Ah – I understand the ketosticks now SunnyB – good idea you had to use them. You are doing so well towards your target – hope Monday morning’s weigh in puts a smile on your face.

Don’t know about the full fat yoghurt, I have 3 no-fat still to eat and whilst I managed to eat the first yoghurt, I wasn’t singing its praised that highly, plus I do hate wasting food. Still trucking on though, I do find planning ahead really helps regarding meals.

Waiting for good news of your progress.

😎

Ooooooooooh look at you mixing it up with your flours! 😉

No spoilers from me, I’m still in a state of WTF, to be honest 😀

Here I am! As Lucky is aware, I’m in experimental mode again tonight.. And have just made broccoli flatbread! It’s currently cooling so will report back. I substituted gram flour for the almond flour as thought it was a. cheaper and b. more savoury! Loving the new food processor, which blitzed it!

I also finally downloaded Girl on a Train but really need to finish current book. Argh, no spoilers please!!

hey,

inspiring story, Im 4 weeks in on the 800 on Monday, i lost half a stone in the first 2 weeks, last week stepped up running, I ran a half marathon in May before I started this regime, i got things the wrong way round! Last week ran a 5k, 7k and then run london 10k on Sunday, for the 10k i ate some porridge made with water and a banana for fuel in the morning. After the race I kept to the diet pretty much but due to the breakfast was 200cal over, but better than stressing about breaking down was my feelings on it.

I started at about 120kilos, I have found myself the last 3 days feeling hungry which I guess is due to the additional exercise last week so calming it until tomorrow this week.

So , yeah it is tricky, however my understanding is that your body starts to pull on the fat rather than carbs for fuel. However I heard a programme which suggested your “turbo” comes from carbs! Who knows, I know I feel better on this diet but gusto when running etc. definitely slower..

I suppose everyone’s different Eps, some people may wake up ravenous and breakfast might keep them going until mid-afternoon. Some of my friends have porridge in the morning and are still full at lunch time, if I ate porridge, I’d need brunch AND lunch lol. Some people can eat smaller meals, I’ve been so used to eating massive portions – greed, plain and simple – that the thought of sitting at night hungry is terrifying. It probably wasn’t even hunger, just habit. As it is, even though my tea is much much smaller than what I’d have eaten before, I’m rarely clearing my plate. But I need to be sure that that one meal of the day is going to be enough to satisfy me. Or provide me with more than salad lol (you know me and salad!)

I’ve browsed through my Kindle and yes, Girl on the Train. I have been meaning to read it for ages so while it’s fresh in my head, I’ve binned Tipping Point for a bit, I was in a novel mood anyway, and what the what is going on in this book???? I have absolutely no idea what is going on. Which is the point, I suppose…

Everyone quiet tonight?

Oooops! Well you’re not alone in transgressing and you’ve calculated the damage (in calories at least), so just chalk it up and move on. Don’t waste time and energy beating yourself up, it’s counterproductive. Just make sure you are back on track from tomorrow and hopefully you will find the damage weight-wise is not huge.

Keep going and let us know how you get on Verano.

Just had my first real problem. Just two days from the end of my second week and gave into cadburys chocolate!!! Had just 180cals worth but actually just wanted to raid the fridge and biscuit tin and anywhere else for sweet carbs!!!! Had a couple of glasses of ice cold water and have managed to get over my ‘sweet’ urge. Will just keep drinking water tonight and hope I can limit the damage !

Going to try oldtykes recipe for cauliflower. Sounds lovely.

It will take awhile to get the hang of things, to the point where you’re not constantly thinking about it. It will happen though, so don’t panic.

Well, at least you can share part of the meal and don’t have to cook two completely different meals.

Really like the sound of that Almond Fish recipe weescotty.
B – Yogurt, Blueberries and Tahini
L – Cauli Rice, Prawns, Capers, fish sauce and Thai Spices
D – Lettuce, sundried toms, two tiny beetroot and roast chicken breast, sprinkle of walnut oil and Nar sauce

Dinner was chicken breast, 19g of cashew nuts, garlic, broccoli and Tamari sauce, and rocket soooo delicious!! 👏🏻👏🏻

HoneyBeeMe it would definitely be a caffeine withdrawal headache I started 2 and a half weeks ago and did not give up my (big) morning coffee or my teas and did not get headaches. Can you have your coffee black or with a dash?. I remember going to a health farm decades ago and having the most awful headaches. Not giving it up again!

i agree with Verano that chickpeas and cannellini beans are very satisfying and cauli has never tasted so good. oldtyke’s recipe sounds wonderful and I am going to do it, thank you

He did get the message, especially as he has seen my b/g results drop dramatically. However, I am right now making the veg fritatta for both of us and cooking him oven chips. Hey ho.

