Egg Fast

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  • posted by KazzUK
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    Good morning! Some great recipe ideas. The cloud bread sounded yummy, Kirsten. 👍👍
    The wrap I make is 2 or 3 well whisked eggs with a splash of water. Melt a small knob of butter in a large round frying pan/skillet. Once cooked, tip on to kitchen paper and dab top also to ‘dry’. Then add whatever filling and fold the left and right sides in then roll up like you would with a tortilla wrap. Cut in half. You can add garlic powder or fresh, herbs, to the egg mixture for extra flavour. Makes a good packed lunch. 😁
    Gotta say am struggling to eat more than 6 eggs a day, just not hungry!.
    Kazzeexx

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    Ok day three is here guys! Elky you did make me laugh and I did listen in a scarlet o’hara voice going on in my head😂😂❤️

    Kazz I fortunately haven’t had much wind at all😂. It just goes to show how differently each of our bodies react to different foods!

    Kafin I have always been frightened of taking magnesium as I have heard a few horror stories and what damage they can do. I also think I remember being told that you need to take them with another supplement to activate them?? Don’t know but I will do a bit of research. I have never been good at taking supplements. I tried a fibre one once and all it did was bloat me! I don’t know if I get enough fibre in my daily (normal) eating and that is why it had that effect on me. I really must request some more blood tests to see if I am deficient in anything and then take it from there. Allie sorry I got you mixed up with Kafin yesterday and I am glad this fast is making your visits to kitchen less with less work for you❤️❤️ Always a bonus my lovely friend! I am with you on the. It being that hungry. I am also like Kazz and can’t seem to go above 6 eggs!

    Day three and I have had my bulletproof coffee with the egg again and I am going to make a cheese omelette in a mo. I am off out to meet my friend for lunch but I will watch him eat and I will drink sparkling water.

    Hope you all have an eggstactic day😂😂❤️❤️ Birdy 💞🦜

  • posted by Elky
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    Good morning miscreants, checking in at the beginning of Day 4.

    I confess that I’m not seeing the results I’d hoped for: no further discard after the initial 0.5kg/1lb and the breathalyser remains glued between 0.35 and 0.4. I am keeping my fingers crossed that you’re right Kafin, I’m ramping up to a big discard, but I’m starting to think it’s just not working for me as well as I’d hoped.

    That said, there are enormous pluses. I’m not gaining, right? 😊 I’m still really enjoying the eggs, nowhere near tired of them. I’ve tried things I swore I wouldn’t like the bulletproof coffee and discovered I really liked it. And it’s so easy not to have to think about what to cook!!

    Last night I pinched Kafin’s idea (again!!) and made cloud bread, then realised that I had heaps of eggs still to be eaten for the day because of course I wasn’t going to eat the whole batch of cloud bread in a single sitting. So I fried *two* more eggs in butter and topped two of the clouds with butter, a fairly modest serve of cheddar cheese (1 ounce across both clouds), and then the eggs. My stars it was good!! Slightly reminiscent of fry ups in greasy spoon cafes, and I can’t say I found that a bad thing… 😉 So that was a total of 7 eggs for the day. I don’t think I could have managed more, tbh – I was full!

    Will do the cloud bread thing again tonight as I’m going out, so that’s something quick and easy to throw together before I leave the house.

    My compost bin is starting to look very strange, it’s full of egg shells – I do not think the worms will be best pleased with me lol

    Kazz, thank you for the instructions on your wraps, they sound really good. I will definitely have a crack at them. I’m like Birdy, I haven’t had wind problems, but I do feel ever so slightly bloated this morning. Like you I’m really hoping it’s my gut bacteria’s last gasp as they lie with their little feet kicking feebly in the air. Die, you little buggers, die!!

    Birdy, how’s the tum now? Sorted itself out? I surely hope so.

    Kafin, Allie, other miscreants, how’s this treating you?

    Onwards and downwards all, Elky

  • posted by Kafin13
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    Sorry all – having a bad mental health day (unrelated to eggs) so not up to posting today. Glad to see everyone is ok xxxx

  • posted by MerryMelba
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    Wishing you good things Kafin. 🙏🌺

  • posted by wendleg
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    I am not doing the egg fast but I care about you Kirsten. Come and check in with us when you feel you want to chat. We are all here for you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Massive hugs n the meantime .

  • posted by Birdy76
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    I am up and about again and I have the night off as I am going to wales in the morning🥰. I am looking forward to seeing one of my oldest friends!

