10 stone 5.0 this morning and was a little off plan again. Circumstances intervened so I missed badminton again, two days running 😣 and I am starting my holiday tomorrow, and today having a BBQ at work to celebrate breaking up so will be eating and drinking whatever is provided (though almost certainly without the bread). I didn’t quite make BMR on calories again but today will probably be a long way over, so I hope my body has recovered from the ‘fasting’. I think I will be stopping monitoring my diet closely for my entire two weeks holiday, as a bit of an experiment, after which I will return and report hopefully that I am back in my original comfort zone. I will be logging in intermittently only during the two weeks, as limited Internet access, so good luck again, and here’s to success at the end of your journeys, whatever your goals.

I don’t know what the presenters think but I love it, and used it intermittently throughout my weightloss period, along with cows milk and nut ‘milks’ for various uses. I love goats cheese as well. I think it is supposed to be lower in lactose and easier to digest than cows milk, but haven’t looked into benefits in any depth.

According to another one of Dr. Moseley’s TV shows, kefir is better than yogurt or even pharmaceutical pro-biotics for promoting gut health. It is full of over 20 different kinds of organisms. For some reason kefir is difficult to find and very expensive in the UK while here in Canada it is in the dairy section of every grocery store and at about the same price as yogurt.
You can make your own using kefir grains, which is some kind of symbiotic conglomeration of bacteria and yeasts that looks like clumps of fish eggs. You add it to milk and it turns into kefir in 12-24 hours at ordinary room temperature. If you take care of them they should last forever.
The grains are always multiplying so people generally are happy to share them so hopefully the use of kefir will spread and become more popular and cheaper in the UK.

Jan

Hi SunnyB, I can remember making labneh once, maybe 40 years ago, when I was also making my own yoghurt. Cannot recall now how I used it or even if I used it. I guess it wasn’t a success of I didn’t do it again. What do you use it with, SunnyB? In salads, snacks, or can you cook it like my favourite Haloumie?

Verano, I have read the CG book though in a very fitful way and intend to go through it again. Loaded with scientific information on different gut bacteria and their various actions/reactions but in Dr M’s easy style. Seems to answer some questions on what foods different people react to and why. Some of the recipes would be better suited to non-BSDers or, at least, those on maintenance. He does say in the book it is not specifically a weight loss diet although that may follow naturally.

ClarinetCathy, your dessert has made my mouth water☺

Have a great BSD day everyone xx

Thanks Sunshine-girl,

I’m pleased that i made my own humous tonight for tomorrow. Thanks for your advice, i made out a food plan & bought my food this afternoon.

Starting tomorrow with green eggs & ham, humous & veg for lunch & Thai chicken & caluflower rice tomorrow.

I’m going to try the B.S.D as need to shift belly fat fast! I bought bio oil & vitimin C so hopefully keep skin in good condition. I will try & drink 3 litres.

Good night & thank you.

Claire.

I would like to know if goats milk is allowed also 🙂

I’m 67 and have lost 47lbs (3st 5lbs) and am now maintaining. I really don’t have any problem with sagging skin – yes, of course I would like it to be a little tauter – who wouldn’t at 67, but I think any sag in my skin is down to age, not bsd and, truthfully, even if it were bsd, I would happily trade a few wrinkles for the new slender me☺

Thanks Nancy, I’m back and weighed. I stayed the same which I suppose I should be happy about but I really stuck to the low carbs thing all week and had a lot more exercise cycling etc. 🙁
The only treat I had all week was an all fruit ice lolly on the last day, I always ordered the salad without dressing and never ate so much as one chip!
The only thing I didn’t worry about was portion size, I thought surely a plate of salad doesn’t need counting?
So a little peed off I just ate a bowl of muesli 😋 I know naughty but back on it tomorrow.
Loss so far 6.5lbs and 2 inch off waist (I was bloated at first measurement)

How are you doing? Sober week? 😁

Oh yeah and I weighed myself today and have lost 4lb already! I know it’s water weight etc but yay!

