Hi, I have put on 1.7kg in the last 12 days. I did have an experiment with the fudge brownie thingo but 1.7kg seems a bit extreme! By my calculation it would mean eating 800 cals a day above my tdee and I know I haven’t done this. I haven’t had carbs either apart from what I have been eating all along and the fudge brownie thingo. I have returned to swimming after a longish winter break. Only been swimming for the past 4 days though. Also of late have increased a drug known to cause weight gain – but that much in such a short time, it seems unreal. Not hormonal as post menopausal. What do others think

Hi

Have had an excellent 19 day run since starting the BSD losing 7lbs and then lost it today as had a wedding event and ate all day 🙁

Really want to get back on track, but worried I will be super hungry the day after and may not have the will power!

Anyone else got successfully going again after a hiccup who can offer me a bit of help to get on the programme!?? I really want to stick to it!!

Thanks so much 😌

Way to go OtW. How exciting is that? !!!

Fantastic efforts have paid off with fantastic results. 😀 Now just keep it going……….will be awaiting news with bated breath.

Great news about your offer too, really hope it is accepted and that all your dreams come true.

Yay…Onetowatch…way to go….brilliant news. Amazing you can fast so much….did you work up to it, or just do it? How lovely a place in Italy…will you rent it out? Best of luck.

Best wishes
Nonna Mary xxxx

Thanks sunshine- no tests – the scale only but good to know! Have ha da bit of a feast day- will finish up around 1200 or so but intend to fast tomorrow again so I think it’s ok.

An addition, just looking at my tonic water question for myself and apparently diet drinks contain double the amount of salt than sugared drinks. This is also similar to what happens to either low fat or low sugar foods. When they take something out they put something just as bad back in to improve the taste. Guess I better get used to soda water which contains no calories naturally.

Hi there to you both. Technically there are problems with artificially sweetened drinks because the body thinks it is going to get some sustenance when sweetness hits and when it doesn’t it sends out signals that it wants sugar, hence cravings. The fact that it is a chemical also has the effect of the body not disposing of it easily which can cause bloating. As a now and then thing and if you are in control of your carb cravings then I dont see a problem, I cant imagine vodka without tonic and cannot bring myself to have full sugar tonic water (note to self, check carbs and calories in tonic water). However, there have been people on here who have been drinking diet drinks on a regular basis, cant say whether they were okay or not as they dont seem to be around now. Try fizzy water with a hint of unsweetened apple or orange juice, just a touch. I personally like plain water but always start the day with lemon and water.

I dont see the point in making yourself miserable if you cant have a little treat now and then.

By the way there is a lot about this if you look in the Search box, type in diet drinks or similar.

Congratulations all round OtoW, weight down and a house in Italy. Not to burst your bubble but if you are having either blood tests or urine tests at the hospital try not to be in ketosis or you might face investigations or be prepared to tell them you fast – as an ex-nurse just thought I would put it to you.

Thanks very much. After a break yesterday and today – thankfully haven’t gone over 1600 calories on either of the days – looking to get back to BSD 800.

Good that I have got to lose only 3 more kilos.

Onetowatch – fantastic news all round! Congratulations!!!

I was about to post the exact same question – I understand the re-educating the palate thing too but I really want to be able to drink a cold, fizzy drink that doesn’t have sugar i.e. diet coke, are these ok? (I drink fizzy water with a aqueeze of lemon or lime etc. but still want something different).

Hello everybody- I am joining this thread because I literally am now on the last push to my ultimate goal. I have less than 6lbs to go. I am 138.6 lb and want to get to 133 lb which will mean a 3 stone weight loss in total. I am aiming to achieve my dream in the next 30 days. I am going away for a week on 25th September and my aim is to have achieved what I set out to do when embarking on BSD 800 on 8th January by that date. I can see the finish line! I have lost 20% of my body weight and am determined to do this.

The exercise bike is coming out of the loft tomorrow and my cycling regime starts on Monday! I have worked out that I have 30 days to lose 6lb and I am determined to do it! Today I am 138.6 lb and I want to get to 133 lb. I will try a combination of exercise, fasting, strict BSD 800 and walking. I reckon my 30 day regime is doable. It feels a bit like when I embarked on the 8 week BSD- I knew I would be able to do it for eight weeks- that was 32 weeks ago! I feel I will be able to commit to hard work for the next 30 days to help me achieve my goal! Hope to be able to report a loss on Tuesday! Have a good bank holiday weekend everyone.