    I ate the fast fettuccine Alfredo for supper and it was lovely and very filling! I also adapted it for my son and other half by adding smoked pancetta to theirs and they liked it too. It only takes about ten minutes to prepare and cook! Win win! I am not sure we could have it on our normal BSD as it is very high in fat and would take a lot of our 800 calories, but I may well have it again.

    I ate that at 6.30pm and then I went to work and didn’t get hungry all night! So I fasted from 6.30 until 8am when I had a single boiled egg with a spoonful of mayo. I didn’t have my bulletproof coffee as I was going to bed and didn’t want to be too awake! I had energy for days at work too! I had two bottles of SP sparkling water but had to take a few painkillers as my shoulder has been really hurting! I have broke the fast today but having a coffee with cream but I needed it! I don’t think it would have done too much harm as I know my body and it needed to have some normalcy😂. I don’t know wether to continue with the fast today or not? As I have said I am off to wales tomorrow and will be eating normally all weekend. I will take heed and be careful though. I am very surprised I am not wanting to vomit every time I think of eating another egg😂😂. I am not hungry either! I only had four eggs in total yesterday though. But that is nights for you! They mess up everything😱. I have a busy day ahead trying to get organised for the weekend and making food for my OH! He has embraced keto so far and has tried things I never thought he would! No vegetables so far but one step at a time😂😂.

    I just want to say to you all that this has been fun and I look forward to seeing exactly how we have all done.

    Before I go when you are all back on BSD you need to try the fathead low carb gnocchi! It really is good and the recipe makes loads so you can freeze it
    In BSD friendly portions until you want it. Hope you are all having a good day. Kirsten thinking of you lovely lady 🥰. Birdy 💞🦜

  • posted by Kafin13
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    Thanks all – just crashing a bit at the moment. It happens. Birdy, you’ve done so well, enjoy Wales – I have fond memories of Betws-y-coed 💕
    I’m still in the egg game but like Elky a bit disappointed in the lack of results. Although results on my breathalyzer have been more impressive than ever before and I’m hanging on to JGwens bad carb gut bacteria info hoping for good things in the long term.
    Allie – how are you doing? 💕 And Kazz?
    Elky, this is your last day but I think like me, you haven’t struggled with the eggs. Xx

  • posted by Birdy76
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    Thank you Kirsten ❤️ I had a small amount of asparagus cooked in butter, chilli and garlic and a small medium rare steak. It was so so good😂😂. I will jump on the scales in the morning and see if I put any back on😂. Hope you get some sleep and feel better Kirsten xx a big well done to all of us 🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • posted by Ilovecatsndogs
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    Many people may lose a chunk of weight from the fat fast (egg diet).

    It’s also a very useful for stalls and getting your body into ketosis ( for those whose bodies are stubborn), like mine!

    Atkins’ original low carb daily diet was to eat not less than 1500 calories per day, with the exception of the fat fast ( you could choose eggs or other sources of protein and fats like a whole box of cream cheese, chicken salad with extra mayo, etc.) totaling 1000 calories per day.

    There would be a deficit of calories plus very very low carb, thus enabling you to lose weight, help with stalls, and get deeper into ketosis.

    So don’t feel bad if you didn’t lose a lot of weight! Not everyone does.

    This egg fast did help a lot with my stall, so I am happy about that and now on my regular BSD diet with pan fried skin on salmon with olive oil and butter and my usual big romaine salad.

  • posted by Kafin13
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    Thanks Ilovecatsanddogs – I was just chatting with Elky about it and a lot of people in the Facebook group are using it to kickstart or repair damage from overindulging so it could be that a fair number of them are losing water weight whereas we had all been doing BSD. Of course there are those that have been doing LCHF and still losing massive amounts but I bet they don’t have nice personalities…😊🦄
    I am back up to 0.7 on breathalyzer today so very definitely in ketosis and I had a small loss when I weighed this morning so hopefully it sticks🥚

  • posted by Elky
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    Good morning from the future, miscreants, and welcome to Day 5!

    Kafin you’re absolutely right, I am a long way from sick of eggs!! I might be ever so slightly sick of butter, but it’s all good. I could definitely keep going with this, the egg part is not a problem for me. I think I will give it two further days and start transitioning out on Monday. I eat more regularly on weekends anyway, so it’ll be nice to be able to graze on eggs!

