Hi everyone…!
How is everyone getting on?! I’ve just finished day 4 within calories and no booze!! I’m so proud of myself!!! I am 4lbs down and feeling good. I’m sleeping better, well apart from a storm keeping me awake last night and feeling better already…! Had a bit of a headache tonight so think they are kicking in but have brought myself up to bed to sleep it off. Other than that I am feeling great – even went to the pub last night and stuck to tonic water..!!

My question is though, can anyone recommend flat drinks in the evening that are low calorie – I love my tonic but it’s bloating me out and squash makes me feel like a 5yr old!! I have a cup of peppermint tea before bed but it’s too warm to drink tea all evening… anyone for any suggestions?

Sending love to all,
Rebecca xxx

Help! Alliecat, TM, anyone,
Seems like this whole forum has up and left.

If anyone has some answers I would love your thoughts. I lost 3kg in the first week down to 79.1 then went up to 79.3 and stayed there for three days and today down to 78.9. Is the slow in weight loss the fluctuation normal. I have been really careful about my food and even increased my exercise.

Sam

My lame contribution, Kazz! Reach for the sky, low carbs in July!

Hedwig, after only two days I felt amazing energy wise and my BS were down to 6!!

I’ve cracked! I went to work this morning with no plan and ended up getting to 4pm not eating – bar a shake at 8am – such a bad move I know. So popped into Wagamamas – in my head I thought it would be low carb – ended up ordering and then googling what I ordered – 1100 calories 😱 I felt lethargic and high almost immediately – must remember to bottle that feeling 😣. At first I was thought ah sod it I’ll take today off, but feeling determined again, so think I’ll go for a walk and call it a day food wise today.

Just realised that my post made no sense. I meant to write that Xand even put some broccoli in with the beige carbs to emphasise that broccoli and green veg were carbs also.

Regarding the title for the next 4 week thread, I like both your ideas, Kazzee! I’m rubbish at rhymes so I’m not sure that I’ll come up with anything. I’m still intending to call everyone Zoomers, though 🙂

Caro
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Well done sunshine-girl! You must be really pleased to have got back on the horse. Good luck on Monday, great incentive for getting right back in touch with it
Maggie

@maggiebath and @jgwen, those are great points, and you convinced me that it’s worth trying out.

I am in for low carb, for 8 weeks. I think I’ll go for the 50g goal rather than 20g on most days, though, given vegetarianism and also so I can be part of family meals. I’m really curious about how it will feel in terms of energy levels, cravings, etc. Thinking of it this way makes it feel more like a game, which I think I’ll enjoy.

Thanks so much!

No snack last night but still had the dark chocolate square. Weight is down, so is BG and I reduced my insulin by one unit. I have a full set of bloods booked for Monday – that is everything from erythrocytes, sedimentation rates, red corpusles, as they say in medical programmes lft, u&h and uncle tom cobbly and all. Plus urine. Then I have the doctor with my results on Wednesday but I am more worried about my weight for a change. My BG seems okay although I have had some peaks over the holidays but hoping it will even itself out. Makes me more determined to keep going this weekend.

Hi hedwig6,
I think that no matter if you decide to dip a toe in by just cutting out the white carbs (bread, rice, pasta etc) or jump in, it would still be best to measure and log the amount of carbs you are eating. You will be surprised how many places carbs hide and how easily they add up. If you have been measuring you will start to see how you can easily reduce levels further and
Also carbs raise insulin which makes you crave more carbs. My experience was that I found it easier to keep the cals down to 800 and get hunger under control by controlling carbs.

