Oh thank you so much Frog. Your advice is most welcome and I will have a go at what you say. What would I do with out the helpful people on this forum?

try this keto calculator – Igor’s favourite!
http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/
you put in your data, planned food intake (eg 800 calories, however many grams of carb, etc) and it works out targets for fat and protein.
For example mine was 800 calories (of course) 50g carb – I then opted for 50g of protein, and it calculated that my fat intake target should be 45g. When I recently reduced carb target to 30g, I didn’t adjust protein, so it now indicates I need 54g of fat.
TBH, I eat to be within or around the calorie and carb target. I’m not veggie, so don’t have to worry about protein too much, so I let the fat and protein totals fall out by themselves.

Most of the standard calorie count things are set up to run with – well bog-standard stats – so they’d typically work on 2000 a day intake for maintenance, and if you eat 100 calories a day less……. in ten years time you might have lost a stone!
I think the sites have presets and error warnings to avoid being held responsible for people doing dangerously silly diets/encouraging anorexia, etc.
To avoid error messages, just don’t bother with ‘completing your day’
You are in control of what you want to eat, and what your targets are, not the app that you’re using!

I did successfully set up an 800 calorie a day target on MFP, I can’t remember how, and have done on FatSecret as well.

Thanks. My first trip

Hi Carl.

Holiday – where are you going? Hotel or self-catering? This year I’ve been to Prague and Italy as well as a few places in England.

Christmas – yes, it was a challenge but I knew if I waited to start until 1st January I would find excuse to put it off until the 2nd, then the 3rd etc. Armed with my trusty BSD book I only ate low-carb foods throughout the holidays.

Hi and welcome FLASH ! X
Weve all done it…lost and regained..many times in my case..
The important thing is to get up and try again..forget yesterday,today is day one of the rest of yr life,corny tho it sounds
I was dismayed at the thought of giving up bread,toast,spuds,chips etc, but my friend had lost well over two stone in 8 wks on bsd so i gave it ago
its not as hard as you may think..the less carbs you eat,the less you want them coz you’re not as hungry.
Yes Its true those ‘ filling’ carbs were making you hungrier.! Who knew!
I have now followed my pals example and lost two stone eight pounds in 9 weeks. ( i am repeating the 8 wk cycle now,day one week ten today, coz it is so do able)
My saving grace is Fage fullfat greek yoghurt..i have it every day,its creamy and delicious. Plus its lovely to put some butter on yr greens! Thats one great thing..its a fullfat diet! No low fat trans fat spreads or low fat desserts loaded with sugar for us!
Drink plenty of water,keep an eye on yr cals and carbs,move more,and you may be delighted with the results very soon! Read asmuch as you can on here…tons of help and advice.
Kick The Carbs To the Kerb! 😄😄😄😄 xx

Hi JAN i must say I dont like this waspy top now it fits!
It maybe relegated to the charity shop bag!
Well,in the SEVEN mins since I posted the message you replied to Jan..ive been logged out and it took three tries to logback in …Grrrr?..too hot to be faffing round..and why tho i endlessly tick Remember Me,it never does?🤔🤔

Hi Frog
Thanks for info. I tried My Fitness Pal but couldn’t get on with it so will have a go at Fat Secret. Hopefully it will help as you say with eating out as that’s what I will be doing in holiday.
Have just done MFS and it insists that my RDI is 1400 calories per day.
Do I just ignore that figure and just record what I eat and do my own thing?
Also butter, I only want say a teaspoon but it won’t go that small. Any advice?
As you can tell I am not that techy.

really inspiring thank you Captainlynne!

I have 2weeks holiday at week 4, any good advice tips, noticed you started BSD just before christmas which must of been a challenge too?

Yeahhhhh Yowser are you doing the super special smaller top dance. I’ve found some of the things I’ve been desperate to get into for years, now I can I don’t like them, and that one week you just get into something, then the next week it’s too big, especially with trousers, amazingly wonderful 💃💃💃💃💃

Hello Puneet!

Thank you for replying 🙂 10kgs lighter is amazing – go you! It’s great hearing people’s success stories, so I’m hoping they’ll spur me on too. I reckon food addiction does play a part – perhaps more so than we realise – especially when we’re stressed. I think I will also re-read the book while I’m in these early days, just to make sure I don’t miss anything important.

