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  • Hi Sunshine-girl – your halo is back on and just as shiny at sparkly as before. Your blood glucose is seriously good. You will definitely reach your goal of 73.9. The Zumba class will help. I have noticed that when I do more steps – especially fast walking – my weight drops faster and my blood glucose is lower.

    My hubby also likes a glass of whiskey in the evening and a glass of wine with dinner. When I couldn’t drink wine I discovered Bailey’s Irish Cream which I love and doesn’t cause any problems – no matter how much of it I drink. It was lovely in coffee also. I was so shocked when I entered it into fatsecret as it is seriously high in carbs. So reluctantly – no more Bailey’s.

  • posted by  Dona Rosa on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Took a risk and had a naked look in mirror today. Now there is something obviously happening. I appear to have lost some tyre under my boobs, the waist is slowly appearing and the lower portions look flatter. Took a risk and tried on a skirt that I bought off Ebay and then got depressed when there was a 3″ gap to fasten zip but I could fasten it now but will not risk wearing it yet until it is a bit looser on hips. Very impressed. Oh and on a lighter note, the knickers are not rolling down any more. Grated lots of carrot, fennel, red and white cabbage to go in salads this week. Chicken ready to go in oven – well done to everyone. Forca! as we say in Portugal.

  • posted by  Curly1 on Starting 10th October 2016
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    Hi all, count me in starting 10/10. Fingers crossed it’s a date to remember as the first day in a bright future. Here’s to us all getting healthier and happier!

  • Krysia, a bit like Verano I fell into a vat of alcohol, in my case it was vodka and tonic (slimline) which made my halo slip round my neck and my calories to around 1000. Weight increase, now 74.3 (gained 0.3 for the sake of a drink). Must learn my lesson but weekends are so difficult. Hubby always has a whiskey before dinner on Sat and Sun, then he has a couple of glasses of red wine with the meal. I have seriously gone off red wine but know if I open a bottle of white for myself I will drink it, so I have a couple of vodkas instead. That’s it, over and done with, still got 2 days to reach 73,9 and have a zumba class tomorrow evening, that might shift it.

    Calculation for today is 600 calories and 9 carbs, that’s bacon, egg, mushroom and canned tomatoes for brunch (250 cal and 4 carbs) and I have trusted the recipe book with the Chinese Duck coming in a 340 cals and 5 carbs. Leaves room for a snack BUT NO ALCOHOL, I have to promise myself, just 2 days and that is all.

    Morning bBlood glucose 4.8 (87)

    Have a good day all.

  • posted by  Lucky Maneki on Hello :-)
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    Hello everyone! How are you all, I am just checking in to let you know I am ok, just got a hectic and… troubling personal situation at the mo which is taking up my time and headspace. Hello to all you newbies too, good luck to you all 😊

    I’m still being good, reasonably good, I did have a few vinos last night while watching the rugby league grand final, and then my favourite dart player was in the final, but I had walked for three and a half hours Pokemon hunting with my two boys! My weight loss will have to come at its own pace from now on, I have decided. Being sensible and moving more is the key for me.

    I’m also doing NaNoWriMo again this year, so October is prep month. I’ll see you all in December then… 😂👍

  • posted by  Shimmerling on Starting 10th October 2016
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    What a good idea to have smaller meal in preparation, @gadgetgirl! I hope the program works for you! I have never done anything like this, either, so I’m keen to see how my body responds! I hope that you are able to acheive no BSL problems! That would be so awesome!

    I’m based in Australia, so I’ll be kicking things off a bit earlier than you guys in the UK. So you’ll hear all about how I am going each week nice and early!

  • That’s awesome Mixnmatch!… well done!
    That’s an amazing total loss

    Like you I also use Sunday as my weekly weigh day
    I’ve lost 7lbs… and 2 inches off my waist
    I am really pleased !… and motivated!
    They are not going on again!

    I’ve got 4lb to lose to be 13 stone something – so that’s next weeks goal… as I know it will slow down now.
    I’m going to try and reduce how often I stand on the scales … I get obsessive otherwise.

