That’s ok Mariet, explanation is fine

These are the moments that make us want to laugh out loud, aren’t they Cathy? Or
at least “tell someone”! Thanks to the creation of this thread, we now have that option 🙂
I think my most bizarre moment was when I turned my wrist over and was able to
actually “see my pulse” at both the wrist and elbow! It’s all one big anatomy lesson,
isn’t it? Enjoy it!!!

Allie

Whilst having my hair done at the hair salon I happened to notice two protuberances in the full length mirror whilst sitting in the chair- my kneecaps! I’ve not seen them for a fair number of years! They only seem to have appeared this week. I am slightly under my target weight and BMI is 24.9. That last couple of pounds of fat must have been fat around my kneecaps. How funny!

Have a good weekend everyone.

HI All. Thanks Marsie for your encouragement Feeling better today.Wt 81.3kg .I decided to go back to having breaky. So 2 eggs and spinach.coffee with a friend 1 skinny latte.lunch with my daughter greek salad and water.8000steps around the shops.came home tired and hungry.so abig handful of almonds and green tea. A slice of cheese I will be over 900 by bed time but no white stuff so heading in the right direction.Dinner panfried fish and Salad. Then to stop eating till bedtime.thats the challenge.
For those of you fasting please keep Bgl above 4 and reduce meds as needed if bgl is too low there are possible mental function problems.good luck

Awww Victoria that’s awesome – the happiest radiates from your post. Bet you feel fabulous. Well done on your success and here’s to more where that came from.

Keep at it

Boing boing boing!
Kush X

Verano – I loved your post. It totally sums up how I feel about the BSD and fasting. For me a treat is no longer a piece of cake – in fact it would now be the total opposite of a treat. A treat is a small piece of my favourite stilton, avocado and smoked salmon, steak and salad etc etc.

I can easily fast from 4.30pm (I have to eat early because I teach pilates in the evenings) and 7am. But I cannot keep up my current activity levels if I fast longer. I teach (and practice) pilates 6 days a week plus walk my 2 Labradors and have extended walks on my only day off.

For me feasting isn’t an enjoyment (especially if it involves eating cake) – eating lovely food to satisfy my hunger is. Longer fasts isn’t enjoyable for me either. So putting the two together would be my nightmare scenario whereas for me the BSD is like a dream come true. Lovely food and staying slim, mentally alert and full of energy without hunger – absolutely brilliant.

Hi Victoria – that’s fantastic news – I’m so pleased for you.
Marie x

I’m so happy! I’ve lost 7 lbs this week and my blood sugars have been below 5mmol the whole week. That’s 11lbs total now with the little bit I lost before I started bsd. I know it’s not a week of the challenge yet, but I started bsd last Sunday so I’m counting Sunday to Saturday. I know most of this is water, but I’ve also lost an inch off my waist so I’m hoping some may be visceral fat. I’m not really hungry all the time any more. I’m doing 800 cals and 20 carbs and fasting 17 hours per day. (The second bit is a side benefit as I never want breakfast anyway and dont eat it normally). I’m doing this, because although I was diagnosed T2 3 years ago I largely ingnored it and took my 1metformin until this time when my HBA1C went through the roof. If I’m honest this was due to Mr Cadbury from whom I’ve had a (hopefully) permanent divorce. Now I know that even though I don’t have any symptoms if I don’t take control my retirement won’t be the fun that I planned it to be. Jason Fung says 3lbs a week is achievable so I’ve changed my mind and I’m aiming for that next week. I have two Christmas events this week that could be a challenge. The quiz and ploughman’s I just have to avoid the bread, but cream tea with my ladies group could be impossible to avoid all carbs.

Loving the outfits, Essie. Maybe you should have ordered haggis instead of curry, sounds as though the culinary experience may have been better.😉 Or, giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe the poor chef just couldn’t concentrate on his cooking once he clocked the vision of tartan loveliness who had walked into his restaurant!

MnM, really looking forward to seeing your outfits, especially the wedding dress and ball gown.

And yes, Allie, go for it and join in the game. Though, I have to confess that I tried to take some mirror selfies yesterday – errrr, not very successfully I’m afraid. So a bit of practice needed before you’ll be seeing mine, sorry 😢

Note to self……must try harder.

