61.7kg again, same as yesterday.

That’s OK, means I’d held the line yesterday but also means greater care needed today in advance of the weekend. Having an overnighter with friends in their house on the canals in Mandurah, just south of Perth, dinner on their balcony (will be able to manage my choices there) then a tootle around the canals in their little wooden boat to wonder at the Christmas lights. So many people have gone to so much trouble. Special thrill having 9yo grandson also invited. I just know how much he will love the lights show.

Restaurant lunch on Sunday with others who couldn’t be with us at Saturday dinner.

Busy, busy, caring gently, everyone ….. one day at a time …..

Hi Veiled1, just to join in to congratulate you in super results for 8 weeks. The 6” waist reduction is stunning.

I’m mid Week 4 and my waist has reduced 0.5cm! Mind you I feel fantastic, am sleeping like a baby and my clothes are roomier despite the same measurements. My weight loss has predictably slowed since Week 3 and I’ve experienced three three day stalls (day three of the third one today). I’ve just hunkered down and carried on and the weight eventually started moving down again.

For me, the way my body reacts, not all calories are equal. Too many calories from carbs, or protein, seems to slow things even outside these mini plateau. And it’s possible to pick and choose meals from the BSD cookbook, stay under 800 cals but be consuming a surprisingly high proption of carbs. I find I have to weigh and log everything to keep track of the macronutrients over the course of a day.

Anyway, all the best, looks to me like you’ve made a terrific start, keep it up!

Thanks for the heads up Esnecca. Will look to see what I replace the oats with at breakfast. Have gone with green beans for mid-afternoon snack.

This evening I found myself singing “If loving you is wrong, I don’t wanna be right” to my newly-discovered traditional Bulgarian yogurt with live cultures. Loudly too! And I meant every word. 😆

Ah, this sounds great. I can’t wait till I’m maintaining my ideal weight. Glad to hear BSD has worked so well for so many.

That’s a pretty high carb menu, blah. Two meals with oats as the anchor, plus lentils, tomatoes, milk and 3.5 cups of cauli. (Is the rice cauliflower rice? I couldn’t tell from the phrasing if it was cauli added to actual rice or cauli instead of rice. If it’s rice rice that needs to go lickety-split.) The least carby thing on that list is the cauliflower and there are 9 grams of carbs, six of them from sugar, in 3.5 cups. A serving is 1/2 cup. Rolled oats are not good at all, I’m afraid. If you must eat oats (and I recommend you ditch them altogether in favor of eggs or yogurt or smoked fish or nothing at all), they should be steel-cut. Rolled oats have been steamed and flattened, losing much of their fiber and hitting the blood stream as sugar far more quickly than steel-cut oats which are the whole groat intact and unprocessed.

You count calories, I see, but do you count carbs? I think this may be part of the reason you’ve hard such a hard time with blood sugar management over the decades. I have PCOS as well and am insulin resistant. In order to lose the weight I needed to lose, which granted was an enormous amount (200 lb+), I had to get draconian and drop my daily carb maximum to no more 20 grams. That means cutting out all grains, cereals, sugars, pulses, root vegetables, the higher carb non-root vegetables and most legumes.

This is a tough, tough syndrome that clings on for dear life. You have to become a bit of a monster yourself to pry its sharp claws off your back, and the focus of that, in my experience at least, has to be carbs much more than calories. In addition to blocking weight loss, carbs also make you hungry for more of them, which only makes it more likely that you’ll give up before you’ve started.

You can do it. I did it and it revolutionized my life. Go hardcore, PCOS sister!

I limit carrots to half a small one, sliced in a stirfry along with other veg, or raw grated in an oriental coleslaw, but celeriac I use more freely. I cut them into chip sized pieces, microwave for a couple of minutes, then either roast in the oven, or pan fry on medium heat in a little oil, til golden on all sides. Good with any cooked meats. I also do a celeriac rosti – a few cubes of pancetta (I cut normal cubes into two or three pieces so it distributes better), a small finely chopped shallot, and grated celeriac. Pan fry in a little oil, pressing the mix down and turning til it’s cooked and golden – as it cooks, it starts to hold together a bit. Have this with a fried egg on top for breakfast – yum! (And it can’t be too high in carbs, as my latest Hb1ac was 32!)