The impression I have from being on the forums since last October is that its more likely that someone will slip back to old eating habits after hitting their targets if they try to avoid cutting carbs right down. I think those of us who have so much weight to loose that we are fierce on our carb limits and do multiple rounds of the 800 cals have an advantage when it comes to breaking free from carbs long term as our taste buds adapt. –

Hi everyone! Only 5 days until we flip over to a new 4 week challenge 🙂 I so hope that everyone will be continuing on
with us, newbies and maintainers alike! We all need to help Kazz out with the new title! I like “I spy…”. It makes me
smile. You’re doing great Caro!!! Buddhaswife, I’ve missed your cheeful posts, so it’s good to know that you’re back
in the fold, after your business trip. Thank you for putting up the Guardian link! I agree 1000% percent 🙂 The forums
are indeed the secret weapon we all have, and it’s in the sharing and social interaction that we gain strength. When
I finally found my way here 10 months ago, I was several months into maintenance, but I was an anxious mess over
my constant preoccupation with my husbands health concerns. Within literally days of joining, my anxiety levels
began to drop, and taking an interest in the welfare of others is what made all the difference! Now everyone here
is “family” to me, an it has enriched my life beyond measure. Let’s finish up strong!

xoxo
Allie

Why not dive in and do the full programme? Quick wins are very motivating and you won’t get the benefits without following the principles. And you might be very surprised at how good you feel if you go for it.

Missjasmine
You will definitely reverse the diabetes with 20g carbs. Great that you blood sugars are showing improvement already. The first couple of weeks are the hardest but the longer you stay off the carbs the easier it gets. I agree that drinking lots of water is very important.

Just found this on MMs Twitter.
That’s why I love this forum. We do it together. 😍
Maby you have read it already. If not, happy reading!

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/23/the-friend-effect-why-the-secret-of-health-and-happiness-is-surprisingly-simple?__twitter_impression=true

Thanks for the info on fruit! I don’t have any heath conditions, and my BMI is within normal range, so I am wondering how necessary it is to be eagle-eyed about my carb intake, if the carbs are coming from fruit, veggies & legumes. I feel like it might make sense for me to start with breads, added sugars and such and see how much of a difference that makes, before working down to fruit. Am I missing something?

I have not had a good plan so far, though, so I haven’t technically started yet :). This is like pre-start week for me, when I’m trying to feel out what might work in terms of schedule and ways to break up the meals. It’s helpful to read about all your experiences, so I echo that thank you above, for sharing your process and experience.

Hi all!
Just back from a business trip and scale today is 86.11. What!?No wheigt gain! Still can’t believe it. Eating lika a horse (ok; cut out rice on indian restaurant, and hade proper breakfast every day, and drank water, and logged all the goodies in MFP) but still.
Don’t remember my wheigt from last week but it was not 86.11 kg!
I realy hope to find time to read all your comments. There are so many pages! What a lively thread! What a nice energy going on!
Guess there’s a lot of success and a mountain of anvious and intriguing work beeing done here!
So its safe to say in advance: Good work! Congrats! Yes! Keep up the good work!
Like to share a quote I saw on Fifbit blogg.
“Today I love myself enough to do a workout.”
It’s a keeper. Right? 😉

Hi!
Hope I can join you a bit late.
Just home from a business trip.
Starting today and hope beeing home will help me to follow the diet routine. Will try to catch up and read all your comments later. Its so deep and sometimes earthshaking to take part of the lifestyle yurney you all share. It feels like I am “selected” to be a part of not just my own rocky yurney but in everyone’s else’s yurney to. I feel deeply greatfull and thankful for this confidence and trust. And I can’t thank you enough ❤️ Verano❤️ for your efforts put in this matter. You must have endless of love and strength to keep up this work. We can just silently bow our heads in greatfulness and hope that you can feel the love beeing sent to you. Words are just not enough to express it all. Maby a poem would. But I’m not a poet. Maby a handwritten letter would. But I don’t now where in the world you live. Maby a gift would do it. But no gift would match. And maby you just feel it anyway. 🙏
Buddhas Wife

Marie! I don’t know what you mean, I’m sure! hahaha!
Caro and Maggie – thanks very much for the info. I shall mull it over and will be due for my annual check up in September, so something to work towards…..
Kazzeexx

Hi all you beautiful!
I was gone for business tripp and returned yesterday evening.
Just pop in to report that this week was full of nice eating and Sweden’s national day yesterday.
But wheigt in this morning and no gain this week! I’m hapy with that consider what the meny was 😂!
Hope to come back later and read all your post.
I head on to the new thread right away!
A big thank you to all of you for exelent support, sharing and just beeing YOU!
❤️

Sunshine-girl – you are absolutely right. Xian was careful to point out that the ‘green carbs’ were absolutely OK and that it is only the ‘white’ and ‘beige’ carbs that are harmful. He even put some broccoli in with the beige carbs to emphasise this point. We understood that from the programme and I am at a loss to understand how a trained nutritionist couldn’t get it.