    Best meals last week:
    Red Thai curry
    Courgetti bolognese
    Halloumi kebabs
    And
    Yesterday’s brekkie… which was

    red pepper cut in half…, lined with ham, whisk 2 eggs and pour in on top of the ham… 25g mozzeralla sliced on top … and bake for 25mins on 200c
    I found it in a different recipie book…their BSD quick start guide, as I couldn’t face avacado!

    Just had my first piece of fruit for a week – an apple…
    It was so sweet!

    Keep going everyone… I can’t wait to hear all your total losses for the week tomorrow

  • posted by  Wendy1947 on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hello Deb
    Hope you are feeling better today! You sound very well organised with your forward planning. I’m a bit more haphazard with having done a large shop last week of many vegetables & most things on the list in the recipe book. Each day I tend to poke around in the fridge to see what I can put together.
    I was most interested to read that Canada has a Thanksgiving Day because I ignorantly thought only the USA had that.
    I hope you enjoyed your birthday dinner Happy 🎉 🎁💐

  • posted by  Ariana on Week of 9/26 starters let's keep each other on track!
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    Hi Cecily – yes I may have too much cheese but not eating fish means I can have more than you 😉
    I should do more batch cooking – I’ve just got a larger freezer but it seems to be full already with pizza, chips and garlic bread though I’ve got lots of frozen veg in too. I will have a go at making a stew and soup to have during the week; my son will eat the same as me when I cook so maybe I’ll stop buying separate food in for him apart from his packed lunch stuff. I’ve bought some tofu but I’m not sure what to do with it.
    NewForestDieter – I have to eat later on my yoga days but I’d find it hard to have nothing after 6pm – you’re doing well. I’m finding it easier to wait to eat and to be hungry – I’m enjoying what I eat more for doing so. I’m lucky to live with an adult son who has no expectations of me cooking for him – he sees it as a bonus when I do and is supportive of me losing weight. When I did have 3 children at home I found it much harder to do my own thing.

  • posted by  Cecily on Week of 9/26 starters let's keep each other on track!
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    NewForest and Ariana, I don’t eat meat either, although I do eat fish.
    I’ve found the amount of cheese I can have and stay under 800 calories is minuscule which is frustrating for a cheese obsessed greedy guts like myself. However, going for really strong cheeses has helped: 25g of goats cheese crumbled over a salad adds a lot of taste.

    Veg and lentil soup has been my saviour on cold days. Also, harissa paste. A stew of mixed veg and beans with a large blob of harissa is very warming and still under 200 calories.

    KJ – all the sympathy in the world! I have 3 kids aged 10, 14 and 17. Making pasta, pizza, sausage and mash for them, it does feel like a cruel punishment. We watched a movie together last night and I nibbled on one Pringle while everyone else helped themselves. At least when it’s chilli or curry it’s easier to avoid the carbs they tuck into.

  • Verano – yes I am up for it and would like to carry on. I also do much better in smaller manageable chunks and have found it much easier to think of it as a week at a time.

    Yesterday we had slow roasted lamb shoulder for dinner (not something I would normally eat because it is too high fat, but it was close to sell by date at Tesco and really cheap). My portion had rather a lot of the most yummy fat in it. I felt so full after eating it and still felt absolutely stuffed with food when I went to bed that I was dreading the scales this morning (obviously all the brainwashing from my stints at the Rosemary Conley slimming clubs).

    But when I got on the scales I had lost 3/4lb. I am stunned and finally beginning to believe that fat is not the ‘bad guy’. Carbs were a bit low at 19 because the fat from the cream cheese with my tuna at lunch and the lamb at dinner took my calories to 825.

    Verano – your averages look good. Averaging it out like that gives us flexibility to incorporate BSD into our lives more easily.

    Sunshine-girl – I hope you were up early polishing your halo this morning and that it looks really shiny and sparkly. Carbs and calories are looking good.

    Loopylou, hope you had a lovely evening with friends – I bet they loved the food as med friendly food is so tasty.