Nonna ‘s Mary ,
I’m hitched on , I’m bringing a heap of Chicken soup aboard , a powerful antidote to Al . K . Hole I’m told !!
Anyone want a cup feel free to join me 🍲🍲🍲
Glad the house Valuation is now over , £3000 isn’t a huge outlay to make it completely saleable I wouldn’t think , I’m sure we would have to spend heaps more here if we were to sell !
Have a good weekend ,
Love H 66 xx

Oh yeah and we put an offer in on a different house- next door to where we are staying- so excited!

Hi Allie ,
Funny thing whenever we felt unwell as children , Mum would make a big pot of chicken soup , with heaps of veg , it always touched the spot , & Mum believed it boosted the immune system & could send any ailment packing !
In more recent years this has been echoed by many health professionals , and Chicken soup apparently has healing properties .
My starting point today was to go get ingredients and get it going A.S.A.P .
I did that , and could hardly wait for it to cook , have already partaken , and it was good !
I then read before your suggestion that you could bring me some if closer , wow E.S.P .?
I plan to have plenty of nourishing chicken soup over the weekend , will not worry about weighing food or self until Tuesday , just hope if there’s been an ‘ Al Gain ‘ , it will be gone by Tues .
Thanks for your kindness Allie 😘
So many positives going on here , great to hear 👍👏👏
Have a great weekend all ,
H 66

Super bloody fucking good news report!

So last weigh was Tuesday at 75.2

Fasted weds 24 hours then ate 800 Thursday and then fasted Friday up till lunchtime today. Pre lunch weigh in. ….

Bsd drum roll…….

72.2!

Get in!!

I did just have an 800 cal lunch – antipasti, one glass wine, one fork of spaghetti, rabbit and veg so it ‘au we’ll pile back on a bit but I have weigh in with nhs on weds so pretty confident one more fast from tomorrow till Tuesday am should do the trick.

Totally thrilled.

For anyone thinking of fasting it really isn’t so hard! Did 24 first then 36 and just now a 42 which Jason fung says is optimal for ketosis.

Go me.

Xxx

hello again, Esnecca:

This is the second time in 2 days that I’ve found your posts extremely interesting. I hope you won’t find it intrusive
to refer to the discussion you were having with SunnyB yesterday regarding the appearance of bony parts of
the body. Most people here start out with 2-3 stone to lose. You and I are at 167lbs(?) and 142 lbs, respectively, so
there are few discussions on how this degree of weight loss manifests itself. I’m observing with somewhat strange
detachment, clearly defined ribs and pelvic bones, and it seems different in terms of how I’ve looked in the past at a similar
weight. The only conclusion I’ve come to is that very low carb redefines the body because it is so efficient at fat burning.
I’m rather surprised by it. I’m 68 (though feel about 40), 5’7″, BMI 22.4, and have a slender to medium frame. I, too,have
a good deal of loose skin, but my face has somehow avoided this fate. In high school and college I weighed a consistent
123 lbs, regardless of what I ate. You mentioned you were thinking of setting your goal to the 120lbs. you weighed in
college. What I’ve tried unsuccessfully to determine is how to subtract the amount of weight in loose skin we know we
possess. Do you have any thoughts on this? I’m thinking that going too low might be a case of diminishing returns if we
attempt these goals, as we may end up looking too thin. This is rather embarrassing to admit, but I’ve lost pretty
much all breast tissue, and the only remedy for it has been a mastectomy type bra. I’m not a remotely vain woman,
but it’s oddly traumatic to be missing this body part. 🙂 It’s all rather strange, and will take some getting used to,
I think. I find it almost surreal to be fitting into size 6/8 trousers, from a size 3X. Thanks for the Whole Foods info.
I will be following up on it! Your thoughts would be much appreciated on the above, I appreciate your bringing the
subject up. Starting weight: 285lbs. Current weight: 143.
Enjoy your weekend!
Allie