Ok so there’s lots of talk of ‘fasting’ on various threads lately. I’m not a fan of extended fasting but that only comes from my ‘gut feeling’ . So I thought I should listen to Jason Fung and then judge. I watched an interview on 180nutrition.co.au from 5/3/17.

It was an interesting interview but I must admit I only watched the first 36 minutes because I was starting to find it rather repetitive. So for my opinion……

Dr Fung is advocating fasting for those with chronic diseases such as type 2 diabetes and/or obesity. At the start of the interview he praises a low carbohydrate high fat diet but says despite it being a good diet it was “ … too complicated for many of his 65 to 70 year old patients”. He then stresses, several times, that his patients were “ monitored closely” , which he repeated several times in the interview, and that they were given good support via the internet etc. He says that fasting does take support.

He then goes on to talk about the duration and flexibility of fasts. He suggests you should keep ‘feeding and fasting’ in balance. He argues that in the 1950’s people ate three meals a day without snacking and in effect this lead to a ‘fast’ of 12 hours a day. Dinner at 7pm and breakfast at 7am the following day. Thus he argues that a 16, 24, or 36 hour fast is popular. He also says that fasts can be as long as 21 to 28 days but again MUST be closely monitored.

He sees ‘feast and fast’ as the normal human cycle as he says “ …. you don’t eat salad at a wedding”. He goes on to say he went on a cruise and put on a vast amount of weight but then fasted and lost the gain. He equates feasting with enjoyment. He argues that fasting ‘simplifies ‘ life because you don’t have to make the choices about how much of a food you should eat because you aren’t eating … full stop. Also this gives him more time in the day because he’s not spending time eating.

So that’s my interpretation of this particular interview. My view after seeing Jason Fung in action is that he is advocating ‘feasting and fasting’ as a way of life and maybe that suits some people. I’m still not sure about the wisdom of extended fasting unless ‘it’s monitored closely’.

I find after eating the BSD way for 17 months that I no longer fancy that ‘piece of cake’ or other ‘treat’ as he calls such foods. I am now of the opinion that for me ‘treats’ are a good steak, a plate of smoked salmon with capers and lemon juice, a really fresh fish and 90% chocolate. I don’t feel deprived.

So to sum up, for me, if the BSD diet isn’t ‘too complicated’ to follow then it’s a better WOE in the long term, but there is no harm in 12 to 16 hour fasts and that the real enemy is ‘snacking’ , and that two or three meals a day should be the norm. I still have my concerns about extended fasting I’ve not been convinced by Dr Fung.

Morning, another 100g down so now 61kg. About t move to mythical 60kg zone with luck.

Weird day yesterday, went to a cooking demo but most of food was not BSD friendly, so couldn’t try it. Got a bit sad, it seems weird to me all these people took it so for granted sugar was included and yet it so isn’t in my life now! Wanted a BSD treat when I got home but nothing matched my mood and I’d run out of cream so no coffee with cream. Disgruntled as a result and so ate quite a lot calorifically in the evening (husband made chicken stew, then I had 4 pieces 90% chocolate, plus some spare roast beef and the children’s left over meat from lasagne AND a couple teaspoons creme fraiche) So hurray for the BSD effect that low carb meant I still lost weight.

Yes, well done Marsie and we are still here keeping on keeping on O.D.A.A.T.
X B

Marsie – nice loss – must be all that heat!
It struck me as I’m also 5ft 2in you saying you were still overweight BMI. I use the UK NHS BMI calculator and according to that at 61.3kg you would now be in the healthy weight BMI category. I picked up on it as getting to a healthy BMI is one of my targets – a bit off yet for me. Just goes to show!
Btw, I wondered if it might be a type of surf board but thought no, that’s just me thinking in stereotypes of Aussie life – so it really is sunshine, sea and surf – sigh! Enjoy your grandson’s visit. 9 is a lovely age.

Sunshine-girl – smashing news to hear you’ve gone into the next stone down – and getting there so early in December gives you a nice bit of time to lose a bit more before you go away for Christmas!

MixnMatch – good for you too, getting back into the 10’s – water or not that must be a good feeling.

I’ve lost a 1lb since Tuesday so I’m now 10st 6lb. I prefer being near the top of a stone or near the bottom – being in the middle is so frustrating. But a day and a lb at a time I guess.