It’s all carbs Buddlesdevere, not just sugars I’m afraid.

Hi bigP
What a fantastic weight loss you have achieved…..( I had to look up the kg thingy and convert to pounds btw!!!)
Well done. Don’t know how to transition off Fast800 as this is also my dilemma now I am close to my BMI.

However whilst we are all individuals and our fitness levels can be rather different.
I can say for me that I am able to exercise perfectly well on 800 calories a day but I was doing exercise before this diet …..just huffing and puffing more! At first I felt rather tired towards the end of an exercise session….now I have masses more energy.
In February I was 81kg and I am now 63kg. I’m 63 and 5ft 2in.
I regularly play tennis and I also go to some quite demanding fitness classes like body pump, body combat and spin…..not all at the same time!!!!
Hope you feel up to going to the gym. Think the exercise is worth it for the health benefits and the help with the weight loss.
Take it easy at first…..but don’t be overly afraid 🙂 Good luck.

Can you tell me please when you say you are restricting carbs to X no grams – are talking all carbs or carbs from sugar?

Well if he got the message on one occasion, I’m sure he’ll get it on others! Frustrating for you though, not to have his support and well done for sticking 100% to the BSD. It can’t be easy, given your situation. Here’s hoping we will be reading your positive results soon!

Has anyone else got the diet constantly on their minds. I think about it all the time. What to eat, what not to eat, what to buy, how many calories, carbs etc. I can’t seem to concentrate on much else at the moment and I have even been dreaming about having lots of numbers going around, like I was on University Challenge and not able to get the calories right.

OK I am going mad but I am sure it will pass when the diet becomes part of my normal routine and I don’t have to refer to the book every 5 minutes.

Not sure if I mentioned here but the first day on BSD my daughter finally moved into her new house after days of worry and nearly being let down. My husbands response was to put a bottle of champagne in the fridge. When I told him I couldn’t have it he said ‘it’s not carbohydrate or sugar so why not’ – oh dear – I told him he could drink it and I would sit in the bedroom until he had finished. I think he got the message. I took it out of the fridge and we are saving it for when our daughter comes to visit, she can drink it with her dad.

The next day the supermarket promotions came in the post and he read out every cake, pastry etc that were on offer. No, I haven’t killed him yet but I have stuck to the diet 100%.

Hi Syb and Timmy,
I try really hard to stick to the principles of BSD and I definitely try to avoid processed carbs like the plague.
I don’t keep under 50gm of carbs like some people but I aim for around 800 calories most of the time.
I use myfitnesspal as a guide but don’t beat myself up if I go over a bit on my calorie count occasionally.
I have been away and strayed a little from the diet…..perhaps some alcohol was involved !!… but I’ve soon come back on track.
Thinking about this…..it has been nearly 6 months on a diet so there are bound to be some slips ups.
However I haven’t eaten a slice of bread in this time……just a small mouthful when the OH commented that the bread was yummy.
Scarcely any potato or pasta. Have had some rice or noodles and the odd piece of cake on people’s birthdays etc.

Early on in the diet I could feel some discomfort in my stomach near my liver…..I can only presume my body was getting rid of some of the nasty visceral fat I had stored.
I feel so much better and I have much more energy.
I can wholeheartedly recommend this diet. Think I feel 20 years younger!!!!

Hi Switzerland,
Well things have changed, we went to pezanace, and got a good spot by the tourist information in the centre! We got there at 11.30, the ‘caravan’ came through at 3pm then the first riders came through at 4pm, it was great however, it was over in five minutes! There were a few stragglers and one guy who stopped right by us to get a new bike but other than that it was plain sailing for us and the riders. We got back to David’s and had a quick look at the recording we had done, and it blooming well doesn’t film the riders coming through the town! Mad or what! well we were disappointed, my brother always does a film and puts it on YouTube, so we have to see what he comes up with.
We had a great day, I loved every minute, I wish I could follow the tour all around France!
I hope you enjoy watching it, I wonder who’s filming Australian uses? We watch itv4 in England. And sometimes Eurosport.
Had to have pasta last night, and tonight I have salmon in breadcrumbs! Goodness knows what it’s doing to my diet! We will see on Saturday morning.
Christine

I’ve done roasted cauli tonight. Smother it in Greek yoghurt mixed with the zest and juice of a lime, chilli powder, tiny bit of curry powder, garlic,cumin,and black pepper. Takes about 30-40 minutes at 200c. Having it with 97% pork Harrogate sausages.