I’m aiming to post here often so hopefully I’ll soon be writing about some successes 🙂

Thank you very much for the encouraging post Switzerland. Have a great day!

Hi bsd chums x
jILF well done on bloodtest results and weight loss! X
Phew a hot day today! Keep cool everyone
Ive managed to get into another top thats languished in the wardrobe unworn for many a long day!
dont you just Love non scale victories!
Ps altho coz its striped,i look rather like an angry wasp! 😄😄😄😄😄 x

How is everyone doing….day 3!

I’m finding it ok, the food is really tasty but prep is a bit of a hassle/time consuming (following the book), and have split my lunch into two as need a late pm snack to get me home from work On the plus side, I’ve lost 4lbs after weighing in today and found this very motivating. Also energy levels in the afternoon have been noticeably better, so the carbs must of been causing tiredness. I’ve not been craving the evening glass of Vin as much as expected either.

Ideally need to lose 2 stone, which feels a long way away at the moment…bit worried about the weekend!

This sounds great! I like your idea of sticking to the same set of meals and then experimenting when you have more time. I’ve just started a thread too, in an attempt to maintain accountability and motivation 🙂 Good luck! You’ll be at your goal in no time!

Good on you for trying again.

i did the same thing. Four years ago when i got diagnosed with diabetes 2, I lost 13 kgs through a similar diet(I was not aware of BSD at that time). My sugar levels were great and felt so much better. However, changed jobs, highly stressful and with in 6 months all weight was back on and sugar levels were again scary.

About 6 months ago I started exploring the idea that i had food addiction. If there was food in front of me i had to eat it. Next three months were a real struggle- I was trying to curb my eating without much success which led to anger towards myself.

I cant say what changed two months ago. I went and bought book , read it and then read it again ,suddenly, a switch turned on and here i am 10 kgs lighter- sugar levels are erratic but they will settle down.

I can still succumb to curries ,especially when my son gets takeaway but have had a naan or roti in two months.

i am extremely satisfied as of now.

I just want to wish you all the best for your venture with BSD.

Sumo – you may want to try even smaller goals – half stone, down into next stone number, clothes size etc. Each success helps along the way 😃

Sounds amazing Susieb – I haven’t dared weigh myself yet! Day three for me and doing ok at the moment. Not felt hungry but have been drinking buckets of water and also peeing like a racehorse – may weigh myself on Friday….

Wow Jan that’s brilliant – congratulations
sorry, I missed your post this morning, I must have been looking at another thread

Lots of us here to help if you need it. Just ask.

Hi,
I’m a vegetarian and did the full on BSD800 earlier this year after a diabetic diagnosis. It’s so easy to eat loads of carbs when you don’t eat meat.
I gave up sugar first which was the hardest bit.
Then I did 3 weeks counting carbs and calories and it was hard but I lost 1.5 stone. I only stopped because I was starting to sag everywhere so decided to take things more slowly.
Since then I just keep to low carbs with occasional treats and haven’t put anything back on. My blood sugar’s in the safe range for diabetics and I’ve never had to resort to meds:) Hurrah to Mr Mosley and this forum. I also sleep much better, don’t get indigestion and don’t snore!
My tips are: eat lots of lentils and pulses; have occasional treats- xylitol is great for sweetening low carb cakes- tastes better than stevia and is good for your teeth; never eat white flour or rice. If you overdo it one day, it really doesn’t matter. I have switched from wine to gin with light FeverTree tonic as I don’t want to start on nasty chemicals in ‘diet’ goods. And eat lots of avocado and nuts! Fat is your friend. Oh yes, walk everywhere and do yoga or pilates. You don’t need to push yourself physically unless you really want to.
Enjoy.

I think as my first target is 5stone I should break this down in to stone goals that way the next target is never too far away, and give me more chances of the yes feeling?

i am travelling to England and hopefully Scotland.

Hi Minnie

Have you tried using an online calorie counter?
There are lots of free ones out there FatSecret (my favourite, they have a UK specific site and not many ads) My Fitness Pal, caloriecount…

It’s mot much of a faff to do, it helps you keep track of calories, protein, fat, carbs…
As well as a more accurate record, even if you only use it for a week or two, it will help you understand the carb counts of foods that you regularly eat (or maybe make you want to review whether you should be eating them as regularly 🙂 ) – and helps you assess restaurant menus more easily too.

