Hi Rob,

Clearly all your forces training has given you great mind over matter techniques. But you need to eat!

Yes, it can be a bit of a shock at first to come down to 800 calories but you will find that the lack of carbs reduces your appetite and you won’t feel so hungry. But you need to spend your calories in meat and fats to help achieve that satisfied feeling.

However, there is another way. Many of us on the forums don’t count calories, only carbs. So for instance, we aim for a maximum of 50grams of carbs a day. There are no carbs in eggs, meat, fish or butter and oil. So we eat these freely until we are full, no calorie counting. We still lose weight because of the reduced carbs.

So if you are really struggling with the hunger, try just counting the carbs. But you must only eat when you are hungry and stop eating when you are full. Eat mainly carb free food and veg, stil no pasta, potatoes, bread, etc.

Here’s wishing you a more comfortable week this week!

Great minds lucia I walk up and down stairs a lot in bad weather. Ive been known to drive to a supermarket to get lots of walking done indoors. Then just buy 1 item!
Boog 23 posted in the american thread.

I love sledging – i think i’ll be still doing it at 90 lol. So yes I’ll come with you. No icy snowballs down the neck though! X

Blinking well done Sharon! I am doing a bit of treadmill today in an effort to make up for cherrysconegate earlier in the week – I’d probably have to do about fifty miles to make up for it, though!

Hi Hashimoto
It has been sunny, then as black as night and very heavy rain with wind lashing it against the Windows. No hail yet, but me and Bill 1954 are having a snow ball fight later, do you want to bring your toboggan over?

Mother Nature doesn’t know what to do today.
It may calm down tomorrow.

I am going to walk up and down my stairs a few times, just to get the blubber moving again.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi jandz, chilli cheese, now you’re talking my language. Love it. I didn’t mention the fact that I add chilli to my frittata as I thought it might sound odd! 🙂

Ha ha! In that case, let the 6’5 male worry for himself! I checked with the book and the reason 800 was chosen was to give people with diabetes and prediabetes a big push with rapid weight loss. I don’t have either but I am only 5’2 and in the overweight category on the bmi chart. I have always found being vertically challenged makes any weight gain more apparent. But my BMI is gradually coming down and I am nearly back within the healthy range.

Best wishes on your journey, whatever your current make-up, you can improve it with this programme.

Hi boog 23

Are you still there? My Wellington boots are full of water, walking to you. How are you getting on?
You and I blogg d at the beginning of my journey.
I hope you are still on the path and all is well.
Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi Rob, welcome to the forums. It doesn’t matter which thread you use. You will always be welcome. This is the first time on forums for quite a few of us.
Don’t beat yourself up, we are all on here because of health or weight problems. You are among friends and part of this BSD family.

YES it does get easier. The book says the first two weeks are the hardest, so things will get better soon.

Re food – you could eat meals you are familiar with but ditch the carbs!

Looking forward to your future posts 🙂

I noticed that recipe for fried rice too. What a good idea!

I had friends round for dinner last night and made a few different curry dishes. My fridge and freezer are groaning with all the soups and stews I made during the last few days. Now I have LOTS of dahl as well. As soon as I have cleared some space I am making that fried rice.

Did you get a phenomenal hail storm? My lawn was white for ages xxx

Hi hashimoto

I agree about the frittata, I made a large one for lunches last week and cut into 4 pieces, I don’t mind eating the same food for a few days, just not for weeks like the soup! It’s also a good way to use up bits and bobs from the fridge/freezer as I hate waste.