Hey Ziggy
Sounds like you are getting there. Great news about the BP and hopefully your bloods will come back with good news too. Well done on the weight loss too – that’s close to 6lb you don’t need to worry about any more.
No I’m not diabetic, but was bordering on obese – usual story of being too short for my weight! Ideally I would like to drop 28lb overall and I am teetering on hitting the halfway mark. Hoping I might see that achievement when I do my final weekly weigh-in on Monday morning. We are away this weekend though, so it might all go wrong.
I started using the ketosticks while I was away, purely as away to show me if I was in ketosis or not, as an indication of how I was doing with keeping the carbs low enough, as I had no bathroom scales to rely on to show me how I was doing. Anyway, it worked pretty well, as I managed to keep myself on the straight and narrow most of the time using that method. Now I’m addicted to using them, just as a security blanket really.
So, keep at it Ziggy. Try a full fat yogurt and add in fresh fruits yourself – nicer and better for you on the BSD. Look forward to hearing how you progress.

Hi brrrrr – not everyone is sticking strictly to the 800cals, however, it is important to keep an eye on the carbs. If you can keep them to 50g or under per day, you can probably get away with not paying too close attention to the calories.

Personally, I want to know my intake of both cals and carbs and have found that having tracked them for weeks, there’s quite a lot of stuff I don’t need to look up again. It’s also training me to recognise appropriate portion sizes. For me, to get maximum from the BSD, I believe I need to be around the 800 cals mark each day – not that it always happens, but I average out pretty well over the period of a week. Last week for instance, I was well over on three days, but under on the other four, so my average calorie intake per day over the week was 769.

If you want to track, could you plan the meals to day before and calculate the cals and carbs in preparation for the day to come? Bottom line is, everyone has to fine a way to make the BSD work for them, so it’s entirely up to you how you choose to use it.

Hope it goes well and you see the results you are hoping for – keep us post.

Yay that’s great! Definite progress. Cant do the clapping hands here for you but I would if I could!

Hmm maybe I should try that about the two meals…

hee hee I have those safe places for recipes too… bits of paper in books…

Sorry to hear about the doctor’s news and your husband’s response. I guess you have to quietly make some subtle changes, which won’t attract too much attention – at least initially. It sounds like you are going to have to wean yourself off the carbs and sweet stuff gradually, but remember every little helps. It’s a shame you can’t get hubby on board, but I’m sure you will fine ways around that as time progresses.
Don’t worry about no weight loss yet, just keep cutting down and moving about and it will start to shift. Hopefully you will eventually be in a position to do the BSD 800 properly, but for now, cutting back to carbs wherever you can should help.
Shout out is you need to and good luck with it all, hope to be hearing news of positive progress soon.

Yes I know what you mean, if you exhaust courgetti and cauliflower you’ve lost your two ‘carbs’ to have a meal with, your pasta and your rice. Lentil pasta sounds interesting, I love lentils. I made a lentil bolognaise once that was amazing but I lost the recipe. It’s in a safe place, of course, so safe I can’t find it. Never used lentil flour though, I’ll need to buy a shed to keep all these bloody flours in!

I’m pretty much doing two meals a day, but I’ve never ever really been a breakfast person, unless it’s a full english and someone is cooking it for me and washing up lol. I find the moment I start eating in a day, it kickstarts me and I’m constantly looking for something to munch on, graze on. The longer I can leave it before eating, the better. Plus, I like a decent tea, and I need to be full up at night. Or rather, I used to need that. I’ve found the last week or so, my tea is the last thing that goes in my mouth at night, and I’ve lost the urge to snack for the sake of it. I haven’t even had my greek yogurt and berries because I haven’t wanted it. I was looking back over this thread for a recipe earlier and I saw that I’d had a mad one a few weeks ago wanting a packet of crisps lol. Not thought of them since. Progress!

Hi Ellen,
Nice tip. I find it useful when I’m out shopping and the Sirens are calling to me to just look at the prices and ask myself “Do I really want to waste my money on X?”. I know full well that if I succumb then I will snaffle it all sooner rather than later (I call it destroying the evidence!) and I will be annoyed with myself for the lack of self-control. Thankfully, after six months of BSD-ing, the cravings are much reduced and things are now more a question of choice rather than temptation.
Well done on your weight & centimetre loss – keep it up.

