Hey BillingeBabe…What Jazzista said! And it was potatoes, not a carton of Ben & Jerry’s Chunky Monkey with a side of double creme-filled Oreos. (Having some hallucinatory detox pangs here, lol!) But seriously, I get it. Our self control is so tenuous that at times we fail to recognize ourselves as the Warrior Women we are: we’re quick to condemn a “slip,” but slow to credit getting back up. I suspect learning to celebrate ourselves in the moment is something we’ll all learn as we make this journey. No more ANTs! (That’s Dr. Daniel Amen’s pet term for Automatic Negative Thoughts.) 🙂

Hi All,

I’ve been calorie counting for a while – 2014 I lost 30 kg/66 pounds. I experienced the dreaded re-gain of about 14 kg/30 pounds middle of this year. I went back to seriously counting calories and had shifted around 8 kg/17 pounds in about three months.

I haven’t lost motivation but I am worried I will, it was tough to lose weight the first time around, I am finding the mental game much harder the second time around.

That is why I am now switching to BSD – for over-all health but also to motivate me to get firstly back to my original 30 kg loss but also I want to get to the middle of my healthy BMI which means I still need to lose about 12-14 kg/26-30 pounds.

Stats:
Height: 153 cm/5 foot nothing!
Age: 46
Gender: See user-name 🙂
Calorie counting re-start July: 73 kg

BSD start 9th October: 64.50 kg
Weigh-in today: 63.15 kg
Loss 1st week of 1.35 kg / 3 pounds

I am very happy with this first week loss. I will try to keep coming back to this thread to update my journey (yes, I am one of those awful people who call it a journey – but for me it really is!) I also post on an Australian calorie counting site with a similar user-name 😉 that site is great for the actual mechanics of calorie counting (diaries/charts etc) but not a lot of traffic so I hope to be fairly active on these forums as I go along the 8 weeks, or 7 weeks now.

Cheers!

Hi Lakhi

Yes, I do not count carbs AT ALL!

Just the cals does it for me.

I don’t normally eat much bread, but they are such small slices, I couldn’t fit my 1/2 avocado in!

I have lost weight since I started – I started off on the 5:2 diet and have just switched over to the BSD.

Hi all – Glad to have found this group. I’m 68 on paper but 28 in my head..or less. I’ve had a great life so far and want to keep it going. Without medication! Anyway, I need to lose about 5 stone (how did that creep up, you might ask???) But it is what it is.

I’ve been on the BSD for 6 days and have so far lost an amazing 7 pounds. I fully expect it to slow, but until it does I’m going hell for leather!

One of the things I wanted to do was to do this 8 weeks to see if it could be done without gnawing your arm off or grizzling every five minutes. So far, so good, but am a little edgy at times. Also, my husband is diabetic and I am testing the waters at least through the different food menus which I feel sure will help him. I don’t think he would do the 800 but possibly the 5:2. Early days yet, so we shall see.

Looking forward to chatting with you all again.

Hi californiagirl
Just going through this week’s posts and found yours. I will look into that book you mentioned. My carbs thus far have ranged between 11 and 35 per day . I track the calories and the Fatsecret program has all the other values so I am not going demented working this stuff out.
Thanks for the tip about that book.

For example I’m on ketogenic diet for a while, and i use a low carb cookbook everyday. I like and recommend it because it has over 370 recipes with macros, nutritional informations. A 12 week meal plan, and several bonuses. Here is a review of said book: http://tastyketo.com/keto-cookbook/

Hang in there, Billingebabe! It’s only a pothole in the road. Just get right back on! You can do this, and it’s worth it!
Jazz

Hi soosiewoosy
I read your lunch and dinner selections with interest. I tend to have chicken and salad or prawns and salad most days, with 1 teaspoon of oil/vinegar dressing. I really must try to branch out bit. The dinner one sounded good too, so I will work on expanding my menus.

I Loved your post- especially the bit about 56 days. In my notebook I have a date, Day 1 through Day 56 . I kind of thought by seeing the actual number of days it would help. Just coming to the end of day 6 and am on track. Most days slightly over 800 but not by much. Good news is 7 lbs down so far so I’m pretty happy about that.

I look for things to substitute for eating… reading, cleaning , wait for it – ironing!

One thing I have noticed is that I am slightly edgy.. normally I am a happy camper but I have had the grizzles. I bought myself a coffee cup that says on one side: “I’m SORRY for what I said When I was HUNGRY”. and on the other side says:” han-gry adj. a state of anger caused by lack of food creating irrational and erratic emotion.” That cheered me up a bit so at least I could laugh at myself.