My frittata had bacon, kale, peppers, red onion and a small amount of grated chilli cheese (I grate it and stick it in freezer as I can only eat small amounts as it’s got a decent kick to it)

I struggle with crudités as I’m not a salad or raw veg kind of person…I’d end up just eating the dip with a spoon haha

Hi please accept this long post
My first time ever joining a forum
95kg male ( always been 73-80kg) accident in work and now I am 95kg((
Just completed the first week))) stuck to the diet as stated in the book ( no treats, no snacks just what was written )
Day 1….keen enthusiastic and determined to do this
Day 2 …keen but avacardo!! Yuk
Day 3… Starving , all I can think about is food
Day 4…up all night starving, don’t think I can do this…
Day 5..woke up starving , feel drained and have no appetite ( took photos of my belly and disgusted , have the motivation again )
Day 6…lovely meals ( steak)
Day 7.. Lovely meals ( chicken )

This diet is so so hard, reading the book helped as what I thought was good eating was so wrong

I am here to be healthier and help others if I can, and hope I will have help also

What’s week 2 going to be like???

This is the first forum I have ever joined so hope I am in the right one!
Just finished the first week on the BSD
Day 1 ..keen enthusiastic, determined..etc
Day 2… Never ate the food I had to eat today ( so hard to eat )
Day 3 starving, didn’t sleep well , wanted food, started to think what the hell where’s the proper food ( but never gave in
Day 4.. Starving, took photos of my belly and was horrified !! I always saw my self as 75kg I am 95kg ( weighed my self a month ago so assuming I was 95kg )
Day 5 not starving but determined as I am still sad with the look at my belly
Day 6 what a day, great menu!! Steak!!!!
Day 7 what a day , but starving

Stuck to the diet religiously don’t feel as if I have lost allot, buying scales next week

Joined the forum so I can help others and hope others will help me

What shocked me was…I was in the armed forces for 10 years , fire service and even a qualified gym instructor…dr Mosley book taught me allot of what I thought was right was wrong!!!

Does it get easier on week 2???

Thankyou blissfulbabe. I don’t have a twitter account myself. Posting on facebook will reach a lot of people! 🙂

Hashminto and Lucia, thank you I am grateful for your advice and yes Lucia I have gone and walked for 40 min, hopefully by the end of eight weeks my dog and I will be the fittest on my block,. I am planning out my weekly menu so there will be no straying of it again. 😀😀😀

Well I am feeling very proud of myself today, I didn’t give in I smelt the chocolate, like i was advised to do, it smelt awful. How did that happen i WAS a chocoholic!!!! No cheesecake or cakes for me either. I can’t believe how quickly my taste buds have changed, this lifestyle change is amazing. I might have a hot cross bun later on. Week 6 todoy 20lb down.

You know I told you all I used to eat Chinese take away until it came out of my ears?

Well, guess what……
In the recipes section, there is a fried rice dish.
Will read it tomorrow and go food shopping. Mmmmmmmmmmm drooling already.

Love Lucia
Xxxxx

Hi reindeen,
Don’t worry, it is only for one hour you went….. Squiffy.
The other 23 hours you were perfect.
Regroup and set your menu for tomorrow.

Come for a walk with us all in Hashimoto’s woods. Smell the wild garlic?
See it’s all behind you.
Post a blog tomorrow to me and tell me you have done well with the day. Maybe do an extra 500 steps.

At least you didn’t have a screaming fit like I did earlier.

Keep going
Love Lucia
Xxx

I’ve signed it and posted the link on my Facebook page via the link on final signing page. I don’t have a Twitter account but I would think social media would be a good start to getting more signatures.

Hi gang,

Right, now where were we?
Ah yes, now about us all being professional regarding our BS800 diet. Let us draw a line under the Easter egg incident.
Now what were we saying, ah yes. Now tomorrow, I need to regroup. Yoghurt and fruit for breakfast.
Tuna salad lunch,
A big dollop of green leaf veg. ( dollop is a technical term) with maybe fish.

There I am back in the pattern,
To all those who ate chocolate, I know, just regroup. I put my head in the dining room cupboards and stayed there until IT had gone. You must go out and buy cupboards to prevent another situation.
To all those who didn’t eat chocolate… Smarty pants!
Love Lucia xxxxx

I use Lactofree semi skimmed milk – 200 mls for 80 calories and 6 gms of carbs. It onlly saves 4 gms of carbs but I am trying to keep to between 20-30 gms of carbs a day and every little helps!

