That was interesting, Chookymama. I read this story from Trust Me I’m a Doctor and only took away the line that olive oil is a good compromise:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3t902pqt3C7nGN99hVRFc1y/which-oils-are-best-to-cook-with

I should really have looked at the chart. I can’t get rapeseed oil here, but I can get refined olive oil, which looks to be better for cooking with than extra virgin. Cheaper as well.

Fascinating to see that butter comes out so well!

Thanks for that.

Welcome to Arthurconandoyle.

Yes, there are a great group of people in this forum. Alway there to give support and advice.

Have done Weightwatchers in the past and once again the weight plus extra was put back on so quickly.

My mini goal is to get to under 230 pounds, which should happen within a week as i only have 3 1/2 pounds to go. I just bought a whole bunch of new knickers with a gift certificate ….. so my other mini goal is to bin those and fit into the pretty ones i have had for years!!!
Right now i only have one pair of regular slacks/pants that fit and they have been mended at least twice. I do however have about 10 pair of slacks that i will fit in when a loose just a bit more … maybe 10 pounds. I do have a new set of capri length new pants and new pants that look like pjamas but were cool for summer … only wore those for 2 weeks and they are going to be donated.
Of course my next intermediate goal will be to get to under 200 pounds ………. what a celebration that will be!!

I’m currently planning non food rewards … massage, pedicure, etc.

I have not eaten bread for 5 months. But, if you need to, use oats for bread.

Spelt is easy to digest, but still has gluten in it.

Or you could tell the Pillsbury DoughBoy to stop eating his products!

Almost a Cary Grant Style Stud.

PrincetonianStud

Hi phlebas. I have also started BSD recently after doing 5:2 a couple of times. I don’t have a lot to lose, I seemed to be stuck at 11st 2lbs after doing the 5:2, and am aiming at 10 st. (5ft 7in, 62 years old). I record my calories on Calorie Count web site which I have been using for several years off and on, but they recommend low fat and ‘good’ carbs, so I am ignoring all that. What do other people use, I have seen mention of my fitness pal, is that a good one? I am toying with getting a fitness band, but not sure which would be best for me.

I have lost 4 lbs since 9th Sept which I am very pleased with. I think I need to concentrate on keeping carbs lower, have been around 70g per day, but managed to hit 58 yesterday! Got caught out by cashews – 6g in 20g of cashews! Going to change to almonds in future.

Revisiting the 1 cal spray. It doesn’t really do much does it? The veggies stuck to the roasting dish and were as dry as sticks when I took them out of the oven. Admittedly I could’ve taken them out earlier I suppose. So. Back to rapeseed oil (better for you than olive oil when heated) but only a small amount. Weight seems to be stable – I really hope that this is not it! I have another 10kgs to go!!!

Hello All – thank you 🙂
some great results all round – well done! My stats have averaged out now – I have been extra strict this week to make up for the excesses of the weekend and MFP tells me my daily averages are within BSD800 limits Yay! It helps me a lot to see those averages because I know I can right wrongs quite easily! It also helps me to read all your posts. Every single one is a motivator. My phone pings every time one of you posts (following a couple of threads) and it’s a little reminder of what I’m working towards. Thank you 🙂

Good luck, Tiredofthis! Look forward to hearing how you are doing.

Topcac – you most certainly will have lost water weight now, so a weigh-in now may give you a little boost. My official weigh -in is on a monday.

Hi, Flash21! Your own thread certainly helps accountability when you commit to writing in it everyday – good or bad (see my mistake below!) Good luck to you too!

Right, yesterday’s stuff:

DAY 2/56

BREAKFAST: (11am again) omelette, chili, onion, 10g reduced fat cheese, 1/2 grilled tomato. Splash of skimmed milk in tea.

LUNCH: not really. I had planned a Greek salad but I wasn’t hungry at lunchtime. I had a lot of running around to do in the afternoon, though, so I took 1/2 apple, a piece of cucumber and 30g feta with me to nibble on.This came to 117 calories. Just as well, because later…..