    In breaking news, the scales shifted – I am down 0.95kg (2.1lb). This is pretty exciting for me 😊 So that’s a total of 1.45kg (3.2lb) down to the Egg Fast so far. Relatively modest compared to many people’s experiences, but I’m pretty happy with it. Kafin, I think that all those who counselled patience may have been right after all. Who knew?!

    Also, because I am clearly even more technically inept than I thought, I have worked out the breathalyser issue thanks to Merry’s and Birdy’s intervention. At some point between when I was doing water fasts and when I started this one, I must have clicked over onto a different setting. Merry you’re right, it comes back on at the same setting as I used last time, and I normally don’t press to scroll between them so I just assumed it stayed on the same thing. But at some point I must have accidentally scrolled because …. the 0.35 I have been whinging about all week is %.BAC and if I toggle to mg/L like Birdy said, then it magically turns into 0.67. So the Egg Fast *did* kick me into comparable levels of ketosis with the long water fast (72 hours).

    (For those who are confused, the breathalyser discussion is over on the weekly thread.)

    OK all, have a good one.

  • posted by alliecat
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    Hello, miscreants! I’ve been quiet for a day or two, because our egg experiment has been surprising difficult! I can do
    anything for 5 days, but I folded tonight, when the eggs only diet caused dry heaves, and I couldn’t take all the sulphur
    backlash. I’m 1 day short, but will still see what the verdict is on the scales sat. morning. Will still add the vegetables back
    in slowly, though. Several days in, I had a distant memory that returned to me about a very lopsided protocol that I tried
    at about the age of 24. For about a 5 day period I drank 8 glasses of water and nothing but chicken breast each day. By
    day 5 I felt very shaky, nauseated, and had to quit. I lost 8 lbs in the process, but didn’t feel at all well, and when I returned to
    what I thought was a balanced diet at the time, the weight quickly returned. This was simply the same concept, no carbs,
    and we’ve just switched the proteins. Upsetting the gut bacteria is well worth the effort though, for those who continue to
    feel well doing this. I’m in hot pursuit of refilling my stock of unpasteurized kimchi, which is surprising easy for me to
    incorporate into my diet. I do have an excellent source, but unfortunately it wouldn’t be available to you in the UK. There
    have been a number of recipes posted though, and are easily found by putting “kimchi” into the searchbox. Kafin, if you
    don’t have a reliable source, the one I use is from southern Cali, and I’d be happy to share it. Are we posting our results
    on sat. morning? Results may not be as dramatic as we might have hoped, since we have all been mainlining water on
    the BSD, but I think there have been secondary improvements anyway. It certainly can’t hurt to keep our
    systems guessing. For those who are using this as a method to break through a plateau, I desperately hope that this
    will be the answer. Only 1 more day, kids! You can be proud of yourselves for seeing it through. 🙂

  • posted by KazzUK
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    Good morning, friends and happy Friday!
    I also couldn’t face any more eggs by yesterday evening and went to bed without dinner. Scales show a 3lb loss this morning. I’d do this again, may be every couple of months.
    Sending you hugs, Kirsten. Birdy, enjoy your weekend in Wales. My unc lives in Machynlleth (Allie, pronounced Macunth-leth) so am used to regular jaunts there and onwards to Aberystwyth and the beach at Aberdovey.
    The wind subsided after a couple of days and my insides are now silent! 🤩
    Have a good day, y’all!
    Kazzeexx

  • posted by ClarinetCathy
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    A really interesting eggsperiment! Although I didn’t join you on this fast, I was very interested in the science behind it and as a vegetarian I do eat eggs and cheese a lot. Eggs really are filling and my colleagues are amazed that I can feel full by just eating two eggs and mayonnaise for my lunch.

    I am back on BSD fully now following a period of ill health and some sadness and will continue to eat a lot of eggs.

    Onwards and downwards. Thank you for sharing your egg fast with us.

