Thanks RUTH i’m on4 mgs too and have been for a long time ..i feel for you re the cough coz i have it too…dry cough is also listed as side effect of perindopril
other health probs i have make me dizzy and a bit disorientated at times, but yesterday was scary..i hope thats a one off ! X

Yowzer, PS – dizziness and lightheadness is the first side effect mentioned for perindopril. I am on 4mg, so if your dose is much higher than that your doc may need to check you.

I do not think it is the low carb, just the fact that you have probably reduced your blood pressure along with your weight. Lots of studies show that weight loss lowers BP, and you have lost a lot of kilos!

Look up perindopril on google. I want to come off my small dose cos it makes me cough

Hope it sorts

Just wondered because your fast did sound like a real fast. Do you like the discipline of total fasting? I have recently acquired some books on fasting for spiritual reasons …. but i’ve usually only done a fast for dietary reasons … and because i used to feel quite cleansed and almost euphoric.

Fasting is a day of 0 calories. Just water to prevent dizziness and fainting. coffee and tea is 0 also.
800 calories is not what I call a fast. It is more like a cut in food.

Hi JAN just caught yrmessage as i was climbing into bed.. I have just blown the candles out and said an extra
little prayer as i did so x
Yes i’m on perindopril ace inhibitor ..i didnt know it had contraindications with low carb,that might explain a lot!
Mainly dizzy and nauseous today when i stood up…ok seated,but in the car today ( as passenger) was dizzy and nauseous for most of the journey
saturday was ok seated but into a hellish scenario whenever i stood up,and i dread it happening again, coz i cdnt even get as far as the kitchen coz the world was whirling round in a terrifying way and everything was going dark.
I think that was vertigo and i think thats a balance problem isnt it usually caused by ear trouble.
Feel fine now,like a spring lamb,no dizziness or sickness,on top of the world and hoping for a good sleep!
Hope you sleep well and deeply xox

Hi Shimmerling and all – great to see this new thread as I recommence today. I enjoyed several weeks & success on the BSD in April/ May this year before some planned surgery. I have continued with many of the principles since this time but not such low calories daily. I’m ready to reset to 800 calories again and try to drop the daily wine habits. I’m 54 and my goal is to lose 10% and some of that belly fat!! Good luck to everyone starting today 🍓🍆🍏

When you say you are fasting is it a complete fast …. or are you talking about the 800 cal fast?? I’ve been on fasts before, up to 3 weeks … drinking coffee, tea, broth … and vegetable juice if i was really feeling hungry at work. I used to enjoy fasting …. last month i did not.

What is in your Spanish Omelette … i’ve never made one myself although i have had one in a restaurant.

Hi frog

Thanks for the kind words, and may your Monday be less wonky.
🙂

MissusO … Hi! Glad to be on the journey with you ……………. and everyone!!

Morning all! I’m starting today, and already feeling better that there are so many all kicking off today. To be truthful, I’m returning from a stint with BSD I did earlier where I lost 9 kg and then fell off the wagon in a spectacular way. I’ve since regained 3 kg but have also regained some motivation, so here I go again. I’m also in Australia, in sunny Cairns, and I’m hoping to drop 12 kg with a goal weight of 72 kg. I found last time that the food wasn’t the problem, it was my high stress levels with work and anxiety which led to the odd relaxing wine, and it was pretty much downhill from there. So, I’ve taken some time off work, and I will be practicing mindfulness and gratitude. Looking forward to the next eight weeks!

Oh Yowser

That’s so kind thankyou.

Re your b.p. It does sound like you are most likely over medicated now, especially if you are on an ace inhibitor, your low carb will be defo affecting the function of that drug, I’m sure it will be easily sorted, do you feel dizzy if you stand up abruptly, or is it all the time.

FROM article …. link below :

But in a trial conducted for Trust Me by researchers at University College, London, those volunteers who took turmeric pills experienced no such boost to their body’s cancer-fighting capabilities.

By contrast, those who took a teaspoon of turmeric powder every day – by mixing it into yogurt or a glass of warm milk – saw a cancer-fighting gene in their cells become more active.

Dr Mosley said: “Turmeric seems to work if you take it with fatty foods and if you cook with it, but not if you just take it in the form of a supplement.”