Thank you! Seems like a friendly forum.

So my reason for doing this is – overweight apple shape with family history of diabetes!

First three days have been relatively easy but I’ve got this far before. I’ve tried to prepare as much as possible this time with lots of research and planning.

I’m using MFP to track calories and trying to focus on eating delicious stuff.

Starting weight 15 stone 2 pounds (I’m 5’4″). I’ve lost a stone over the last 10 months (mainly due to giving up added sugar for 6 weeks). I’ve basically yoyoed since the age of 13 though.

Hello all. Wonderful to catch up on all of your successes and stickability moments when facing, and overcoming, temptation. What a strong bunch of deserving individuals you all are. In fact, there is so much positivity on this thread and you are such a supportive bunch, that when I am faced with temptation (still have desperate carb cravings over last few days despite successful first two weeks) I think of all of you spurring each other on and jump on your positivity wave. So thank you all for that (big virtual hugs and smiles all round).
On reflection, my feelings of hunger were down to not drinking enough water so I have upped my intake again (even though it means multiple trips to the loo!)
Have a good week everyone; to those who show themselves and those who visit unspoken.
M xxx

Hey Theamazingshrinkingwoman – welcome! As you probably gather, if you have read any of the threads on the forum, you probably realize that we like to waffle on here, both to help inspire others and ourselves. It’s a safe place to vent when things are going badly and to celebrate even the smallest success and we like to provide encouragement and support wherever we can.

So feel free to join any of the threads that appeal to you. If you want to search for a particular topic, use the search box at the top of the page, as lots of topics have been covered. If you can’t find something in particular, shout out though, as someone will respond for sure.

Hope you will soon be posting positive results. Keep up the good work and best of luck on your quest.

It is pretty much all diary section if you don’t mind others occasionally butting in 😁 There are several group threads where people who start at the same time gather to share their experiences, there are challenge threads for those who have been doing it longer and want to change things up or focus on different areas, and of course there are the victory threads, like Target weight, 100 club and the mini-goals threads for non scale as well as scale victories. If you use the search box at the top you can jump into any that appeal to you, and by all means keep your diary here, and if you have any questions just ask them, and someone will usually be able to help.

I’ll definitely try making some of that cheese, maybe with some of my homemade yoghurt. I quite like the idea of the flavourings as well, very like proper cottage cheese.

3rd day done and all going well. An very hungry right now but have gone to bed ridiculously early to get away from food. Already feeling thinner!

Is there a diary section on this forum or shall I just waffle on here? 😉

Oh Lee, I wish you had an answer. But no news is good news. I had my gallbladder removed when I was 30. It was the first of many scars that criss-cross my stomach. So even though I was only 10 stone, I couldn’t wear a bikini. I think it was the beginning of my self esteem issues, though people who meet me don’t know I have any!
If I could make money out of lending Jovis out, I probably wouldn’t lol…it has taken me years to train him lol. Dinner was indeed lush, and my calories today come in at 796. So result all round.

Love
Nonna Mary
xxx

Mary, I think you need to lend me Jovis. That dinner sounds lush and just what I fancy!!!

So, had my ultrasound today and though she’s not the reporter, the technician saw my NHS badge so was fairly forthcoming with what she saw… which was absolutely nothing!

A little bit of gravel in the gallbladder but it’s not inflamed, so nowt to worry about. Even my liver doesn’t look pickled (which is surprising!) However, it does mean still no answer on my electrolyte issue. Arrgghh!!

L xx

Hi Hughsey34 – I’ve just realised I’ve been calling you Hughsey38 – I am so sorry – my brain must be pickled through lack of carbs!

Keep at it indeed Jan – that’s good going – great going in fact! Hope you feel better soon though. Yesterday’s steps 10,503 thanks to you and your dog. I’m baby sitting today and finished off the litttle one’s soup – tut tut.

Hi Hughsey38 – feel for you – but the good thing is that if it carb related that will stop soon. Good luck.