    Frog – well done for the weight loss. I agree about the good dark chocolate – It is still my indulgence of choice, especially since I became allergic to wine (sob sob)

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on Started Mon 4 Oct – First Weigh in
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    Congratulations, great results for a first week. Don’t forget though that some will have been retained water from both measurements and weight results, and next week will probably be quite a bit slower drop.

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on What's your next mini goal?
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    Woohoo, as at this morning, I am under 80 kg, under 175 lb and have lost 40 kg in total since I started last Feb. Onwards and downwards 😀

    Cecily, at least your craving item is acceptable on Med style, when no longer calorie restricted, in fact it sounds so nice I will give it a try sometime. I love all three but have never combined them like that.

  • My first official Fast 800 weigh-in this morning, I have lost 5 pounds and 1.3% body fat. I have also lost 1cm off my waist. I am doing my official weigh and measure on Sunday as I will usually not have time on Monday morning, so this has only been 6 days. I am also now under 80 kg according to my rough calculations, and under 175 pounds in weight. Only two pounds to go now until I have lost 6 1/2 stone! Maybe next week, fingers crossed.

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on pasatta ?
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    Be a little careful which passage you use as I have noticed that some use added sugar as well as the natural tomatoes. I always read the ingredients as well as the nutrition table when weighing up whether to buy or not. I use it fairly regularly, counted, but am not a diabetic, so as suggested, if you are check for blood sugar spiking.

  • posted by  Sazzle50 on Started Mon 4 Oct – First Weigh in
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    I have had my first weigh in this morning. I’ve lost 9.9lbs!!! I’ve lost 4 inches from my waist and 2 inches. From my hips! I have taken the weigh and measurements 3 times because surely that can’t be right?

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on can vegetarians do this?
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    Indeed, I have got to the stage now when I can find things ‘too sweet’ where before the diet I had a very sweet tooth. You will be amazed how sweet some things like tomatoes start to taste when the taste buds are retrained.

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on Meal replacements
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    I use protein shakes on my badminton session days, instead of an evening meal. I have been using For Goodness Shakes Ultimate Protein, which is 40g protein and only 10g carbohydrate. I have now bought some whey protein though and will be making up my own shakes, hoping that is a little cheaper in the long run, and definitely more flexible as I can add it to smoothies and the like.

  • posted by  Pickles on Starting 3rd October Fast 800 diary
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    Been on the bsd for a week. Lost 6 pounds but fasting blood sugars down from 12 to 6! Pleased with the result. I have so much weight to lose that I cannot think about it,but will stick to it.

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on Ingredients and shopping
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    Congratulations on halving the dose 😀 if you look at my diary this week in Fast 800 it looks like I lived on chicken, spinach and salad, but I tried to change things at every meal, different seasonings and flavourings, hot or cold. Variety is the spice of life, but that doesn’t mean it needs to be a problem if you eat the same thing a few days running, particularly if you like it.

  • posted by  LindaA on My eight weeks….
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    Hi Nettle
    Enjoy your time here in Sydney, you’ll love it!
    My Dad said to me today that I am now too skinny! I’ve learnt to ignore those comments regardless who they come from and I just don’t respond. My husband, Mum and rest of the family continue to tell me how proud they are of me!
    I bought a pair of size 10 jeans and a size 8 cardi this week and I still don’t quite believe it! At 60kg, I now weigh less than what I was at both my wedding and before having 2 kids.
    I don’t have a full length mirror at home, so when I go into a change room, I get a shock at how I look and how much weight I’ve lost (100g shy of 30kg now).
    I’m continuing to avoid all refined sugars, simple carbs (and polyunsaturated oils, but that’s another story!) and will continue that for the rest of my life.
    For all those thinking of starting, just do it, you won’t regret it!
    Cheers
    Linda

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on Starting 3rd October Fast 800 diary
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    Yesterday’s calories were a little lower than usual at 775, but I had had enough so didn’t go picking to fill them up. Carbs were quite low too. I usually aim at 40 but yesterday came in at 33. Tea was the lovely trout fillet with half a roasted cauliflower steak, and cauliflower, garlic, chilli and red pepper mash. The mash was really tasty, but was originally intended to be more steaks, they fell apart into florets when I sliced it so I improvised 😊 I also made some fresh parsley sauce and thought I’d try some chia seed and coconut flour to do the thickening. After about half an hour I panicked that it was never going to thicken and tossed in a teaspoon of corn starch as well. It was still a little runnier than normal but had thickened beautifully this morning in the pan. I also tried the Greek style yoghurt with a teaspoon of cinnamon which made a fantastic dessert.

