Thank you for those explanations and hints re drinking water . . . I find that SO HARD to do . . . and keep a glass of water on the sink as a reminder to at least have a few mouthfuls . .. everytime I go to or by the kitchen for something/anything 🙂 Ive even add lemon or lime juice to it to make it more palatable 🙁 but its tough for me . . . always has been.

HI Everyone.At last I have a positive report.this morning Bgl is 4.7mmol.the best in ages.I did my first proper work out in the gym .Im working with an excersie physiologist and I actually felt good .On the down side ny weight is up to 84.1kg . Im trying a supplement called Forskolin its suposed to increase metabolism and act on stored fat.Im not convinced but Im giving it a try.I hope you are all focused on maximum effort during weekend temptations.Best wishes to you all Ko.Ko.

Thank you for sharing sunshine-girl . . . this communication has made me feel SO MUCH BETTER!!! Someone with the exact same story but with different readings!!! (The bathroom visits after starting one of the pills was so horrendous they will never be forgotten. Nor will the depression, constant crying, lack of appetite and wanting to hide/die with two others!!! only leaving insulin as the last resort.) – Since starting the 8 week “diet” which Im calling my new eating regime!!! Ive “discarded” good old fashioned rolled oats – couldnt believe the tests following that small change. No bread of course, ate little potato of any kind or pumpkin anyways – but no more . . . my home made pea and ham, chicken and vege soups – GONE! Why? The split peas and dry soup mix! AMAZINGLY HIGH READINGS AFTER THOSE!!!! And I always had that in the winter – make a batch, and then just heat and eat when desired. My Ryvita and Vitaweet biscuits . . .? (afternoon snack with vegemite or lunch some days with cheese and tomato/cold meat (whatever) – GONE. Unbelievable readings after them. They have no sugar and no fat! BUT NO GOOD TO ME!!! Finger prick readings still higher than “they” would like . . . but then consistently single digits after (2-3 weeks) is an unbelievable difference – and shows GREAT promise for me. It is just like magic. Sincere and grateful thank you’s to a few people who are responsible for opening doors and revealing possibility ideas.

Hi Squidge,

Thanks for that, it all sounds good to me…I get your thoughts on the fruit, and will see how it goes. I must say though that I’ve seemingly lost my desire for muesli and milk right now, it must be the spirit of Dr Mosley taking over…eggs are my go to choice right now!

I’ll certainly be making a batch up when I return from my holibobs though…my top tip for this diet is to have the things in the house/fridge that you can actually eat…for myself it makes the whole process much easier, less likely to falter!

Cheers,

Red

Thank you for all your words of encouragement!

I’m happy I’ve picked a date – I always seem to find deadlines useful.

How do you folks manage the cooking?? Do some of the meals lend themselves to batch cooking and freezing or is it best, if batch cooking to consume the remainder the next day?!

What a lovely bunch of people you are!

Thanks for your words of encouragement!

It’s probably sensible to delay starting properly if you know it will be particularly difficult over the next week.

Good luck.

Is it possible for you to transfer to another doctor, who’d be more helpful?

So glad I found this!! I’m on day 5 and on day 3 and 4 I had this awfully in the evening, it was like acid shooting out of me 😬 at least now I know it’s related to the diet, fingers crossed it’s gone!

Hi, I didn’t think I said you were afraid of fats. Your question asked where do you get that feeling of fullness and satisfaction that starchy carbs give you. My answer was fats. Not that you were afraid of them.

Yes but I dont use the KOKO I usually say keep on keeping on… dont forget the 3 full stops for emphasis.

I’m so sorry, YM2be! It’s an acronym coined and made famous by sunshine-girl. I means Keep On Keeping On!
🙂

Aww thanks Ellem it’s so helpful to hear about other people’s journeys. Enjoy the bike ride!
I am going to have to ask….what does KOKO mean??

Seriously MarxistFood, your practice is proposing to share your OH’s medical history with a commercial company? He’ll probably come home with a pen and a notepad and some metformin and insulin.
Actually it’s worse, your GP is treating your husband as a commodity.