Just had a delicious after dinner dessert- a piece of Lindt 85% dark chocolate with six plump juicy raspberries and a few toasted seeds- blooming delicious with a cup of coffee!

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Good Luck FFBB.

Please forgive me girls…..but can I gloat for just one post. I went to the pub on my way back from my lovely daughter and her ******* husband and I had a …..LEMONADE…..then I went home. I am feeling very righteous. Okay, gloat over.

About to have, Steak, onion and Mushrooms, with Broccoli, sprouts, courgettes and cabbage, in a cheese sauce. All cooked by Jovis…who says you can’t have it all.

By for now.
Saintly Nonna Mary
xxxx

If only! I am 51 currently and was 49 when I started this way of eating just before my actual birthday last year. Having said that, the Boditrax measurements I had recently pegged my metabolic age at 35, which was quite pleasing.

Day 25 in the BSD house.

Managed another day on the BSD, It’s not getting any easier but I am doing my very best. One day at a time.

Is it possible that having 2 days of “over eating” has kick-started my appetite and I now have to reset it to lower calories again?

Either way I am on top of it.

Right, now it’s time for the Martha years (Doctor Who) and fingers crossed we don’t get the oncoming storm.

FFBB X

If you are looking for high protein snacks to have while walking around, my favourites are biltong (only the really good stuff), pork scratchings/rind (again only really good stuff with no carbs/additives), edamame beans and the old favourites Baby-bel cheeses or similar.

Hi Grima004 – if you feel like an extra boost, I can absolutely recommend the Clever Guts diet book – it has totally changed the way I think about food! I agree with Baristagirls that the BSD book is probably the best for guidance on how to ‘do’ the diet, but Clever Guts is like the final piece of the jigsaw.
Good luck whatever you decide.
SSB

ClarinetCathy, you mentioned being bored with your food … you might find this thread interesting “7 Days to Renew your Enthusiam for BSD 11th July 2017”. Started by Verano, brilliantly as usual, for just this reason.

Good deal with the shorts topcac😊

Theodora, please! A little more confidence in yourself is warranted with what you have already achieved. Your BBQ so you have your choice of food and wine from which you may, and can, choose judiciously. This is where I’m missing Maharani kitten, I think she would have read you the riot act 😼

Wish you’d get to work on that formula, Natalie. Thanks in advance😀

SueBlue, you’re so right, we do all struggle at times and it is so very good to see that we’re all hanging in instead of doing what we would have done previously …i.e go off course and stay off! Just give up. Now, we acknowledge what happened and get back in gear. This forum, and all you wonderful posters, have done that for me, a typical yoyo dieter for a very long time. Absolutely grateful.

‘night all xx

Good for you green Janet! I felt great yesterday but have horrific migraine today. Hoping it’s just coincidence and not to do with carb cutting- fingers crossed 😞

Claire, unless those are flaxseed crackers or a similar alternative, you should ditch them. Tzatziki can be problematic as well if it’s ready made. Read the label to be sure there are no added sugars and that the sugars that are naturally in there from the yogurt and cucumber aren’t too high for your daily carb intake.

Good luck!

When I read your post, Topcac, it made me smile because all the things you ate- I LOVE and It seemed to me to be the best blow out ever! Sometimes the guilt we feel afterwards is so much worse than the blow out itself. You’ve got it all out of your system now and hopefully will be ready to draw a line under the episode and move swiftly on. A lot of us have had a bad week this week so let’s hope that the coming week is better for us all. Keep going everyone.

I had a delicious lunch today – 4 little gem lettuce leaves with hummus and roasted peppers and pine nuts from the book- so delicious and felt like I was eating a little sandwich. Yesterday I had two boiled eggs and that was so boring! I am going to look for some new food ideas because I realise now that I am getting really bored with the same old ideas. Keep going everyone!

Hi Claire – you shouldn’t need to worry – I’ve lost 2st 4lbs and I’ve had no problems at all – and I’m the wrong side of 40 – by quite a way!