  • posted by alliecat
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    Thank you for the “translation”, Kazz! I think your 4 days on the egg fast yielded fantastic results! I’ll be posting my results
    tomorrow. I hope all other fellow travelers will be weighing in, too 🙂

  • posted by Kafin13
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    Allie and Kazz – you guys are rock stars! And even more so for listening to your bodies and stopping when you knew you were done. Kazz, great results and I’m looking forward to hearing yours, Allie. I have to weigh each day, it’s what keeps me on track and yesterday I thought I was finally starting to see some movement but no, back on again today which is what I have been struggling with on BSD. I’m trying to fight the fear that nothing seems to work for and believe in the science and others results but it’s hard to day in and day out get nowhere. I thank you both for doing this with me, along with Elky and Birdy, it’s much nicer to do things together and feel part of a team even if we’re not all in the same location 💕🥚
    Allie, I’d love to hear the kimchi brand you use – I can get one a mere two minutes walk away but like everything else in this fancy, celebrity market, it is ridiculously over-priced and I refuse to buy it. I could also drive 10 minutes down the road and be in Koreatown where I’m sure I can find multiple options 🥒 (weird, there’s no kimchi emoji! am using pickle instead)
    Elky and I decided to continue through to the end of the weekend as we’ve both been a little disappointed in the results (although I’m hoping Elky will have good news when she wakes up) and want to see if it’s just taking our bodies a bit longer to settle in. Since nothing has happened for me, I’m going to mix it up a little today by only having the 6 eggs and no cheese to see if maybe that will help.
    Cathy, sorry to hear you’ve been unwell and dealing with sadness – glad you popped in to be with us for a bit

  • posted by Elky
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    Hello all, just checking in to post official results at the end of my Egg Fast.

    OK, after 7 days I lost 1.45kg (3.2lb). So no further reductions after the beginning of Day 5. Although I am still hoping something else may slide away over the next day or so, as my body catches up <crosses fingers>. The readings on my breathalyser, once I sorted out that I’d accidentally messed up the unit of measurement, were very high – by the time I got into Day 5 they were almost constantly sitting between 0.7 and 0.85, which is higher than I managed after a 72 hour water fast.

    I don’t actually understand how that is the case, and am hoping for some JGwen wisdom. (I will flag this on the weekly thread too in case JGwen doesn’t check in to this thread.) While carbs were obviously virtually non-existent, protein was very high which would still have raised insulin significantly. So I don’t understand why all that nasty insulin didn’t lead to lower levels of ketones? I mean don’t get me wrong, I’m glad for the higher numbers, but I just don’t understand them. Do ketones not really provide any indication of insulin levels at all? But if they indicate fat burning, they can’t be independent of insulin levels, right? Gah, just when I think I am starting to understand the science!

    But, back to the Egg Fast: I thought it was a very worthwhile experiment, and I’m certainly up for doing it again. Unlike others (sorry Allie and Kazz!!) I did not get sick of eggs at all, I really do like eggs 😊

    And I agree with Kafin, it’s much more fun to do something like this as a little team event – so thanks for everyone who played along, or joined the cheer squad!! It really did make a difference, despite the scales being a trifle recalcitrant.

    (Cathy, I’m so sorry to hear you’ve been unwell and sad, but very glad to hear everything is back to normal now.)

    Cheers, Elky

  • posted by JGwen
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    Hi Elky,
    Think of insulin as being like a switch which controls what fuel source you are burning. You can only burn fat for fuel if you have low insulin levels. So if your breathalyser has a reading showing that you have the by-product of burning ketones you know that you have a low level of insulin.
    Not all protein sources have the same impact on insulin levels. Eggs apparently have about half the impact than meat.
    Also the problems with protein having an impact on insulin levels come when you eat more protein than your body needs to replace the amino acids lost on a daily basis. A large egg is about 6g of protein, so if you have a couple of eggs at a time three times a day, that’s going to be 36g of protein, less than you are likely to need to replace daily losses. – I think that if you stick to the 0.6g to 0.8g of protein per kg of target weight a day as your limit of protein on an egg fast you will be fine.

  • posted by Elky
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    Hi JGwen,

    Thank you so much for that explanation, it is really clear and simple and I love your switch analogy – hopefully that will actually stick for me! (You know what I’m like, I have to read everything repeatedly for it to sink in.) The way you set it out makes sense, and explains what I observed perfectly.

    I had got as far as making the connection that protein can raise insulin, but I hadn’t made the leap to the *amount* of protein being the key point – thanks again, you’ve really helped me!

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    JGwen is brilliant, isn’t she ,Elky !
    Your 3+ lbs discard after your 7 day egg fast is a great result ! I would be very happy with that !
    I have been reading about it all and I would be up for trying one with you when you can face it ! I see there are lots of different egg recipes to try to avoid boredom and I am keeping those in mind so I don’t get truly sick of eggs which would be disastrous

    How is Kafin ??
    Have a lovely evening Elky and happy Monday everyone xx

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    Hi Wendy, Kafin and I were chatting earlier and we’re already planning our next challenge 😌 Probably not eggs for a little while but I think we’re both up to have another go at it in a bit, so we’ll hold you to playing along with us then.