DINNER: homemade bolognese (using 500g minced beef = 5 portions), 220g courgetti, 30g reduced fat cheese. Really lovely!

Would have been great at:
Calories: 735 Carbs: 32g Fat: 41g Protein: 56g Fibre: 7g (too low)

But…..couldn’t resist joining hubby with some red wine, and, later on because of that, I succumbed to a piece of garlic bread that he had left. It was yummy though!

Final score:
Calories: 1425 Carbs: 74g Fat: 49g Protein: 60g Fibre: 8g well, at least it increased my protein and fibre! Lol!

Exercise: busy day, mostly in the car. 7,700 steps.

This morning, down 0.2lbs. Phew!
I’m going to get going with more exercise today. Planning a nice walk at lunchtime!

Hi ruthdownunder
It’s a great book isn’t it?
I read it close to when I started on this plan and it was a fabulous incentive to avoid sugar/fructose.

I’ve also since read his book ‘Toxic Oil’ about the dangers of polyunsaturated oils v saturated fats and ‘Big Fat Lies’ about what the world’s health systems and big business knows and is not telling us.

Can highly recommend!
Linda

Hi Shaun
I think we all have our irritations with the medical profession – but “why do you want to lose weight?” if you’re clearly overweight and it is causing health issues – takes the carby biscuit!
Good luck with it, hope it goes well for you
I didn’t have a particular issue with blood pressure, but did notice when I was looking through test results yesterday that my blood pressure has reduced from several readings around 127/80 a year ago, to typically being 112/69 since BSD and losing weight.

I’m a bit of an evangelist on this at the moment, but if you don’t have it already, do request online access to your patient records – some GPs have had it for a while, but under new NHS guidelines all should be providing it now.
It’s brilliant:
You get to see blood results before you meet or discuss them with your GP or diabetic nurse, so you can formulate the questions you want to ask in advance of the appointment.
You don’t have to try and memorise key numbers during a rushed appointment.
You have permanent historic records so that you can see your progress.

You might want to think about changing your GP too – she sounds a bit rubbish 🙂

Hello Yowser!

Thanks for your welcome 🙂 Wow – 2 stone 8lbs in 9 weeks is absolutely amazing, congratulations! I’m pleased to hear that people think it’s easy to do this beyond the typical 8 weeks. I like the idea of it being a lifestyle rather than a diet. “Diet” just sounds horrible and restrictive! I’m already a Fage convert – it’s great and does seem to keep me going. I tend to have it with some berries which makes for a good breakfast, or a smaller helping as a snack. Butter on greens – now there’s an idea I can get on board with! Must do better at drinking water though. Moving around is currently quite difficult for me but I get up from my desk every hour and pace the corridors. Soon I will try walking to and/or from work. I did give that a go a few weeks ago but my back isn’t up to it yet 🙁 Am loving reading through the forums. Collecting up lots of tips and being inspired by people’s journeys and successes! Thanks again for your reply 🙂

Hi there,

I’m now on Day 4.

But be aware that GP’s are not all friendly. I need to lose 3 or 4 stone, or if I want to get down to my ideal weight (probably 6 stone).

I went to see my GP on Friday as I’m on blood pressure tablets. The first thing she said was why do you want to go on ad diet??? I tried to explain the BSD, but she was having none of it, saying that none of these diets worked. Not what I needed it, but that has now giving me the determination to succeed. I will lose 3 stone minimum, and I will keep it off.

Good luck & think of a slimmer healthier future !

Welcome Tired – I’m new to this too – just day 4 for me today – hope your first day went well – keep us posted xx

Likewise, Elaine. I’d never have thought I’d feel so satisfied on 800 calories. When it’s good food, it’s a real pleasure and I’ve easily turned down temptation (so far). One of the other benefits I’ve noticed is a significantly improved sense of smell, probably from not drinking alcohol. And how much better I feel and sleep for that!

And yes, three cheers for Michael Mosley!