Interface Clinical Services Helps GP Practice to Identify and Monitor High …
https://www.businesswire.com › home › I…
Marsh Medical Practice, a member of East Lincolnshire CCG, has added over 500 patients to their QOF clinical register”

The Quality and Outcomes Framework (QOF) is a voluntary annual reward and incentive programme for all GP surgeries in England

There is NO chance he won’t come home with a sackful of medication and your GP will be pocketing a bonus. That’s why he wouldn’t support him.

our Doctor actually waved his hand in dismissal and diabetic *specialist * nurse was still stuck in (incorrect) diet advice onward and downward so to speak thanks all

My GP was very supportive – it was the grouchy diabetic nurse who was extremely close-minded and negative; I just ignored her and stopped taking metformin; she got even grouchier when my blood sugar came down – the GP used to send congratulatory emails, but not a word of encouragement / “well done” or “that’s interesting” from the grouchy DN.
Hopefully she’s drowned in her metformin by now.

Tom1985, what a blessed event, the birth of your third child! Much happiness to you and your family. Enjoy
your holiday, but don’t go wild 🙂 Please join us on either the weekly or monthly challenge when you officially
“begin”. There are lots of experienced BSDers there, and you will be made to feel very welcome. See you then 🙂 🙂 🙂

Allie

Haha, Elle! It has been the new normal for me, for about 2 years now! Adjusting my carb levels was the way
out of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome…Ketosis is a miracle! How do we spread the word? One person at a time,
I think 🙂 Maybe we should start putting the message on bumper stickers? SOO HAPPY for you!!! KOKO….
See you on tues. weigh in!

Allie

Alliecat, that’s it, yes, a natural high. It happened to me about two weeks in, and I suddenly noticed this bubble of happy feelings inside. Will it wear off, or could this be the new normal?

Skinnytobe, impressive 40 secs! 👏🏽 Ah yes, I’ve not been paying much attention to form.

Yummymummy 2b – well done for sticking with it. We are all different, but I’ll tell you my experience of starting this, in case any of it resonates.
Week 1, D1&2, awful headaches – “ok so I expected these”
D3 feeling a bit better, “Oo good, that wasnt too bad then”
D4 utter exhaustion, – “oh no, what is wrong with me? I cant even hold the hairdryer up to dry my hair. I think I may be dying! Maybe this WOE doesn’t suit me!”
D5 – “ok so maybe I wasnt dying.”
Sometime in Week 2: “what is this weird feeling in my tummy? Oh I think it might be happiness, wow that feels ace!”
Somewhere in week 3: “ooo that’s odd,, I think I may feel like exercising!”
Week 4: Well, this is week 4, and my OH has just got the tandem out for a ride round the lake tomorrow. I’ve not been on it for a couple of years. Might need a cushion! We got a tandem a few years ago because he is tall and fit, and I am short and not fit, so at least this way I could keep up with him.

Elle

Congratulations Allie 🤗🤗
I’ve noticed you posting at 3am your time – just thought it was a bit of insomnia. I’m really sorry it’s more than that. If you do find the cure, I’ll buy it!
As for the heatwave, bring me rain. Still we don’t have the humidity like you, so grateful for small mercies.
Keep on fasting!!
Maggie

Hello!

I’ve picked a week on Monday as we’re away on holiday next week with the whole family and a birthday while we’re away!

I was hoping to use this week – as you say – to not go mad but I know we’ve got an alcohol and carb loaded week ahead!

I’m thinking of it as my last hurrah for 3 months – my 12 weeks would coincide roughly with my wife’s due date – so I think it’s a good aim!

We’ll see. My big love is popcorn and houmous – I can easily eat a whole lot myself!

Portion control is probably my biggest issue and has been since I started cooking for myself!

Looking forward to it!

Thanks for all your kind words!

Thanks for the explanation alliecat, I’ll keep persevering! Maybe there will be a nice surprise on the scales tomorrow!