You did well with your shorthand – mine is so rusty now. Thank you for writing down the conclusion to the programme. How wonderful that the ‘tide is turning against the bad carbs’.

Still some mistakes but I made a compromise – last night I made an omelette for dinner – as usual I cut a small chunk to save for supper so it was still counted in my days allowance. Because that was my snack I didn’t need chicken or ham with or without Ryvita so no added calories there so I did allow myself the square of chocolate – total calories 720.

Lost some weight and reduced insulin by 1 unit and BG was still down this morning. All happy of this front just wish it would stop raining so I can get back in the pool.

It’s quite wonderful to see friends and family for the first time, isn’t it Caro! The very best reaction I ever got was from
a very close friend, and I was @100lbs down….Her eyes filled with tears! The very strangest reaction I ever had was
from a new nurse in my Dr.’s office. I had lost 148lbs, and she wanted to know when I’d had bariatric surgery! Her
eyes got wide and her jaw dropped when I told her about the BSD. I don’t think I fully appreciated the new me until
that moment 🙂 🙂 🙂

Just started a thread on my Facebook page and the first comment from a friend is – I dont smoke, I dont drink much so leave my carbs alone, they are my only vice. Funny this is from a French friend who is as skinny as hell and the French dont eat many carbs with their meals, just their beloved baguettes.

I think a lot of this was aimed at the general population to show them they can live without the starchy carbs or they can use alternatives, like brown rice, pumpernical bread, toasting white bread or making them resistant starches like the rice, bread and pasta. If that will encourage more people to reduce their carb intake and reduce the about of obesity and related illnesses then it is a start. Not for me the resistant starch or the dense breads even though they are more slow burning and better than the usual stuff. I know I cannot have these and I am happy with cauliflower rice and courgette spaghetti so no problem for me.

Krysia, Xian did say that most doctors will not believe this including himself but we are moving in the right direction. What I cant get my head around is that no-one is saying to cut out a whole food group. If you can still have carbs in some other form where is the problem – ignorance of what makes up a carb or using better GI carbs like brown rice or quinoa.

I was greatly cheered by the last part by Xian – my shorthand came in handy and the conclusion was:-
“The recommendation of Dr Unwin and Dr Massarani is now being rolled out on line by the Royal College of General Practitioners as part of a wider programme using nutrition and diet to manage diabetes. It will soon be available to GP’s across the whole of the UK”.

Thank you, SunnySandy. He has recovered from the surgery, but we still live with his stage 3 heart failure everyday.
Do you use one of the apps to count carbs? I’m a dinosaur, and still don’t have an iphone, but I made a food diary by
food group with portion sizes, so keep track that way. What is curious is that fatsecret site lists 1/2c fresh blueberries
at 40cal. and carbs at 8.8g, but the nutrition panel on a bag of frozen berries says 80cal. and 17carbs? Eggs and berries
for breakfast sounds great, but probably need to measure the berries! Since I like raspberries, I just add 1/4c to my
greek yogurt each morning….I’m hoping, along with you, that this episode of IBS will turn out to just be an isolated
incident. Since I began eating fermented UNPASTEURIZED kimchi in 1/4 c. portion each day, I’v been free of occasional
IBS symptoms. I do have a good source, but it wouldn’t help you I’m afraid, as it is American, like me 🙂 I’ve not used any
of the recipes from the book because they contain more carbs than what I allow myself each day. I hope others that
do will weigh in on them! I’ve been cooking for over 4 decades, so I just adapted my own recipes to make them BSD
friendly. Keep in touch!