  • posted by  GadgetGirl on Starting 10th October 2016
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    Hello All – I am starting on Monday too – have spent the last 2 weeks reducing portion size in readiness!
    I am a bit apprehensive as I have never eaten such a low cal diet. I have been doing LCHF (low carb high fat) which I loved but didn’t lose much weight.
    I am 54 T2 5’2″ weighing 11 st 4 pounds. I started Metaformin 3 months ago. I take 3 tablets a day and I plan to reduce gradually when I start losing weight (around the 1 stone mark).
    Not sure if I am going to rid myself completely as I am Indian, both my parents dies of diabetic complications and I had gestational diabetes when I had my son! But it can’t harm to try. Good luck everyone!

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on Starting 3rd October Fast 800 diary
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    First official weigh in and re-measure this morning, and I am pleased to say my weight has dropped by 5 pounds to 12 stone 6, my body fat by 1.3% to 39.3%, and my waist down one cm to 89cm. I count that as a very good start 😀 I am planning on another single meal day today after the success yesterday, we have friends coming round and I am doing roast chicken, so want to have a reasonable plateful. I will stick to liquid until then, although may have milk in a tea at some stage if I fancy it. Redbush tea first, then some green tea probably. Black tea later, and a sparkling water in wine glass for the evening meal.

  • DAY 6 of 7

    Yesterday:
    Calories 1106!!!
    Carbs 50!!!

    Made a fatal mistake yesterday of not logging my day’s food in the morning just muddled through and the added a couple of glasses of wine!!!
    BUT my averages for this week are
    Calories 864
    Carbs 32.7
    So ok my calories are over and it’s unlikely I can get them down overall in just two days but my carbs are less than the 35g I was trying for.
    Weight the same this morning. I seem to have developed a pattern of I day loss and the next stable. That will suit me!!!

    Have the family coming for lunch today, mezze buffet style, so should be able to stay within the plan.

    But I have been thinking about where to go from here. Tuesday will be the beginning of week 15 for those of us on the second ‘8’. We would have time for one more 8 week cycle before ‘the day’. Starting October 25th and ending with a weigh-in on December 20th!!

    Don’t know who, if anybody, will be carrying on but I realise, that for me, I need smaller manageable chunks rather than looking at the whole picture.

    Anyway we have two weeks left before then. Anyone up for ‘Penultimate 7 day challenge October 11th’ ??

    Meanwhile, hope you all had a good day yesterday everyone seems to be doing really well.
    Keep on keeping on!

  • posted by  Ariana on Week of 9/26 starters let's keep each other on track!
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    Hi – I started on the 26th September too and I lost 7lbs in the first 2 weeks so I am 14 10 now but nothing since – it’s good to see other veggies and those of you that are measuring your loss – I need to get a tape measure and scales for the kitchen as I’m guesstimating my food intake.
    I’m eating porridge/ seeds for breakfast then salad for lunch; I have a small evening meal with lots greens. I am snacking on nuts/ natural yoghurt and still having a slice of rye bread daily. I’ve cut out pasta, pizza, rice and cakes but I’ve hit this plateau. I can use eggs, cheese, lentils and beans to make my meals; I often have an avocado with my salad and olives.
    I’m concerned that the darker days are going to make me crave carbs – I find I’m happy to avoid a lot of the food I’ve got in for my 20 year old son – I’m having many more types of tea to stave off eating. I go to yoga classes two evenings a week and can’t eat much beforehand. As a veggie I reckon I need to plan my meals a little better and maybe cut down on the nuts and be more active.