That’s some great results! Well done!

I’d say that level of exercise on 800 cals is at the top end if not a little too much.

If I were you I’d be tempted to start transitioning onto the 5:2 (maybe start with 4:3) and training on your full calorie days.

I’m not even counting calories (at a guess I’m consuming 1200-1600) and am doing a similar level of exercise to you and it’s still flying off. I’m only 5kg off my target weight too.

Hee hee well not sure it has worked that well, but I will say it totally disolves hunger! Weird… but wont be getting one often anyway, will stick to my peppermint tea!

Yummmm – samosa sounds so delicious! Lucky husband, I say it again!! :-)) Will have to start cooking something more exciting than courgetti – I hate to say it but I might just be getting sick of it… :-0 Had a thought today that if I got sick of cauliflower I’d be stuck with nothing to eat!!! ;-)))) Which isnt true obviously as LOADS of foods but you know the way. Discovered some lentil pasta the other day so will try that soon – on the day I make it to dinnertime without having used up too many calories – wasn’t too high in carbs and was bright red! Only lentil flour in it supposedly. Might make a nice pasta bake. I don’t know how people just divide their calories in two meals a day – I just can’t do that and spread it out over 3. Or havent yet anyway – maybe I should try as an experiment and report back…

A bit of background before I get into my dilemma; I started a concerted effort to lose weight on 1st March 2016, and as is detailed in my profile, I started with the Exante diet for 4 weeks and then onto Fast800. My starting weight was 123.8kg, I am now 84.7kg, and will be a healthy BMI once I hit 82kg. Apart from a holiday in June and a 2 or 3 cheat days since the holiday, I have stayed in Fast800 and the weight continues to drop off.

Up until my holiday I supplemented the diet by walking, but since getting back I decided to up the ante and start going to the gym. I’ve now been going for 4 weeks and really enjoy it, however I’m finding myself being really hungry on the days that I go, and on occasion feeling light headed. My work out generally consists of 20mins cross trainer, 20mins weights, 25mins bike, 15mins rowing machine. In cardio alone I’m burning 550 calories per session, and have no idea what calories i’m burning while lifting weights. I do this 3 times a week.

Can anyone give advice on whether I can stay on Fast800 while doing this?
If not how should I be managing my calorie intake on workout days?
800 calories a day is fine on my rest days, but how can I stay in ketosis on work out days if i increase my calorie intake?
If my ultimate goal is to stabilise my weight around 78-80kg, what is the best way to transition off Fast800?

Wow, that weight loss is amazing! Well done!

Thank you igorasusual and SunnyB. Been away for a few days and returned to a check up at doctor with dire warnings about the risks of being border line obese at my great age 😟. My husbands response to my report-back was to bring a couple of Bakewell tarts home when he was out….. He’s old school and thinks all this ‘diet lark’ is rubbish.

Thank you for the reminder that it’s about addiction not self control. Planning seems to be the key you are all recommending. I like the idea of cutting the stuff my OH won’t notice first ie potatoes, bread etc. So far no weight lost at all. Tomorrow is another day…. Thanks again for all the support.

Hi
You could try mashed chickpeas or canellinni beans. Just have to check that they fit in your carbs total for the day.

Hi Sophors, congratulations on your upcoming wedding 🙂 This is a great eating plan, I’m on Day 33 and I’ve lost 26lbs already. There’s a great crowd on this forum, everyone is really friendly and helpful 🙂 Good luck to you 🙂

Hi Eps, oh definitely could have been a lot, lot worse than a coffee! Sounds like you’re pretty sensitive to caffeine then? One of my friends gets palpitations with it, she’s ok with decaff. I bet that’s saved you a fair bit of money then, bringing your own lunches?

I’ve never heard that saying before, but now that I have, it puts about 95% of my life into context! Haha!

Well, I decided on Lamb and mint chickpea wrap ‘samosas’ for tea but I was slightly foiled… chickpea wraps once again faultless now I have the right brand of flour, the lamb mixture gorgeous, but the wraps wouldn’t ‘stick’ together along a seam when moistened like pastry does. So… I will try this again with the nacho pastry (but this will make them a lot higher in cals!) another week, and for tonight I guess it’s lamb samosa filling and chickpea wraps lol. Hubby had one for lunch and he said it was lovely. Will make a little greek yogurt raita to go with, and a salad 🙂

Also peppermint tea aids digestion and helps prevent the dreaded bloat!