So we’re looking at 5 fluid ounces of yogurt (10 tablespoons)? And measurements for meats (obvious, those) and cheese, fruits, vegetables, etc. will be X ounces weight?

This must sound a bit twitty to some; however, if I use your pre-printed recipe and err in volume vs. weight measurement, it can make a difference, sometimes substantial, in the calorie value of the food. And 800, with a rounding margin of 10, is the daily allowance, no? If it is sufficiently important that a book be written from the research, intended to make this critical tool more widely available, then twitty questions about measurement of ingredients in the recipes included in the books are not only fair, they are essential for compliance.

Thanks.

Well done skywalker that will be useful information for everyone 🙂

Hi reindeen, happy easter to you too.

You WILL get your mojo back. In fact after a heavy meal today you will be glad to get back on the BSD wagon 🙂

Hi jandz, I find fritatta is a good packed lunch choice, you can fry onion,peppers and mushrooms then add the eggs. I sometimes put a little grated cheese on before popping it under the grill. Use 4 eggs. Cut it in two and you have 2 packed lunches. Another good lunch is hummus or peanut butter dip, take crudites of cucumber, pepper, celery and carrot. Plenty of mid week veg!

Forget about yesterday, it’s the past. You can take from the experience that it doesn’t agree with you to eat a carb heavy meal 🙂

Breakfast: Easter Spiced Bun, warmed, creme fraiche on top

Lunch: Platter of hummus, piece of chedder, guacamole, sour cream, pickled jalapenos, olives, gherkins, pickled onions, cherry tomatoes. The plan was to serve this with some toasted slices of a cauliflower loaf I made yesterday. Bleuuugh, I’m afraid – didn’t like it at all, and the OH, who loves all things cauli, didn’t like it either.

Dinner: Roast lamb and gravy, brussels sprouts, carrots, mashed and baked swede, spicy red cabbage with red onion, apple and cranberries. (Not had this yet, but looking forward to it all in a while)

Drinks: Water, one tea with milk, two coffees and cream

No cals or carb counts for today, as I am having a couple of days (yesterday and today) on slghtly more relaxed eating, whilst still sticking to the basis ideas of the plan. I still have a week to go to the end of the 8 weeks, but will be doing another stint after that, so Easter weekend seemed like a good time to relax a little, and see what effect it had. I suppose that makes this week more of a 2:5 week!

Hi folks, there were 63 signatures for the petition last time I checked. Are there any uk residents who haven’t signed? We would love it if you joined us! 🙂

Good news is week 3 ended yesterday and another 2lb has gone…10lb in total 👍

Bad news is I’m not holding out much hope of a loss next weigh in as yesterday and today have been very very carb heavy.

Yesterday was a meal out and lots of alcohol and today was Easter lunch including pudding….and I’m suffering for it! Stomach is uncomfortable, feeling lethargic and a mild headache is lurking in the background. Also, thinking back now, I didn’t enjoy much of the food or drink so maybe this plan is realigning my taste buds aswell?

However, I’m not beating myself up for my actions, I’m learning from them, I’m actually looking forward to being back on plan tomorrow and at least now I know it’s the carbs that have made me feel blarghh for several years now !

Happy Easter to all, hope you had a lovely day. I must confess I fell of the wagon today and had a big dinner and lots of chocolate 😒😒😒but starting back now again and have started to read all the very inspirational reads again on this forum, hopefully I can get my motivation back and stay on the bed. thank you for all your support.