Good Morning, Hello 66, All

I was thinking of you before falling asleep last night, I missed you and hoped that you just might have gone away for
the bank holiday weekend. I’m sorry you’ve had a difficult few days. I can easily understand how a modest birthday
celebration might turn into something else. I guess we all know that alcohol is a central nervous system depressant,
and could return thoughts to happier days, allowing Onslo/Al to get his dirty trainer in the door (I’m definitely adding
the “cyanosed nose” to his profile – he’s getting more repulsive by the day!). You may well feel a little ragged today.
If I wasn’t on the other side of the Atlantic, and if you would permit me, I’d already be on my way to you with a bowl of
homemade chicken soup (carbs be damned). Please treat yourself with kindness, lovey, and let us be the wind beneath
your wings for awhile. We’ll carry you safety.
Love and hugs,
Allie

Bonjour, feeling great. Had 35 mins in the pool yesterday, it is hot here, managed 25 mins this morning so will go in again later and hope to make it a full hour. Weight is down again but BG is steady at 116. Not much more to say except that yes S-B I am well determined to make a big dent in my weight but more importantly get BG back to where it was around 90 to 100. Have a good rest of the weekend everyone.

Glad you got your valuation Mary.

As the wine was prosecco, it was really 3 half flutes worth. I do feel emotionally spent today.

Got my paperwork through for the new job so next is a reference check and all should be good.

Huge congratulations to you both, CysterBSD800!!! That’s fabulous news and I can imagine you are on cloud nine and positively floating. Definitely take good care of yourself and I’m sure upping your carb intake a little would be a good idea, given the changes your body is going to undergo now.

Warmest wishes to you for a smooth pregnancy and much joy.

My darling Liz. How my heart goes out to you.

I lost my mum when I was 15 and I often think it is almost easier at that age. We didn’t have time to become friends or to appreciate each other. Too busy living teenage angst…

Now, you have a mum shaped hole in your heart but I KNOW how proud she is that you haven’t been tempted to fill it with booze. It wouldn’t work anyhow, but last year you might have tried and lost yourself in the process.

So, I’m thinking of you and Kev during all your troubles and hoping you are both well.

“When you speak of her, speak not with tears, for thoughts of her should not be sad. Let memories of the times you shared give you comfort, for her life was rich because of you.” Author Unknown

L xx

🌈🌈❤️

Hi all

Apologies for the radio silence. It’s been a hectic week interspersed with a flare up of my stomach ulcer. It’s annoying but didn’t last long.

Since then, my appetite has been out of control and I’ve been fairly restricted in what I can eat. No salad veg or spicy foods. Enter the ole demon of ham and cheese sandwiches 😱

So today I’m trying to climb back on the wobbly wagon. Fortunately I don’t appear to have gained weight but need to stop the rot now! Trying to do a 1000 cal today and I also have had my shopping delivered this morning, to stop the bakery calling.

Will be back later after I’ve caught up on all the news…

L xx

Thanks SunnyB, that’s encouraging.
I’m definitely not shifting off BSD, just trying to tweak it so I start to lose my saddlebags.

Recently I tried eating 50g carbs, and it did improve my sleep a little, but I’m going back to my previous ‘no loose carbs’ (no predominately carbohydrate food without significant trace nutrients to justify it’s place in my digestive system) as that’s what worked before, and is easier to stick to than ’50g’ which needs weighing and nutrition information. I rarely had as much as 30g though and I had stalled with that method, which is partly why I was tinkering with carbs, but the stalling was probably due to eating too much cream/not counting enough calories for the amount that I ate, so that’s the next thing to try cutting down on. It will actually be easy to avoid while I’m away too.
I’ll only go back up to 50g carbs IF cutting down on fats doesn’t help. At least I’m maintaining the loss without going hungry at all.

Oops, looks like I forgot to press send after writing that.
In the meantime, cutting out cream and only eating according to appetite (plus a protein shake), I’ve dropped to the next mark on my scales. 🙂 Sleep was pretty weird though.