Hi guys. Popping into this thread to harness the camaraderie. I started yesterday. Had a complete fail in terms of sticking to the rules (work morning tea was a temptress, and then I just gave up for the day). Still counting it as day 1, because otherwise the temptation to restart every time is too great.

My story: Mid- 30s. T2 Diabetic (21 years and counting) and have had terrible control. PCOS. Looking to drop 20 – 25 kilos over 12 weeks on BSD.

Hoping to get control over BSLs and PCOS more than anything else. Let’s see what comes of it at the end of the process.

My menu (for weeks 1 – 4):

Breakfast:
Savoury porridge, made up of 1/3 cup rolled oats, 1/3 cup rasam (spicy tomato consomme), and 3/4 cup kootu (vegie & lentil stew). (183 calories)

Lunch: 2 cups of cauliflower, spinach and tuna fried rice with raita (176 cals), cup of tea wit dash of milk (7 cals)

4:30 pm meal: 1/4 cup rolled oats, 3/4 cup kootu (vegie & lentil soup), 2 tbsps greek yoghurt (181 cals)

Dinner: 1.5 cups cauliflower, tomato & tuna fried rice with raita (145 cals) tea with a dash of milk ( 7 cals)

If anyone wants any of the recipes for the above, let me know and I can share.

I’m taking a batch cooking approach, which for instance, means I can sautee things in 1/2 tbsp oil without it ramping up the overall calorie intake.

For accountability’s sake:
Current:
Weight: 79.1 kg
Waist circumference: 103cm
Height: 160 cm
BMI: 30.9
Pulse: 104bpm (82bpm resting heart rate)
Fasting BSL: 15.9

Target:
8 weeks: (2/2/2018)
Weight: 64 kg
Waist circumference: 80-85 cm
BMI: 25
Pulse: 70-75 BPM (resting)
Fasting BSL: 4.0 – 5.1
Range: <7.8 post meal

12 weeks: (2/3/2018)
Weight: 56 kg
Waist circumference: 69 cm
BMI: 21
Pulse: 67-70 bpm
Fasting BSL: 4 – 5.1
Range: <7.8 post meal
HBA1c: <6.1

I love this idea – Middle of Week 4 and I am almost completely consumed by this transformation effort – even when I am busy doing the many things I seem to get done with this new level of energy, part of my brain is still ticking over BSD matters. I’m going to focus on non scale positives –

1. After a very cold and wet start to summer, the sun isn’t finally shining here and I felt lovely and warm drinking my coffee out on the deck
2. My house is positively sparkling with all the pre-Christmas spruce up I am getting done
3. My dog, a large mini schnauzer, is washed, smells lovely and is super soft and fluffy.

Off the take him for a long walk in the sunshine.

Thanks for the heads up and good wishes. Will get into the Santa’s elve’s thread. As it turned out, yesterday was an unmitigated disaster. I’m still calling it Day 1, because otherwise, the temptation to keep restarting the clock is too great.

Day 2 is off to a good start. I liked Lucia’s approach of breaking it down into short blocks. I’m going to start with half hour blocks of don’t give into temptation.

Esnecca….cannot believe you still have a high school blazer. I think I set fire to mine the day I graduated. Maybe your wasn’t madatory attire the way mine was.

SunnyB, just wondering. …could any of your malaise be do to “no more dragons to slay, no more good fights to wage”? Now that you have succeeded, no more diet to do.

I know that this BSD has absolutely CONSUMED ME. Whether it is planning meals, plugging in ingredients into a program to calculate calories/carbs/protient….trying on clothes that almost fit last week but not quite, weighing myself for the 5th time that day to make sure it REALLY is true and the loss is still there. And I am frankly getting a bit of a rush seeing the scales go down. They always say maintenance is so much harder than dieting becuase there are no bells ringing anymore, no fireworks in your mind celebrating each half pound lost.