Sorry to take so long to get back, in Dunelm for £2.99 there are 5 cups, yolk separator and scraper printed with their sizes:

Fluids: Dry Volune:
1 Fl oz =2 tbsp =30 ml 1/2 tsp = 2.5 ml
4 Fl oz =1/2 cup =120 ml 1 tsp = 5 ml
8 Fl oz =1 cup =240 ml 1 tbsp = 15 ml
12 Fl oz =1 1/2 cup =360 ml 1 cup = 240 ml
16 Fl oz =2 cups = 480 ml 4 cup = 1 qt = 946 ml

Starting my week 8 tomorrow, don’t beat yourself up, it’s not a race and reduced input = reduced fat stores (usually).

Good luck everyone, I am beginning to loosen up on food items but still keeping sugar down to 30 mg or so each day.

I am the female

If you look at the recommended daily allowances for people, they only change between men and women, children and adults. Which one are you? The 4’11 female or the 6’5 male?

Yes even your small bowl could be getting you 20g of carbs. I find the eggs more filling, especially if I have three! (Still no carbs!) and I usually have a little bit of cheese and I cook it in butter. I don’t count calories but I do observe 16/8 every day. Soya milk is definitely an acquired taste but there are others you could try to. Don’t be tempted to go for skimmed milk though as bizarrely it has more carbs than full fat!

Reason I ask why 800? for say a 4’11 female vs a 6’5 male 800 is very different depending on which you are.

Lynne, I am having to ditch my favourite jumper too, no matter how many times I have washed it you can still see the shape of my old stomach. It looks bizarre!!

Christi, don’t we deserve a treat for all the hard work we have put in? OMG my lawn has just turned white with hailstones – perhaps Lucia was not joking about that snowball fight she should have with Bill!!!

Back to what I was saying – I intend buying myself some new clothes to celebrate once I am happy with my fat loss. I kept a £20 M and S voucher a friend gave me at Xmas. I was going to use it towards the cost of some new trousers – so glad I didn’t get round to it as I would now be giving them away!! 🙂

You did it Lucia, hurray!!!! 🙂 x

Lynne, I can’t wait for that one!!! 🙂

Newlife, so glad you were able to enjoy your Easter dinner! It’s still good without the carbs, isn’t it?? 🙂

Hi monkeyescapade, as well as those hidden sugars and palm oil could you just be storing excess water at the moment as well? A few people have experienced some weight increase which rapidly disappeared a few days later – and more weight besides with it.

I wish we had some warmth here too, strong winds and lashing rain at the moment! 🙂

Welcome to the forums Gabby, and all other Aussies!! Same goes for our American pals 🙂

Hi Lachlan, glad you are still with us. Bill and Cherrianne are our resident experts on blood sugars.

Keep posting we like to hear from you!! 🙂

Hi jpscloud, I second everything cherrianne said. I didn’t think you came across as lonely either 🙂

Hi everyone, I’ve been doing the diet for two days now and it seems to be working. I’m a bit confused, the diet seems to be encouraging you to eat nuts, seeds, fish, olive oil, chicken, plenty of veg, etc., but I’m finding it hard to fit all this into 800 calories a day. I have done it but feel very tired, I think I need more oil and protein but as I say I can’t fit it in. I am counting everything I eat and haven’t yet gone over the 800. Any ideas?

thank you so much Janet for the encouragement. 3 more weeks then on to the 5:2 or maybe 4:3 if I can manage it (still have another 60lb to lose , but trying not to think of that, just every 1lb!)
Interview, or rather company sounds dreadful – they might as well state than only those who are desperate or with no integrity need apply! Remember you are worth more and better!
hope you are having a good day off.

Cherrianne I can feel the hot sun on my back and the cooling sea round my ankles when I read your post. Oh, how I would love to see that dolphin mother and child!!! and swim in the sea. Last time I actually swam in the sea was in the cold North Atlantic on the Ardnamurchan Peninsula (highlands of Scotland) with my friend. It was sort of warmish on the beach but the water!!! OMG I can’t describe how cold it was. We both came out absolutely lobster red! I swear it was 10 times colder than the plunge pools at saunas.
I’m planning on some new cosies so I can swim in Perth.
The cuckoo pint started emerging a couple of weeks ago, along with the garlic. I picked a bunch of wild garlic leaves, as I always do at this time of year…….they are glorious added to a risotto at the end of cooking. What? Risotto? I can’t eat that anymore. It’s amazing how we still have to remind ourselves when old habits spring to mind. I made some garlic butter instead and froze portions to remind me of my spring ramblings. Lovely on veg!!!

