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posted by pmshrink on Did u hve good results after a slow start?Stalled weight loss – will it pick up?
on 16 Apr 2016 at 20:33 in Fast 800Hi Odette
Someone posted that as your fat cells empty they fill with water which can cause stalling – I don’t know if it’s true.
Have a look at Jenny Ruhls book if you haven’t ‘low carb problems solved’- it might help.
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Hi captainlynne
Gosh I still have a way to go to get to that! Well done though, I read an article the other day that said if you want the weight to stay off keep on the diet for a year! However ours is not a ‘diet’ so we will be on it forever, with a little jiggle here and there!
Looking forward to losing another 1 stone 9 lb. that’s my next goal, it’s the only way I can do it in little increments.
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posted by pmshrink on Did u hve good results after a slow start?Stalled weight loss – will it pick up?
on 16 Apr 2016 at 20:29 in Fast 800Hi Granmarob
It’s so frustrating isn’t it.
Have a look at Jenny Ruhls book ‘low carb problems solved’ that might help.
She also says in another of her books (diet 101) that the more out of control your blood sugar is the bigger effect a low carb diet has, which is why I’ve been very slow as my BS was ok.
What I did was really monitor my carbs keeping to 25-35g per day, upped my fats, and I do ‘intermittent fasting’ which really is just not having breakfast.
Dont despair, hope things get better for you
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Hi julia18togo
Jealous! I only have to look at forbidden food and I put weight on! However I will be gracious and say – well done you! I hope it keeps coming off for you
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posted by pmshrink on Did u hve good results after a slow start?Stalled weight loss – will it pick up?
on 16 Apr 2016 at 20:19 in Fast 800Hi Doola
Frustrating I know.
You could have a look at Jenny Ruhls book ‘low carb problems solved’ (ยฃ3 on kindle) it might help.
She has another more technical book – ‘diet 101’ in which she says the more out of control your blood sugars are the more of a big effect you ll get from low carb. My BS were ok so I think that’s why it’s slow for me.
I found really monitoring my carbs and trying to stay around 25-35g plus upping my fat, and having some intermittent fasting – which just means having no breakfast- helped me.
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posted by Fredforest on interested to find out others weight loss during the 8 weeks
on 16 Apr 2016 at 20:18 in Fast 800That’s interesting. I started out slow dieting last summer when I was 105kg (ish) and started the diet when I weighed 92.8. I ended the eight weeks at 82.2kg so shed 11.4% during the diet and another 11.6% of the original weight before that, 21.7% of the summer weight, I’ll take that.
Despite me being a svelte 33/34 inches waist, down from 38inches, a collar size is of 15.5/16 inches instead of 17.5 and I have not measured my chest but the suit I bought for a wedding last May looks like a tent, I am still in the overweight band for BMI at today’s weight of 80.8 kg (about 12st 10lb)
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I haven’t found an alternative to pastry flours, but I haven’t been looking. I have just steered clear or done quite a different crust: such as an almond based one which has a very different texture, so isn’t trying to be something it can’t.
It may be that chickpea or coconut flour would work for pastry, but I don’t have experience enough to know. I wonder whether a crustless quiche might be a better option. -
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Penny -
Hi julia and christine at the moment they are on offer at the moment – ยฃ30 instead of ยฃ70. ๐
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Hi Janet
Tamari is a type of soy sauce
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Hi Julia
That’s a great weight loss, the plan is working when so many others have failed for us all. Do you still have your wedding dress to try on? -
That will do me grand! As a lovely nun at school used to say – we actually used to call her Sister do me grand as she said it so often! ๐
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Hi julia18togo
I am going to get a spiraliser when I get home from hols, they sound like a good idea! I often have to cook for family too.