Do you need to find a new mission? Esnecca is has discovered shopping and boots. Others are taking big vacations. Gotta find something that is fun. A new skill to hone? A new language to learn? Have you considered learning to play the bassoon (ugh)? This forum is fabulous, but could you find a likeminded GP and found a live support group in your area and meet in real life locally to help those that think they could never do this, that it is just too hard and beyond even consideration?

Good luck sweetie…how something rings your bell. You deserve to be happy and able to enjoy all you have done.

Week 4 is certainly living up to the common experience. 4 days in and .3kg down. Today is third morning at 72.5. Gosh bodies are complex. Modest (welcome) weight loss, measurements are not changing, but my clothes are visibly roomier – both tops and bottoms (yippee to that).

Meanwhile the social activities of the silly season are cranking up. I’ve successfully navigated a couple of functions without mishap so that builds confidence and more able to relax and enjoy the fun of it.

We have had an unseasonal cold snap here in south east Australia and I have been freezing. I had to turn on the central heating and on evening light the fire – IN DECEMBER!

Luvtcook, I am a seaweed FREAK and eat seaweed salad at least twice a week. I basically use the same dressing with some slight alterations (freshly squeezed ginger juice instead of minced fresh, for example), so your instincts are spot-on. I think it was just a typo, but to clarify, I dress raw kelp noodles with the above recipe and put them in the fridge overnight to cook in the acidity, not konjac. Konjac is already soft and doesn’t need overnight marinating. If you do the baking soda trick with the kelp noodles, they are ready to go. You can still use the softened ones as a cold noodle, but the next day they’ll have softened even more thanks to the dressing’s action so it doesn’t work for me as a make-ahead thing. If you don’t want to wait overnight but want that cold noodle combo, use the baking soda trick, nuke the noodles for 15 seconds just to dry then, and then just toss them in the dressing. Top with a sprinkle of fresh sesame seeds and fresh green onions for crunch.

Thank you, Allie. I had almost finished a long post starting the Low Carb Cooking 101 thread when I mistakenly hit something on my keyboard that backed me out of the post so I lost it, darnitall. I’ll start over again shortly. Then Luv and I will have a place to put all kinds of recipes, although I’m sure we’ll keep posting them as relevant in other threads too. We can’t help ourselves. 😀

Great bump, Sunny. 🙂

1) My high school uniform blazer fits me with room to spare. I bought it when I was 14.
2) The sun is out and it makes me happy. It’s still cold, but bright sunlight warms everything up, including me. Hit me with your best shot, Vitamin D.
3) Off to walk to the organic market where I plan to buy a bunch of bulk teas and experiment making my own herbal blends for Christmas gifts. When my guy comes home I’m going to have a little tasting bar set up with shots of each brew for us to sample and critique. I’m so looking forward to it. Alternatreat!

Thanks Allie. You are right, much work has taken place during these months of maintenance and we should all be proud of all we have achieved, both getting here and staying here. Sometimes, that gets away from me – think that’s why I have been feeling out of sorts. Need to remind myself occasionally that much has changed and it pays to remember to appreciate that at least once a day.

So, having had a week or so feeling at odds and rather adrift – for no reason that I could actually pin down – it occurred to me that perhaps there is some mileage is kick-starting this Positive Thoughts Thread again. So, here’s a couple to start us off again.

‘Our lives are like the course of the sun. At the darkest moment there is the promise of daylight.’ (quote from The Times 24-12-1984)

To measure your progress, don’t get bogged down with the little things, remember to check the bigger picture.

Finally a personal one – feeling content with where I am with this WOE right now.

Hope some of you will join in to properly revive this thread.

Love to think of you in a bright red dress for the holiday, SunnyB! Wear it with joy!
So much work has taken place over these months into maintenance, and I never get
tired of hearing about it 🙂 🙂 :). I’m so proud of you all!

Allie

Hello Folks – sorry I haven’t been posting recently. Have been feeling a bit out of sorts and sort of adrift where the BSD is concerned, but I think I have my headspace sorted again now.