    (Birdy has my details if you want.)

    Hugs, Elky

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    JGwen that’s really interesting. I was reading an article about the different ways in which different sugars affect insulin. It was a very ‘shallow’ article and I was wondering if you have read anything that you could recommend. I need to eat more fruit but would really like to find out the difference between a grape, a banana and an apple! Many thanks.

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    Hey ladies! Well done on the egg fast!
    Can I ask what we’re the results? And whether you’d be recommending it to others on the forum?
    I did try to see your results on the thread but turned out quite fastidious 🤪 I guess I can go and see the results on the Facebook group too 🙂

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    Elky, I think that you’ve had a very successful result! I haven’t heard from kafin in a few days, so you probably know better than I
    how she fared with the egg fast. I just realized that I neglected to post my results my for you, Birdy, kafin and Wendy, and anyone
    else who was following along with interest..I abandoned the quest after 4 days due to nausea, but certainly would be happy to
    give it another try whenever you are going to repeat the exercise. 2.5lbs for me! Not any real difference in terms of my usual
    .5lb per day on 800cal/20g carbs! What has been your weekly pattern, Cutie?

  • posted by alliecat
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    I’m sorry Kazz, I didn’t mean to forget you 🙂 Because we email daily, you already know always what’s up with me!

  • posted by JGwen
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    Hi guys, I didn’t strictly follow the egg fast, I continued to have cream in my coffee, and I had some low carb veg stirfried in butter or microwaved with butter. But I did keep my carbs down under the 5g level for each day.
    I can’t say that there was a noticeable drop in the scales, they seem to fluctuate depending on the weather temp and moisture in the atmosphere anyway.
    However I have noticed some dimples in the surface of my spare tyre which is something I have learned to celebrate. – I have noticed in the past that when my body is using fat from a large area it goes through the stage of dimples which increase to looking like lots of invisible thumbs pressing on the skin and then I get an inch loss. Thats happened with my arms, with my thighs over the months, but finally my body is starting to work on the spare tyre.
    I am going to increase the number of meals which are egg based, and have more omelettes. It was something I did more when I started and I have got out of the habit. – Silly really when I have more eggs than will fit in the incubators at present.

  • posted by JGwen
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    Hi Verano,
    As I understand it fructose has a different pathway for processing in the body than other sugars. In particular it is processed by the liver and can increase fatty liver problems.

    You may find this research paper helpful in going into more detail.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024554/

  • posted by Verano
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    Thank you JGwen you’re a star. Looks like I might just gets some answers to the question ‘to fruit or not to fruit……’
    I’ll let you know!

  • posted by wendleg
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    V ….giving up most fruits was one of the hardes things for me when I began BSD. These days I limit myself to berries and it is tough when I see all the summer fruits here. There is a lovely man who comes round in a battered old van to deliver melons and I will only be able to buy them for any family members visiting this summer 🙁
    I used to buy trays of nectarines , apricots and peaches from the farms around us.

    I watched a video which described how the quality of fruit has changed throughout the years ( Gary Fettker ? ) and he used the term ‘ confectionery on a tree’ to describe fruit and that has stuck with me.

    It is hard accepting that fruits are not part of our WOE and maybe I will be able to incorporate a bit more later down the line but the fructose element makes it a no no for now. I actually miss fruit much more than bread, cakes, biscuits etc which have absolutely no appeal for me now.

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    Wendy I know exactly where you are coming from! I love fruit but have limited myself to berries for the last three years, with the odd apple or tangerine thrown in in the last twelve months. It was JGwens’s post about the different effects of protein in various foods that reminded me of an article in this Sunday’s Mail health section. I’ve read about ‘confectionary of the tree’ as well and this article goes into the idea of today’s fruits being sweeter than they were years ago. I don’t have the article in front of me but the examples given don’t show a huge rise in fructose in modern day fruits.
    I would like to read some more. I guess it’s like most other ‘scientific’ hypotheses, for every advocate of a theory there are detractors, sometimes many! We have to make up our own minds at the end of the day and I think for me the odd apple or tangerine will make life far more enjoyable!
    I’ll report back when I’ve read JGwen’s article in full. Would be interested in your take on it as well, if you can plough through it!