Allie

Oh how lovely reading your reunions! Its great when we keep in touch isn’t it.

Funnily enough, there was a programme on the beeb last night about carbs. It was good to know that eating the right type of carbs is the way forward. Blimey, there were some people who even had their type II diabetes reversed as a result. A GP has come up with a smart carb programme that will be used nationwide eventually. So keep keeping low-carb and everything will be alright in the end – and if its not, then its not the end! 😉

Bean xx

Hi Martymonster,
I also had to smile at the bakers enthusiasm for the flour for the bread having to be ground in a wind powered mill between stones. – Exactly why does that reduce carbs in comparison to grinding up the whole grain through a different technique, other than enabling people who run old wind powered mills to sell their flour at a premium?

On the positive side, this program was so much better than that chief who lost so much weight eating low carb and then decided it was too difficult for the general public to do the same and instead pushed cal counting.

Opps Marie, sorry, I was wrong, GL isn’t GI plus taking fibre into account. Also its even more complicated, its not just the about the carb/fibre of each individual ingredient. – Its the total mix of the meal.

JGwen – I think you are right that the programme almost felt like it had been produced as part of an advertisement / launch of the new program to help both the public and GP’s to accept the new advice.

There has already been a backlash against the programme from nutritionists. One nutritionist said “We know carbohydrates are not uniquely linked to weight gain or type-2 diabetes, so it doesn’t make sense to focus on one particular food group like this” and also “cauliflower rice is in no way a substitute for regular rice, nutritionally or flavour-wise. It won’t be as satisfying!” and a doctor wrote “The NHS recommends that “just over a third of your diet should be made up of starchy foods, such as potatoes, bread, rice and pasta, and another third should be fruit and vegetables” . Oh dear – it does look as though some experts will be very reluctant to change their long held views.

Marie123 – I also found watching some of the faces of those who took part when they were told their results was quite touching, especially the guy who had been diabetic for 17 years and was showing some signs of improvement in 2 weeks was particularly heartening. In fact it actually made me feel quite emotional watching it.

I did find the resistant starch issue very interesting though. Not for me of course because my tolerance of carbs is so low – but for my husband who is not diabetic and baked his own bread. He watched the programme with me and has decided to slice and freeze his bread so the carbs won’t have such a big impact on his blood sugars.

Pancita – I tried the cracker test – it took 27 seconds before they tasted sweet (and an awful lot longer to properly rinse my mouth out after the test).

Good morning! I’m trying to do this every day – positive thoughts early on do seem to help!

1) Went to a small do for my father-in-law’s 70th last night (the big do’s are this weekend) and stuck to the food that was ok for me to eat.
2) Most people there hadn’t seen my for a while and all said lovely things about my weight loss and how great I looked. They all know the reason and were so supportive.
3) I got just over 9K steps yesterday 🙂

Hi Kazz
I just stopped, I didn’t like the side effects . I was very high pre meds and even with meds only got down to 140/90. Now I’m generally in the normal range; I don’t think it’s the weight because I’ve been here before with sky high bp, it’s the carbs. I know that’s true for me because once when I ditched the wine I drank a pure fruit cordial and the fructose made my BP soar. I didn’t make the connection to refined carbs then unfortunately.
Another example of the failure of the medical profession to advise us correctly.

Hi Marie, – I think the issue of fiber and carbs level is something I need to get my head round as well. – But I put it to one side until I get to maintenance. – I want to focus on weight/shape change first and then experiment. –
I have wittered on in the past about about Glycaemic Load rather than Glycaemic Index. – Which I think is the formal way of working out how fiber rich a food is so work out the impact on blood sugar levels. It will be interesting to see if the new guidance that the program seemed to suggest was on its way from the NHS gives more information on this.
I have also talked about maybe buying one of the blood testers, to get the figures on how my body reacts to different foods as it appears to be a very individual issue. – There was a brief image of one of the new testers that you wear on your arm for 2 weeks and get constant readings rather than testing the blood in the BBC program last night. – I looked them up a while ago and they are quite expensive, When you buy the kit it comes with 2 monitors each of which will last for only upto 2 weeks, if it falls off within that 2 weeks you can’t reapply it. Its £160 for a pack with 2 monitors. You can then buy extra monitors for £58 each. – But maybe if they become more popular the prices will drop or other devices will come out to compete.
(Perhaps groups of us living in similar areas can get together and buy one between us, so we share the cost of buying the kit, and then just buy the monitors when its our turn to use it for a couple of weeks.) The point being it could help take all the worries out of going over to maintenance and maximising the range of food we can eat.