Theo, sorry to read of your family crisis, but hope that your will soon be feeling more in control again and that your ‘boys’ will give you something positive to focus on in the meantime. JackieM , I’m sure you can achieve your next challenge.

I’m slowly increasing the wriggle room, so am fairly content with my weight situation. Like you Jackie, I’m setting a new personal challenge – not going to do it right now, but have decided to try to push down to a flat 8st. This will be a task for the new year though. Right now, I’m focusing on the upcoming festive season and all that entails. This year it’s just OH and me for Christmas Day, but there will be a veritable house full on Boxing Day, so giving some thought to catering and how to limit the workload. Have ordered a new dress for festive season – red, which seemed appropriate – lovely to be able to order something fitted is a size 10.

Hope everyone’s plans for Christmas are progressing well.

Welcome, JustStickWithThis – well done on taking the decision to make this change, especially with the festive season looming. There is no ideal time to make a start though and we all have to learn to make this way of eating fit in with our life styles, no matter what situations arise.

Some people use an online or app based calorie tracker/counter, some like me use a spreadsheet. I’d suggest vague calculations in your head is probably not the ideal way to go, as this could be a bit hit and miss.

Top tips are, keep well hydrated and if in doubt down more water; keep an eye on the carbs also, record everything consumed as well your vital statistics, so that you build an overall big picture of what you are doing daily and the progress being made. Finally, make good use of the forum, as there is a wealth of information, advice, support and encouragement on here, so share your successes and vent when things go wrong and someone will be sure to celebrate or encourage as necessary.

Best of luck to you – look forward to reading of your success.

Hi there! I am starting out today and wish you the best of luck!

Hi there, everyone.

I start BSD Fast 800 today. Right around Christmas, I might go off track a bit, but I intend not to let it get too crazy. Actually, I am hoping nobody will notice that I am eating so little and just leave me to my diet while we visit and stay with the in-laws.

I am moderately fit-ish. I’d say I am carrying about 15-20lbs more weight than I’d like. I’m vegan. I wasn’t always, but ever since making the switch, I feel better about my choices overall. So that is a lifestyle, and it remains in place for the rest of my life. 🙂

It’s exciting to be here with you all! It’s not the first time I have “planned to start” BSD. I really never stuck with it before, one thing lead to another and you know the rest of that old story. So, umm, any motivation, insight, and stories of how you tried and kept at it till it worked would be most welcome!

I’ll roam through the forums to see what you’ve all been saying to each other. I just wanted to post a little something here too.

(Oh do you guys use a calorie counter? Or simply monitor it in your head? Or on paper, the old-fashioned way?)

Cheers!

On the exercise front I quite liked some of MM’s ideas from one of the ‘Trust me…’ shows I think. Hoover lunges, teeth cleaning squats and knee bends in the shower may look a bit odd but they do make the simple things more fun.

Wow it sounds like you have done great so far! I bet the “stall” will pass.

Missed the 2nd part of the question. 50g of veg is wrong as Esnecca says, it is probably the 50g of carbs which can be a lot of veg of the low carb type. Veg is great for filling up.

Have fun with it, Marie. You may raise a few eyebrows at first, I certainly did, but my
spouse of 4+ decades has learned to expect the unexpected from me anyway. Nothing
much surprises him any longer. It’s nice to have the countertop available if I do one
too many of any maneuver, and need something to grab onto! We have to prepare
dinner anyway, and my cd player is always at the ready, so why not? It certainly takes
the tedium out of strength training for me since I’m essentially doing 2-3 things at once!

Be sure to report back if it works for you 🙂

Allie

Allie – what a good idea. While I was at work today (still do a day a week) I was just thinking I need to find somewhere at home to do push-ups like we do at the exercise classes where we use the bar. Of course, the kitchen!
Marie x

Thank you, Busybee! I’m still playing catch up trying to get to know all the posters
here…We all get so busy on the lead up to the holidays, so if I don’t see you before
your departure, have a truly blessed holiday with your family on this side of the pond.
Restaurant portion sizes in this country are shocking, so “Buyer Beware!) 🙂 🙂 🙂

Allie

Happy birthday to you too Ancient Weaver and I hope you are having a good one.
Alliecat, I have lost 3 stone 2.3/4 pounds since 10th October 2016 – many highs and lows on the way and very slow compared to most, and a sudden 10 pounds over the last few weeks. I still have at least another two stones to lose and I will take that when we get back from our Christmas/ new year break.
Keeping on……………..
X B

Busybee – What a great birthday present – happy birthday! I’ve been trying to work out what the L………..life diet was. Don’t tell me, but if you can give me a couple more letters like in the old Hangman game, I’ll keep guessing.

