Hi FoFi,
I can relate so much to seeing people with ‘nicer’food. Every time I am at an event with buffett style food I end up with ‘plate envy’ when I see what others at my table are eating. This is despite the fact that there’s still plenty of every thing left for me if I want it!
Luckily for me something seemed to click about 3 days in to this plan and I can now prepare meals & even desserts for my hubbie & kids, then happily sit down with my bowl of salad or yoghurt. I decided to look at my Type 2 as an allergy to refined carbs. That helped me to stop blaming myself and just accept it.
Only thing causing me cravings were the diet sodas I was ‘treating’ myself with. Have since cut them out too.
Not hungry and no longer craving. Haven’t felt that way in years.

Hahhaha…Judynocakes…I like that..thanks Bill:)

Hi,
I am about to make vegetable stock, something I have not done for years – but I do remember that it tasted a whole lot better than the bought varieties.
Like any stock, it involves long, slow cooking (slightly less in the pressure cooker) and at the end, sieving the fluid off and discarding the rest.
The discard is mainly the fibre in the veg that you added. The vitamins etc are in the stock. However – where are the carbs, fats and sugars???? I would expect some to be in the discard, but not all? Any thoughts or experience in the group? The other option is to count everything that went into it as part of the stock – it will make probably double the calories of the soups … but maybe that is correct!

NB – I am not look at using it on the 800 diet, but on the 5:2 for the ‘5’ days.

You only have to read these forums to see how well it does work!!

Call me a sceptic if you like folks but I’m with Bill on this one. Too similar to the previous poster advocating the same book. You have to wonder about the motives in knocking something you’ve never tried, but which is backed up by sound research from different well respected sources.

Good start Judy
By the end of 8 weeks we’ll be calling you Judynocakes 😉

Hi everyone else that took the time to post:).. I appreciate all the great advise and kind words of encouragement. I will check in each day to see how you are doing! Thanks again
Jude

Hi Wig!
So nice we are starting together…we can be diet buddies! Well got through the first day…but did have a few cracker (soda) in the evening. I am not upset about it, it is an amazing change for me as I usually snacked continually at night. Had the Muesli this morning, quite tasty. Have you weighed yourself today? I weighed myself, but need to take the picture and measure. So excited to be on this journey to good health!
Jude

HI, I mainly eat plain salad( celery, red pepper, cucumber and tomatoes) with an individual pot (40g) of houmous. Today, I have just had an individual pot of greek yoghurt with a courgette muffin (from the freezer). I did like the beetroot falafel with greek yoghurt but it was a lot of effort to make; I have since found them in a supermarket (and also spinach falafels).

Thank you all for these ideas, they sound great. Will definitely give them all a go!!

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/over-the-8-week-line-and-after/

Take a look at that thread chezza
Won’t be long before you are in there 😀

As it happens I had a pork chop cooked in tinned chopped tomatoes and garlic with butterbean mash for dinner last hight and very nice it was too.
You could substitute pork for most of the recipes that contain meat. remembering that the pork will probably have a higher calorie count per gram than chicken, but if you work that into your daily allowance you should be ok.

Hi Lizzy. We (husband and I!) are also on day 2! Recipes we have tried from the book are chicken, butterbean and walnut salad (delicious) and the chickpea and hazlenut salad (also lovely but I must say I missed the ‘meat’!). I thought afterwards that these would be two recipes I could take for a lunch when I am going out. The avocado options are also good. And the no-carb ploughman’s we will try tomorrow. Hope that helps!

Apologies from me too if you are genuine but saying as you used not only the same arguments, but almost the same words as a previous troll I think it was highly unlikely.
Not promoting the sort of food you mention and are happy to eat is down to insulin resistance, the stuff spikes our sugar levels – you should know that.
That still doesn’t explain why a 72 year old T2D who is apparently happy with his “healthy” lifestyle, should feel the need to search out and post on a support forum with the express intention of trying to stop people from using a diet that we all know works and get them to adopt another method. Perhaps I’m wrong and you have a blog that extolls the virtues of your preferred method, after all, your very presence here shows you must care about it. If so can we have a link ?
Personally I don’t believe a word of it. I’ll leave it to the rest of the forum to make their own decisions.

Thanks everyone its great to get such wonderful support
Going to a friends house for dinner on Good Friday and Easter sunday is a big family get together for lunch. Just need to be prepared and think ahead – already thinking of taking my own starter of hummus and veg on Friday

Hi
Has anybody got any pork recipes instead of chicken. I dont eat a lot of meat and dont eat chicken. I expect that any chicken recipes could have pork fillet as a substitue but I just wondered if anybody had an recipe ideas.
Thanks

Hi All

Has anybody completed the BSD and if so what were the results so far as weight loss and blood readings are concerned.
Im really interested as everybody is different.