Enjoy the weekend
Marie x

I should have made it more clear! I didn’t realise the post would be deleted without trace like that 🙂

I demand you do exactly that, MnM. Post them all! And post some more of them.

Allie, you either have to get a smartphone for quick snaps, get a digicam and take the trouble to transfer the pics, or enlist friends and family to take and send you the pics. We want to see all your new stuff. Think of how the poor UPS guy will feel if all his hard work is only seen by you. 😀

I posted these earlier but they got swallowed up. They’re probably in moderation because I tried to html to embed the images so I think the forum software kicked it over to the mods. I’m going to repost them as links to keep things easy.

While deciding what to wear for date night tonight (we tried a new Indian place; it was an insult to the whole subcontinent), I indulged in a little triple plaid action. The pants are a blue and black microplaid, in case you can’t tell from the crappy cell pic taken in a mirror I only just noticed is embarassingly filthy. :blush:

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And here are those snakeskin boots with the orange heel that I linked to in the maintenance thread. I ended up wearing this outfit with the addition of an orange fitted sweater with criss-cross ties on the sides. These boots that I bought on sale at such a low price it was practically shoplifting are some of the most comfy I own. Most of the time you get what you pay for. Sometimes you get lucky.

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•sunshine-girl, that’s wonderful news, great impetus for further progress 👏👏

•Mixnmatch, happy for you too, that you’re getting back to where you want to be👏👏

•Butterlover, come on back in, it’s such a good a feeling when you’re getting it right. And it doesn’t have to be drastic measures. I know you have family stresses at the moment so “caring gently for ourselves” is the way to go.

•Tues 62kg
Wed 62.4kg … sigh
Thurs 61.7kg …new low☺
Fri. 61.8kg
Sat. 61.3kg …newer low😊 5’2″, eyes of blue, still overweight BMI … working on it, gently, one day at a time.

Oh, please do, MnM! I’m looking forward to it! Might be time for me to invest in an
iphone/smartphone so I can play this game too 🙂 🙂 🙂

Great idea for a thread, I will have to get organised and get some photos together of some of my new bits and pieces. My favourite boots are black suede Peter Kaiser stiletto ankle boots that were the first pair I bought (Second hand) but I also love my knee high silver grey suede boots that were the first ‘new’ pair I bought when my feet shrank. I might put up a piccy of me in the wedding dress and my ball dress as well.

Hi all, well this morning saw me safely back under 11 stone at 10 stone 13.4 so down 7.6 pounds (of mostly water) since Tuesday. I am away from home this weekend so am relaxing a little and will get back to plan on Monday. I still want to push through some more wiggle room before Christmas/new year indulgences start. Great to see some mini-goals being hit already, and everyone keeping on keeping on.

Californiagirl, I feel sorry for the parents who want to try and raise their kids to be healthy and eat well amid all this mess. Like you I was in the supermarket checkout line and watching a child munching on the junk food his mother had given to buy his silence while she tried to pay for her groceries….as the other children are begging for this and that piece of junk right at their fingertips.

The supermarket even has a little stand when you walk in offering free cookies for the kids. Really?

Any poor mother saying NO to their child must seem like Scrooge with everybody else around them caving in to the demands for this kind of crap. No wonder the obesity epidemic is now rampant in children under 10 in the US. Very sad.

articfox, will be interested to see how you assess the alternate day fasting after you have settled into a pattern and given it a chance. I have a lot of weight to lose but am only pre diabetic, so fasting is an option for me in my opinion.

I do think listening to your own body and eating if you are not feeling “solid” makes sense. As they say….its a marathon not a sprint.

Congratulations for fitting into the riding britches….not much wiggle room in those so a great indicator I am sure.

Jande9 yes I think you are right about BSD fundamentally changing your relationship with food. I’m on holiday at the moment and was eating an Indian meal out tonight. Before we went out I had decided to have onion bahji and possibly even a little rice. When we sat down I couldn’t eat either rice or bahji just had chicken tikka and salad ….. so yes tastes do change and I think that without the simple carbs we can all probably stay close to our goal weight for as long as we want.