Fairyface I hope you are feeling pain free & much better now.
I am back on 800 calories a day with a vengeance & it seems to be working. It’s about twelve weeks to my 70th birthday & I want to be at my goal weight then since my summer target was not reached🙁 I have 22lbs to lose to reach ten stone that is the higher end of my ideal weight range but that will do. At the moment I have been fitting in daily DVD workouts alternating toning & aerobics.
Sorry for the delay in messaging I have been away yet again because last weekend was my granddaughters naming ceremony so wine etc & hotel food! My downfall is a glass of wine & I will plan in one with supper that will be a beef stir fry. I still find eating during the day totally rots up my appestat & having coffee with a spoon of coconut oil midday then my kefir mid afternoon seems to be keeping me on track. Weirdly exercising seems to also depress my appetite & I have rediscovered Jane Fonda excellent exercise DVDs for an oldie like me. The downside of losing weight when older is how revealing it is of my now wrinkly less elastic skin so I fear I’m going end up like a wrinkled prune😂
I hope you are all doing well👍
Margaret xx

Where can I find the recipe for the crackers?

I was reading up on ab exercises yesterday or the day before, and it turns out my long standing favourite dead easy exercise is actually the best!!

Basically, whatever position you are in, straighten your back, pull your shoulders back and your stomach in! Hold as long as you can. My cue to do this was (and is again now that the movement is noticeable again), whenever I notice or remember my tummy sticks out! Obviously this doesn’t remove the fat, but when it’s gone, my tummy should be already pre-toned. 😀

(I also do some dead bug stuff as part of my mini workout.)

As for mini goals, I give a little whoop every time I reach a new (2lb) notch down on my scales. 🙂

Good morning friends!

Welcome Kerry9. 21 years is a fantastic achievement 👍

I’ve deliberately had my groceries delivered the past 2 weeks so as to avoid temptation from bread and wine! It’s worked so far and I’m now feeling quite strong and motivated! Lost 2 lbs this week. Have gone from 18.6 to 17.13. It’s SO good to see 17 again! Must be 2 years since I last saw that number! Woohoo!

I’ve done either a foolish or inspired thing – I’ve booked my annual review with the doc on Tuesday morning, followed by the nurse to extract blood for the usual tests. Liver function, cholesterol, diabetes, etc. So that will keep me in line over this weekend and curb any birthday temptations! Imagining my blood with a lager top froth fills me with shame! Whatever it takes, Kaz, whatever it takes ….!

Nona Mary- good luck with the renos. It’ll be worth it as you’ll add value. 👍

Ok well I’m off to do a bit of gardening – no rain for 4 days on the trot – unheard of! The weed killer might just work rather than being washed away!

Thinking of Liz and Kevin and hope all went well yesterday.

See you soon, lovely people. 😘

Kazzzzzzzzzz xx

Hi Annette, welcome to the forums 🙂
Lots of people on here use Fitness Pal, but I’m not great with apps, so I set up a spreadsheet with the basic nutrition info of the things I eat in one set of columns and formulae to work out portion contents and totals a bit further along, I then copy and (special) paste the daily totals onto another sheet with dates in the first column and a wide column for notes on exercise or w/e.
It’s not going to be easy to use while on holiday though, so I am currently working on a strategy that doesn’t need need detailed calculations! Sorry I can’t be more help. :S

Cyster, so happy to hear your news!! Really thrilled for you and wishing you much joy and fun!

Hey Esnecca, my mini goal for next week is to go to France (today) and find you the vile ab exercises either on the Internet or find a way to describe them. Pete the Personal trainer will probably send me a link, he’s a lovely man. So watch this space, as I am about to start harassing the troops to get ready and can’t think properly about the abs!

I am going to throw some back ones in too as I think they are the holy grail!

I’m going back to Pilates in September, having found a new amazing teacher. The old amazing teacher went to Cornwall five years ago (rude!) the new one does Nordic walking, I’m giving that a go too. Tried it once so far, loved it, it uses upper body too. Her top tip even without poles, is the keep arms straight and slightly behind you as this forces shoulders to work. Also to roll through your foot from mid heel to toe when you walk.

Will pass on what I learn and I will def. send you ab exercises when I get a minute (when rest of family is on a Via Ferrata maybe!)

Thank you so much for all the good wishes. Such an exciting time. I’m so so happy. Still trying to eat healthy might have to up carbs to 50g I think not supposed to go lower than that when expecting.