Hi Lizzy, If you have a good food thermos, then I suggest soups. I make a veg soup – 1l stock, 2 onions, 2 leeks, 3 carrots, 1 clove garlic, tsp cumin seeds, tsp, mustard seeds, 2 tsp curry powder and that is about 120-140 cals (depending on sizes of veg) – but very filling (from Newcastle website). 10 mins in pressure cooker or 20-30 normal cooking then blitz with hand blender. It make 3 portions – one for the day and 2 for the freezer. In your case I would probably add a tin of cannellini beans to bulk up and add protein. If you have that 3-4 hours into the shift plus a hardboiled egg (or feta cheese) and a tomato, cucumber and spring onion salad – that as a lunch keeps me going for a good few hours. If there is a microwave, I would be tempted to take another soup for later in the day as well – they are easy to carry, few mins to heat in microwave or 20-30 mins depending on microwave strength to defrost. I am veggie so this option works well for me – I am sure others will chip in with other ideas.

Happyslappy
You and I were clearly writing our posts at the same time as yours was not there when I was composing mine. Thank you for taking the time to come back to us with some background as to why you made the statements you did.

The fact remains that the majority of the people using this forum are achieving very positive results. Perhaps the book you mentioned has something to add to our knowledge base, I don’t know but we are always glad to look at adding to our knowledge here. You do not have to knock the work Dr Mosley is doing though.

Hi Lizzy

Try making the egg muffins and take them with salad and fruit – keeping within your daily limits. Also the indulgent prawn salad recipe I posted is great for a packed lunch. I have had Ryvita with Cottage Cheese or with laughing cow light cheese triangles. One Rivita is only .5 g of carbs and the seeded ones are lovely. You could get away with 3 Ryvia if youre really hungry. AGain with salad. Hard Boiled eggs and salad or on the days you can get to a microwave the cream of mushroom soup if you want something hot with a Ryvita crumbled into it. Again keep count of your carbs and you should be fine. Im on day 3 for the secone attempt. Weighed myself this morning the scales say 5lb loss!!! Given youre a nurse and run off your feet each shift hopefully all this will fit in.

Good luck

Hi Madmare and Chezza,
You two are off to a great start! The first days are the worst but you soon get through it. There are lots of us here willing to support and advise if you find yourself needing a boost.
Why not take advantage of the long weekend to pack up a picnic and go for a long walk somewhere nice? Get away from the choccy temptations and out into the fresh air. You’ll be getting exercise and escaping the madness at the same time. Even the local park would do if you can’t face the holiday traffic.
What about a trip to the local garden centre to plan for a new vegie garden if you have room for one? It will come in handy in your new healthy life.
Either way, make the most of your time off and have some fun. All the best for your success, will be looking out for your progress reports 🙂

Hi Lizzy – how about a big serving of salad with cottage cheese/hardboiled eggs/mackerel fillets/chicken breast?

Full-fat yoghurt with berries, apple, seeds.

I’m sure others will be along soon with more ideas 🙂

I’m on day 34 (I think) but really I have stopped counting because this way of eating and living is so easy. The first week was a bit of a challenge with the usual withdrawal symptoms but from then on, I can honestly say this is the best thing I have ever done for myself.

You will find various approaches on the forums; some stick to 800 cals, some count carbs anywhere between 20g and 50g a day, some do shakes, others do real food. My personal choice is the 16/8 where I don’t eat for 16 hours of the day (which includes 9 hours of sleeping of course) and I have my 50g of carbs in the other 8 hours.

You will discover what works best for you as you go on. Golden rules though; keep carbs low, keep fats high (low fat products are to be banished!), keep fluid intake high, use the forums, be happy.

All the best to you.

Thanks to Rozydozy for the link in another thread.

I wouldn’t normally waste my breath on no-marks like ‘happyslappy’ but the timing is just so perfect I couldn’t resist. I know that person doesn’t want to have an actual debate with us but its not just Dr Mosley as this quote taken from an article yesterday shows;
The study, published today in Diabetes Care, is the latest research from world-renowned Professor Roy Taylor, Professor of Medicine and Metabolism at Newcastle University, who also works within Newcastle Hospitals.

The research is part of a growing body of evidence showing that people with Type 2 diabetes who successfully lose weight can reverse their condition because fat is removed from their pancreas, returning insulin production to normal.

In yer face happyslappy!