Thank you Judith for the info! Any idea how much they are, I still have birthday money!! to spend? -
Hi Judith
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posted by orchid on NEEDED – 800 diet ideas to help vegetarians and vegans
on 16 Apr 2016 at 19:38 in Fast 800Thanks Cherrianne – that looks really good. I have a 200g block of tufu in the fridge, that would make 4 portions. When I used it last, I did a stir-fry, enough for one meal then forgot about the rest of it and it had to be thrown out. With most things I make 4 (or more) portions and freeze for later days. From memory, tofu does not freeze well…. have you every managed to freeze tofu?
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Don’t forget to include all fluids in your count – it is not just water. If you like herbal teas, have a couple of cups of them during the day, that will add a 0.5l onto what you already have. I have to large glasses of fizzy water with iced lime, one at lunch and one at supper. That on top of other fluids takes me over 2l a day.
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Yes thank you cherrianne,I’ve pasted your replies into my notes to refer to they’re very helpful so I keep them thanks,input on here is fantastic .
Just myfitnesspal app which I keep food I’ve eaten and work calories keeps telling me to eat more it’s unhealthy etc !
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posted by orchid on interested to find out others weight loss during the 8 weeks
on 16 Apr 2016 at 19:25 in Fast 800Hi,
I lost 12kg over the 8 weeks and carried on a couple of weeks – now down 14.5kg. The expectation is a loss of between 10 and 20% of your starting weigh. I lost 12%; MM said be lost 11%. It probably depends on your starting weight, but also how quickly you get your body to start burning fat. -
posted by orchid on Wieght loss stats for women – can anyone give be their stats?
on 16 Apr 2016 at 19:14 in Welcome to the BSDHi Fantail, Welcome on board. I did not get as much weight loss the first week as some of the books examples. I felt I lost the same weight that I would have on any diet – in fact last time I had tried was the 5:2 and weight loss was about the same week one of that as it was week of this.
Re-reading some of the book, what MM says is that you should lose between 10 and 20% of your weight in 8 weeks (he lost 11%). I lost just over 12% which was two dress sizes & I was happy! Your 8 lbs is pretty good! On the range 10-20%, you should expect to lose between 26 and 52lbs total; on average 3 – 6.5 lbs per week.
The change I made in week two was to start checking my carbs as well as my calories and in weeks three took the scariest plunge and started eating full fat yoghurt instead of skimmed.
I had started with shakes and my carbs were 80-90g per day, although my calories ranged from 700-850. You need to get your body to burn fat and although everyone had a different threshold, that will be below 60g carbs per day. For me 60g works, and below that I get too many cramps at night. For others, they are managing fine and aim for 50g and under.
Use all 800 calories but restrict the carbs and you will keep the weight coming off. That may initially mean that the oats come off of the menu.
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And I just realised I am having self correct problems when I type too… 600k in a previous post was supposed to be 600g ! But I daresay that was obvious. It took me just over the 2 stone total loss. Slower than many but I have not been as good as you guys. Most importantly, however, I am sticking to the low carb principles for life. I have 8 kg to get back to my wedding weight which I had previously thought totally unachievable – thanks St Michael Mosley for showing so many of us the light at the end of the tunnel!
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Hi Julia,
Thanks for the advice.
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Judith – not at all . I only noticed your post after posting mine (it takes me ages with the phone rather than the laptop). Very useful info, thanks. I’ll take the plunge and buy one. I am often cooking for 5 in a hurry after work and the one I have takes ages to do 1 courgette. I am finding that the family will eat low carb provided there is enough to fill their plates – in practice that means a huge mountain of courgetti!