Kazzee – I’ve also come off my BP meds so am jumping in here! I finally got around to going to the dr armed with home readings as I knew my BP was bad and wanted to do something about it. That was in March. At that point my BP was around around 160/95-ish. I carried on taking readings every morning and the dr agreed to let me cut down and then last week stop altogether (yay). I started on 10mg lisinopril, it quickly got upped to 20mg (mistake as my BP went low and I got dizziness and my fingers kept going numb), back to 10mg, then down to 5mg and now, none. That’s all since the end of March. My dr is astounded at how quickly it plummeted – I put it all down to the low carbs (although I assume losing 1 stone 5lbs also helped). I’m now about 1.5 stone away from the top of my ideal weight range and my daily readings tend to be around the 115/75-80 mark. You may find that they are reluctant to cut you down just yet, although I’d be pushing for it, given your lower reading of 107/66.

Hope that helps!
Caro
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Sunnysandy
There is something called the FoDmap diet which identifies food that ferments in gut and likely to cause IBS pain.

But basically is a try it and observe.
The things I never eat are garlic powder and onion powder … often in commercially produced food so make all my own. I don’t eat raw onion, leeks,celery, spring onion only cooked. Mushrooms apples pineapple and bananas I can’t take.

Everything else I eat.

Too many vegetables , too much fat and too much food in one go set me off.

This diet is great for IBS mainly because you are not overloading your stomach but with proviso off probably watch high fat intake. Fat molecules take longer to go through digestive tract and can cause some pain and cramping. Hormones do exacerbate it. My daughter 19 has same and monthly can have quite bad episodes. IBS I had a higher prevalence in women probs for that reason.

Probiotics really help no make just a good one from a health shop or amazon. Evidence for probiotics helping most things including immunity is really strong.
There is some evidence of vitamin d helping and we all score low here in Scotland !
Hope that helps .. there is lots on internet and everyone is different …I have 2/ 3 children who suffer and they can react to random meals.

Hi Everyone. I’m having mixed progress . yesterday i was up to 84kg so I knew that I need to get control of portions and weigh everything,I did well till 10pm when a couple of biscuits corrupted me. Never mind,this morning weight was down to 83.6 on track to loose 1kg per week and BGL 5.7mmol . Ive had a very strict morning a couple of cups of coffee and nothing till 1pm . no time for lunch so an egg and then a latte at 3pm which should be enough but I started to get a bit hypo and I couldn’t find anything low carb where I was at the shops so succumbed to a grilled cheese on a bun. I usually have a few almonds in my bag and a bottle of water but not today when I needed. So, note to self get more organized. I’m trying to limit myself for the rest of the evening.It will be interesting to see tomorrows weight. I hope everyone is doing well, its been raining heavily for the last 4 days and its down to 5 degrees so Im beginning to envy the British summer weather.