Today’s fashion bulletin features three different types of plaid playing together in peace and harmony and hotness. The pants are blue and black, in case you can’t tell from the bad cellphone pic (and through my filthy mirror that I just noticed :blush: ).

And those snakeskin boots with the orange heel that I got at the tail end of the Black Friday sales at so cheap a price that I feel like I shoplifted them. I figured even if I had to hobble in them for a few minutes going in and out of a restaurant, it would be worth it. Instead, they’re one of the most comfortable pair I’ve bought. Sometimes you get far, far more than you pay for.

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Thanks for all that info, I did not realise that the labelling system was different in the US, I have looked at Nonna Mary`s thread and realise that the meds may just slow things down a bit. I am going to check out the info on gut bacteria, look into the apps such as MFP and start weighing out food more carefully. I will keep you posted x

I great thing about this program is that it gives you the tools to achieve and maintain a healthy weight. It is empowering to know that you are in control of your body and not simply a helpless bystander.

I love walking through the supermarket and being able to recognize how much of what is available is pure crap. Shelves and shelves full of profitable stuff that simply should not ever be part of a person’s diet. You can stand in the breakfast food section and marvel at how about 98% of what is for sale is actually bad for you, or in the frozen food section and see that maybe 80% should never be eaten. You look past the seductive packaging and you realize that most of it doesn’t even taste that good.

There are a lot of people who have reached their weight and health goals and who have fundamentally changed their relationship with food through this way of eating. We eat real food and we embrace moderation.

They say that a diet is successful if a person can keep the weight off for 5 years. It is still early days but there are a lot of people on here who have made a great start and who are determined to reach that goal.

I have been doing alternate day fasting this week, with 400-500 cal fast days. I’m not diabetic, so I’ve been coping, but I was feeling quite run down and tired on Wednesday evening, so it wouldn’t surprise my if my blood glucose levels were rather low. I can understand that it could be rather dangerous for someone with diabetes to do this, and especially without medical supervision. I think I had not been eating nearly enough calories on the previous feed days to make up the energy either, so I made a conscious effort to eat closer to 2000 cal on Thursday. It was hard! I couldn’t eat much at one time because I would get full quickly, and then I wasn’t hungry for my next meal either. I’m hoping it will get easier as my body settles into the pattern.
My main reason for switching to this pattern is that I never intended to do calorie restriction for more than 8 weeks, and although I was losing weight, I wasn’t losing much in the way of inches off my waist and that is the fat I really want gone. I am also hoping that fasting will keep my metabolism from falling off too much so that I can move into maintenance a bit easier, and not immediately put a lot of weight back on. I’ve only lost about 100g so far this week, but I have already lost 1/2 off my waist, so it must be working! I managed to do up my slimmest riding breeches easily this morning and they are not threatening to burst at the seams as they were when I started this journey, and I pulled my belt in a notch.

AAh I see now. There has been someone putting links to things like mobile phone sites and other electrical goods. But on the subject of spammers be careful out there peeps. I am receiving at least 4 emails a day from various sources saying my order has been delayed and I should click on the link (what order???) or that my Amazon account has been blocked and I have to follow a link to change my password. I sent that one to Amazon spam stoppers site and it wasn’t from them – who would have guessed 🙂

Anyway, with people doing a lot of online shopping at this time of year the internet is rife with scammers – so check and double check any emails and dont ever click on links. You can always go direct to the site using their official address and check things out there.

I’m with Verano on the fasting question. Not because I dont think people should do it but because I am diabetic I would be on the floor within the first evening. Today I have eaten quite light with boiled egg for breakfast, then Spanish chickpea soup for lunch. I have just done my BG reading and I am down to 4.1 which is getting dangerously low and I am going to have dinner in half an hour. Imagine my readings if I hadn’t had any food. I used to be able to fast when I was younger and found it a short term quick fix so if it works for you and you are keeping yourself safe then go ahead.

Hi Verano,

Sorry I didn’t realise you posted a second response yesterday. I’ve just read it. No, you don’t sound as if you’re doom-mongering. I can see you have a genuine concern about fasting. I agree with what you say about the importance of a well-balanced diet. My interest in fasting isn’t so much to do with the weight loss – I’ve lost enough now to know I’m going to get to a goal weight (to be decided) fairly early into 2018 – however fast or slow I lose.