I find calorie counting alone is relatively easy, but the more nutrition facts that you want to log, the more complicated it gets!

Hello everyone,

I’ve finally plucked up the courage to register on this site properly and join the forums after lurking around for a while. I’ve come to the point where I realise I absolutely HAVE to do something about my health and weight or otherwise I’ll be looking at a very miserable future! Being tested for Type 2 diabetes on Friday and am also recovering from/suffering with extensive back problems (3 slipped discs and degenerative disc disease) – neither of which are being helped by being significantly overweight….However, despite these and other problems looming over me, I find diet willpower very hard to come by! I’m full of good intentions, read all the books, do the shopping and so on but the minute someone says “fancy a takeaway?” or “here’s some chocolate” and all my determination dissolves. I did once lose a good 3 stone (42lbs) but since then I’ve let it all pile back on and more. So, I’m looking to use the BSD to turn things around. I want to lose a minimum of 100lbs but need to break this down into more manageable goals! I’m aiming to use these forums as a way of keeping accountable and motivated and look forward to “meeting” everyone here. What advice can you give a newbie like me? 🙂

Yeaaa Yowser
🎼🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤

Hi Puneet – welcome.

Great result. Where will you be travelling?

Thank you for your post SunnyB.
I have taken on board what you have said so salad tonight will not have beetroot and sweetcorn but will have olive oil dressing. No avocado because I don’t have any left.
I have written everything down today and am amazed at where the calories go.
Don’t seem to have eaten much but have already used up quite a lot of calories. Think it is time for water boost with a dash of lime to get me through.
I must confess I have been guilty of guessing calories so writing them down has been a big eye opener.

Thank you lovely people.
I’m not deliberately straying, I just haven’t got to grips with it yet. I thought being a vegan would make it easy but it does t really. It’s certainly made me realise how much carb/sugar I was consuming
Have decided that for the first week I am going to cut out the processed carbs/ large amounts of chocolate and biscuits and hope that it will ease me in gently. I haven’t started counting calories/carbs yet (to be honest that seems like a minefield to me!) until my body has adjusted to not eating rubbish.
Am on third day and it’s going quite well. Had a couple of wobbles. Have taken your advice and only been angry with myself for minutes then ‘moved on’.

Weighed myself on Monday morning and will do so again next week, so if I have lost weight that may spur me on to continue. Fingers crossed…

Thanks again

Good luck – I’ve started today, so will follow you with interest 🙂

Thank you for the lovely welcome 🙂

I’ve been reading posts thoughout the forum and have decided what am I really waiting for, so have begun today! I’m took all my opening stats, quite horrified really that I’ve done this to myself. I’m inspired by how friendly everybody is and how well people are doing!

Thank you for the suggestions and tips. I’m starting to work up a good plan and shopping list to get me through the next few weeks.

I’m in the system for a hospital referral (optician referred me) so I am getting checked. It was just the flashing light that told me I need to improve my health.

I think I’m going to keep a diary, something to reflect back on when I question why I’m doing this as I know I will at some point!

Hope everyone is having a lovely day.

Tiredx

Wow! That is an amazing story and really motivating.

I have been on BSD for about 6 and half weeks. I have lost 10 kilos. However, i am struggling with my sugar levels.

I am hoping to lose another 2-3 in next week and half and then move on to maintenance. Your post is just in time for me.

also, as my eight weeks finish I am travelling for 3 weeks – a real test.

These posts are what are keeping me on the narrow path and I am going to rely on them during my travels.

Hi Jan *waves* 😃

I agree Janet. Found that posting on here does help. We don’t get face to face support from a slimming club leader or members, so the support of these forums is great. It’s certainly helped me to stay on track and that’s one reason why I’m continuing to post 😃

Happy to hear your news, and that you’re back on track 😃💐

All

Firstly many thanks for tips on 1 cal spray. Will go shopping ASAP. Secondly, I have just come through Waterloo station which smells of pasties. Heavenly, but feckin unhelpful. Drifted into M&S where I picked up the most delicious king prawn and avocado salad which I am now merrily munching on the train, leaving aside the potatoes.

I too am not counting carbs, only calories. I am not eating any grains, sugar etc. My treat is sugar free jelly which I make once every two days. OH bought catering pack for me!