Caro, I have no doubt you will get to the lower stone by Tuesday! Great news! Yep, every little counts! I’ve been rubbish the last 2 days drinking water so am back on my 6 mugs of warm water with lemon slice today. 3 in the morning (1 litre) and 3 in the afternoon! I don’t know if it’s my imagination but my face seems much clearer when drinking the water. I’ve been plagued with acne rosacea since turning 50. I took antibiotics for about 8 months after 3 years which cleared it up, but then that’s when I developed gut and digestive problems from then on (and on researching remedies for that, came across this website and the rest is history). I’m still prone to a few pimples now and then but I mostly manage it with a routine of acqueous to remove make up, nivea to moisturise, then an hour later apply sudocrem – every night – keeps it at bay! But less likely to produce pimples when drinking the water! xxxx

Pleasure Allie! You’re up early?!
Thanks for the recommendations MartyMonster and Maggie. I’ve added those to my list of reads.
Maggie – when you stopped your meds and I’m particularly interested in BP meds, did you do it via the doc and cut down gradually? I would dearly love to come of my BP meds and frequently go 3 days sometimes forgetting to take them. I have a monitor at home and without meds (after 3 days) my bp is around 137/96. With meds and resting, around 117/72, sometimes 107/66. I still have around 5 stone to lose though… I’m just interested?
Thanks
Kazzeexx

Kazzee
I was just typing it up but see you beat me to it. Bye, you’re fast, lass – but we already knew that!! No crackers in this house either atm but when we get some, I’m definitely trying it out on my guinea pig – erm, husband.
Marie xx
nb That reminds me I loved your recent post on the positive thoughts thread xxx

Hi Seadog and Maggie – it’s an awesome documentary and it left me feeling all sorts of emotions from desperation, joy, anger etc. Thanks for the link Maggie. Hmmmmm! made me shiver when I read his tweet…. shades of TN indeed….

Sorry Pancita, no crackers in the house!
Marie, yes it is scary to think what might have happened if l hadn’t forgotten to order a repeat prescription. I would dearly like to know what incentivisations doctors are being offered for issuing certain drugs. I wonder if it’s worth a Freedom of Information enquiry?
Like you I’m really concerned at the number of prescriptions issued to older people; I’ve ditched the aspirin, bp medication and statins and only take paracetamol when essential and never ibuprofen. The last couple of days I’ve been taking antihistamines because of the pollen levels and being otherwise drug free have really noticed their side effects, so today I’ll sneeze!
Bit more reading for you, Malcolm Kendrick’s Doctoring Data. It’s all about how facts are manipulated to get the headline that Big Pharma and the food industry want.
Going right back to Ancel Keys who manipulated stats to “prove” his hypothesis that saturated fats were bad for us, and Frederick Stare an extremely influential Harvard nutrionist who was paid by the sugar industry for favourable research https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/12/sugar-industry-harvard-research/ I believe we should question everything.
Malcolm Kendrick suggests asking, if you took statins how much longer would you live – that’ll stop them in their tracks because (a) they won’t know and (b) the answer according to the research is one in two hundred people, after a year of statin use will live an extra 3 months.
There’s so much on YouTube- I use the app to watch on tv, much easier.
Sorry, I’ll get off my hobby horse!
Maggie

Morning all!

Thanks for posting the cracker test Kazz, I’m really interested to try that. I’m on a fast day today so I’ll be having scrambled eggs for lunch as I’m feeling very lazy! Currently enjoying the first of my two coffees of the day and celebrating the slow fall in my BGL over the last few days. Still not where i want them, but going in the right direction! The scales also rewarded me with a small .75lb loss this morning but everything counts, right?! I am .5lb from moving down into the next stone – so close I can almost touch it! I have my fingers crossed for my official Tuesday weigh in!

I am so grateful for the community here – it really does help so much when everything seems like a struggle. Knowing that there are so many people out there that have succeeded and are in maintenance and feel healthy and happy is a massive incentive. So thanks to all of you for continuing to support us.

Happy Zooming!
Caro
x

I hope you’re wrong about the celeriac chips JGwen. They’ve been our go to for chips for about a year and they are totally yummy!
😀
I’ve found them as a replacement to chips, cauliflower as rice and broccoli as mash to be great substitutes.
I don’t think anyone has managed bread or pasta yet. I do the spiralized courgettes but they are not the same!

I found the celeriac chips and broccoli mash in a great recipe book – Annie Bell’s “Low Carb Revolution”. Note, she has a follow on which is okay but the original is best. The chips were in a fish and chip recipe where she ‘breads’ the fish with ground almonds. Yummy!