Having got my blood sugar under control, I suppose I’ve turned my attention now to getting rid of the visceral fat and Jason Fung’s idea of fasting as a way of giving the pancreas a rest and trying to reduce my insulin response.
As much as anything I’m doing it out of curiosity – I’m interested to know if it’s effective. I don’t know yet what length of fast I’ll do but as I said if I think it’s affecting me in any way badly (particularly my blood sugars) I’ll be stopping straight away.

But your post has been helpful. It’s made me stop and get very clear in my head exactly why I’m doing it.
Again, it’s appreciated.

Marie x

Congratulations, s-g! Way to get back in the game in a big way. Give yourself a big pat on the back because this was a hard-won victory.

Hi s-g wonderful news!! You are the first to drop into the next stone. Now you need to take one day at a time and you’ll soon be closer to 11 than 12.

I know exactly where you are coming from as I’ve been here almost as long as you and I’ve reached my main goal ….. reversing my diabetes. It does make it much harder to concentrate the mind when the issue becomes more one of weight than one of health …. BUT …. you have mentioned a magic word ‘cruise’. We also have a trip planned for March/April including an 18 night cruise!

So come on my friend let’s try and keep that uppermost in our minds and keep losing if only to look good on our hols.

As for me, I now have to lose even more to drop into the next stone, 3.6lbs but being away I’m not too unhappy. I feel like I’m still maintaining at the moment. I’m not regaining in my head, but I will just have to try harder to drop down into the next stone!

Evening all

I have found it impossible to stick to 800 calories so far this week but, you know what, I’m trying not to stress about it. I’ve eaten low carb and that will have to suffice for now (check me out – being all chilled about it).

I won’t weigh now until Tuesday and will use the weekend to refocus on the 800 part of the plan when I don’t have the stress of work – where it’s impossible to avoid Quality Street, Heroes, Celebrations, Cake, Chocolate etc etc (although I have avoided them, but am eating too many nuts to counteract the feeling of missing out on the other stuff)

Have a good, clean weekend all

I too, Allie, share your sense that the train is moving too fast these days. It is hard to stay calm with so much going on, minute to minute, everything from gender to pay to immigration to nuclear threats to environmental collapse (to just name a few!!) I find myself just turning off the news and trying to take in LESS information.
I’ve been trying to combat all the anger out there by being especially kind to everyone I meet and trying to not respond to provocations until I can get my own self sorted and composed.
I used to eat to keep my brain calm but BSD has given me some better coping strategies! I’m doing good on maintenance too — just sticking with the principles and not paying much attention to it beyond that — I love this WOE — I’m never going back to carbs and I don’t even look at them like I used to — they look like non-food to me now.
I stood in line at the grocery the other day and just marveled (in horror) at all the cr*p that was around me, candy and more candy and doughnut holes and pies and cupcakes and granola “bites” and cookie tubs and buckets of Dutch-crunch bread — and all of that within just a few feet of the check-out line — it doesn’t even look like food anymore, just like some awful art project (I mean, the colors!) —
So glad you are doing well!! I always love your enthusiasm and energy and postings!

Hey Sunny, I haven’t started that thread yet but will. I’ll post the link back here when it’s up.

The post she report was left by a spammer who bumped a bunch of threads the other night. The mods deleted all of its posts so now it looks like Mariet is talking to Lump when it was actually the post right after Lump’s. I reported the spammer too, so I noticed at the time.

Thank you SO much, Julia, for adding your professional experience and judgement to
your analysis of this tragic set of circumstances. It’s helped enormously with my
understanding of this incident, and I’m truly grateful that you’ve taken the time to
respond to a subject so off thread. There is so much turmoil in our beloved country,
sometimes I think the train is just moving too fast for me to absorb it all. I much
appreciate your perspective. I hope everything is well with you, my sister! My confidence in
maintenance continues to grow weekly, so all A-OK here. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Hi everyone.Im late to join and its because I am completely off plan.eating freely every day and having cravings and hypo feelings.Ive gained 1 kg in less than a week and Ive had a real struggle to get myself motivated.So my goal is to try for a 1kg loss but more important to break my cravings for bread etc and stick to the Bsd principles. Back to daily weight.measure Bgl and weigh my food. Increase exercise. Hopefully focus on the plan and the results will follow.I may post more to keep myself accountable