Hi all, calorie free drinks I’ve done most of my life by choice. It’s the solids I have trouble with. So, I’m giving a list of drinks that don’t taste like ass for certain times of day and life:
Green tea: There is a fair amount of caffeine in green tea. Sub it in for those extra coffees. You will find it calms and focuses brain activity all at once.
Coffee: I drink one a day. Instant or café made. Long black with a dash of full cream milk. I add raw honey for its health benefits. If you skip the milk and honey it’s still a good pick me up in the morning, and sometimes we need that.
Peppermint tea: Imagine you just cleaned your teeth. Do you still want to eat? That’s the beauty of peppermint tea. Great in the afternoon when snack attack hits. Also amazing for period pains, so you can go drug free even if it’s bad.
Chamomile tea: Very calming at night. Great if you still feel hungry before bed. Drink a cup, and feel the eyelids droop. You’ll sleep right through.
Water: Headache? Constipation? Drink some filtered water. This diet recommends 3 litres of fluids a day so get over how boring water is by adding some lime or lemon. If you’re adventurous add some fennel or cumin seeds and shake them up in your bottle. They add spice but no cals.
More to come in future posts.

Hi all, calorie free drinks I’ve done most of my life by choice. It’s the solids I have trouble with. So, I’m giving a list of drinks that don’t taste like ass for certain times of day and life:
Green tea: There is a fair amount of caffeine in green tea. Sub it in for those extra coffees. You will find it calms and focuses brain activity all at once.
Coffee: I drink one a day. Instant or café made. Long black with a dash of full cream milk. I add raw honey for its health benefits. If you skip the milk and honey it’s still a good pick me up in the morning, and sometimes we need that.
Peppermint tea: Imagine you just cleaned your teeth. Do you still want to eat? That’s the beauty of peppermint tea. Great in the afternoon when snack attack hits. Also amazing for period pains, so you can go drug free even if it’s bad.
Chamomile tea: Very calming at night. Great if you still feel hungry before bed. Drink a cup, and feel the eyelids droop. You’ll sleep right through.
Water: Headache? Constipation? Drink some filtered water. This diet recommends 3 litres of fluids a day so get over how boring water is by adding some lime or lemon. If you’re adventurous add some fennel or cumin seeds and shake them up in your bottle. They add spice but no cals.
More to come in future posts.

Hey! Most likely you’ve considered these and already do what’s right for you but, I’ll offer some advice anyway. 800cals is pretty limited, so if you’re not wanting to eat it all, a good multivitamin will at least make sure your body gets all the micro nutrients it needs. Another thing that people often miss is omega-3, it’s the fat found in oily fish and really important for brain function, amongst a host of other things. A few omega-3 capsules daily will up your calorie intake, and ensure your brain, skin, eyes etc are getting enough of what they need for optimum health. Read up on them, and think about adding some in, even post 8 weeks. Congrats on your achievement!!!

Hello Bill
Thanks for replying. Ok I’ll not worry and hopefully it will pass. Will try the adding extra fat tip, as it is so unpleasant trying to eat more when you don’t want it.
I’m 45 and have lost 30lbs so far, with 4 more days to go until I have completed the 8 weeks. Going to carry on as I have more to lose and I feel so good eating like this, loads of energy and no fuzzy brain. Have conquered the carb addiction, hooray!! which was why I was doing this!

Hi all, I’m getting married in November. I want to lose my middle! It’s made up of big macs and beer, and huge portion sizes. I’m not overweight, but looking in the mirror naked I have skinny arms and legs and a barrel body (like my type 2 diabetic Nana), so I want to kick that middle and get healthy, and look fab for my big day. I feel this diet offers science and support. Really keen to hear from others who feel they are leading an unhealthy lifestyle and help each other achieve our goals. Mine is 10kg in 3 months. Let’s do this!

Hello all. Today is week 3 day 7. Weight started at 225 and today it is 213. More impressive are the blood sugar readings. For the past few days my fasting has been consistently below 100 with one morning hitting 85! So exciting for me. I am loving this WOE. Very rarely hungry and keeping below 800 calories a day. So encouraged to read of others experience on the plan. Downward we go.

thanks for reply…yes its a totally different thing to SW. I thought this would be straightfwd, but it really is quite different…re my fitnesspal…im not sure I really like using it but i will give it a week or so and review. I thought i was pretty much on track with SW and thought the weight would drop off me with the BSD…not quite the case…maybe Im a late starter! I like the forum too so will check in now and then. Good luck to you too..sounds as though you have got your head round it all!