All good so far…

Well done team – keep up the effort!

Day 56
Tuesday September 13 2016

Weight: 323 pounds

In 56 days I lost almost 20 pounds.

Well, that is quite an achievement. It is september and fattening up the stomach again is very near:

Trick Or Treat
Thanksgiving (3500 calories the average eaten on that Thursday)
Christmas
Channukah potato Latkes and chocolate Gelt
New Year’s Resolution

My Resolution would be to keep LOSING!

About 3 pounds a week is my average.

So, 12 pounds a month.

September to new years Eve is 4 Months. 4 times 12 = 48 pounds. So, I should be 275 by New Year’s Eve singing Aud Land Zine with Champagne everywhere.

So Then 6 months later in June 2017, I should lose another 75 pounds. Then I will be 200 pounds. A good 20 pounds to go on losing.

So, June I will be doing my shopping for new clothes.
10+ suits
20 + Thomas Mason Custom Dress Shirts Shirts
12+ Dresses for the Lady of The House
20+ Blouses for The Misses also

Scabal, Vitale Barberis Canonico, J & j Minnis, Loro Piana, John G Hardy, Burberry, Dormeuil, Holland and Sheery would be my top choices.

I think I like best:
Holland and Sherry
H. Lesser and Sons
Dormeuil
Burberry
Scabal

But Vitale Barberis is quite very good for their Fresco fabrics for the dreaded summer heat. Atleast 4 of them would be Fresco and maybe one Seersucker for casual days in summer. The rest would be very conservative windowpane and herringbone style suits.

I never knew it would take planning to buy a new wardrobe. Months of planning. It is like I am planning to move to the moon.
I would say I would do the shopping in Palermo, sicily in July. It would take a good 4-6 weeks to finish after the third fitting for all of the stuff. for both of us. I would be down the sea a few miles in Malta doing some even more serious shopping…… And it ain’t clothing!!!! Atleast they speak English there, but drive on the wrong side of the road!

Oh JAN thats lovely having a floaty feeling! Ive had a few floaty moments over the last 9 weeks!
Doesnt It feel nice!!! I want more of them..sometimes these days i feel so light that I get a surprise when i see myself in the mirror looking…weelll,as my dad would say…rather stout!
Horrid word that!
Anyway lets sing the Nimble loaf song Jan! And fly off in our hot air ballloooons!
🎤 She flies like a bird in the sky -y – y !🎤 🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈 xx

Day 56
Tuesday September 13 2016

Breakfast: 2 ounce Cheddar

Lunch: 4 egg Spanish Omlette

Snacks:
1 apple
1 Pear
1 Peach
Sunflower seeds

Dinner:
2 bowls beef stock soup

Day 55
Monday Monday 12 September

Breakfast: 3 ounce Hard Swiss

Breakfast: 1 Cup Greek Yogurt with Blueberries

Snacks:
1 Apple
1 Peach
Pumpkin Seeds

Dinner:
Salmon
tilapia
sweet potato

Day 54
Sunday 11 September 2016

Breakfast: Broccoli Cheddar Omlette

Lunch:
Hummus Platter

snacks: None at US OPEN

Dinner: Liverwurst open sandwich

Day 53
Saturday 10 september 2016

Breakfast: none

Lunch:
1 Cup Greek Yogurt with strawberries

Snack:
Sunflower seeds
1 apple
2 peach
Carrots and hummus

Dinner:
Moo shoo Beef
Fried rice
Miso Soup

Hi Yowser
Thankyou luvvy, I must admit I’m feeling very floaty today, you know in a wafty way, not dizzy. How are you doing.
😎😎😎

Hi gemgem
Ooh you have had a rough ride, but never mind it’s good you’ve put it behind you. Starting this plan is like learning a new life skill, if we are very fortunate and have planned well we could have a smooth few months to get ourselves well into the swing, but life is rarely like that. Planning is the key. I remember my 5 day 1 st week on this plan I had to do a eight hour mercy dash journey I took breakfast dinner and lunch spoons and forks, I felt so virtuous it was unbelievable sitting at the services eating s prawn salad and others coming out with kfc or whatever. You will have shit happen, and each time you learn something from it, and then it becomes 2 nd nature, and necessary for your health, as it transforms that as well. So good for you, keep posting good and bad make sure you drink plenty and add a little salt to overcome the carb withdrawel symptoms.
Hope your days are more settled.
Love Jan 😎😎😎