I have been here so long I even get bored with myself. I have never really concentrated on my weight as my BG was a bigger concern. However, I am where I want to be with my BG in that I have reduced meds and have good HbA1c readings BUT I have not managed to get rid of the meds completely and call myself in remission. I have been diabetic for 12 years and using insulin all that time and that is what I want rid of. I guess I need to concentrate on my weight now and have the added effect of further reducing my need for meds. I am a bit slow and a bit complacent so not in any hurry to get to my long term goal of no meds and 9.5 stone but I keep sliding back then picking myself up and sliding back and so on. I have been on this plan since June 2016 so I should just buck up my ideas.

Hi Allie — with a heavy heart I am probably not going to shed much light on the Kate Steinle verdict — I know how betrayed many people feel by this shocking verdict but as an attorney I also know that the facts in court are often radically different from the information presented by the media.
From what I have heard, the jury focused on the fact that the bullet hit a concrete pier, then ricocheted 200 feet before it hit Kate — an improbable result and trajectory — and I think ultimately why he was acquitted of her death.
Maybe “reckless behavior resulting in death” (some kind of manslaughter) might have been a better charge but the crazy “noise” around the death and the issue of illegal immigration and sanctuary cities made it impossible for the prosecution to go with anything but the big guns.
It seems to me, like so many, that she did not get the justice she deserved but I was not there in the courtroom and I did not hear all the testimony so I don’t really know if that feeling is true or just my frustration with her awful and pointless death.
What I do think is that the city of San Francisco is partially responsible for her death by not enforcing the immigration laws and they do all their residents massive damage by not enforcing the law. Legal immigrants are harmed as well and the mood turns ugly between fellow San Franciscans when people feel that some people are being protected at the expense of others.
It seems odd, doesn’t it, that we argue over a legal and orderly immigration policy — but it has become so politicized that the reasonable middle ground just can’t be found.
Worldwide I think, people want legal and orderly immigration policies that protect the immigrant AND the citizen — we see that everywhere in the world.
Unfortunately, Kate Steinle’s death got all mixed up in that.
My heart goes out to her family. It is a tragedy.

What a lovely, sweet sentiment, Allie. You’re so kind and warm, thank you. That suit is magical, I think. It enchants everyone at first site because the fit, fabric, detailing, even things you don’t really see like the lining, are all top notch. Also in general White House Black Market’s slim ankle pant is a perfect cut for me. If I could buy the store out of every single model they make I would. Heck, I might! 😀

Luvtcook, I was in scale avoidance mode when I started so I don’t know exactly, but I was a hair under 300 pounds when I began weighing myself on week 4. I’m 99% sure I had already lost at least 25 pounds in the first half of the program. Overall (because I lost probably another 20 or so in the 4 months before I started the BSD just by cutting white carbs), I have good reason to believe that I’ve lost something in the neighborhood of 220 pounds. I say 200 just because it’s nice round figure that I know I have certainly lost.

So sorry, s-g! I always think of you in terms of your extensive knowledge on BSL,
as well as the impressive exercise routine that you’re able to do! (100 squats? good
grief 🙂 ) You are a petite one, aren’t you? Sometimes it’s hard for me to contain my
enthusiasm for this WOL! I know that if I can lose 10 stone, any and all things are
possible. I’ll be cheering you on to victory. Must be a challenge in the kingdom of excellent
bread, wine and cheese, , my nemeses! I’m more of the rangey, leggy type….5’7”,
and ecstatic to have a current BMI of 21.46. KOKO! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Allie

Hi Allie and LTC – I shall indeed post tomorrow what the scales say.
LTC – a 4 day fast is very impressive! I might also join you. Weird, I feel slightly naughty that I’m fasting at all – it’s been drummed into us for so long about eating 3 or 4 times a day. I do need to be better at making sure my food is more nutritious, that’s for sure. I have a lot to learn on that score…

Allie – Fung’s book – it says that after the fat is used up for energy, the body then turns to the dodgy rubbish cells and uses those up (autophagy – saggy skin), producing new cells. As I will have plenty of saggy skin to go at, I’m not worried about burning muscle!