Out of sheer boredom at lunchtime (after I ate my sauerkraut and salmon and tomatoes and spoon of humous), I went out for a walk and found myself buying an americano… I don’t even like coffee very much! Also it seems to make my heart beat too fast and sometimes I really notice it the next day, a kind of frantic euphoria followed by a flat feeling. But anyway, just wanted something and it seems to have squashed all feelings of want and in fairness tasted quite good. Just flavoured water anyway, with a splash of milk so could have done worse:-) I went from getting lunch out nearly everyday to bringing in my own lunch every day for the last 8 weeks and it is really good but sometimes I just want to buy something!! That sounds like a bad thing doesn’t it – wonder why buying something is seen as a treat…
I definitely will have to get into meditation at lunchtime. Anyway, coffee fuelled now and ready for a productive afternoon – what’s the saying coffee makes you do stupid things quicker??… We’ll see….

Thanks Timmy,i will bear that in mind. I ended up having my lunch at 12.30 and now it seems a long wait until tea time. How long did you find it took for your appetite to reduce? Traditionally on a low carb diet it takes me 3-4 days but thats a looonng 3-4 days!

I think i will have to get up earlier and do my walk then as i have been spending all day trying to talk myself out of it – doing it in the evening gives me enough time to think of an excuse why i should put it off.

Hi caroline
I had same problem with my fitness pal I did eventually manage to change it but and this is not helpful as I cant remember how.I find my fitness pal(quite unuser friendly). Just to say it can be done.
I too did SW however the whole eating plan is different. So you will need to re train your brain. Eat when hungry eat approx 800 cals if doing bsd800. Avoid all complex carbs bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and processed foods bread biscuits etc. However you need to eat full fat products yoghurt, nuts cream cheese, olive oil etc. in moderation. This helps the eating plan work. Also keep you fluids up. Avoid snacking. Eat veg grown above the ground as a rule and small portions, avoid high sugar fruits if trying to lose ( banana etc). Everyone I think feels some withdrawal at the beginning mine took about 2 weeks but then I stopped feeling hungry and felt great. Everyone is different and we all do different things. Weight loss is a funny thing depending on amounts to lose, some lose very quickly and masses and some like me the weight comes off in blocks so I will be static for a week then lose a block. For example in 11 weeks I have lost 24 pounds I have 2 1/2 stone to go. I am now on the med style diet upping my cals from 800 to about 1200 but not being too obsessed. I don’t weigh too often now as it gets in my head but am losing as clothes loser. I no longer snack at all (trust me that is amazing), I do plan a lot. It is hard to train yourself re carbs as they are everywhere and if like me my plate was full of them albeit wholegrain etc. There are some amazing people on this forum who have inspired me with there ingenuity with cauliflower !!! I can honestly say though that I now never want to return to my old eating habits. Whilst SW gets the weight off slowly it does not address plate portions, processed food and how much food we think we need to how much we actually need. I am now only just starting to understand when I am really hungry ( after exercise etc) or mouth hungry . I am still shocked that I am functioning well on what appears to be such small amounts of food or maybe I am a pig.
Sorry this has turned into a long post hope your still awake it si different re read book I kept going back to check. It works thats all I can say Have fun good luck xx

I think what you need to remember is that this supposed to be a way of life and not a miracle cure. It won’t set you back to your youth again, but will hopefully get you off your meds and the continued deterioration and complications that come as a result of having T2.

I’m not actually diabetic, and as far as I know wasn’t prediabetic but I think I am/was a prime candidate for it. However I’ve made the decision never to go for refined carbs again. Whilst I may have the odd bit of brown pasta/rice/wholemeal bread the majority of my diet is going to be made up of slow release carbs from veg and wholefoods.

The other thing to take into consideration is that you may need to do the diet for longer for it to take affect? IIRC from the book, in order to get to stable levels you need to get rid of all the fat from your liver and pancreas. It might be that this still needs to happen?

I wouldn’t lose hear though. You’ve become healthier and your blood sugars are going in the right direction! Keep it up!

thank you for tip…just changed my fitness pal settings( seems so simple when you know how)..ref the fruit I can be far off with my calculations but will take your nut technique on board! thanks again for your help

Thank you loopylou, hope you enjoyed those cocktails.. I’d have fallen at them too 😁my head is a bit better today. I think you may be right regarding the caffeine as I have had none! I’m suffering from hunger yet but really missing carbs, rice, pasta, bread and potatoes.. I had curry with cauliflower rice last night and was pleasantly surprised. What does everyone else recommend as substitutes?