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    Yes, keep me updated V ! Imagine the idea of a fruit fast !!! perhaps not 😉

  • posted by Kafin13
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    Hi all – my seven day egg fast is done too. Thanks team and groupies! Allie, your loss is amazing considering you’re at goal 💜. Birdy and Kazz, hope you’re pleased with your losses, very impressive to me since I think you both did four days? Curious to know if anyone has gained anything back during transition and if you did any kind of transition or just went back to your usual BSD?
    I think Elky and I must be in sync as I lost exactly the same , she has been wonderful to talk to daily – I know you’re all going to disagree with me but – all it did was take me right back to the same place that I’ve been stuck at since March, so I don’t really count it as a huge success since my goal was to break through that stall and didn’t happen, just got rid of what I gained over July 4th debacle. And no, my measurements didn’t change either, still the same as March (yes, I do find it very annoying and frustrating 😬). Apparently, you can still lose during transition but since my body has defied all the other claims, I’m setting the bar low. It does seem (from Facebook) that a lot of people use it to get back on track after vacations or binges as I think it can get you back into ketosis pretty quickly. So I may do it again for that reason – ideally I’d like to say that it wouldn’t happen but as yet, I still like bad carbs and don’t have a lot of faith in my ability to refuse when others are indulging…
    Wendy, I would be happy to do another one with you at some point!
    What I did learn was…
    1. Don’t use pre-shredded cheese, it’s covered in potato starch to stop it sticking together and therefore unnecessary carbs (I didn’t actually buy but thought this was interesting and worth sharing)
    2. I still like eggs and I particularly like the egg waffles with a bit of cream cheese – 1/2 oz goes a long way
    3. I missed my avocados and veggies but will be careful to ease back in
    4. I saved and dried my eggs shells – stay tuned for upcoming art…
    5. It was nice to have breakfast, lunch and dinner again after such a long time of TRE and really nice to feel full without feeling stuffed. I’m always a bit hungry on the 800
    6. I learnt that acid reflux/heartburn is caused by the sulfur in eggs reacting to too much sulfur in your own body and can be combated with half a teaspoon of baking soda in water. I usually only get this when eating crap food and honestly never experienced it before coming to the US.
    7. Albert doesn’t like eggs but enjoys a slice of deli turkey but not in his bowl, only dropped from a height one piece at a time, onto the floor. I am an enabler.
    8. I have lovely friends here who don’t push me and understand when I just can’t. Thank you.
    Birdy – sorry, I forgot to reply to the magnesium thing. I actually had a friend of my aunts staying several years ago who is a GP but practices progressive medicine and she took one look at me and said my face showed I was deficient in magnesium (which apparently a lot of us are). That’s not enough for the daughter of a scientist so I had bloodwork done and sure enough, she was right. Since then, I’ve taken it as a supplement, I use it mostly as it’s the only thing that keeps me regular (I have some IBS stuff and my Dad had ulcerative colitis so it’s something I keep on top of). In all the research I’ve done, I haven’t seen anything that says it’s dangerous and even an excess will most likely only lead to diarrhea. Also never heard that you need another thing to activate it so would be interested to read more if you can find it? I’m not a big believer in supplements as I like to think we can get what we need from food, sun etc but I also think humans have screwed the earth up a little so our food may not have all the nutrients it should have if we’ve messed with the soil. I know NZ soil is very low in selenium so a couple of brazil nuts a day is recommended. All very fascinating!!

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    Kafin, I do think we need to look at “results” differently….In fact, maybe try and ignore “results” completely. All JGwen has posted makes me think a week from week weigh in is probably not helpful. I feel “fatter” now than I did in Jan! Which does not make sense. I’ve gone from 18 to 12…That may be the same for you, getting back to March. We are probably very hard on ourselves. xx

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    Hi 6T – I find that if I don’t weigh in daily, I’ll just quit. I really need the accountability 😊. I don’t feel any fatter, I just feel and look exactly the same. My clothes fit the same, my shoe size is the same and I do pretty extensive measurements from the neck down and they have never changed so I know I haven’t lost anything. I’m keenly aware of my body fluctuations having monitored them from a child so I know that for me, it’s very obvious when I lose, just by looking in the mirror. I know that if I go down to around 300 cals a day, I’ll lose but I’m fighting not to do that because it’s just not sustainable and so unhealthy so I’ll keep on going but it’s discouraging. 🦄

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    Wendy there may just be good news on the ‘fruit’ front on it’s way!
    I’m part way through JGwen’s article, a bit heavy going and so many variables ….. BUT … fruit in moderation may be ok …. for some (with T2 that has been diagnosed <12 months). I’ve not finished the article yet , well I am on holiday after all!
    At the moment I feel that an occasional small apple won’t blow my blood sugars but I’ll reserve my judgement until I get to the end of the article. Have you read it?