INteresting on TURMERIC
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1940853/fish-oil-pills-taken-by-millions-of-brits-could-be-completely-useless-says-bbc-health-expert/

Maybe you should take the fish oils with fatty meal too???

STACI if youre not counting cals or carbs,you can just enjoy your apples! They will do you good.
This time of year i love russet apples,which will be in shops any day now, and i’ll find it difficult to keep to just one a week ! 🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁 x

I’m not counting calories. I’m just doing the med-style eating

I checked it online ….. is this paper for Australia, UK ???? Not sure there are any stories in there that i even want to read the headlines about …. totally not interested in the entertainment biz. Actually i’ve pretty much stopped watching even TV news … but that is beside the point.

I’m i Canada …

Fish Oils …. all i know about that is that the Omega 3’s are the good ones.

Going to do a search on the MoS ….. actually got the story you refer to …. i just search Michael Mosley fish oils.

Ah well …. when i finish my current fish oils …. i will check back.

Like most of the supplements i take, when i remember, they actually don’t cost THAT much …. and while they may not do much … i don’t think they hurt anything much either.

What about the PLACEBO effect ……… they work somewhat if you believe they work??????? 🙂

Day 82
Sunday October 11 2016

Tried to start the day as a fast day. But, I just had no willpower for it. So I had my omlette. I find it challenging to control one’s hunger pains. Getting such the will for doing a 48 hour fast is challenging, eventhough the grains are outside of my system. Practice make perfect. I do a 48 hour fast before. Then I eat like I have never eaten food in my life.

Cutting the cheddar helped. But, losing is still slow. I take the probiotics and eat prebiotics daily. I really have not eaten much more or prebiotics. It does get somewhat expensive buying all this stuff and then it spoils. I still suffer from the sweet tooth when eating 3 fruit in one day. But, it is not a Mars Bar or beer or even a dunkin donut.

Everything is trial and error.

Night night everyone * yawn* hope the week ahead will be full of good things for everyone 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Ps …FROG! Great news on the pants front 👍🏻 yep was moi whose doctor – who is brilliant! – said my cholesterol was right down despite full fat eating for weeks and that was coz i wasnt eating nasty trans fats any more so dont worry KRYSIA..egg yolks are good for you! X

Can I join you?! Starting the BSD tomorrow also, after having read MM’s book and psyched myself up over the weekend! I had gestational diabetes with my baby boy (now four months old) and have the feeling I am about to be told I’m pre-diabetic (still waiting for hospital results). I have a lot of weight to lose 😞 hoping the BSD is going to be my success story…

now i meant not down!

Day 81
Saturday October 10 2016

Breakfast: 4 Egg Spanish Omlette

Lunch: Broccoli crown with salsa

Snacks:
Peach
2 Apples
Bosc Pear
Sunflower seeds

Dinner: 1 Cup Greek Yogurt with blueberries

Day 80
Friday October 9 2016

Breakfast: None

Lunch: Broccoli Crown with Chummus

Dinner:
Spare Rib
Potato Knish
Baked Yam

MoS = Mail on Sunday. INR is a measure of blood thiness. Warfarin causes your blood to not form clots.

well i wish you all the best everyone finds what works for them and thats all we can do , i am sure you will reach your goal x

Jackieppp ….. glad you lost that pound!!!

Thankful for these forums also
Thankful that i am rebooting the BSD plan on Tuesday
For now …. am enjoying some nachos

Hi
my 3 positive things today are:
Just knowing I can come to the forum anytime and people helping me get back on it.
Actually losing 1lb today after 3 weeks (obviously I wasn’t following the BSD too well).
Happy now and looking forward to tomorrow

I googled it too, after reading your message shalimar 🙂

It definitely absorbed a lot of liquid and yet the mixture still had a dry, crumbly texture (before it was even cooked). But the flavour was really strange (and not in the good way!). I imagined that it would probably actually have taken a lot of sugar in the recipe to make the flavour palatable.

Tokyo its good to hear from you, i think we started more or less at the same time. I have never gone the strict route, and its been slow for me, i am type 2 diabetic and am now in a pre diabetic mode so feel that i can’t eat things with sugar in. I do have a roast potato every now and then and a glass of red but on the whole its ok, the motivation for me is to not be a type 1 diabetic.