Lucia, parts of the woods have larch growing and the smell of the needles as you tread on them is divine. Like the air is scented with pine.

🙂 🙂 🙂

Lucia…well done! I succumbed to 2 of those mini mini eggs (the size of your little finger nail) which are to decorate the cake my 13 year old has just made. Thought about having more and picked up my phone and have just read your posts. If you can do it, I can do this too and I have moved away from the smells of the stuff which will not help me to fit those smaller trousers. We are off to my mum’s house for a meal at 5-ish to accommodate men folk’s shifts. And I am taking a low carb egg and poached leek salad with caper vinaigrette while they all eat roast lamb and potatoes etc. It helps that my husband and friend are also doing this now. So I will have company… and the salad (pilfered the idea from the Sainsburys mag this month😊) does look very good…

Thanks for giving me strength and encouragement to avoid the chocolate. (As well as a belly laugh or 10. Just love your posts😂)

Hi all, captainlynne, hashimoto,
I made my meatballs, everyone else ( hubby, two daughter and three grandchildren) had the lamb, in the end the plums are being eaten raw, they are so sweet and juicy, had shop bought apple crumble, and lemon tart, would never have done that when I was not on the diet. So I got off lightly there! I enjoyed the meatballs too.
As to the clothes I am trying on now I have just got my dresses to go then I can get my holiday clothes out, ( have got two lots of family visiting over next 10 days, ( one set of six, another set of 3 + dog) just one day before we go away!) I now have no more room in my wardrobe I have so many clothes that now fit, or nearly, (they were all in vacuum bags under my bed!)
Although I don’t need any clothes for the foreseable future it would be lovely to treat myself and get something really special. Is that being really naughty of me? I don’t care though, I have had to buy stuff that fits because of being so overweight, not necessarily because I liked the stuff.
Rant over! here to losing more weight, week eight starts in the morning!

Ah thanx Cherianne, appreciate the words of comfort and wisdom. I hadn’t thought about the sugar in the stir fry sauces, good to be mindful of that and of course as you say palm oil. Have been sticking to apples only for fruit, refusing to look at mango and sticky rice, how tough is that. Oooh, laksa, delish, and healthy. All those things aside feeling very lucky to be here, it is such a wonderful country and on the diet front, doing what we can to be healthy, there are plenty of low carb choices. Body measurements also went into plateau, on the waist front, but I will be measuring again in few weeks time, dont want to do too soon in case no change.
As I’ve been travelling for a while I’ve only got my comfy clothes with me but when I get home to the UK I am looking forward to trying on those clothes that I bought a year or so ago in the hope that they now fit me comfortably rather than overstretched and confined to the back of the wardrobe. I will keep you all posted on that.

Hi sue and rose, I find a tspn of milled flax on my morning yoghurt works wonders! 🙂 It’s £1.99 from Aldi 🙂

Someone’s nearly ate it all. Glad it wasn’t me.
I think I handled that quite well, maturely, quiet, responsible, calm. I don’t think any of you noticed.

And I didn’t panic.

Phew.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Thanks Janet,
I realise about the carbs in porridge so I only have a small bowl (30g oats) and I make it with only a small amount of milk – or sometimes none at all. I also have milk in tea. I once tried soay milk but didn’t like it at all. I now wonder if I am exceeding 50g of carbs a day and this is preventing me progressing further. I sometimes have a 2 egg omelette for breakfast so I’ll probably try an egg/porridge/egg rotation to see if that helps.
Thanks again for your advice.