Hi, positive family! I’m feeling very much in the positive lane today, for I’ve managed 2 days in a row of 18:6.
I’m always awake from 3:00am on, so the wait to “feed” til 2:00pm can be a rough ride, 11 hours! For some
inexplicable reason, I’ve slept til 8:00am the past 2 days, making it possible to only need to eat 2x per day.
If I ever figure out what makes the difference, I’m going to bottle and market it for everyone with a sleep
disorder 🙂
Have a magnificent weekend, everyone. I hope your heatwave breaks soon xx

Allie

I like your sense of humor, Tom1985! I don’t use an ipad or iphone, so I don’t have access to emoticons,
but imagine me displaying “clapping hands” for your decision to be a healthy Dad who is teaching your young
children healthy dietary habits! You haven’t explained your decision to postpone your start date to July 16, 10 days
into the future, but it’s never too early to begin cutting back on the refined carbs/sugar and getting into the
habit of drinking lots of water, even if you aren’t measuring and counting calories and carbs yet. It’s a good
strategy for minimizing the possibility of dealing with “carb flu”. We’re all looking forward to getting to know
you, and sharing in your journey. Very best to you,

Allie

Hellooooo Ellem,
Good to see you and what a good news about the rash disappearing. I hope you’re as good as new now. I’ve just about managed 40seconds of planking and it makes me feel very good. Next step for me will be to try it in front of the mirror to check my position is held correctly. I have also downloaded a squat app and so far am only looking at it 🤓.
I think once I complete the 30 day plank challenge I may also give that one a go.
All the best to you all
Skinny to be
xx

Thanks for the link Ellem, this is new to me so it is good to learn. Keto rash – I will be better informed now.

Lots of us have noticed this, Elle! It’s very much akin to a natural “high” 🙂 No food “contraband” can compete
with it, or at least that’s how I feel about it! It’s truly miraculous…Have a wonderful weekend!

Allie

Hello everyone, it is another glorious day here in the UK. As I mentioned in last weeks thread, I had a little blip last week, not in the eating, I stuck to that, but I got really itchy skin and a rash. I’m pretty certain it was keto rash, as it fitted the description perfectly. Thankfully mine was only very slight.I followed the advice I found, and am delighted to say it has cleared up & the abdominal itching has gone. I’m hoping it was a temporary issue, and have dropped my carbs back to around 20 again to see what happens. Link is here if it’s of interest to anyone. https://www.dietdoctor.com/keto-rash-people-itch-low-carb

I am back in my shorts again, and managed a 21 second plank today Skinnytobe 😄

I am loving this WOE, it makes me feel really happy. Has anyone else noticed that? It makes such a difference to my overall mood.

Goal for this week is to lose another 2lb, and maybe increase my plank to 22 seconds 😄

Have a great weekend everyone.

closer look at the invitation your appointment will be with ; Kunal Patel pharmacist from Interface Clinical Services the letter also right at the bottom says .. a service to medicine ,funded by Takeda uk ltd a pharmaceutical company

hubbie decided to go to hear what they offer/advise etc !!

Good luck to you too, Zinny! Think my earlier post crossed with yours!
Have a great weekend everyone!

Ha! You could say I don’t normally get away with anything!!
She’s really supportive. My sister is a PT and she has extolled the virtues of intermittent fasting for a good while.

The support is definitely in place – it’s up to me to smash it!

How do people feel about picking the start day so far in advance?!

Thanks for your lovely reply – I’ll aim to post updates when I start.

Allie, it’s the same everywhere. The problem is that the media are scared to cover it in case they lose advertising revenue – so where it is covered it’s given the slant of a ‘fad diet’.
Well, it is taking hold; we can buy carb free noodles, courgetti are quite usual and restaurants generally don’t use sauces on meat.
Yesterday Aseem Malhotra met Tom Watson, deputy leader of the opposition, who has lost 94lbs on the Pioppi diet which got some media coverage.
It’s a slow business, not helped by the refusal of GP’s to open their minds, but bit by bit it will happen.
Maggie

Me too, Maggie! I think that it is nothing short of tragic that our countries aren’t producing more new Doc’s
with a dedication to preventative medicine. Just think of the effect that would have on reducing costs for
insurance co.s as well as patients! That flies in the face of “profits” though, doesn’t it? I think the biggest
impediment in my country, and why our “food pyramid” is so out of date, is the influence of the grain lobbies
and sugar lobbies on our legislators. Absolutely a conflict of interest when these multi national firms contribute
to political campaigns. Rather obscene, when you think about it! Keep up the good fight, one case at a time.
We may be small in number, but we can have a BIG voice 🙂

It’s really encouraging to hear that you’re feeling better, YM2be! Our bodies are unique mechanisms, and I’m
certain that yours is in a state of confusion at the new manner of eating that you are asking of it 🙂 There have
been numerous posts on how we lose fat, but in the event that you haven’t come across one of these yet…
basically what is happening physiologically is that as we lose fat from our fat cells, the fat is replaced with
water. Eventually the fat cells collapse, and fat and water are released. This is known as the “whoosh effect”.
When it happens, the scales can show a loss of 2-3 lbs. overnight. Hormonal changes, as well as “transit
issues”can cause a slight gain too. You’re doing great, don’t worry…It all comes right in the end 🙂
Have a great weekend!