Lol I have heard that jar of marbles thing described a bit differently. You only need one jar. For the first five years of marriage, put a marble in the jar every time you are intimate with your partner. After the first five years, take one out every time you are intimate. You will never run out!

Good morning Day Seven! We’ve nearly completed a whole week!

I weighed the same as yesterday, I have make sure I don’t get upset by down, down, same, up, down because that is how it’s always going to be! If I can’t handle it I’ll switch to weekly weighing. It can be frustrating when you don’t lose weight every single day when you’re eating so few calories. But usually I can accept daily fluctuations as interesting.

Today’s plan:
B: bacon, cucumber, tomato
L: roast beef and veges
D: family dinner at sister-in-law’s, assuming I feel well enough

Obviously the family dinner could be tricky, I’m still feeling tired and sore and I’m not sure I’m up to it physically or socially. And I don’t know what she will serve, it’s easy when it’s “family style” as they call it in the US, serve yourself from big platters because I can take what and how much I want. But sometimes it will be individual plates piled high with mashed potato or something. And they can be very insistent on dessert. (I can be just as determined saying no thank you.) Today I can use the operation as an excuse for not eating much, anyway!

We take in turns cooking each week, it’s easier for me when I cook!

I have some goals for the week. I’ve done very well cutting out all the things BSD doesn’t allow, but I need to add in some healthy habits.
* two serves of fish this week (had one in first week). I’m not a huge fan and my husband and daughter won’t eat seafood at all so it’s an effort to include it, but I know it’s healthy
* two serves of healthy carbs like quinoa or lentils. I’ve been sticking to just veges so far but MM uses a lot of these things in his recipes. I love quinoa so I’ve scheduled that in, bit worried about keeping carb count down!
* 30 min walk every day instead of occasionally, dependant on my recovery of course
* at least two sessions of listening to one of my meditation apps.

Anything I haven’t covered?

Have a great Sunday, wherever you are!

Hi Soosiewoosy,
Sounds like a very satisfying day. Just wanted to ask how many carbs for the day with the two soy and linseed breads and petit pois? Are you having success focussing on calories only?

Do you like making lists? I like making lists. Here is a list of my results.

Week 1: -8.2lbs
Week 2: -5.4lbs
Week 3: -1.8lbs
Week 4: -2.6lbs
Week 5: -3lbs
Week 6: -1.2lbs
Week 7: -6.4lbs
Week 8: -0.2lbs

Having dieted for 20 years I decided to follow Mr. Mosley BSD diet. It seems to be similar to Montignac diet which worked for me in my youth times.

I solely promise (to myself) to start HITT sessions – starting 1 a week and increase as it goes.

I also decided to weigh/measure monthly so will hopefully notice some change. Posting results here should give me some motivation!

I will come back on 15th November with the results.

Mmm – not a good weekend so far. Friday night with a neighbour who drinks and it would have been so rude ……… Today did a chicken, chorizo, onion, pepper and tomato tray bake – included potatoes for Mr BB and some slipped onto the wrong plate. But I grew the potatoes and wanted so much to see if they were ok! Actually they were pretty boring compared with the rest of the veg.
So back on to hard BSD (As opposed to hard Brexit which is going to do so much of us harm; hard BSD is all good)

Um, new to posting too. Thanks for the info Mixnmatch!

Lovely idea. Thanks. Birdie

Thanks Frog. Really helpful, I Googled sirtuin activators and some of my favourite things are on the list! So raisins because they a dried red grapes, so that’s good, and I will take it that apricots and dates are the same. So, everything in moderation, but these will now be part of my home made meusli type breakfast that I am experimenting with making. It might even make it to the recipes page one day.
Birdie

Apologies for not posting sooner.
Did the diet reverse my diabetes – almost definitely not. I lost 15% of my total body weight which continued to drop to approx 17.5% even after I had stopped dieting. In fact I am presently having trouble trying to put weight back on. My HbA1c dropped from 49 mmol/L to 41 mmol/L i.e. into the normal range but this may have been a reflection of the diet’s necessarily restricted calorie intake. Nevertheless, the weight loss probably helped and I have no regrets about following the diet which proved to be fairly easy.
My objective at present is to prevent my blood glucose levels from spiking too much or to at least maintain a relatively normal levels for the vast majority of the time. This should protect the beta cells in my pancreas and even enable them to rejuvenate.
I perused some of the diabetic forums and was heartened to read that dropping blood glucose levels fairly significantly shouldn’t present a major problem. I found the following web pages particularly informative.
All removed in case it infringes copy write. Apologies but there are some really humpy people on some of the forums and I cannot take the chance.