Hi lucky
So good to hear your weight is still going down, I’m not happy with up either as I got completely unsynched when I was out of signal for a week in Norfolk, so had to desynchronises with another email address so lost friends etc. But broken strap not good as on mine I can’t replace the strap, I think I might just go for one of those simple little fob watch type ones, as they are less likely to break.
Hope Norfolk is good, but pitiful connection abilities for some reason well it was wherever I went. Lol
🙋Waving

Morning Jan
Yeah – I’m sure that 1 and a bit will be doable in a couple of days
Although I measure in kilos mostly, the big 3 is my next target – 2 kilos to go

not so good for me this morning – I’ve put on 0.4kg for no apparent reason. Not too stressed about it after the 1.4kg the day before – net over 2 days its still a kilo, and 0.4kg is less than a pound. Would have helped if I’d been more active though; I’d had good intentions of going over to Hampstead Heath again, but it was just sooooo hot.

Busy day today – gym, another cookery class – Growbag to Gourmet , so vegetables rather than DDCC, then going over to meet a friend in South London – I’m not sure if we;re going for a walk or going to Dulwich Gallery (or both).
I think the community centre has a gardening project that I could get involved in, hence the growbag bit of todays cookery; I did meet the woman that runs it at the normal monthly cookery class the other week, but only got talking to her at the end of the evening, so I ‘ll find out more about that today.
My main desire to have a garden though is more about somewhere to sit with Tea in the morning and afternoon and a glass or wine in the evening, rather than digging stuff!

Froglet enjoyed the roof garden so much last night that I might see if she fancies going up there for a bit before I go out.

Hi everybody, just a quickie! I’ve been awol due to a combination of internet problems on my PC (not my only way to access this but the easiest for me!), being very up and down health wise (up today, thankfully!) and rushing around like a blue arsed fly trying to make sure we’re prepared for this wedding on Saturday, routefinding, packing, ironing, thinking of food options because although I’m not starting panicking about food while I’m there, there’s a difference between being sensible and being stupid. The wedding day itself is going to be pastry laden, carb laden and sugar laden. And probably alcohol laden. I don’t have to go completely daft the other three days. So on top of everything else today a spelt loaf and Nigella cake will be baked. I will reply properly later. But also wanted to say, my UP band is completely kaputski. While camping the clasp went. It held together with insulation tape until a larger chunk snapped off. It then held together with a hair bobble until another chunk of band snapped off. I’m not a happy bunny with UP at the moment!

Laters! See you later when I’m packed and ready and chilling with a coffee! 92.9 kg this morning! It’s creeping down bit by bit by bit 😀 Doesn’t seem like yesterday when the scales went down into double figures from 100 kg plus! Have a good one!

Ruthdownunder, you are right – a kilo in 3 weeks on any other diet would have got all of us whooping. It’s a huge achievement to be at a weight you haven’t seen since 1998. Was trying to do the maths – is that 18 years?

Frog
I was the same – I don’t think I had any concept of hungry. When I started BSD on 1st May the one thing I thought I would struggle giving up was my cappuccinos. I absolutely adored them and had 3 a day. The best one was at breakfast – I would sprinkle it with a teaspoon of chocolate charbonnel flakes (that is after eating 2 more teaspoons straight from the tin). A homemade fruit smoothie would follow (while making it I was eating frozen fruit straight from the packet). This was followed by peanut butter on a paleo recipe slice of toast. After all that I was often still ‘hungry’ and would have a couple of pieces of dark chocolate.

Today I had an avocado and a hardboiled egg (or part of a hardboiled egg as my Labradors absolutely love a little bit of egg) then a nesspresso coffee with a teaspoon of double cream. I am full and couldn’t eat anything else and won’t be able to for hours.

BSD seems to completely re-educate you. I love my coffee now – it tastes like real coffee not coffee flavoured milk. One day – when I am braver – I will input my old breakfast into fat secret just to see how many carbs and calories it contained

Hi Izzy, have a good day

morning Arty – I missed your post of the other day
sounds idyllic! glad that you’re both well and having fun

glad you liked the fish Ruth! I should really do a calorie count and post that and last nights dinner in the recipes,

Morning Frog 🙂

thanks to all for the kind wishes, it is so helpful.