JAN you have smashed the 100 k barrier! You smashed it,crashed it,took the joint and trashed it! Wa- hey!
That is a very good feeling psychologically to be under 100!👍🏻 x
SUNNYB Keep in touch when you can and look forward to hearing all yr news x
CAPTAINLYNNE altho am far from maintenance ,will be v interested to hear The Continuing Story of CaptainLynne!
Xx

KRYSIA 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😄😄😄 x
Well done you Losers! …and RUTH i feel for you on the dreaded plateau but it Will move on, believe me x
Good to hear from you INDY and wonderful news you have crossed the 50 lb mark! Imagine trying to carry 10 5 lb bags of spuds? Well now you have dropped those ten bags! X

On Another note completely..is it just me or does anyone else tick the remember me box at login but find you never are remembered?! x

Ok, confession time. I fell off the wagon after such an amazing first 10 days!
Alas, work stress – I lost a key member of my team (my 2iC and friend) as they were unexpectedly diagnosed with serious illness and immediate ongoing hospitalisation… And the same week the rest of the team fell one by one like flies as they all got the flu! – the very same week our workload was planned to more than double! So I missed several days of food journalling and I succumbed to not planning my meals ahead because I was working so hard and long and stressed out to the max, and got a sandwich one lunch, a chocolate bar here, a takeaway dinner there, culminating in a friday evening at-work-but-after-everyone-else-had-gone-home panic attack and my dear colleague took me out on the town and seven million drinks later, I woke up the next day with a terrible hangover and no willpower and succumbed to the temptation of a full cooked breakfast complete with eggs bacon sausage toast… So i fell well and truly off the wagon!!! I ADMIT IT!!

Luckily, I only went up 1.5 kg. So technically I’ve still lost 4 kg from my starting weight and I’m clinging to that! All is not lost!

Back on the wagon. I’ve just bought my groceries and planned and packed my meals for tomorrow so… back on the journey!

That’s the thing, isn’t it. Not to just give in and pack up because I fell off slightly! I’m getting back on, my goals remain the same. Dusting myself off from the fall and onwards and downwards as we say!

Hi Indy
good to see you back – great news on your weight loss and the ‘normal’ results – You will get there with the BMI!

Hi Jan – thanks!

Thanks SunnyB and Frog for sharing your experiences and thoughts.
I think the 8 weeks seemed liked a great bargain in retrospect; my expectations were hopeful rather than high, so when it worked I was amazed – particularly in that the science made sense too.
I have a nagging feeling though that there’s a bit more to go. My internal fat, as measured by the Tanita, is staying around 13-14% from 15%, so a further drop to a healthy 12% would give me a sense of ‘job done’. And also since sticking to a plan will keep me to more variety of food and a few less calories/carbs, it will do me good anyway.

I think I will do another 8 and meantime will look on the other thread too.

This morning 163lb again. Now to hold that and make progress!

Well done Snoop.. steadily going down by the day! Good work!
54 such good news: down again! Love hearing your weigh ins!!
Mental4ever you’re already well into it with a 6lb loss! All of us have had to work out kinks and figure it out as we go, the main thing is you’re doing it! Keep planning, reading, trying the foods, calculating, etc and you’ll keep being rewarded!
I’m a slow loser. .last week I was so diligent with daily exercise and eating up til the end of the weekend, and lost but stumbled Sunday. So I just re-lost that pound this morning. 😂

Not to be too personal, but my mini goal is to get through the first few days of my monthly friend totally on plan and try to keep the sodium down. I weigh daily, and it’s discouraging to swell up suddenly even when I am being faithful! Thinking it will hit me in a day or two judging by my crankiness yesterday and savage desire for chocolate. (Had a couple bites of 70% dark chocolate and that did it!) All recorded.

Have a happy day y’all.

There is a range that is ‘healthy weight’ so no reason not to stop only at the upper end of it. Don’t push to get too close to the bottom of that range either, but 10 stone seems comfortable – for your height NHS BMI suggests 8 and half to 11 stone is the healthy range.

Hi Indy
Wooho weight loss 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 keep posting here we need BSD buddies like you to inspire us.
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