Ancient Weaver – HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Marie

Where does the 50 gram figure come from? I’ve only seen 50 grams used as a limit for daily carb count, not for vegetable weight. The 50 gram level is used as a guideline for maximum carbs because it seems to be a bit of a sweet spot for getting to and staying in a fat burning state. You can eat giant piles of veggies and never get anywhere near that carb count if you avoid the problematic ones like root veg. I ate 300 grams of rapini alone yesterday, plus another 200 of spinach and 90 of sauerkraut and kimchi. Total carbs for all of those veggies was 2 grams. Total calories 138.

Maybe you start “doing birthdays”, Ancientweaver! A very Happy Birthday to you, too 🙂

Oops, cross posted with Busybee.
Congrats on reaching the next stone, and many happy returns of the day!
Don’t let on, I don’t really *do* birthdays, but it’s my birthday too! ;D

Happy Birthday, Busybee! What a wonderful surprise, especially if you weren’t expecting
it 🙂 I’ve just turned 69, and I haven’t felt this good in 25 years. Keep on dancing! I
routinely turn up the music and jig around the kitchen while I’m preparing dinner and
usually throw in a few sets of squats and push-ups off the countertops for good
measure. It’s a miracle to have this much energy, isn’t it? How much weight have
you lost in total, if you don’t mind the question? Soon you’ll be joining us on the
fashion thread!
Congratulations on getting down into the net stone!

Allie

Not close enough unfortunately. It turns out that my scales have found a new sticky point. I should have known it was too good to be true, as every time I jiggled they came back to exactly the same point . . . They now show 11,3 and this time my electric scales agree, so that’s 2lb down in one day. Still pretty good, and worth repeating! Clearly time I put the new scales in the bathroom, and the old ones OUT.

For going alcohol free, would pretending to be the ‘nominated driver’ and having things like tonic water and lime, or non-alcoholic mulled wine be any use? Perhaps simply measuring and logging calories is the better way to go though, like I had to do with cheese, and will have to try with cream next time there is any in the house.

I don’t usually post mid week, but just had to say I have had the best 71 st birthday present this morning – I have lost another couple of pounds which had taken me into the 13 st’s, the first since I was on L………..life diet 13 years ago. I actually danced around the bedroom with delight!
X B

Greetings, All! My comment has nothing at all to do with “Carrots”, just dropping in
to say how delightful it is see all this enthusiasm for creative cooking! We all follow
Esnecca around the forums, some just to see what she’s having for dinner!

Luvtcook, your username is an understatement. I wish the two of you would enter your recipes
in one dedicated space. I’m always afraid that I’ll miss something! I can so relate to your
unwillingness to “wait” for the kelp noodles to arrive. I’m that way in all other aspects of
my life except food. When I had my interior design practice, I’d never take no for an answer
when I was executing a design, and would basically go to the end of the earth to find a
fabricator with the ability to provide what I was after. Same situation recently when a
clothes order was missing a particular thigh length ruby jacquard cardigan/jacket. When
I followed up on it I found out it was sold out until Jan. 1st. Not willing to accept this,
I called all JJill stores in a 30 mile radius, and located the last one in stock at the Greens
Farms mall in W. Hartford. Maybe I should post it on the fashion thread. Maybe I’m just
too stubborn for my own good?

Keep up the inspiration, everyone!

Allie

Esnecca, THANK YOU ! I adore seaweed salad and it sounds like the cold dressed konjac has that vibe, and topping with some shrimp is brilliant….sounds like a great way to make a full meal out of it with a bit of protein.

