Hi FoFi,
Before I say anything, I must point out that I don’t have children of my own so I would never begin to presume the challenges people face in bringing up their children. That said, for a long time I have wondered why there seems to be one rule for adults and another for children. I mean, why are we (the forum users) all happy to accept that cakes, biscuits, etc are all off limits to us as adults but we still want to feed them to our kids? Would we not be doing them a much bigger favour to encourage them to eat the same way we do? After all, they are going to be adults one day and if we don’t change their habits, they are going to end up with the same issues as us. Having been a WW member for years, I never understood ‘the kid’s cupboard’. Why were their parents actively wanting them to eat all the stuff that had landed themselves in such a mess?

Fofi, you mention about children’s yoghurts; all that is is marketing. There is nothing in the yoghurt meant for children and not adults, other than the pretty pictures on the side of the carton. Children will do as well as us to eat full fat yoghurt (from a boring carton).

The diet doctor website does have some suggestions for making children’s diet low carb and I think there are guidelines around amounts (of course their bodies are growing whereas our bodies are only growing out). There are also some very good recipes on there for low carb breads and tasty snacks for lunch boxes, etc. One of the breads is called Oopsi bread.

As I said, I worry that I am on shaky ground here, not being a parent, but surely it makes sense to start the next generation off early in terms of looking at food differently. I know the post above is looking for low sugar versions of biscuits and ice cream and stuff but as Fofi says, they aren’t really out there. I suspect that is because there are not many naturally sweet things that have any real benefits to humans or at least don’t harm us. For our kids’ sake, we need to educate them away from such sweet teeth in the same way we are doing that for ourselves.

Hi Proodles

Welcome to the family.

I’m looking forward to reading about your progress.

Lynne

Hi,
This is the last week of the 8 week plan for me and I now have a lots of decisions to be made before next week starts.
My starting BMI was 33 and my main target was to get it under 30 in 8 weeks, so I was no longer classified as obese. My blood sugars were getting close to prediabetic, and I wanted them to reduce. I reached the blood sugar drop within 3 weeks to low 5’s and the BMI to 29.9 10 days ago. Today it was 29. Next major goal is BMI under 25. I was about to say that means I have another 20kg to go – and checked my spreadsheet – I have 12kg to go – I need to get used to the idea that I am no longer over 20kg overweight :-).
I have 2 options – go straight onto the 5:2, which was the plan. I had assumed this would be much more of a struggle that it has been and I would be ready to move by now. Second option is to continue the 800 until my holiday in the first week in May – Orkney, full bed and board, so it will be interesting to see how I manage through that. I had not thought it was advisable to do more that 8 weeks, but a few others seem to have been following that approach successfully so 3 weeks more should not be an issue.
I am walking the Shine Night Walk (Marathon) in London in September for Cancer Research UK. My sister-in-law died of cancer in January and I am doing it in her memory. This was an added driver to get the weight off! I did do the half marathon walk 2 years ago at my old weight off of 3 weeks training and did it in 4 hours continuous walking – I could not have taken a step more – so I knew I had to get this weight loss moving fast or I would fail and probably damage my knees in the process! Link below if anyone interested in joining up! http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/support-us/find-an-event/charity-walks/shine-night-walk
Training starts after my holiday – lots of long walks at the weekend and jogging at least twice a week. With that energy output, I think I will definitely need to be on the 5:2 by then.
Anyone else actually made the move from one to the other and how did it go?

I like the pink grapefruit as they’re a bit sweeter – not sure if that means we shouldn’t have them though?

Hi chezza.

Welcome to the family.

Look forward to seeing you on the other thread.

Hi Chezza and Madmre. I’m on day 3 too.

Madmare. Like you I have lots of clothes which don’t fit … yet!

Chezza, we don’t do Easter and for once I’m pleased about that. I’d find it hard to resist if there was lots of chocolate about. Avoiding it as much as possible sounds like a plan. Can you ask the family to keep it out of your sight?

Haven’t weighed myself yet. Think I will tomorrow.

“Can’t believe it’s this easy and nobody told me before”
This is the problem, no one is going to tell you because the food firms, the diet firms, and the drugs firms have all invested massively in high carb low fat meals which cause the disease and then it has to be fixed chemically
I’m afraid we live in a world where the £ is vastly more important than the lb

My experience of it was the same but the diahorrea was awful as well.
Interestingly enough I had blood tests a couple of years ago from a locum nurse who forcefully insisted that I take the metformin within 20 mins either side of food !
But, they are slow release I stammered in surprise.
Still works better my way was the response.
It took me a while to realise she was talking rubbish.

If you’re not hungry, then it’s habit making you eat. Apparently it takes 21 days to break or make habits. You’ve proved to yourself you can do it for one week – that means you can do it for another week. After a while it should get easier.