Allie

Hi Alibob. From one “Ali” to another, I’m over the moon for you! Your story is nothing short of inspiring, and
you’ve given us all a gift in visiting us to share what you have achieved. You’ll be happy to know that california
girl and I are a 2 woman tag team, and we are relentless in recommending Taubes book to every new member
that we can catch up with 🙂 I hope that you will continue to check in periodically, for I know that you have
much wisdom to share. The last sentence of your post certainly resonates with me. The specifics of this
WOE is something that we discover by trial and error, but we are all so fortunate to have a community
where wisdom and knowledge prevail in helping us to find what is successful for us, not only for reversing
BGL problems and weight loss, but the greater “prize”, maintaining it! Thank you for posting today. I
am truly overjoyed for you….Much happiness 🙂 🙂 🙂

Allie

Thank you for all the tips everyone, so much help & inspiration on these lovely forums. I’ve never heard of that version of Becks, Harry, definitely look out for it as I like Becks. I’m not sure how well I’m doing sticking to 800 calories. I’ve got My Fitness Pal but I don’t weigh things so my portions are probably out. My kitchen scales are ancient things, they’ve never heard of grams, happen I’d better invest in a new set. I bought a new set of bathroom scales last week as I was sure my old ones were broken as they never shifted day to day, but the new ones showed the same 🙁
Tesco do good individual pots of their own brand full fat Greek yoghurt, only £1 a pack of four, they come in blue & white packaging. There’s a low fat version as well, same price, paler blue pack. It’s easier than guessing amounts out of a big tub.
Gosh it’s hotter than ever! Doesn’t help that I’m high up very near the moorland fire that’s raging just up the lane. Not used to this tropical weather, it’s always windy but weirdly it’s a warm wind! Usually you can tell which season it is by whether the constant horizontal rain is warm or freezing.

Allie, I’m absolutely shocked that any GP would subject a patient to the skilled sales tactics of Pharma. I’d change my GP as it’s clear as day that money is the driving force.
Maggie

Afternoon all! Feeling less tired and achy today thank goodness. Weighed myself this morning though and had somehow managed to put on a lb! Despite being under 800 cals yesterday. Bit confusing but I’m blaming it on the scales, and assuming it’s just a blip! 😂

Oh Alibobs! This is wonderful news! Thank you so much for coming back and posting your update! It will help so many others who are just starting.
Wow, your loss is fantastic! You must feel on top of the world. You rocked this!
And yes, the “Why We Get Fat” book by Taubes literally saved my life — Allie and I never stop recommending it here on the forums. I share your righteous anger that the guidelines promulgated by my own government are not the healthiest way to eat — it is unbelievable that they are so off base but I think are pressured and dictated by big corporate interests and money.
I also worry sometimes that they also aren’t sure how we would feed the world if we started to recommend another way of eating.
Anyway, huge congratulations on your success. Please keep posting when you can! Your success is a beacon of hope to the people just starting or struggling.

Marxistfood and Maggie…I know very little about the NHS, but it’s disturbing to hear that anyone is being
pressured by an alliance with big pharma and GP’s. There is a link on “Take A Look at This” thread that
might be a useful podcast to search for, Marxistfood. Knowledge is power, and all that!

Allie

Marvellous, we’ve got Zinny with us too 🙂
Let’s see what the weekend brings and mostly what’s the number on the scales comes Tuesday morning.
Until then I’ll see you when I’ll see you 🙂
All my love and have a wonderful weekend.
Skinny to be
xx

Hi Tom, you lucky man, not only 2 lovely little uns but a GP for a wife. I hope she is supportive of this diet and is helping you with any questions. You will get lots of support on here so if you need anything just shout up. Good luck. By the way, you are only 33 so I hate you already. Jealousy.