Hi Madmare

I too am on day 3. I checked my weight this morning – 5lb off !!!! I checked 3 times. No headaches thankfully and not hungry either. Not sleeping very well though. Try the cream of mushroom soup its lovely and really filling. Also the egg muffins. Im not looking forward to the weekend either – if I have to I’ll stay in bed any housework can wait until next week!!

Good luck to you and Bill1954

Hi hashimoto,Sharon, captainlynne bill1954 and others
I am not a medical professional not someone with an agenda
The reality is that even Prof Taylor cannot deny the facts that there is “no cure “for diabetes
I’m just an ordinary 72 year old who contracted diabetes in 2001 ,primarily as a result of bad lifestyle. Over indulgence in many parts of my life
I suffered severe depression for 2/3 years as I didn’t know how to deal with as my wife was type 1
I “starved” to keep my blood sugars in check as is being proposed in this diet
My GP (a friend as well as a doctor) , gave me, yes gave me the GL diet book by Nigel Denby and I haven’t looked back and I have not tested either blood or urine
My concern is that Dr Moseley on the Steve Wright show some 9 months ago said that having been warned by his doctor that he was diabetic, so he created the 5and 2 and he’d cured himself of diabetes. No he’s controlling it by way of diet or eating healthily as I do using the GL as a guide (not a bible)
Now the diet to beat all diets is the “blood sugar diet” . All I’m saying is that after some 5 books on the subject over as many years, they can’t all be best
So my question to Dr Moseley is, if I have followed the plan to eat healthily but not starving nor dyning myself of some of the joys of life (wine pasta rice dining out etc) then why not promote normal healthy eating. Its like the “sugar thing” , I have not taken sugar, salt in my food other than the addition in restaurants by the chefs, and I have drunk black sugarless coffee for 50 years. Yet I still contracted diabetes and will have it until I die
No blood sugar diet will reverse that TRUTH
So all I say to people just read the GL ,not the GI book and see for yourselves
I wis you all every success in what you are trying to achieve and I leave you with the quote that helped along the way , Henry James ” you never know what you can’t do until you try”

Just to add, I buy grapefruit on every shopping trip and try to keep it around 2 weeks in the fruit bowl before I eat it. They are never too tart then.

Thanks all.

Good to hear. Gladly not on any medication and not diabetic (though I was on the road to it) and hoping to swerve it with this diet.

loving this forum.

x

I’m glad your thicker blouse tucks in too Lucia, it gives you a spur on doesn’t it! I used to find that bending my leg up to cut my toenails was a bit tricky, some of that was because the tummy was in the way – also the boobs. The boobs were easily sorted, well £6k later! I hope you had fun on your washing machine!

I’m feeling a bit spaced out this morning. I had my follow up minor surgery at 7.15 last night. I guess a benefit for my surgeon is that she was able to use my flatter tum to put her instruments on LOL. I had smoked haddock with a poached egg for breakfast but am not especially hungry today and had to make myself have it.

Cant use my vibration plate for a bit nor swim for 2 weeks til the new wounds heal. so, i’ll have to stick to walking for a while.

Aha
I may not have been listening correctly at the time as I was being prescribed statins at that time so that would explain it.
The statins got consigned to the bin ages ago and I have managed the cholesterol ok without them
Methinks a couple of luscious grapefruit will be in the shopping basket this week
Thanks for explaining it.

Hi Orchid
It’s going through the checking phase.
As soon as she has it Judith will post the link, we did it by email just to get it to where it is now.

Hi, grapefruit can interfere adversely with the how some drugs work like statins and some high blood pressure drugs. Can’t see anything about diabetes drugs on this link, but I am not that familiar with the drug names. The Newcastle team may have been very cautious in the advise. Link to NHS advise – http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/2474.aspx?CategoryID=73&SubCategoryID=103

Hello Maria. Grapefruit has a GI of 25 and a GL of 3 so it is fine for the diet. It is also only 35 kcal per half slice. You do need to wary of grapefruit if you are taking some medications, most commonly statins which are used to control cholesterol. Good luck!

Hi guys, is the petition live yet – I can’t find it online?

Good start,
this weekend in particular may be difficuilt as it’s Easter but I look forward to normal weekends when I can have a couple of really nice meals like a Sunday roast minus the potatoes and yorkies and a fried breakfast.
The headaches will go, just keep on hydrating and take pain killers if needed. Be sure to get some full fat dairy in there too.
Once you get into the swing of things, you will feel great and sleep better, you won’t have carb cravings and you won’t feel hungry.
These are exciting times for T2D’s, come and join the experience.