Was thinking it might sub well for Asian noodle dishes like Dan Dan noodles (topped with a spicy pork sauce). Any other warm uses that you feel they were particularly suited for?

I am an anxious for them to arrive, but they are shipped directly from the vendor and won’t be here until next Tues. Just gives me more time to plan what to do with them. I have a hair apt in the town next to us which is the area’s biggest Korean community. Will check at grocers there today to see if they might have them…and at a much lower cost than off the web.

Thankyou so much for these replies! Xxx

Forkers, here us also a pizza crust that is easy and very nice and is very low carb. Hemp seeds are my new favorite ingredient. So good for you, zero carbs, and are great fillers for meatballs or meat stuffed veg (stuffed peppers or stuffed zucchini). You can order a bag on line if you can’t find it in a health store.

Hope it helps. LTC

https://www.lowcarb-ology.com/low-carb-pizza-crust/

Chewy Low Carb Pizza Crust

Prep Time 5 mins
Cook Time 15 mins

If you’ve missed real, chewy, bready pizza crust you are in luck! This crust has the chewiness of a “real” pizza crust but only has 2 net carbs!

Servings: 6
Calories: 268 kcal
Author: Marye
Ingredients
1 1/2 cups shredded mozzarella cheese
2 tablespoons grated parmesan cheese , I used Kraft shelf stable Parmesan but fresh would probably work, too
3/4 cup hemp seeds
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder , or to taste
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
Pinch of salt
3 eggs , beaten
US Customary – Metric
Instructions
Preheat the oven to 350F.
Add silpat or parchment paper to a baking sheet.
Combine all of the ingredients in a bowl and stir well.
Let sit for about 5 minutes.
Using a 1/4 cup measure make 6 mounds of cheese mixture on the baking sheet.
Pat down to about 1/4 inch thickness.
Bake for 20 minutes.
Let cool before removing from pans.
Store in an airtight container in the refrigerator or freeze for up to 3 months for longer storage.
Recipe Notes

To make pizza just add your ingredients to the top of the crust. Place on a heavy metal baking sheet (no silpat or parchment) and bake at 425 for 5 minutes or until the cheese bubbles and melts. Be sure to let it cool for a few minutes before you try to eat it. Those roof of the mouth blisters are killer!

Nutrition Facts
Chewy Low Carb Pizza Crust
Amount Per Serving
Calories 268 Calories from Fat 180
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 20g 31%
Saturated Fat 5g 25%
Cholesterol 105mg 35%
Sodium 232mg 10%
Potassium 85mg 2%
Total Carbohydrates 2g 1%
Protein 18g 36%
Vitamin A 9%
Calcium 22.1%
Iron 22.1%
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.

Hi everyone, oh Ancientweaver you are so close. I am exactly the same so 11st 13 and 3/4 lbs but still less than when I last saw my doctor and got a telling off because I had gained weight, it will be nice for him to see a loss again – my appointment is on Wednesday with blood tests on Monday morning. Gives me motivation to get through the weekend alcohol free because that is where my naughty calories are. Hoping for a little bit more off by then.

Forkers, the oats are a much better carb but still relatively high if on BSD….looks like it might be better for maintenance or for the rare special breakfast.

You might want to try this low carb granola, its off the US diabetes web site A SWEET LIFE (https://asweetlife.org/recipes/). Its higher in calories, but for me, I am now also limiting my eating to an 8 hr window from 10 am to 8 pm so I only do 2 meals a day….and this would work nicely with some amond milk to keep you full, provide not of good nutrients and keep you satisfied until dinner.