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    Hi folks

    I know I “officially” closed out my Egg Fast experience the other day, but I want to pop back in to update my experience of transitioning off it, because there was another significant – to me – discard.

    First day of transitioning from the EF showed a further drop of 1.25kg (2.76lb), which has stayed off for the last two days. So that is a total discard from the EF of 2.7kg (5.95lb). For me, that is a phenomenally large amount, comparable to my very early days on this WOE.

    Equally fascinating to me (nerd alert!) is what my breathalyser has been doing during transition. It had been sitting around 0.8%.BAC (80 mg/100ml) for the last couple of days of EF. Once I moved into transition it went through the roof, sitting around 1.2%.BAC (120 mg/100ml) or 1.3%.BAC (130 mg/100ml). Seriously, I’ve never seen anything like it – I even changed the batteries in case it was playing up!

    I think this reinforces Kafin’s point that the EF is a good way to kick oneself relatively quickly and easily into ketosis after, shall we say, a period of less than judicious eating 😉 I will certainly do it again.

    But you have to remember I’m still not sick of eggs 😊 For people who were turning green at the very thought of them after about Day 4, the EF may simply not be worth it for the discard / ketosis potential.

    And I’m about to launch into my own little long planned period of non-judicious eating, so I don’t expect any further good news on either the discard or the ketosis front for a wee while. Ah well, easy come, easy go lol

    Cheers, Elky

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    Elky!! That’s phenomal!! Well done, you should be proud. Count me in for next eggs fast 🙂

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    Hello all, my time off for non-judicious behaviour has now come to a close and a wonderful time was had by one and all.

    I am not game to step on the scales and the breathalyser is shaking its head at me sadly and tutting. I expect the finger wagging to commence imminently.

    In order to avoid disappointing the household appliances even further, I’m jumping back on the Egg Fast bandwagon. Starting tomorrow (Saturday).

    Anyone else want to play along?

    I don’t expect most of those who did this with Kafin and me last time can yet face the thought of eggs again, and truth be told I’m wondering a little at my sanity. But let’s see how it goes 😌

    Yours eggcellently, Elky

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    Good luck Elky! I am keen to do one but not organised/ready yet. I hope you get forum friends to come and play along 🙂
    I’ll support you from the side lines.

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    Oh Elky! You are a little star in the heavens! This has worked spectacularly for you. Do you feel like our little
    guinea pig? I’ll be following you with keen interest 🙂 I can’t quite face all the “sulphurous” feedback yet! Kafin,
    sweetheart, are you giving it another round, too? Please let us know how you are feeling xxx

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    Hi Allie – honestly I don’t know what I’m doing, with anything 🙃. I’m there in spirit with Elky and back whatever she wants to do. I just haven’t decided yet on an egg fast repeat, to be honest it didn’t work for me and neither has Fast 800/BSD. You’ve all heard my rant before, following the principles to a T and no shift (other than up and down) on the scales, measurements or any of the clothes I reserve for determining any change. I’m just very disappointed and disillusioned, hating myself at this weight, feeling uncomfortable and so lost as to what to do next. I’m sick of researching, reading, watching videos, hoping for some tiny thing I’ve missed that will help. It’s all too much to deal with.
    Sorry for the lack of posting lately, some of you know why and I appreciate your messages even if I’m not able to be very responsive. I know you understand and given all the nastiness on the other thread, I’m thankful for my connections outside of the forum. Not sure I want to be a part of it anymore, it’s ugly and I hope it doesn’t drift over to this thread. I’m staying clear of the other. Xxx
    Ps. Thanks Kazz for the sleeping tip, I need a bit more than that but it sounds like it would smell so good and I appreciate you looking out for me 😊.