Hi everyone,
I’m 44. I’m 2.5 stone over my idea weight. I have 2 Children 10 & 8. I have a few stretch marks from having children.

I will try more water, vitamin c & use cream or oil on my skin.

Going to supermarket now for food. On week one lunch is thin crackers & tzastziki.

I will take my measurements tonight & let you know how my first day goes.

Thanks for advice

Claire. 💞

Feeling the love guys – thank you

I got a headache after about 21 hours of fasting so I had some lunch, mexi platter with a few jalapenos flung in. It’s so lovely, as is all the BSD food. Really I have no idea why I’d want to eat crap! I also had two squares of 85% chocolate that lives in my drawer at work for emergencies. 🙂

Tonight is Moroccan meatballs with cauliflower rice and then I should be very much on track. Ready for a weekend at my parents – oh Lord – another challenge coming up. I think it’s the summer – it’s temptation after temptation. Seriously I have not a single weekend free until the middle of September. It’s a lovely problem but boy does it test one’s resolve lol.

However, I have been wearing a pair of shorts this week that I bought 10 years ago. They still had the tags on. I have never been able to wear them as I have always been too big in the summer. Not so this year. Wearing them with pride. Clinging to the non scale victories for grim death!

Don’t know if it helps, but I’m almost at goal weight and have lost just over 2st and whilst there is some slight wrinkling and crinkling in some areas, there isn’t any huge amounts of sagging skin and I am confident I look a hell of a lot better than I did before. I wouldn’t worry about a tiny extra bit of skin, what’s important is your general health, which will be improved by following the BSD.

Have a great holiday and wish you every success on the BSD when you start.

Although you have worded this question as if it is personal to you and your well being, I see this is research for your online business and you have an interest in low carb meals. I am diabetic so aiming for low blood sugar so might not be much help with your hypoglycaemic problems. But, if my BG goes too low I usually eat a few prunes and some Greek yoghurt trying to avoid the high carb loading I used to do before BSD. I was always told by doctor to have something like bread and honey or sweet fruit juice but that went against me trying to lose weight. I would do exercise, go low, eat and no weight loss so this way is better for me. I also try to time my exercise to suit mealtimes so I am not doing a run just before dinner etc. If you want to find low carb diets there are lots of other web sites (so may not be a business interest that many have not already taken on). Start with recipes on this site or look at Nomnom paleo, then there is thedietdoctor.com. But remember if you want to publish recipes you have to acknowledge they are not your own.

Claire – you have a relatively small amount (2st) to lose so I don’t think you should worry about loose skin. If you had 4 or 5 stone to lose then perhaps you should worry.

Mixnmatch – possibly you have age on your side, you don’t say how old you are. If you are the right side of 40 then that is probably why your skin has shrunk back with the weight loss. I lost alot of weight when I was around 42, getting into size 12 jeans, and I was very lucky and my skin snapped back into place. Alas for me now I am 57 now and have to admit that loose skin is going to be a problem. Dr. Mosley does suggest taking a good multi-vitamin each day – Vitamin C promotes elasticity and collagen – so I think that’s a good idea. On all those ‘The Biggest Loser’ TV programmes from America almost always the dramatic weight loss is accompanied by a visit to a surgeon to remove the resulting loose and sagging skin no matter how young the person is. Think it does depend on your age, genetics and the amount of weight loss.

Hey Charlie W – Welcome aboard the BSD ‘fun bus’!

Other have identified issues with the calorie counts on recipes in the book too and have flagged these on the forum before. I have personally never followed these, but have always done my own thing, as many others have too, however, a lot of people use the recipes and meal plans as per the book and still lose weight successfully. It is entirely up to you how you decide to apply the BSD going forward.

I hope whatever you decide to do, you will soon be reporting positive results … Good Luck.