Hi Verano,
Thanks for the advice and support. In my case, I’m not diabetic or prediabetic, so the carbs are less important to me. I’m going to try and stick to between 60 and 70, in any case, but not sweat too much about it. I’m doing it for the weight loss, and while I haven’t lost as much as some (54andfatnomore is a true inspiration in that respect), I’m quietly pleased. The weight is coming off more quickly (so far) than on any other diet I’ve tried, and the company on here is great. It feels like a proper community.

Hello Arthurconandoyle. It’s elementary: the more, the merrier.

Figures for today:
85.0 kg
-0.2 kg
Overall change -3.5 kg

Yesterday’s food and exercise
785 cals
65 carbs
Moderate walk for 40 mins, 15 mins gardening

Big gardening session coming up over the weekend, but back to see my folks for a few days next week, which will be a challenge. I’m thinking of offering to take over the cooking, just to give my mum a holiday as well. I could also offer to do a bit of gardening for them, as well.

Day 23. BS 8.3 mmol/L. All is good from Oz today.

Hope everyone is well.

Morning all
Well I’m relieved that weighing this morning I have maintained my week 11 loss of 2.6 kg it was so amazing to go below the 100kg barrier, I couldn’t quite believe it, so now I want to turn that last week 5.7 lb loss into 7 lbs in the next two days, and then move towards 3 st loss, so got to do it now I’ve written it down here.
Frog I’m always doing that with the bed, it’s so tiresome isn’t it, keep up your good work with the reboot, I think I’m fully rebooted now, how about yourself. How did your week go.
Ruthdownunder . 4 kilo go for it girl get it gone.
Yowser I love that cartoon last night hehehe
Happy Thursday everyone 🍓🍓🍓

Hi Linda

Glad you’ve found an app that works for you. I actually think the carbs are more important then the calories(although both count) when you’re trying to control blood sugar.

Thank you Sunny! 🙂

Weighed this morning – another 2lbs making a total loss of 15lbs.

I’m keeping carbs to around 30g & definitely feel like I’m in ketosis. I was really hungry yesterday – managed to resist cheese on toast & had 25g of cheddar and an early night instead!

Only 2lbs to get into the next stone down.

Hi all.
Mind if I join you?

I have started the 800 BSD today. Initially at least, I am going to be fairly repetitive in what I eat so that I don’t have to think about food too much.

Thanks for all the comments and tips, they’re quite inspiring!

My story is that I started at 87.5 kg and lost over 12 kg with Weight Watchers but struck a weight loss plateau that’s been hard to move past. Read Dr M’s books and watched his programmes. They made sense to me, so I am enthusiastic about doing the eight weeks.

Well done everyone.

One and a half weeks in and my work pants are more comfortable now, no where near so tight around my waist, there is still a mini muffin top, but at least they don’t cut off my circulation now. ahhhhhh. Wont be long and I might need a belt. Oh joy.

Today
Calories 775
Carbs 46

I had some diet coke today too!! …. Came home after aquabics and it was just quick~!!

What’s bircher??

I do feel like eating but i bought some small vegetable juice cans put put in my gym bag just in case i over exert myself! Had some very nice Chai Tea the Stash brand … very nice, esp. with a bit of xylitol. Spending lots of money on nice and fancy teas and coffees. My sister bought me one of those Keurig coffee makers … and while its very expensive i feel it would be bad to put it away … so i look for sales and such. I still keep my regular small coffee maker handy.

Dr. Mosley is right when he says fast weight loss is very encouraging … i have felt like quiting but the results are just too grand~! It’s nice to fit nicely into clothes … even though some of my clothes will have to be donated to the Diabetes Assoc. clothes drive — they have a Value Village here that gives a good portion of the profits to the Diabetes Assoc. Value Village is like Goodwill or Salvation Army just more oranized, neat and a tad more expensive. I buy retail but i shop there too.