Highly recommend that book . More for people who’ve passed the 8 week mark and need more recipes to continue it as a way of life.

Oh Kazz, I DID want to know what the cracker test was!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you 🙂

Hi there Zoomers!
How’s everyone getting on? You’re all very quiet! Is it still school holidays this week for some people?
What’s for lunch? Today I have a roast chicken thigh and broccoli, asparagus and green bean salad and a home made dressing of lemon juice, olive oil and dijon mustard. Yum yum!
Kazzeexx

Pancita – I’d have to go and buy some crackers in order to do that test. But yes, that was really interesting wasn’t it? For our friends unable to watch the programme, here’s how you do the cracker test…

To find out if you fall into the Full, Moderate of Restricted carb category you will need an unsalted cracker and way of timing yourself.

1. Take a bite of the cracker, set your time for 30 seconds and start chewing, but don’t swallow. Paying close attention to any change in taste as it may start happening immediately, and it can be quite subtle.

2. As soon as you notice a change in taste note down the time. If you reach 30 seconds without seeing a change, stop chewing.

3. Repeat the test twice and note your times to get an average.

0-14 seconds – Full carb type: You’re genetically predisposed to break down carbs. You can have up to 50 per cent of your calories from carbs, while 20 per cent should come from protein and 30 per cent from fat.

15-20 seconds – Moderate carb type: Ideally you should have no more than 35 per cent of your calories from carbs while an equal amount should come from fats and 30 per cent from protein.

30 seconds or more – Restricted carb type: No more than 25 per cent of your calories should come from carbs as your body finds them hard to break down. You should opt for a higher fat diet for 40 per cent of your calorie intake, while 35 per cent should come from protein.

Good morning! I too watched that programme last night (and texted every one I know to watch it also!). Yes, I was confused about the bread thing too! I don’t need to know that, being such a bread junky! 🙂 Overall, I thought it was really positive and encouraging. My mum texted me after saying she was putting her bread in the freezer! I said, even better, give it to the birds! We’re getting there!
Kazzeexxx

Hi there,
I too watched the programme, and after a very long time without crackers, I did the cracker test. I chewed and chewed on the dry cracker, and soon it was gone and I had tasted no sweetness. I tried a second with the same result. I’m interested to know, did anyone else try the test, and how did you get on?
I lost a couple of stone on my BSD and have kept it off for a year and a bit, mainly because I know now that I feel rubbish if I eat carbs so I eat very few.
xx

Yes, it is interesting and so shocking to see how badly the native population have suffered from their change of lifestyle. The Australian Medical Association are trying to get Netflix to remove it – shades of Tim Noakes?
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/diet/pete-evans-defends-his-the-magic-pill-documentary-after-the-sunday-project-panel-weighed-in/news-story/5abaf3e9c5a1b80af12d16195494e587

oops, my apologies – wrong brother – it was Xand van Tulleken – are they twins?!?

Hi JGwen
Yes, I watched the programme, too. To be honest I found some of it a bit confusing and disappointing from my perspective as someone with Type II diabetes – the whole section about eating bread and some of the things the chef was making – but I was really cheered by that last bit about the NHS rolling out a low carb programme for diabetics (did he say an on-line programme – I know David Unwin was involved in developing the online low carb programme offered by diabetes.co.uk) and it’s always good to see people with diabetes (and other medical issues) hearing about the positive impact low carb has had for them individually.

I found watching some of the faces of those who took part when they were told their results was quite touching. The fact that the guy who had been diabetic for 17 years was showing some signs of improvement in 2 weeks was particularly heartening.

Oh, my cynical friend – I bet you’re right about the celeriac chips!!

Marie xx
edited – to be fair I don’t really know anything about resistant starch which is what Chris van Tulleken was talking about in relation to the pumpernickel and rye bread.

nb I’ve always found the whole thing about fibre and carbs, and you can eat these carbs because the fibre zeros out the carbs completely confusing (so confusing I might be talking complete nonsense here) – something else I need to get my head around at some point!!