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Hi Natalie,
I too have been a late evening snacker – as you say, it’s a habit, and sometimes it’s hard to break. I’ve not done too badly on this diet but there have been times when I’ve given in to temptation. Like you, I can be an emotional eater so I understand about just wanting to eat, eat, eat whether I’m hungry or not – sometimes I just have to have a splurge if I’m feeling headachey, and sometimes that has worked better than painkillers! Then I can get back in the saddle and regain control. Over the weeks I have come to realise that, for me, the best way to deal with it is to have a drink – I am sure that dehydration is the main problem. If you have to have an evening snack, make it something “good”. Sometimes I go to bed feeling a bit peckish but once I snuggle under the duvet and am nice & warm I soon drop off, and often when I wake up I don’t feel hungry. If you can cut down on the evening snacks you will increase your overnight fasting time and that will help with weight loss. The occasional extra snack isn’t going to be the end of the world, it’s when it becomes a regular thing that it causes trouble – just remember, you are in control. If you are bothered by something, then give yourself something to do that gives you pleasure and distract yourself from whatever is causing you stress. I’m sure you will find a way through this, don’t despair. Take care, Rose -
posted by vanessah on Wieght loss stats for women – can anyone give be their stats?
on 16 Apr 2016 at 18:37 in Welcome to the BSDHi Fantail I started this week at 235and I lost 6lb and I used 600-700 cals my weight paused mid week so I upped my calories abit and am try to eat about 700 to 800 as I can get to obsessed and I need to be able to cope for the next 7 weeks. I confess that although I am pleased to have lost weight I lost this much on slimming world first week and I had got exited about how much people lost in the book but your right mostly men in there. So just hoping if I keep going I will see 3-4 lbs a week,more would be lovely:) hope you do ok this week
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I was getting severe headaches from drinking 2lt of water and felt dehydrated! Talked to a nurse friend and she said to increase my salt as too much fluid can ditute it and that causes headaches. Hhave cut back on water and increased salt a little and feel so much better. I know it was my first week and you can expect withdrawal symptoms but I have had this before when just increasing my water. I will gradually increase my liquids think I am on about 1 and 1/2 ltrs at the moment Lost 6lb at end of first week and am pleased but had hoped for more as I have been under 800 cals all week and believe I am doing what I’m supposed to. I need to lose a lot of weight -6 1/2 stone would be good
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Just wondering where you are Lachlan?
Haven’t heard from you for a while!
Are you AWOL, still struggling with those high fasting readings or have you had success?
Next time you pop in to read the posts can you let us know if you’re still hanging in there?
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Hi Alan,
under 7.8 2 hours after a meal is the non diabetic range so you are getting great results. Keep it up ๐
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posted by Fantail on Wieght loss stats for women – can anyone give be their stats?
on 16 Apr 2016 at 17:56 in Welcome to the BSDHi 800ers, I started at 257lbs and only dropped 8 lbs my first week even though I stuck to between 600 and 700 calories a day! The book implies there should have been a greater loss, though it only seems to have statistics for males. I haven’t had any rice, wheat etc but have had steel cut proper porriage oats for breakfast made with water and have had goats chees and the odd half glass of milk. Everything else has beet tuna, eggs, salads etc and I only use minimum balsamic which I also log. I have been measuring everything carefully, especially portion sizes. any ideas? I do have a thyroid issue but am on a small amount of medication for that.
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If you cant get nutrition information from the packaging, the nhs calorie counter is really good
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hi feltwicked, the one I have in the house is (per 100g) 893 cals, fat 100g, 87g of which are saturates, 0g carbs, 0g protein.
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I realised it was a typo Bill! I know you can reach your target! ๐ The hardest part is the beginning ๐
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Hi Julia, hope you don’t mind me jumping in … I spent a lot of time researching spiralisers and as I have arthritis in my hands I wanted a gravity fed one as they are easier to operate. The one I got is called cuisique, I ordered it from amazon. It has a jug which catches all your spiralised veg instead of it going on the worktop/floor ๐ I really like it ๐
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He typo, that should read 14.5 stones.
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Great. Do you happen to know a calorie value for a generic coconut oil?
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Lucia – is the spiralizer gizmo you have any good? I have a small handheld one like a pencil sharpener but it is slow and practically kills me every time I use it. I have looked at the ones which sit on suckered feet on the worktop but there seem to be conflicting reviews over their effectiveness. Good investment or do I stick with the cheapo handheld one?
Your meal sounded lovely.