Hi everybody!
Weekly weigh-in last evening at WeightWatchers, lost 2.5lb, so now weigh exactly 16st 0lb (start weight 1st Feb 17st 8lb). Bit disappointed I was hoping for a bit more off and being down in the 15s. Hopefully next week I’ll be 15st something.
Trying to drink more water, been reading about hot weather and weight gain due to fluid retention.
Thai green chicken curry tonight with cauliflower rice.
This time next year I’ll be in size 14 jeans and looking reasonably slim!!!! Lol!
Keep going everybody!
Nancy x

Hi again Claire, I am assuming you are going to do the BSD 800 as you posted in Welcome to the BSD. If you are doing 5;2 or Med you have a little bit more leeway when it comes to ‘good’ carbs.

Theodora, remember that the carbs hang on to water, so those 3lb are probably mainly water retention. I was off piste twice last week and the 3lb I gained, was disposed of in a few days by upping fluid intake to ensure the water retention shifted and extending my overnight fasts. So don’t panic about the apparent reduction in your wriggle room – good margin by the way, hope I can get there in the next couple of months – it’s probable most of that gained 3lb is water.

Has anyone tried making Labneh (a fresh cheese made from yogurt)? This is so easy to do and is yummy.

Use a strained yogurt – a nice thick greek style yogurt is ideal – season well with salt/pepper and add herbs/seeds/petals/citrus zest – whatever flavouring you like. I’ve use nigella seeds, rose petals, caraway (not all at the same time). Then line a colander with cheese cloth/muslin/a piece of clean cotton material and dump the yogurt mix in the middle. Gather up the edges of the cloth and tie to create a ball and then suspend over a bowl to catch the liquid. (I tie mine from a kitchen wall cabinet handle).

It will take about 16 to 24 hrs for the liquid to drip out (depending how wet the yogurt you use is) and for the Labneh to be ready, don’t let it dry out too much though, so it still has some moisture and creaminess. Test by gently squeezing the ball – it should still have some ‘squidge’ and some moisture should still be present when you do this. Once ready, you can remove the cheese from the cloth, put in an appropriate container and store in the fridge. It will last for approx. a week.

CCathy sorry to hear you are going through another plateau, it is hard to stay motivated for such a long period of time. I always think that 800 calories is fine for 8 weeks but extremely difficult to do long term. I have 900-1000 calories per day and it doesn’t seem to make much difference weight loss wise, but I find it easier to stick to.
My weight this week is the same as last week, but as I mentioned in another thread I’ve actually gained and lost almost 3kg this week! Must be fluid retention or something. I had a big loss about 4 weeks ago and went down to a new low…but have put some of that back on since then so trying to get back down again. When I look back over the 6 months though this seems to be a regular pattern for me. I’ll have a big Whoosh followed by a gain and then the weight gradually comes back down again. I’m averaging about 1.5kg loss per month, so I think it could easily be another 12 months before I get down to my goal weight. . Luckily I feel so much better following this WOE that I have no intention of giving up, no matter how slow the weight loss is!

Topcac, I am sorry you are feeling low, but I agree with SunnyB, please don’t punish yourself. Punishment and guilt are not part of this WOE – every day is a fresh start if you need one. I had a full on binge on Monday evening for absolutely no reason at all that I could discern, then felt bloated and nauseous and was up most of the night. Next morning I got up, confessed on here and moved on. I did have a very light eating day yesterday, (549 cals) not as punishment but because I felt so dreadful (physically) after the binge. Feeling fine now and today is a bright fresh day (though actually still very wet here!! Floods just down the road yesterday, and we had terrific thunderstorms and giant hailstones but luckily we are on high ground! Sorry, completely off-topic)

We all have your back, Topcac, and now you’ve confessed so just relax and move on. Hugs coming your way if you need them. x

Oh, and thanks SueBlue – yes we are all human and all slip up sometimes.