Pumpkin Spice Granola
Ingredients

1 1/3 cups mixed raw nuts (almonds, pecans, walnuts)
2/3 cup mixed raw seeds (sunflower seeds and shelled pumpkin seeds)
2/3 cup unsweetened flaked coconut
2/3 cup almond flour
Sweetener equivalent to 1/3 cup sugar
2 teaspoons pumpkin pie spice
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/3 cup pumpkin puree
1/4 cup melted butter
Instructions

Preheat the oven to 300F and line a large rimmed baking sheet with parchment paper.
In the bowl of a food processor, combine the nuts, seeds, and flaked coconut. Pulse until the mixture is coarsely ground with some bigger pieces still remaining.
Transfer to a large bowl and stir in the almond flour, sweetener, pumpkin pie spices and salt. Add the pumpkin puree and melted butter and mix until well combined.
Spread mixture evenly onto the prepared baking sheet and bake 30 to 40 minutes, stirring frequently, until golden. Turn of the oven and let the granola sit inside for another 10 to 20 minutes, watching carefully so it doesn’t burn.
Remove and let cool.
Yield: 8

Cholesterol: 15mg

Food energy: 315 kcal

Total fat: 28.79g

Calories from fat: 259

Carbohydrate: 9.09g

Protein per serving: 7.57g

Total dietary fiber: 4.82g

you will be hungry to start with but you will get used to it. I try to have a 50 or so calories left over so I can have a snack or I make a calorie controlled meal but put a little to one side for later, this works well with omelette. As long as you snack on something BSD friendly you shouldn’t do too much harm even if you do exceed the 800 on the odd day. Also drink plenty of water, it fills you up too.

if it is just oats with nothing in it like ready flavoured oats mixes then it should be okay but only in I think 20g portions and not too often. Even if it is a brand like Scotts or Quaker. I just buy large bags of unbranded from Sainsburys. I used to love my porridge but with golden syrup so it is a total no no for me but my husband has started having it daily but he is not on this diet.

Hi all,
This is a great thread!
I am planning on starting again as I did a year ago but have put the weight back on.
Iv seen a lot of people say they aren’t hungry on the diet, and I wonder what I did wrong as I was SO HUNGRY.

I stuck to only having 50g of veg but can I actually fill up on veg? As I’ve seen some people say yes, some know amd I’m very confused!

Hmmm I think I just bought whatever oats were there so I highly doubt they’re steel cut.

Iv also been making cauliflower and oat pizza bases and loaves but am now worried that Iv been sabotaging myself thinking I’d been clever.

I lost a stone and a half a year ago but have put it all back on as I am a self saboteur.
I just cannot seem to do it again properly as I was SO HUNGRY and obsessed with food that I’m scared to do it again and keep messing it up.

Send help!

Omg! I’ve nearly done it! Just a smidge over 11stone this morning, that’s almost the whole 5lbs gone in just one day! :O Just shows what a good rap on the knuckles can do!
I have today’s food already sorted, the exact same as yesterday’s, so it will be interesting to see if I lose another 5lbs.

Also interesting, at least for me, is that I feel as bright as a button this morning, despite being seriously below my usual protein intake, by forgetting to have a tin of tuna (that would have taken me over 800c actually). It pretty much has to be due to managing a complete fast, no nibbling, for over 18 hours. I’m slightly worried that it might be muscle loss making up the difference, but it was a mostly inactive day so no great need for more protein, apart form a couple of rockandroll sessions that got me out of puff. Hopefully that was enough to prevent any muscle wastage.

Onwards and downwards!

Hi Blah, Welcome. I’m 3 weeks in. It’s going well so far – some carb flu in the first week, some mourning for a few of my previously favorite things but despite a couple of mini plateaus, my weight is dropping nicely. More surprising to me, I feel much better, steady level of energy during the day and sleeping well (unheard of for me). No raging hunger.

There is a terrific December challenge thread ‘Busy, busy with Sant’s elves …’. Just a week in so not too late to join. Wonderful support there, lots of experience and a great place to vent or celebrate with new friends as the day requires.

All the best, I’m looking forward the sharing this journey with you.

Hi Andy
Thanks. I read your post about the cloud bread. It’s on my list of things to check out. How are you going?
Marie x

Oats are okay as long as they still have all the good bits in (steel cut, or rolled?) but are on the high side carb wise, so keep portions small. If you are one of the people who has to cut carbs to keto (20g) levels then it is likely the granola will have to temporarily go or you won’t have sufficient carbs to allow for nutritious above ground vegetables.