I am a happy bunny today – had some cheesecake and a wee bit of ice cream last night as it was my daughter’s birthday. Oh the wickedness…. but I still lost another 600k since my previous loss just 3 days ago๐ Yet only a few weeks ago I was also at a looooong plateau. So hang in there!
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20,000 steps!!! Lucia you put me to shame!!! That is utterly fantastic xxx
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Hi Christine – you enjoy your sunshine while you can – though I won’t complain if you bring it over with you! I’m really pleased you’re having a good time:)
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Ooh, Lucia, I bow to the masterchef!! I lurve my spiraliser! It’s so easy to make a quick meal – vegetable ‘spaghetti’ with cream cheese stirred in and a sprinkling of parmesan. Cheap and cheerful.
Hopefully you have some mince to put in your freezer to make it again!!
You can spiralise white(or red) cabbage, onion and carrot – stir in a mix of plain yoghurt and a bit of mustard – fabulous BSD cole slaw! Oh, but I add the yoghurt at the point of eating it and then the coleslaw veg stay fresh and crisp in an air tight bag in the fridge!
I’m onto the final batch of photo’s – but now the sun is showing his face again I’ll pop outside to do a few jobs there ๐
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hi Hashimoto
I used one of those fan-dangled new gizmo thingies.
It makes a carrot and zucchini into spaghetti.Just steamed it and put the mince and tomatoes on the top.
I am so proud of myself , look at that meal , not a chip butty in sight.
Going giddy now.
I am the chef master. I have mastered the chef-ful-ness of it all.
Love Lucia
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Oh and my salad today has
Silver skin pickles.
Lettuce
Cucumber
Red onion
Spring onion
Carrot
Celery
Pineapple
Peppers
Beetroot
Pickled cabbage
Sun dried tomatoes
Cherry tomatoes
Beef tomatoesHa.
Beat that!!!!๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โน๏ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐โน๏ธ๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ค๐โน๏ธ๐๐ต๐โน๏ธ๐ ๐๐ฐLove Lucia
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posted by Fredforest on interested to find out others weight loss during the 8 weeks
on 16 Apr 2016 at 16:00 in Fast 800I lost about 10kg over the 8 weeks. I have stayed on it as I want to get down to 75kg, just under 5kg to go.
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Hi Christie 1948.
If those scales give you any problems throw them out the bathroom window, I did.
Just waiting to see if I have a new set on the way.Don’t worry about weight, just get into the flow of it all.
I had a plateau yesterday. Am I worried? Nope. Just getting in with it all.I am now able to walk 20,000 steps in a day on the weekend. A month ago, I got out of breath just going into the kitchen,
Please share descriptions of your meal plans. It helps us all.
Love Lucia
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Really wish I had done couple weeks readings before I started this to see how bad I was !
My readings seem to be reducing two hours after meals from 9.4 day before I began this down to 7.6 now 6.8 two hours after meal of salmon salad and full fat yoghurt n berries.
Don’t know if these are good results or what to expect ?
Thanks everyone for input
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Yes its fine to use it, just count the calories if you are trying to stick to the 800.
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Hi Judith
SORRY! If it’s any consolation, we will be back in wet old Blighty on Monday,
daughter has told us it’s not stopped raining since we came away! She won’t have got much gardening done!
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Hi Lucia
It’s sunny here too! Not looking forward to the midnight homecoming on Sunday night, I believe it’s really cold?
As usual we will be hitting the ground running, however I will look forward to getting on the scales on Monday morning, then sigh in dismay when I see how much weight I have put on!
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Hi I have just started the BSD too. I am on my second day, and so far finding it easy to follow the only problem I have is I am not drinking enough water may be yesterday I had 1.5l, how do i increase my water intake.
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Hi, if you are a British Citizen and havenโt already signed our petition would you mind sparing a minute to sign? Thanks ๐
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Wow Bill, you’re going some, yourself!! 6 inches of the waist is fantastic! You’ll be in waist size 38 before you know it! ๐