I also came across an interesting article in which you may be interested. It was on the Mendosa.com website and was entitled ‘Controlling the Dawn Phenomenon’. The article refers to several studies in professional literature which clearly show that vinegar or lemon juice can reduce blood sugar levels. In at least one study for people with a typical fasting blood glucose level of more than 7.2 mmol/L vinegar helped reduce fasting blood glucose by 6%! As a consequence I consumed 2 tablespoons of lemon juice before retiring and my fasting blood sugar levels matched my lowest fasting reading to date at that time – 6.2 mmol/L. I have since carried out a series of tests using 2 tablespoons of cider vinegar together with a little cheese and my mean waking blood sugar level has dropped from an average of 6.7 to 6.2 over 20 tests – not statistically valid, I know, but very encouraging!
I was given a Verio blood meter (Blood Glucose Meter Accuracy Comparison (Chart)
https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/2013/07/blood-glucose-meter-accuracy-comparison-chart/) by the chemist and as per the advice gleaned from the above web sites I attempted to identify which foods my body could tolerate. I found that even 10 grams – one tablespoon of dried porridge spikes my blood sugars into glucose intolerance as does even one slice of bread! This has proved to be a useful exercise and by avoiding both bread and porridge my bloods are virtually now all within the normal range. I attempt to achieve a blood count of below 8 mmol/L after the first hour and, if possible under 7 mmol/L after the second. I believe that the World Heath Organisation, the National Institute of Clinical Excellence and the American Diabetes Association target is below 7.8mmol/L by the end of the second hour.
The only thing that I and most diabetics seem to have to avoid are processed grains and the obvious sugar laden drinks and food. I can eat as much fruit, meat, fish, vegetables and drink as much alcohol etc as I like within reason.
I recognise that this post is extremely brief but diabetes is such a wide subject and while this is only a glimpse I am afraid that I am presently pushed for time. Nevertheless, and also of potential interest, if you are not already aware of it, a trial was successfully undertaken to reverse diabetes in rats – referenced on the Mendosa website. A cure is probably in the pipeline at some stage if we can all hold out long enough!
Best wishes and thanks for the initial input.
Lynn’s husband.

Skipped Breakfast this morning, so this is how the rest of the day went…

Lunch
Avocado sandwich made with half an avocado and 2 slices Vogel’s soya and linseed bread TOTAL 333 cals

Dinner
8 week blood sugar diet – Skinny aubergine lasagne, 1 cup 200 cals
Cauliflower Cheese, 330 g 250 cals
Tesco – Freshly Frozen Petit Pois, 50 g 31 cals
TOTAL 481 cals

GRAND TOTAL 814 cals

Skipped cake and custard, not really my scene, anyway!

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fruits

I’ve posted this before, but I find it really useful
I have it on the kitchen wall along with the vegetable one from the same site

So I’m not the only one that I keeps looking on rails in shops then find I’m looking at 20s and 22s!
And how come when I wanted those sizes, I couldn’t get them, but every clothes rail I’ve looked at recently is devoid of size 16!

I got home and chucked all my stuff in the washing machine, and put on a pair of rarely worn leggings that I bought to wear under work trousers a few years ago when it was exceptionally cold. They are loose, but surprisingly comfortable and flattering with a large top.
I’m almost starting to see the point of jeggings!

Wow – 13lbs already, that’s terrific, well done !

Very well done on both your three stones Yowzer and Frog, those are fantastic losses.
Very rainy start to the weekend here but had a nice day out anyway in town which involved plenty of walking. So pleased that I don’t get sore feet after walking like I used to when I was heavier.
Family visiting for lunch tomorrow. But they like a roast dinner on Sunday so that is quite easy to work around. No potatoes on my plate and I won’t even feel deprived because I never really liked potatoes very much anyway 😄
Then on Monday I might have a push for extra calorie strictness for a while. I’m only a few pounds away from 3st off myself so I feel quite inspired by other people getting there.
I really feel that my capacity to eat anything beyond a modest portion has changed. I’ve read people mention that on a few of the threads but hadn’t experienced it much myself until the last week or ten days. Which seems almost strange, given that I have been doing this WOE for slightly more than 15 weeks now and the last 4 or 5 weeks have been at a slower loss/slightly higher calorie type of pace. But I definitely notice a ‘could not face another morsel’ type fullness quite regularly now. Another win I reckon as it would have been much larger quantities to get that reaction at one time 😊

Congrats on the 4lbs lost.
I have 73 lbs to lose – so a long way to go. Actually, now I have 66 & a half pounds to lose – yipee.
But this plan seems great, and the forums really help too. Thanks for your encouragement.