Cattie, he is so lucky to have you. Tell him to keep away from the sundried tomatoes as they are packed high in calories – someone posted they had a binge on them and didn’t realise. Good luck.

Best of luck to you ladies, on your private challenge 🙂 Have fun! But back to the business of this one….How
is everyone feeling as we head towards the weekend? S-G, I’m glad that you found a replacement canvas for
your gazebo! I thought it might be difficult this time of year. That storm must have packed gale force winds!
Your pool must have been loaded with debris. I hope it’s usable by now 🙂

There are far too many new members to call by name, but I’m thinking about you all, so pop in when you can.
Good news inspires us, and slip ups teach us. We are one big inclusive family here, and everyone is welcome.

Have a marvelous weekend! I’m going to be mindful of “wine creep” 🙂

Allie

Thanks Sunshine and Kazz!

I am with you guys!!!! Tuesday it is!!!

I’ve been out at lunchtime and got some more peppers, carrots and celery I will cut some up and put them in a plastic container in the fridge – yes you are right, the fridge is always the first port of call if something happens, like other people reach for a cigarette I suppose. I’m very lucky I don’t have an emotional attachment to food, he knows I’m stressed because I chew the inside of my lip! I just need to be one step ahead with my preparation I suppose, I probably should let him do it himself but I know he wouldn’t weigh stuff and like I say I don’t want to nag! it is lucky he has always eaten healthily (he has a Mediterranean mother) but portion control has been the issue
he does have pretty good control, he had his six monthly blood test recently and we are waiting to see what that says, we hope it might open up dialogue with the gp surgery again if it is good I would love to have support from them as well but it is nice to talk (virtually) to people understand

Skinny and Violinist – good luck to you both with your 150lb chase down!
Very true, S-G. Allie and I are firm friends these days and we skype regularly. We will meet one day, that’s our goal! My life is all the richer for meeting Allie and everyone here on these forums. 🙂 And all because I stumbled upon this BSD site last August when looking for answers to my “IBS” symptoms, lethargy, very low mood, drained and lifeless and desperate! 🙂
Kazzeexx

Thanks for the info cattie. It seems he is getting good control and it is important he continues on this path. As for the treats, I think jam is out of the question. Sounds like he eats for reasons of stress but maybe also the habit of turning to the fridge in the evening and his treats might be something he wouldn’t normally turn to. That is the point of a diet, to change of daily eating habits for the better. Remember a treat is just that, something you have now and then to stop you from feeling deprived, have some delicious BDS friendly nibbles available in portion sizes, like a 1oz cube of cheese – but he can only have one now and then, not go back to the fridge 10 minutes later for another piece. What about a bowl of fresh or defrosted frozen berries, vegetable sticks like carrots already prepared. Talking of nagging mothers, my grandchildren wont think to eat fruit or veg but if I cut it up and put it in front of them they do.

Hi I will give it a go, I will weigh in on Tuesday too, it would be grand to be 150 lb by September! Good Luck to us all!

Afternoon all,
I’ve just finished the book for the second time.
I’ve decided to take the plunge and try it out!
I’m 33, 6FT and weigh 117kg (18st10) – my BMI is around 35 – so QUITE scary really! I used to have quite an active job – but I’ve recently moved jobs and as such – my lack of movement is also quite scary!

I’ve got two young children and another one the way – and I really need to get healthy to set a good example and make sure I’m around!

My wife is a GP and is very supportive of me trying this out – it’s clear that the opinions of healthcare professionals are changing….
I’m not diabetic in any way – not pre-diabetic either, but i do have a rather large midriff which definitely sets alarm bells ringing.

I lost about 6 stone 10 years ago – reaching 13st8 – a combination of eating lots of chicken and rice, salmon and cous cous and veggies – but I was doing 2hrs in the gym 6 days a week – not sustainable. I ran a 10k in under an hour 2 years ago and I’d love to be able to get back to that level of fitness.

I like the idea of limiting my chances of developing diabetes and other related illnesses before I have a limited ability to do anything about it!

Anyway – if anybody fancies joining me – let me know!

Take care,

Tom