Hi there I’m annette from Melbourne and have just signed up for the online blood sugar diet, I am gradually ticking off the things to do before I start on the 11 th sept.
Does anyone have any ideas for a diet diary and log book?

Hi Sal!
I just read your post. We have a lot in common. I’m also in Australia, am 39, teacher with 2 kids and a partner.
How are you going on the BSD? I have had some good results after completing the 8wks. I’m looking to get back on track and have another 10-12 kgs to go.
I guess I’m looking for other people in a similar position to share tips and motivation. Would be great to hear about your journey so far 😀

I’m totally up for it, SunnyB. My mindset is still focused on that 120 lb goal which according to Google is 8st 7lb, so we’ve got the same target. I’m just dividing it up into shorter segments. If my waist measurement remains at 30 even at goal weight, I can accept that. The bones are something else, aren’t they? I can feel the outlines of my pelvic cradle! When I weighed 120 lbs in high school and college there was no protruding pelvis, I assure you.

JackieM, I am very much inclined towards exercise and I have the time. I walk 15,000-20,000 steps a day and do light weight training at the end of each walk. I also do some basic Pilates mat exercises, maybe 10 minutes at most, and a couple of different planks (35 seconds for the standard, 10 seconds for the side planks). What kind of vile ab things does your PT recommend? I’ve done all of this on my own so I would love to benefit from your experience with a real life professional. Thank you for your suggestions and keep them coming! I am greedy for any and all tips. 😀

I got the gist just fine, Onetowatch, and the typo was awesome too! Thank you so much. 🙂

What a testament to the power of the BSD! I know from personal experience how it can break down the seemingly impenetrable barrier to weight loss caused by PCOS, and while I never had to deal with fertility issues, my best friend struggled for 10 years to conceive a child and it was the most heartwrenching, prolonged anguish and strain I’ve ever had to witness.

Congratulations, CysterBSD800! May your pregnancy be nothing but smooth sailing, glowing skin and glossy hair, and may your child know nothing but health and happiness.

Awesome news Cyster! A massive congratulations 🙂
Thanks for your post too Cathy, I love motivational quotes 🙂
And sounds like you have a busy weekend coming up Theodora!
I don’t have any massive news this week but am very pleased that after yoyo-ing the same 1-2kg up and down again for 2 months – 10 weeks actually, I had a visit from the Whoosh fairy this week and lost the pesky 1kg PLUS an additional 800g, putting me at my lowest weight for 5 years 🙂
I also had a nice surprise this morning when taking my measurements (I do this monthly). I have lost another 6cm from my waist, in just the last 4 weeks!
I know this wouldn’t have happened overnight so during the last month when I wasn’t actually losing any weight on the scales I was still losing centimetres 🙂 shows the importance of not giving up!
I’m on leave from work for the next 10 days so hoping this will make it easier to stick to plan as I’ll have more prep time plus have more control over when I eat – on workdays for example I have to eat breakfast at 6am, lunch 12 or 1 then dinner at 7pm. Now I’m off work I’m going to go 16:8 as most days I can have a later brunch instead of breakfast and lunch. I’m off out for a family day out today and have my packed lunch with me – egg & bacon muffins & salad, strawberries and some nuts for a snack.
Hope everyone has a good week 🙂

Wow Cyster – our very first (as far as I know ) BSD baby😃 So very happy for you 🎉🎊🎉 doing the happy dance here😀 Huge congratulations.

Have got a full house at Hotel Theodora this bank holiday weekend – already had friends staying when, this evening, totally out of the blue, my two sons turned up😀😀😁 Haven’t seen them in forever (well, a couple of months at least) so was absolutely thrilled to have to make up yet more beds😁 Not sure this weekend will be exactly on track as they have booked my favourite waterside restaurant on Monday evening to take me out for an early birthday dinner. Oh, how I love my boys 😁😁😁😁 Feeling very blessed 😁

CysterBSD800…Can I join in by saying a massive congratulations. You are going to have such a wonderful time. Again congratulations.
Nonna Mary
xxx

CysterBSD800- that is absolutely awesome news! Congratulations. I am so happy for you.