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    Hi guys. Elky, you are amazing to embrace eggs again so soon and in fact if I didn’t have a fridge full of greens, chicken, sea bass and rib eye, perversely I would be tempted to join you, because it was great not having to think too much about meal planning! I will deffo do it again fairly soon like week after next. It certainly suits you and you’ve had a fab result! Dead chuffed for you! 👏👏
    Kafin, I’ve caught up a bit today on the forums, aaah sorry, hadnt fully got the picture and I know you know that, lovely. I was wondering if, by following this WOE, it is enough to prevent any weight gaining side effects? That is pretty spectacular. But not what you want. On a positive, you’re taking great care of yourself. I think of my organs. I imagine them unencumbered by visceral fat and slithering in comfort, inside me. Bit weird I know! So when the scales don’t move and the inches don’t change, I just think of slithery organs and feel smug! We would be a surgeon’s joy! 😁😁👍👍 Ok, grasping but did I make you smile?
    😘😘

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    Oh Kazz, you did make me smile 😆 – I will endeavor to think of slithery organs and be content with that for the time being. I know you and Allie correspond regularly which means we already have a bond in addition to being fellow egg fasters (why does my phone always default it to “farters”) and I love how positive your posts are. I may join you when you do your next egg fast 🥚.
    Having just had a lovely WhatsApp chat with Wendy, I feel all glowy (is too a word!) xx

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    Hello all, just dropping by briefly to say EF2 is go as of breakfast this morning!

    Kazz if my fridge was full of sea bass and rib eye I wouldn’t do this again just now either, don’t you worry! I love your idea of slithery organs too, except it made me think of yummy things like pates and terrines. What’s that you say? That I’m hopeless 😉 Yes indeedy 😂

    Kafin, thank you for your support, I appreciate it. And you get all the credit for this anyway because you introduced me to it! 😊

    Happy to be the Guinea pig, Allie, and don’t worry you’ll definitely hear how it goes this time too – just hoping it strikes twice for me 🤞🤞 And this time it’s after non-judiciousness rather than before, which Kafin thinks might work even better. I need an emoji for crossing fingers and toes!

    Thanks for the support, Louise, I kind of jumped into this with no warning so no one else had time to get ready to play along with me. Im blaming my scolding household appliances 😂

    Have a grand day everyone, Elky

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    Hi Elky,
    As it happens I did pick up the ingredients for a couple of the dishes people talked about in the last round the other day. So I will be with you in spirit, but I am not going to fast during the school holidays. Its a busy time of year work wise, and I am weight training as well as making plans for hay making, so thats enough to take on at one go. – Maybe in September, or in winter when the nights close in and work calms down a little.

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    Hello all, just checking in to say that Day 2 of my EF is underway. Will post general chatter on another thread.

    JGwen, thank you for the support 😌 I understand completely why this is not a good time for you to play along! And don’t worry, there will always be more EF opportunities!!

    Cheers, Elky

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    Hi kafin!

    You might be experiencing “insulin resistance”. Here’s a YouTube video which explains how to fix it:

    Hope it helps!

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    Hi Ilovecatsanddogs – thanks for taking the time to read my woes and post 😊. I have long suspected I am insulin-resistant (as probably many of us are, hence why we are here and diving into Dr Fung and Gary Taubes’s research!) since I have been doing this since March and stuck at the same point. I know if I drop my calories significantly, I will lose in a heartbeat but I don’t want to go down that path again as it’s just not healthy and would be a waste of all the research I’ve done! I have seen this video before and am already following the principles he discusses. I do need to do more along the lines of intermittent fasting but I’ve been struggling with a severe depressive episode for over a year now and it has been too much to add and cope with. One day! Still, many insulin resistant people do lose without doing intermittent fasting – I do stick to 16/8 – so that can’t be the only cure for me!
    Like Elky said, I do love having JGwen following along with us and always so patient with our questions 😊💡
    I’m feeling a little FOMO so wondering if I might jump on the EF again with Wendy and Elky tomorrow…I’ve already made enough decisions for today so will leave that one for tomorrow 😆😁

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    I forgot to add something and I think Allie has asked this too – I haven’t found much supporting evidence for being able to reverse insulin resistance, more how to deal with it so I’m really curious to know if anyone has read anything? I personally feel that all my messed up dieting over the years has screwed with my metabolism to the point of causing the insulin resistance. So if I could mess with my metabolism in the first place, does it stand to reason that I could mess with it again in a positive way and correct it? I realize this goes beyond the scope of all things eggs but if anyone has answers, feel free to provide them using an egg analogy 😆🥚🥚🥚

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