Looking forward to aquabics class with my sister tomorrow!

Good luck with the software release!!

Don’t muscles weigh more than fat …. and muscle development improves our shape, right!

Thanks Ruth
Are you still feeling hungry?
I never seem to really -if I get cravings, it’s more “I want” rather than “I need”! At the start of BSD I had to admit to myself that after stuffing myself too much for so many years, I had no real concept of what “hungry” actually felt like.

Night. (later than anticipated – I went to go to bed a while ago, then realised I’d stripped the bed earlier this afternoon to wash the bed linen, but had forgotten to remake it – or put the old stuff out to dry)

Knocked back as in “no Thank you, I’m not drinking” or knocked back as in drank it? 🙂

If you drank it, was it the wine itself that took you calories and weight up?
Are you sure your scales are fine – weigh yourself several times in quick succession and double check that the result on the scales remain consistent.
If not that, constipation or time of the month?

With that amount of exercise and 800 calories, gaining weight seems improbable!

Week 5 Day 1:

Breakfast: 2 x boiled eggs
Lunch: Lentil Soup
Dinner:
Snacks: Chocolate/Muffin
Drinks: 2 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 886
Carbs: 78g
Steps: 22504 (including 7km walk)
Weight loss: 400g (60.1kg)
Fast: 16 hrs

Week 4 Day 2:

Breakfast: 2 x boiled eggs
Lunch: Mushroom Soup
Dinner: Ratatouille & Baked Ricotta
Snacks: Lollies
Drinks: 2 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 849
Carbs: 34g
Steps: 34280 (including 6km walk)
Weight loss: 100g (60.8kg)
Fast: 16 hrs

Week 4 Day 3:

Breakfast: 2 x boiled eggs
Lunch: Lentil Soup
Dinner: Ratatouille & Baked Ricotta
Snacks: Lollies
Drinks: 2 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 751
Carbs: 27g
Steps: 29375 (including 6km walk)
Weight loss: +100g (60.9kg)
Fast: 16 hrs

Week 4 Day 4:

Breakfast: Lentil Soup & Cashews
Lunch:
Dinner: Ratatouille & Baked Ricotta
Snacks: Lollies/Chocolate
Drinks: 4 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 885
Carbs: 53g
Steps: 36095 (including 6km run & 9km walk)
Weight loss: 200g (60.7kg)
Fast: 16 hrs

Week 4 Day 5:

Breakfast: Scrambled eggs with cream & avocado
Lunch: Lentil Soup
Dinner:
Snacks: Lollies/chocolate
Drinks: 4 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 852
Carbs: 39g
Steps: 27491 (including 9km walk)
Weight loss: +100g (60.8kg)
Fast: 16 hrs

Week 4 Day 6:

Breakfast: Scrambled eggs with cream & rusk
Lunch: Lentil Soup
Dinner:
Snacks: Chocolate Biscuits
Drinks: 2 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 728
Carbs: 73g
Steps: 19390 (including 6km walk)
Weight loss: 300g (60.5kg)
Fast: 16 hrs

Week 4 Day 7:

Breakfast: 2 x boiled eggs
Lunch: Lentil Soup
Dinner: Lentil Soup
Snacks: Chocolate
Drinks: 4 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 880
Carbs: 73g
Steps: 26972 (including 7km walk)
Weight loss: 200g (60.3kg)
Fast: 16 hrs
Total Loss for week: 900g

Not a great week with snacking due to a four day conference which means I live on sugar too much. Managed to get exercise in though so that helps.

Ok this is getting annoying. Weight up this morning to 1.9. I walked over 12 k, 18000 steps yesterday, burning more energy than I ate. Was around 800 calories no problem..And the scales are up. This is getting very frustrating. Also survived work drinks yesterday and knocked back the wine. Humph. Hope everyone else is doing better than me!

Great news that you’re feeling better – and have confirmation of the appointment too.