  • posted by  Shimmerling on Starting 10th October 2016
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    So exciting, Natalie and Claire! We will rock this! Any tips from someone who has been on the journey before, Natalie?

    I have type 2, as well has high blood pressure. Plan on kicking both of them in the next 8 weeks!

    I’m happy to be a sounding board if you are having any issues and you need someone to chat to!

  • Kjandtheboys – Thanks, I was amazed too! Luckily my kids no longer live with us and i’m vegetarian whereas hubby isn’t so not so hard for me. Plus he gets home later after i’ve eaten and i’ve NEVER eaten after 6pm….I believe this makes a difference.

    Good luck to you too:)

  • posted by  Natalie on Starting 10th October 2016
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    I am! I actually successfully tried the BSD earlier in the year but put it back on when I went back to my old habits. I’ve had a couple of false starts trying to get back into it, starting again tomorrow for real. I have pre-diabetes and about 25 kg to lose so I’m determined to keep it off this time. No excuses! My health issues are reasons to do this, not reasons to put it off again!

  • posted by  missymaybe on can vegetarians do this?
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    thank you – that is helpful , a few tweaks then…. I have to say I am not looking forward to trying to cut out the sugar , but I do recognise that this must indeed be the culprit!!! I am not a fan of the 70/80% chocolate – it is the sugary stuff I like 🙂 , but , i think it is just a matter of re training the taste buds!

  • posted by  Janrg1 on Starting 19th September
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    I remember years ago when they used to wire people’s jaws together as an aid to weight loss. I was in my late teens at the time and one of the women who worked with my mum had this done. She lost a lot of weight in the first few weeks then started to put some back on. She then admitted she was liquidising food and sucking it up through a straw. Mars bars and everything. So the only way is to learn what you can and can’t eat in the way we are.

  • posted by  Carb_Addict on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    @ Happygirl: sorry to hear that the scales have not moved yet. I had the same experience when I started on the regular BSD, which is why I amped it up to the 800 kcal. Assuming that you are weighing, tracking etc and sticking to 800 kcal day and up to 50g carbs, there is NO WAY the scales will not start moving at some point. (I am not using the book recipes so am relying on MyFitnessPal to track for me.) Don’t forget that at certain times of the month we girls retain water even if we are losing fat, and that some bodies go into shock at the beginning and cling on on to everything. The only way the scales will not move if you are sticking to the programme is if you have an underlying medical issue such as an underachieve thyroid. So keep pushing forward, see what Wednesday brings and take it from there ok? (I’d say that if you stick to the programme religiously for three to four weeks and the scales have not budged an ounce then is the time to go see a doctor – but give it a substantial go first.) Having been there myself I know it’s super-frustrating, but it WILL happen. Good luck!

  • posted by  Carb_Addict on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Good morning all from the United Arab Emirates. Official week one weigh in brings me to 2.2kg or 4.9 lbs loss. (Only 100g lost overnight but that’s ok.) Definitely feeling ‘skinnier’ and energy levels much higher. Expecting a slow-down too this week but intend to bulldoze my way through it. I also have a hankering to hit the gym which I intend to act on this week. Mind you, I have also woken up with a desire to eat a large margarita pizza (or two…) for breakfast!!!

    I also want to say thank you for your kind words. I’m finding this group a wonderful source of support as I face up to taking back control of my health. It’s so good to know others are travelling the same path and I am grateful for you all. Have a good day everybody!

  • posted by  Sierravalley on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Great job everyone!

    Week one down and I’m ecstatic. Down 13#s in one week, but no loss this morning. That’s ok. I know most of it was water weight and boy can my joints feel it. When I look at the amount of calories of things that I would mindlessly eat, I’m surprised that I don’t weigh 300 pounds. I’m bracing myself for zero loss this week so I won’t get discouraged and cheat. That’s usually what happens.

    Didn’t do measurements last week so I can only go by my clothes. Able to wear a few pairs of pants I couldn’t wear 2 weeks ago.

  • posted by  Shimmerling on Starting 10th October 2016
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    I’m actually super excited to start on this plan. I have read the book cover to cover over the last two days, and I’m super jazzed to kick this plan off! I’m going to nip some weight in the bud!