Love this thread because there is so much truth and humor in these experiences! I had the funny experience recently of needing some jeans to wear on a trip to Northern Ireland and I had not pulled any jeans out of the closet for at least four months as California has been suffering drought and heat (we are just dessicated.) I pulled a favorite pair of dark green pants out that I wore all the time last winter and shook them out and they seemed so…well, big…you know, visually, in my hands. So I slipped them on and they fell off, literally at least two sizes too big — they were not fixable in any way, no belt could cover up the crotch sagging to my knees and the “saddle-bags” on the thighs — I had to race out and buy all new pants to go on the flight the next day — so the word to the wise is, check your old clothes well before your trip date or you could be surprised! But here’s the weird psychological thing to the experience — I was looking at these pants and thinking, jeez, how big was I? I couldn’t remember that I was that big, I never felt that big even though I know I was fat but wow, I WAS pretty fat! What a laugh in retrospect, now seven months down the road and 10 inches smaller at my waist (with that number, how could I have thought otherwise? ) I think I am still mentally adjusting to the smaller me! And Bissell and bluejeans, same thing with my tummy — I no longer have it lying on the bed beside me!😜😜

I had aglass of wine tonight, lovely. Can we eat the odd piece of fruit, I do miss it. Feeling very lightheaded and faint in the mornings. Is this normal. Pleased ewith weight loss. 10lbs so far, and feel slimmer around tummy. Loving all the recipes.

I am not sure it helps demystify anything, but dates, particularly medjool dates, grapes, and I think raisins have different properties when eaten than other higher sugar fruit due to their Sirtuin activators. I tend to use them in preference to fruits that do not have this advantage, as they have been linked to speeding up rather than slowing the metabolism. I think apricots and apples are also relatively rich in activators.

I have just bought the BSD recipe book, and looked at the store cupboard list for dried fruit and found apricot and dates recommended. Then in the fruit page 192 grapes are listed as low sugar, and dates and raisins can be used as sweeteners. I am really confused! Either these fruits are high sugar (as listed in other GI type diets) or they are not high sugar. As fruit is probably the rogue source of my high blood sugar that I was completely oblivious about, I need to understand the role of fruit in the BSD in order to get my eating habits right. Can anyone demystify this for me, please?

I’ve just discovered that my mini chopper makes cauliflower rice!
I’ve made it in the large food processors at the cookery school kitchen (there’s always someone to wash up there!), but at home I’ve always bought it pre-riced. I do have a big food processor, but such a hassle to get it down, but there wasn’t any in this afternoons supermarket.
My mini chopper has been fine; I had to do it in two separate lots per portion to give it enough space to chop it all small.
I’ve riced half a cauliflower and will put half of that in the fridge for tomorrow.

Sainsbury’s have started doing riced beetroot which I’m going to try. It’s carbier (9g per 100g), but I think is should look nice mixed in with cauliflower.

Glad you are doing well Natalie, be kind to yourself and make a speedy recovery. xx

Tattiescone, Christmas is coming fast, love IT!! We can all be farther on our journey by then.

We mustn’t slip back to old ways, we want to feel good this Christmas. We are learning more about our eating everyday, keep the new habits going. xx

Sleep tight everyone xx

Sorry for this but both my husband and I have been on BSD forever nearly a fortnight are really loving it. We have both lost weight, him 13lbs and me 11 so are chuffed to bits!

However we are both really suffering with severe trapped wind and bloating. Very very uncomfortable and is not being relieved by the obvious! Is this because of the change in diet and will settle down? We are being very strict and using MFP to log carbs etc. Any help would be so appreciated – I’m hoping for my waist to shrink not swell!

Thanks Yowzer 😀

Wonderful to get bargains FROG! Trousers sound specially good! 👍🏻 and i LOVE having nice socks! X

Made the courgetti and meatballs last night, was easy enough to make but i found the meatballs a bit lacking, not sure what but definitely lacking in something. Loving the carbonara recipe though.

Think i’ll try the turkey burgers and the chicken and mushroom pie this week, we’ll see.