I’m hoping the 8 week of the 800 will get me in the habit of eating healthy all the time …. and that when i reach my goals that a low complex carb mediteranean diet will be a snap to stay on the rest of my life. It may even be nice to do a 6:1 plan where i do 1 day a week of 800 calories!!

Mind you …. i don’t really expect to reach all my goals until next summer! After all i want to be approx. almost 80 pounds less, healthy, free of diabetes and physically and mentally fit!!! 🙂

Just googled the phase “baking with coconut flour” — wonder if the recipe took into account how to use coconut flour???? I’ve never used it!
I’ve heard gluten free baking just isn’t the same as regular. 🙂

*apple

PS. I tried to make the courgette and apply muffins tonight and I have to say, they are absolute, 100% badness. The first thing I’ve tried from these books that has been a resounding flop.

Although, it was my first time baking with coconut flour, so I probably didn’t know what to expect (flavour AND texture-wise….)

I’m starting on the 10th also with my partner. From VIC, Australia.

I reached my goal weight over a year ago and since then put on 11kgs which is disappointing. I had done Jenny Craig to lose the last 6kg which took me 12mths.

Im interested to see how I go on the BSD, I’m hoping I see results and can stick with it. I’ve read some wonderful success stories on this forum and positive progress from many which is encouraging.

Also wanting to support my partner on her weight loss journey as well. She is aiming to loose more weight than I and given my work hours, cooks and plans out the meals.

I’m aiming to loose 9kg (1.4 stone). Might be a small amount in comparison to others but with my office job, long work hours and slow metabolism, its going to be a real challenge.

Look forward to reading everyone’s progress.

Wow, so many people starting today and tomorrow! Awesome. I’ve just got out of bed and I’m starting the day with water with a squeeze of lemon. Getting enough water is one of my big problems, I seem to have the smallest bladder in Australia! The kids are back at school after two weeks holidays (lots of food treats for us all! Urg) so after I get the youngest away (he’s still in bed right now, odd because if it was still holidays he’d be up playing on the computer, I guess 4th grade doesn’t have the same appeal) I’ll go for a walk then off to do the grocery shopping. A trolley full of healthy food I’m not ashamed of!

Menu plan for the day
B: yoghurt (homemade Greek style) with raspberries
L: rotisserie chicken with salad
D: salmon and baked veges

I also have some homemade tomato soup ready in case of mid-afternoon munchies, about 20 calories for a satisfying mugful.

We can do this!

evening all ( particular josie)!!

i see you were asking were i was well i am still around , but am having to relax on the old bsd i found i was not feeling too good and after talks with my drs and after exstensive medical advice have been advised to ease off i did the eight weeks and i lost 11kg so i had a good result but now like the lovely lucky its a different phase a less strict time so yes i have eaten more carbs but not like before i started.
just been sensible but i did have the new chocolate melting dome from good old m and s last night and it was delish and worth every mouthful !! 😀😀
hope you ok josie ? and still doing well😀

Have you read the 8 week Blood sugar diet book? Have you read the information available on the website …. see tabs at the top … it gives a good outline of the plan.
Are you diabetic, pre diabetic? Do you have a lot of weight to loose? or a little?

TIPS …. that i’ve read in the other forums :

Drink lots of liquids/water …. esp. avoid constipation.

Do a search … top right … on carb-flu …. some people get a little sick if they usually input a lot of simple carbs

If the scale doesn’t move … or doesn’t move as much as you want …. just stick with it …. give your body some kindness and time to adjust when it wants to …. and instead Admire yourself in you better fitting clothes …. and put some money aside for new ones!!!!

If you have some medical conditions/take medications …….. i.e. check your blood sugars

Count calories …. and carbs …. can google it or use a site like MyFatSecret.

Most people try for 50g carbs … mostly complex carbs … or less …. this is just what most people here aim for

Good luck ….

If you don’t reach your goal on a particular day re: calories etc. ….. don’t indulge yourself in the blame game…. just start again the next meal or the next day.

p.s. …. check out this thread

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/starting-10th-october-2016/

This is for people starting this week …. although you can search any topic and join in any conversation you want to

Yowler you are so right I always say onwards and upwards but my new saying will now be onwards and downwards.:-)
Miss Ziggy I had a shock this morning…..not seen my ankles so slim for years. I could not believe my eyes even my husband noticed when I pointed them out to him.. It must be the diet.
There have been some fantastic week one weight losses. I am delighted with mine.