What fantastic newsCysterBSD800, congratulations to you and your partner!

I have an amazing announcement to make. After 8 years of infertility I recently found out that my husband and I are expecting. I am so happy and pleased. Cannot contain my excitement. I feel so blessed and happy. I really feel that after my faith and prayer the biggest thing that helped me was this way of eating and the weight loss. Super happy. I have pcos and this happened without any fertility drugs so happy. Hope this motivates others who are also in the same boat

Hello Peoples….a lot of interesting posts here today.

Hello66…glad you are back. Hitch onto the wagon now?

Allie…I love your colloquialisms…I will see if I can think of some more.

Kazzuk….I didn’t sleep too well to begin with, but that is a problem of mine anyway. Alcohol withdrawal will upset your rhythms so give it time.

Madmare…you can do this!

FFBB…sounds like you did well with the food…and only 3 glasses of wine…well done.

Had the house valued today…we need to spend about £3,000 to make it completely saleable…then its on the market.

Stay well everyone,

Nonna Mary
xxxx

Don’t worry about starvation, as long as you stick with the 800 cals you’ll be fine. Taking some exercise will avoid the loss of muscle mass. If you are unsure you are getting the correct nutrients do take a multivit.

Life happens and there will be times that social events put a kink in our eating plan, however, if you stick as closely as you can to the principles – good hydration, including good fats, avoiding high carb foods and not drinking too much alcohol – you should find that any impact will be minimal. And all you need to do afterwars, is get right back to the regime as soon as you can – weighing, measuring and recording everything consumed. You’ll be surprised how easy it is to get back to it.

Have a good w/e.

I read this quote in my book last night “success can be regarded as a product of countless failures or as something that comes into view after taking many small steps up a steep slope. People generally judge something to be a success or a failure according to results but I think there is more to it than this. I’ll respect a person whose still standing at the foot of a mountain but standing firm and looking up at the peak”. This is taken from Fall down 7 times get up 8 which I am currently reading. A young man’s voice from the silence of autism. I thought it was quite apt for those of us still standing firm and staring up at our mountain.

Phew!

What an emotional day. It was upbeat but it was a long afternoon.

A***** had cards printed with S****’s picture from the wedding last October and a poem on the reverse. The poem is called Feel No Guilt In Laughter and it was perfect for the occasion.

The 1st 30 minutes we listened to a CD of him playing covers of 50’s/60’s guitar bands (he was a super talented guitarist). They even printed album covers from The Shadows onto the coffin.

The buffet was a total carb orgy. Sandwiches/pizza/quiche/potato salad. There was a dressed salad but it was feta and olives (yuk!) I waited until everyone else had eaten and then cleared the trays of the mixed leaf salad garnish. So I had that with my home made dressing. I had some cooked chicken breast when I got home (I didn’t want to take it with me as I felt A***** may be insulted and I would never do that to her).

Drink wise I managed to snag a teapot for my mum and our new friend and a jug for milk so I could keep them topped up (you can take Hospitality out of the girl……). I had their glasses of prosecco plus mine (3 flutes) and a barman brought us a jug of iced water with lemon and lime wedges and 3 glasses.

It was a good thing I didn’t want dessert because they catered for 50 X 1 (per person) desserts but people took 3 or 4 each before the staff twigged and they had no back ups. (I would have put a member of staff at the buffet saying 1 per person) My mum had a chocolate eclair and our new friend had a strawberry custard tart with whipped cream.

I am now going for a shower and to chill with some crap TV.

FFBB out. X

thanks a lot. I am Lacto Ovo vegetarian so can eat eggs and dairy. Will give these suggestions a try.

So far good progress in week 1. Since I have not much to lose – can live with slow and steady weight loss. However, I want to ensure I am not losing muscle mass or get into starvation.

Also, how does one ensure one gets enough nutrients? Do we take multivitamins or other dietary intakes that will help ensure that?

Another question, if one has occasional gaps due to social obligations etc – how does one recover, what’s the impact?

Oh my lord look at my fat finger I phone typos.

Hopefully you get the gist.

Ps- we nearly bought a house in Italy today but on closer inspection found some huge cracks – good to look beyond the tiles and shutters one to watch!!!