Hi Yowzer
It’s not lacking motivation exactly – I’m just beginning to think that logging everything is making me slightly obsessive – well more obsessive about food that I ever was when I was eating too much.
I still have a lot of weight to loose, so hopefully will continue to go down even of slowly – I just feel I’ve learned quite a lot from the last few months logging everything on MFP/Fatsecret, and I should be able to keep to BSD style eating and continue to consume less calories that I use.
It will be an interesting experiment to see how well I do without the manic recording of everything I eat.
I will keep logging on here though – keep a sense of still doing BSD!

& thanks, I slept really well last night.

Excellent, well done Yowzer
I’m similar with the 3 stone – always very nearly there, so I say 3 stone if anyone asks, but not absolutely!

I used my Nordic poles for the first time this afternoon – I found excellent free parking near Hampstead Heath too.
It was nice an sunny to start with – then stopped for a pot of tea at Kenwood and it started chucking it down, but it was only about 15 minutes back in the rain.
I was pleased because I got straight back into the rhythm of walking with the poles – amazing how much distance I covered in about an hour, then twenty minutes back to the car.

I stopped on the way home to go to a supermarket, went into a pound shop and found the perfect storage pots for things like sesame seeds and pine nuts, I’ve been looking for ages. Sadly they only had one pack left, and one pot was missing, but I figured they were still good value at 3 for £1.
There’s also a really cheap clothes store that has 95% complete rubbishy stuff, but I look in from time to time because they also get labels (cut out but you can still work out whose with most of them) like M&S & Esprit. I bought a pair of M&S trousers for £5 instead of £35, and some really nice socks.

Thanks for that FROG..its v helpful X simplified things for me.
Igot weighed today in Boots fully dressed and post lunch..at last have broken the 3 stone barrier..the last few pounds seemed terribly slow! So,a m thinking may have lost a bit over 3 stone coz wearing warm clothes and with food and drink in tum! X
Hows everyoens weekend going?

SCHNITZEL you have done so well on BSD! And like you said, i too an no longer addicted to carbs..its a great feeling isnt it!
And i love yr jars idea! X

HI SCHNITZEL ! Thanks for reminding me..i meant to ask TIMMY what he meant!
TIMMY!..could you possibly be Timmy the Dog in the Enid Blyton Famous Five stories?🤔
Or like Schnitz said,are you simply named Timothy? ” Language Timothy!” ..did you ever see that on tv!😄X

I have just had a comment that I look 10 years younger – not sure I felt I looked 10 years older in the first place (I’m 41) !!

OH YOU EVIL EVIL 👹👹👹👹WOMEN FOR MENTIONING LINDT BALLS😱😱😱😜

I can’t stand the suspense, Timmy. Is your name Timothy????

I think it is physically impossible to only eat just one
Lint chocolate ball I think they are my worst food item that once started I cannot stop

And…I put my jars on the mantelpiece. No avoiding them then.

Thanks Jmarie. Allow me to bore you a little by explaining my patented motivational marble system…You actually need two jars. In one jar put the marbles/pounds you wish to lose. Your other jar will be empty at the beginning but will soon fill up as you transfer each pound lost. Some people like to make their jars fancy with ribbons and labels. I didn’t because I am not fancy. What happens when you are halfway though and you might mix up your jars, I hear you say? Pick a special, extra pretty and distinctive marble to act as a marker. Or you could label your jars. If you are fancy. Maybe I will add some ribbon…or glitter would be nice!

Here are some examples

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=weight+loss+jars&client=ms-android-motorola&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqg-LHrN3PAhVlLMAKHbUgAfoQ_AUICCgC&biw=360&bih=512

Ok, not quite as strict as I had intended – had to finish off the dessert! About 950 calls and 45 carbs for the day. We are off out later but I will stick to soda water, I’m driving anyway.

Had another interesting one later on, walking towards my OH tonight in town, he looked straight at me from about 10-15 feet away and didn’t recognise me. I don’t really know what to feel about that!

CallMeDeb …. so happy that you got back to BSDing after the blackout!! Had one myself yesterday with the Lindt balls and yogurt and raspberries (waaaay to much of that).

Angiebabe …. one day at a time sounds great to me!!

To be honest I can’t live with time limits on mini-goals either. They are achieved when they are achieved, and not there to cause extra stress. I just like to cheer myself every now and then when crossing one of the little milestones on this extended journey of mine. I tracked them even before I joined this forum, just to award myself treats when hitting one. I have really just one time related goal, which is that I want to be the same weight I was when I got married by my 25th wedding anniversary next year. Slightly less than one and a half stone to go, and six months to do it in.