😄 xxx

Hi, yes I’m sticking to the recipes and eating great food,I live in Turkey ,so the Mediterranean diet suits me really well,I will stick with it as I’m no quitter and really want to get body balance back to normal,I’ve never heard of carb flu,I will look it up,but think I just need to push through withdrawals because I know i will start to feel much better as I continue the 8 week plan.

APATCH! That made me laugh..feck a doodle do! 😄😄😄😄 x

Hi, yes I’m sticking to the recipes and eating great food,I live in Turkey ,so the Mediterranean diet suits me really well,I will stick with it as I’m no quitter and really want to get body balance back to normal

Hi everyone. I’ve started the BSD today and I’m not sure what to expect over the next 8 weeks. Can anyone give me any advice or pitfalls to look out for? I really want this to work and I want to give it my best shot! What is it like for the first two weeks whilst your body gets used to the reduced calorie intake and what is the average weight loss in the first two weeks?
I’ve already started having to pee more often!

Had a good weekend. Lucky to have gone out to dinner again and pleased to say had fish and veg, treat was 1/2pt cider. Feeling good. I can jump and skip with ease!! (Not for long but up to 3 weeks ago I couldn’t do it without a great feeling of unease and pain round my liver!!) Now it doesn’t feel like an impossible feat anymore! I feel so light, still 3 stones to lose but water retention vastly improved and I feel so much slimmer. Do you understand what I mean when I say that I feel more at peace with myself, happy and vital again? I hope you all experience the highs of this plan, ‘cos as someone commented (sorry can’t remember who it was, have read so many posts this evening!) This isn’t a diet it is definitely a new way of life. Any newcomers, you may have doubts about managing, but eat wisely and you will have plenty to eat, your hunger will be sated and you will soon reap the benefits of improved body and mind. Have a good sleep, and a wonderful start to a new week. xx

Hi!
I have just made this recipe for the first time – I really enjoyed it, but was slightly shocked that the Easy Diet Diary App (in Australia) works it out as 19.6g carbs and 311 calories!! I have found this with many of the recipes in the book unfortunately. I have now been watching what I eat for 8 weeks, but probably only officially tracked for the first 4. I lost 8kg in 8 weeks, which I was happy with as I didn’t keep to the 800 calories. I was mainly concerned with watching my carb intake, as I recently tested as pre-diabetic. Have managed to keep the blood sugar levels fairly steady (other than the odd indiscretion such as my son’s 7th birthday party …)
Melanie

Wow – sounds unbelievable when you put it like that, Yowzer…14 packs of butter! Feck-a-doodle-do!!

Yes, that sounds like carb flu. The only symptoms that some have had that you haven’t mentioned are nausea/vomiting and bad headaches. The good news is it will be gone in a very short time. Just be good to yourself and stick to the plan.

I didn’t get any problems, but lots of people do
use the search box (top right hand corner of the screen) and enter “carb flu” to see previous conversations

Carb withdrawal does appear to be normal ….. are you still eating some carbs? …. i.e. carbs in vegetables, beans, lentils, berries … cream i coffee?
Most people keep their carbs at 50 g. or lower …. BUT if you feel really sick maybe you shouldn’t try to get really low on carbs for a little while…a few days??

Maybe YOUR body needs a little extra leeway on carbs in the beginning? Everyone is different.

I carried around a can of V8 vegetable juice when i was out of the house ….. if i felt really sick.

Its just they are quite carby STACI so they take a big chunk out of yr daily allowance..according to mynetdiary a 6oz red apple has 88 cals and a whopping 23 carbs…came as a shock to me..i used to eat apples freely,now one apple is a weekend treat..or a small pear,narna or orange! Weekdays i just have some berries.like shalimar said,you can have apples but you need to count the cals/ carbs x

StaciB …. you can eat an apple … or other fruit … as long as you count the calories and carbs in your count.

Berries are better.

There are small amounts of apple, pear, etc. in the recipies.

Jan and all hugs from down under. Yowzer one of the first things in MM’s book is watch your BP if you are on meds. If you do not have a machine then get to the chemist or GP nurse. One of my friends ended up in hospital because he took a double dose by accident. Once you are on them they seem to hate to take you off. Get checked down

Lucky write lots!