JillF – hair. I find my hair and nails are really good, and I think it is the salmon, nuts and seeds I eat. Probably the avocado as well. – Now maybe this is why I do not lose so fast! Wonderful news about your blood sugar levels.

Lucky enjoy the wedding and stay well

Some-one mentioned chocolate. I am sure a little is good for you. I am not a choccy addict, so it is not too hard for me

Frog I want your blood pressure so I can come off meds.

I just read a fascinating book by a fellow Aussie David Gillespie called Sweet Poison about sugar and business and FRUCTOSE of course. If it is in the library read it. Very interesting ( He lost 40kg)

Night Yowzer – she’s normally getting sleepy by now, she’s full of beans after her walk and looking for mischief!

Claire that is fantastic weight loss. There are many threads about apparent plateaus and we have all had them. Your body is adjusting and you are probably making muscle as well – heavier than fat. Just browse some of the older forums and you will get reassuring news. I have had so many I have lost count, and have not lost anything like as much weight as you have. Don’t lose heart

Ruth

At work today, around 4pm, I really felt like eating just for the hell of it but staved off the feeling with a bottle of sparkling water. I was at Toastmasters this evening and had a diet coke, although I prefer to avoid pop altogether. Had a half hour walk at lunchtime.

Black coffee
No-carb bircher
Veg frittata
Beetroot falafels – it’s like having four cakes for tea!
Diet coke

I’m supporting a software release tonight from 2:30am which could make tomorrow a bit difficult. Luckily, I’ll be working from home for the rest of the day.

It’s funny how my mouth feels like it has been underused from not chewing food so much. A weird sensation.

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Night night,sleep sweet xx

greenjanet – thanks for kind words and many congratulations. I am thinking hard and realise I have not been this weight since about 1998, and a kilo in 3 weeks on any other diet would have had me whooping.

Frog you are an inspiration. What a reboot! I think I have been eating too much. Probably all the time, but the hunger thing was a bit hard.

Loopylou, great about the 10%. I am still not there which is one of the things that has annoyed me. I have been a pound off (.4 of a kilo) and then bounced up. But you lovely people will help me get there.

Krysia, you are another inspiration.

Indy 50 pounds – all I can say is wow

Verano enjoy your holiday. All will be well on your return. As Jan says we know we can do it now. What a change

Yowser thanks for all your wise advice

Ah sounds like Froglet had a lovely adventure on the roof garden!
Night night FROG n FROGLET
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I am glad you are feeling better young Izzy.

The fish was yum, thank you

Lewisfasters – some swear by weighing everything, I don’t. You can get an idea of portions and what it should be. And even if you were 900 a day it would have an impact – in the book MM says 800 was chosen as a good balance between speed of loss and having enough nutrients. So 800 a day might be a touch faster than 900, so if not weighing means some calorie creep each day then that is not end of the world.

If not weighing it all means easier to keep at it then I say don’t weigh, save some of your precious time. Chocolate is ok if high coca content so allow yourself some of that.

I got in and the laptop had decided to update windows – no ‘did I want to?” – two hours to complete.
Took Froglet up to the roof garden – I’ve tried to a couple of times recently, and she’s had a hiss fit about it, so I slipped the harness on when she wasn’t expecting it.
Once up there she loved it and wouldn’t come down again – an hour and a half shuffling round very very slowly while she sniffed every square inch.

Hi Verano
I’m in Australia and I’ve had a lot of success with the app EasyDietDiary to log everything I eat. It has a lot of our local foods.
Cheers
Linda

Need some motivation!!! I have lost an amazing 11lbs over 2. weeks 3 days. I’ve started craving chocolate since starting work again after school hols (im a teacher) , im knackered and stressed. 10-12 hr work days are taking their toll and I’m starting my emotional relationship with crap food!!!! I’m finding weighing everything time consuming..,……. I have so little of it! I love the food tho

Great advice. Thanks.
I ordered the book today, should have by the weekend. I definitely need to read it as have been a little confused.
I’ll get to grips with it, I’m sure. I’ll keep you posted!