    Is there anyone else starting the regime MONDAY?

  • posted by  Esnecca on pasatta ?
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    Tomatoes are proportionally high in sugar, so being vigilant on serving size is a must. I looked it up on MyFitnessPal, and a 100 gram serving of Cirio Passata has 35 calories and 6 grams of carbs, 4 of them sugar. If you’re not diabetic or if you’ve tested your blood sugar after eating passata before and it hasn’t spiked, then it seems like it would be entirely manageable. Like shalimar says, it’s all about the counting so nothing sneaks up on you.

    Congratulations on your great first week!

  • posted by  MummyBadgers on High morning blood sugar
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    Yeah …my weird thing and may have been why I am registering as impaired is that I can take a reading 5 minutes out of bed and I read 4.5 mmol and 30 mins to 60 mins later after a shower and before breakfast it’s up around 6.5-6.6.

    I suspect having that shower, toweling off and getting dressed is enough to stimulate the release of glucose. Thing is if I don’t have breakfast, I can still be over 5 mmol a few hrs later.

    I wonder if I cheat and head to the pathologist straight from bed would I read around 5…I’d like to test that theory out LOL

    If I have breakfast and takes a reading 2hrs later , it’s sub 5.

    Very confusing I have to say.

  • posted by  TrishaDawn on One meal?
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    I can’t manage one meal a day myself, but I have a friend who used a regular 1200 calorie diet who only had coffee with milk during the day and enjoyed the rest of her food budget in the evening. She lost all her excess weight this way and even now keeps it up as a lifestyle. She still sticks to her calorie limit during the week and allows herself to enjoy whatever she fancies at the weekend. She has maintained this lifestyle for a number of years now with no health issues showing up, so if it works for you, I don’t see why you shouldn’t.

  • posted by  PatC on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Well done everyone, even if it’s a pound gone, or for some lots of pounds,it’s the beginning of an amazing eight week journey with a lot of like minded friends. Carb_Addict I nearly cried when I read your post, I was like your mum and did every diet known to man, but fortunately my daughters ignored my dieting and ate healthily, which I have not done for 48 years! It IS different this time – you have a lot of people travelling with you, and it’s your time for making the inside and outside of you match and to feel really good about yourself, you lost five pounds this week, imagine that again for next weigh day – woo hoo and more bunting!!!!

    This doesn’t feel like a diet, the food is good and filling, I look forward to my meals without worry I am eating the wrong things, and I hope that the weight will go down slowly and surely – now I am going to skip to the kitchen and have a poached egg and some avocado, tonight veg curry and cauliflower rice, with some strawberries to follow, still finding it hard to drink enough water, but actually slept well for the first time in eight days, so that’s good. Stay strong everyone.

  • @newforestdieter: that’s amazing…. Well done…. I’m intrigued about if I were to have a non fasting day if I’d head straight to the bread bin😁😱
    I’m finding weekends the hardest as all the children and hubby are home and I’m preparing meals for them all which includes things that for me are off limits at the moment…. Made potatoe dauphinois for hubby to accompany the salmon and green beans we were both having…. It was delicious but omg I was desperate to dive into the potatoes!!!
    Fortunately I’m spurred on by need/want to have a good reading on the scales on Tuesday!
    I honestly had zero willpower before starting on this 800cal fast diet. I must have super will powers at the mo as I haven’t seen swayed once.
    Good luck for tomorrow and getting back onto the new normal regime. Keep us posted of your progress x

  • posted by  Frog on Sobering thoughts…
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    that was weird – she had to follow an 800 calorie diet pre surgery, and the woman ‘only’ lost 3 stone after the operation- I know that is quite a lot, but people on this have certainly lost more in similar period.
    Had a look at the pre surgery diet – pretty carby.

    required watching every time I get a chocolate craving!

  • posted by  Frog on Sobering thoughts…
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    Just watched panorama program (well listened to a lo of it, bit squeamish about watching operations & stuff)
    – scary

    the people having weight loss surgery aren’t that much heavier than I was – and they are taller.