My boss has just brought in some very expensive buttery mince pies and a box of fancy chocs from the local posh choccy place! Another guy came back from a breakfast meeting with a tray of crusty bread bacon sandwiches and a bowl of ketchup! All put on the fat station for whoever to help themselves. I have kindly declined, saying I was saving myself for Xmas! He can’t believe his ears! 🙂

Allie – I’ll have to look to see if we have anything available like collagen protein powder over here. I’m afraid bone broth doesn’t appeal to me in the least to be honest but I would be interested, LTC, in your recipe that is so comforting. Happy to learn about that.

It would be fabulous LTC for you to reach your target of 199 so I am routing for you, and routing for myself – I’m at 230lbs right now. Allie is the coach as she’s already got there and is championing our cause!

Right, duty calls – see you all tomorrow my lovelies.

Kazzeexx

Whoa steady on allie, I still have at least over 2 stones to go as I am only 4″11 inches. I want to be 135 lbs so 9 st 9 lbs. Maintenance is a long way off for me. In the shorter term I want to be 11.11 for Xmas and then down to 11 stone before I go on my next cruise in April.

Allie: yes on homemade bone broth….the benefits of a turkey carcass leftover from Thanksgiving. LOVE homemade soup.
XOXO back to you.

That’s great news, sunshinegirl! You did very well on your own this week. Most of
all, you’re back “on track”, and that must feel great. What are your long term goals?
A place on the maintenance thread awaits you! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Allie

Excellent, Kazzi and LTC. I should of known you’d be on top of the nutrition question!
Can’t wait til tomorrow for your weigh in Kazz. It’s also very informative to hear your
individual experiences with fasting because it’s coming from friends that I “know”. 🙂
I’m happy that you found each other here, because where you both are on the journey
is indeed similar. I do have an “ear” for success, and I have no doubt that you will be
where you want to be in the future. Count on it!

LTC, are you making your own bone broth? I found that putting a scoop of Dr Axe’s
collagen protein powder in my coffee every day while doing the 800 gave me an
extra 7g of protein with a mere 28 cal. It’s good for the joints, hair, nails and SKIN, also.
I didn’t want to lose muscle mass either! It was so edifying to see my weight drop below
200 lbs. There is definitely something psychological in that short term goal. 🙂

Carry On, my lovelies!

Allie
xoxo

Esnecca, all I can say is WOW. Remind me of how much you have lost in total? You are an inspiration to a lot of posters and the pics say it all. You look fabulous. You should be flying high.

Congratulations SGirl…how wonderful to be in a whole new set of numbers beginning with 11!

Kaz, I am with you. Doing a 2 day fast that actually ends up being 60 hrs (last meal on Wed evening at 6:30, fast for Thur & Fri, first meal breakfast on Sat, so 48 hrs plus overnight is 60).

I also feel no hunger pains whatsoever and find 24 hrs really easy to do. This was not the case a couple of years ago doing 5:2. I found it hard doing the 500 cal on the fast day. But a switch flipped on the BSD. Once I got over the first couple of hard days, hunger is gone….and fasting for 2 days not a big deal. Did a 4 day fast early in NOV and found day 4 tough….but think I was not getting enough salt.

Like you and Allie I have no concerns about nutrients. Am careful to make the rest of the week count with very nutritious food. Am thinking I may do this pretty regularly with bone broth for lunch and dinner as I find it very satisfying and soothing. I do think the fasting is a great tool and also appears to have extra weight loss umph without a lot of effort. And the data cited by Jason suggests that fasters do NOT lose muscle on a fast, which was also a concern of mine.

I was sorry to hear your one meal a day regime was not successful. Sounded like a great idea to me too. But as they say, the proof is in the pudding. Anxious to hear how you continue to get on with some 2 day fasts sprinkled in as I may copy you if you find it is working well. Even just a 60hr fast once a week seems very doable to me. I am at 215 lbs and am so anxious to get out of the 200s and see 199 again. I would be thrilled to lose 3 lbs a week up to that point and 2.5 lbs wk after that.

Good luck Kaz…look forward to reading about your success

Hi all, just dropped under 12 stone now at 11.13 3/4lbs so hopefully that is bye bye to the 12. Next goal is to get under 76 something on the kilo scale. Just 300 grams to go.