I don’t know about grapefruit
I was told by the Newcastle diabetes centre a few years ago to avoid the stuff like the plague as it was just not good for T2D’s but no reasons were ever given, so if anyone has any facts about it, I’d be interested in them
I used to love grapefruit at one time.

I’ve just dropped a post into a UK business forum that I am a member of mentioning the diet and petition
I don’t know how many T2D’s use it but I know there are a few, there are also some very influential people who get on there from time to time
http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/threads/diabetes-boot-camps.356414/

The response should be interesting.

Thanks for that. Although it would be great to have a BSD diary and chart (just a hint for the website developers!) the book also suggest the My Fitness Pal app, but it simply won’t allow you to record an 800 calorie intake for a day as it’s ‘too low’ and ‘unhealthy’. Has anyone found a suitable app?

Hi
I’m a newbie only on day 2 of this lifestyle change.
I work 11 1/2 HR shifts as a nurse and will need to take packed lunches now not involving sandwiches. Don’t always have access to a microwave, any ideas to keep me on track?

Day three and I have lost 2.5 pounds – good but I have been here before and put it all back on at the week end
This time its going to be different!
I had a bit of a headache yesterday but drank lots of water. I was really hungry last night whilst making dinner but for once managed to snack on cherry tomatoes and lettuce
Today I woke up not hungry at all and in a great mood
Lets see how long it lasts
I have wardrobes of lovely clothes I just cannot fit into … I have been told I have high blood pressure and I dont want to take drugs
Its time for me to take control of my life

I’m just starting out (day 3) and wondered if I can have Grapefruit?

Also any suggestion for dinners everyone can have – hubby and 3 children ranging from 5 – 12. Trying to get a little list together so I don’t have to make two dinners every night ;o)

Thanks

Hi all,

Well said everyone and I reported it too.

Posted by maddy733 on delurkng😀
Hi Guys, Love this title. I am guilty of this but as a newbie was apprehensive of joining in. Well I am eight days in and so excited, I am pre diabetic and really over weight by about four stone, it sounds terrible when seeing it written down😡 Good news 9lbs lost in week one. It has really helped reading all your posts, thanks guys. Did any of you get scolded for daring to eat so few calories. Well I have been able to say now well I am not hungry, but did feel very light headed but that has gone now. Good l luck to us all.

Hi, after reading a very kind reply from Bill1954 in another thread I have been thinking about trying to reduce the amount of sugar my children eat. I am happy for them to have sweets and cakes and even soft drinks as an occasional treat, but I am struggling with some of the every day products, in particular yoghurt, biscuits, bread and breakfast cereal. If anyone knows of lower sugar versions available in the UK I would be most grateful to hear. I have searched google and my local shops, but many ‘low sugar’ kids products are actually full of agave syrup or honey or something else. Many of those on the internet are only available in the US. Or if you know of a good way of making the adult versions of these products a little more palatable that would be good to know too. I could wean them off it gradually.

I don’t want any artificial sweeteners – apart from not knowing the health risks they pose my aim is to get them used to less sweet food.

Yoghurt: the kids products seem very high in sugar, but at least they are small so the total sugar is sometimes lower than an adult pot. My children won’t eat natural yoghurt. I have tried adding fruit, but haven’t had much success.

Any reasonable low sugar biscuit would be much appreciated. I give them mini gingerbread men now which are aimed at much younger children, but at least they are small so total sugar is low, but it isn’t getting them away from the habit.

They don’t like porridge even with added honey. Any ideas how to make it more fun? Or thoughts on other breakfast cereal that is least bad?

If brown bread has too much sugar and not enough fibre, has anyone come across a reasonable bread that might be palatable to modern children? Wholegrain rye bread was a step too far!

Low sugar ice creams should be easy to find but I can’t – nearly all the emphasis is on low fat. Any ideas?

Any advice much appreciated – it doesn’t have to be perfect merely better than we have now.

Hi Proodles from another newbie 🙂

I’m in week 2 and can’t believe how good I’m feeling.

Such sad news captainlynne, but I’m glad you hear you’re feeling better today. Sounds like you coped really well food-wise – good for you!

Thank you SunnyB, we are both very happy. We are encouraging my husband’s brother who lives in NZ to ‘get on board BSD’ too, he has a couple of stone to lose as well. We have told him about this forum, as he lives on his own, we think he’d benefit from the online support and help everyone gives each other, which I find so heartwarming.

We have a thread running on here called ‘weigh in’. I don’t think there is anywhere else on the site just yet.

Hi Bill, and here’s me thinking my name was a bit unusual!! Yes please, I would send you mine if I knew how!!! 🙂 I can’t find Lynne either! 🙂