I did find the courage to weigh myself this morning and my maintenance wriggle room has been reduced to just 2lbs (down from 5lbs) so my binge did cause some damage. We are hosting a BBQ this evening (despite the horrendous weather😒) with food and wine aplently so I cannot imagine that the scales will be any kinder to me in the morning 🤔

I’m late to the party again this week, but not much to report anyway. I’m exactly the same weight as I was a week ago. That’s not to say the scales haven’t moved – on the weekend I was almost 3kg heavier! I have no idea how it is possible to gain and lose 3kg in a week, but there you go! It was my daughters birthday and we had a lunch out, where I had a few slices of vegetarian pizza, then a family roast lunch the next day with a few glasses of wine. I had one small potato and a mini Yorkshire pudding, some turkey, roast beetroot, roast cauliflower and a sliver of pavlova for dessert. Admittedly I did have another day or 2 where I didn’t keep my eye on the ball – not binge eating as such but eating more than I should.
I’ve been really busy both at work and at home and haven’t had time to do my usual BSD cooking and planning which hasn’t helped.
Anyway lesson learnt and hopefully I can get back on track this week.
Theodora – my first thought was that you are human! You’ve done so well so please don’t feel guilty about your one slip up 🙂
Topcac – hope you have a better week too this week.
It seems there are a few of us who haven’t had a good week – and it doesn’t seem to matter if it’s winter or summer, north or south hemisphere, we all struggle from time to time.

Hi,
I just joined the forum after purchasing the BSD Book and the 8 week BSD Recipe Book.

2 days before I bought the books, I had just made my own humus so know roughly the calories included in a serving so I was interested to see another recipe for Humus on page 71 of the Recipe Book. I thought the calorie count was rather low for the ingredients and quantities listed. It claims 4 servings at 210 Calories per serving.

I checked out the calorie count of the recipe at myfitnesspal.com and it confirmed that the actual calories per serving were 329, not 210.

These were the calories for the ingredients:
Chick Peas (Napolina Tinned), 400 g = 504 Cals
Lemon juice, raw, 3 tbsp(s) = 10 Cals
Sainsbury’s – Olive Oil – Extra Virgin, 6 Tbsp ( 1 Tbsp = 15ML, so 90ml) = 741 Cals
Tahini – Tahini, 4 tsp(s) = 40 Cals
Garlic, raw, 2 cloves = 8 Cals
Ground Cumin, 1 tsp = 7 cals
Spices, paprika, 1 tsp = 6 cals

Total Calories : 1,316
Cals Per Serving : 329

Per serving the 2 main ingredients are Olive Oil and Chick Peas. Chickpeas are 126 Calories per 100gm, Olive Oil is about 124 Calories per Tablespoon (15ml) so 1.5 tablespoons is 186 Calories, added together they far exceed 210.

Is there a typo on the quantities on the ingredient list in the Book?
Is the number of servings wrong?
I would say this recipe makes 6 servings at 220 calories rather than 4 servings at 210, so my advice would be amend the recipe and just eat less of it.

Although I am sure this recipe is fine, it does rather undermine my confidence in the calorie count of all the other recipes in the book, though I haven’t checked any others yet and this may be an exception, but perhaps the authors, editors and publishers of the book would like to take note.

It sounds like you have hit a really rough patch, but please stop beating yourself up Topcac, it’s counter productive and if you push the fasting too hard, there could be a danger of a backlash and things might spiral again. Allow yourself a normal BSD day and then try to stick to that through the rest of the week. Forgive yourself for being human, put the binge behind you and just try to get back on track again.

Lots of positive thoughts coming your way …

Ok so just tried the sauerkraut with a sprinkle of caraway seeds and they certainly lifted it. Although if was an improvement I feel like I’m eating it because ‘it’s good for me’! Has anybody read the ‘Clever Guts book? Does it fit well with BSD?

I was reading an article about bariatric surgery yesterday and the consultant said that no only did diabetes go into remission immediately, before weight loss happened, but that it also improved good gut bacteria. I don’t know if this link will work but it was in yesterday’s Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4704548/How-gastric-bypass-surgery-reversed-one-man-s-diabetes.html.