after that it’s uncomfortable. I’m on monthly injections at the moment at the Bristol Eye Hospital so I’m getting lots of practice. 😉

John

Had a wholemeal seeded bread sandwich when out to lunch today, and 20 minutes later had attack of reflux which was briefly very uncomfortable. Maybe you and your friend are right Marcus B. I was formerly very fond of bread, and another toast, made all my own spelt bread, so it was genuinely added sugar free. Not missing it, strangely. Only had the sandwich as the only other option was soup…
Going out for meals is a challenge, especially in a small town. I hope that cafes and restaurants will get onto the low carb bandwagon soon…

Hi TFB
Like some others, I’ve carried on beyond the 8-week limit (currently 13 weeks) and am feeling no ill effects whatsoever. I’ve lost a stone and a half (9.5 kilos for our metric chums) in that time and am aiming for another 6-7lbs (3.5 kilos) to reach my target weight. I’ve stopped thinking of it as a diet and now view it as a change of eating habits. I followed the diet rigorously for the first 8 weeks, but do occasionally now have the odd slice of toast or bread when I feel like it, along with a potato or two occasionally. This seems to have no effect on my weight, which I’m losing at a steady 1.5 – 2 lbs per week. I also exercise every day (15 mins core strength in the morning and try to walk a few miles every day plus a weekly yoga class) so maybe that’s helped, too.
I was diagnosed pre-diabetic in January, which was the kick-start I needed. Wish I’d done it years ago – I sleep better, my skin is clear and (curiously enough) I’ve had no recurrence of the gout I was suffering from prior to Jan (which was the reason for the blood test in the first place).
Good luck. Your body will let you know when you need to stop losing – till then, go for it.

Tallyhoo
Are you still on metformin ?

I’m on four a day 500 mg plus one xelevia /sitagliptine 100 mg

I stopped taking them both when I started this diet last week did not see nurse ,it’s come down in a week fasting now 6.7

Not sure if done right thing but wanted to measure it without the pills

Surely you must be off pills with those readings ? So low ,what’s qu ?

Sorry lots question second week ,pants falling down feeling great
Alan, thanks for help.

Hi Happywife, I am a bit sceptical of these machines, for fat percentages at least, they rely on a constant percentage hydration. If you get a fat percentage reading one week then take one the next week and are less hydrated, you cannot compare the two. I think the dehydration pushes up the fat percentage (from memory – others please correct it if is the other way around). If you tend to be consistently hydrated and take the measurements at the same time of day, then you may be ok. You should also see the hydration reading on the output from the scales.
The house scales I have state I should weight myself at around 3pm as that is the best time for being hydrated. Needless to say I don’t tend to be around the scales at that time of day! First thing in the morning, the fat %age varies and I can see the hydration also varies, with no real relation to the weight loss shown on the scales.
What my scales also give me is a reading of visceral fat – score of 1-20 , there 12 and under is you are at an ‘ok’ level. I have been on 12 since I got the scales last year. I assumed, these were unlikely to be very accurate after reading about the hydration and %age fat. However, the score has gone down to 10 in the last 8 weeks since I have been following the 800 plan – as an indicator – it is in the right direction. Is it accurate – don’t know.
The scales, however are accurate, consistent and I can step off and on and get the same reading. My old scales, if I stepped on and did not like the weight, I stepped off and on again and it usually obliged and gave a lower reading :-).

Juliet the medical advice is : if you feel thirsty you are already dehydrated!! So just try and ‘neck it’ whenever you can!!! 🙂

So, here goes on a little self experiment. On Monday I started taking the Inulin daily (6 gms) and I went to the gym where there is a fancy pants machine called a Boditrax, this is supposed to give all sorts of readings – fat percentage, fat mass and visceral fat among other things. I hadn’t been on the machine for 4 weeks and it showed that although I had lost nearly 2 kilos (no was not following BSD properly until last week) the fat percentage had gone up by 0.2 my fat mass had gone down by 0.5 and the visceral fat reading had stayed the same. So fellow BSDers I will give it another month on the diet and taking the Inulin and report back on results on the visceral fat reading. Honestly not sure if this machine can do what it says it can but as it hadn’t reduced the visceral fat reading as a result of the 2kg weight loss think it may be worth a go. Has anyone got any experience with these machines and their accuracy?