Hi Bill1954,
Thanks for the welcome.
This is the first forum I’ve ever joined. I’ve been haunting the forums for a couple of weeks. Congrats to everyone on here. Your posts have really inspired me to see this through.
Also planning to ever so subtly (and sneakily) lower the carbs in the foods I feed my family. T2 is rampant amongst my siblings & I want to make sure the next generation doesn’t pick up our bad habits.

Day 32 weight 10st 7lbs (a lb back on, but still 9lbs less than start)
Blood sugar 10.8

I have been a bit naughty the last few days, I replaced “good” calories with some “naughty” ones. I had a packet of space raiders 63calories and I had one diabetic chocolate 45 calories. Back on the straight and narrow today. I bought some brown rice and bulgur wheat today. I plan to use the brown rice sparingly now and again. I found some gram flour but didn’t buy it because it wasn’t on my OK list, but I found that it is OK to get, so I’ll get it next time. Found quinoa but it was more than twice the price of bulgur so didn’t bother.
A few of the supermarkets are putting offers on veg which is great for me. 🙆
Had a strange shopping basket if anyone was looking – fresh veg, healthy grains etc and 6 bags of boiled sweets (for my Oldie 👴).😊

I’m relieved that I’m not the only one on slow release Metformin, I asked my doctor for it not long after diagnosis because the wind I generated from the regular stuff would have powered a small town, and the smell was unbelievable. 😅

Hi All,
I have also been haunting the forums for a couple of weeks (thanks to NewLife for getting the delurking under way).
I have just finished week 3 and have lost 6kg (around 13 lbs) so far.
I was healthy weight when I started having kids, but 4 GDM pregnancies in 6 years piled on the kgs and I was diagnosed T2 12months ago. Put straight on meds which made me seriously ill. Went off meds & have simply not been back to the doctor since. Always thought losing weight was the solution, but had only lost 2kg in the last year despite feeling starved and deprived the whole time.
Can’t believe it’s this easy and nobody told me before.
Haven’t felt hungry and no cravings that a glass of water hasn’t fixed. Tried a piece of 85%choc. last night for dinner & for the first time on the diet felt sick to my stomach, so no Easter Eggs for me. For once in my life I don’t even care if I can’t have what everyone else is having.
Fantastic Feeling!

I didn’t know we could have muesli, Judy! What’s in the one you’re eating?

Cherrianne, you’re right about being new to feeling hungry. Definitely something I’m not used to. Used to eat just because it was a meal time, or I was offered a snack, or passed a cake shop … Day 3 today and I’ve already turned down biscuits, chips, chocolate and wine! I’m just telling myself I can’t have them, as though I was allergic, and it’s not been hard.

Karra, if you like yoghurt, get some of that. You can have a small amount of fruit in it as a breakfast, so needn’t miss out on one of your favourites.

Chick peas are great. I hadn’t tried them before. They’re quite filling and feel as though you’re eating carbs. After the 8 weeks, I might switch to them instead of rice.

Hi CurlyGirl
Isn’t it amazing how the habits of a lifetime can be turned around in just a few days ?
I’m over the moon with my results but the most extraordinary thing for me is not just the lack of cravings, it’s the fact that I don’t fancy any of my old food at all. I would have killed for chips and chocolate not too long ago, now I get put off just at the site of them.
Welcome to the forums and don’t forget to let us all know how you get on.

Hello lovely people, I empathise with ‘slipping off’, my husband gets invited to lots of very formal functions, the food is delicious & the wine even more so……… I decided to take a photo of myself, naked, in all my tubby glory, I made sure my stomach was emphasised in the most unflattering way possible. When I am tempted I take a look at that photo & tell myself there’s still a way to go…….

Today is cauliflower soup day because we went out last night & I wasn’t very good as far as the wine was concerned….. So I am being very restrictive for the next 48 hours, that will teach me. I am still losing weight, and am at my ‘thinnest’ in over a decade, but don’t want slip-ups to feature too regularly as there’s only so much soup I can drink!

I am determined to prove to myself that I can do this and that it will need to become a way of life, I’m not into sweet things so much, it’s carbs in savoury food that are my hurdle and those in wine, so I am revisiting all my cooking habits and am learning about ‘new’ foods like coconut & gram flour.

Good luck ONAMISSION, where there’s a will, there’s a way.

Hi everyone. I’m just going to be starting on this blood sugar diet today. Am off to the supermarket to get some healthy food. Any tips on what I should buy, as I am such a fussy eater, love pasta, and white rice and really really love fruit. Fruit is probably my biggest downfall, but don’t know what else to buy other than salad stuff or vegetables. Any suggestions would be most helpful.

NewLife, yes we sound awfully alike don’t we??!? Strangely I’m okay with chocolate if it’s unwrapped but I can eat any amount once it’s open, I think my record (and I’m not proud of this) is 6 cream eggs in about 5 minutes. It’s best if I just stay away completely.

As an aside I weighed myself this morning as that’s officially the end of week one and it’s 10 lbs down and my (fat) clothes feel a bit less snug. I’ve been hungry on occasions but nothing I couldn’t handle and I haven’t been scrupulously counting calories either just being very careful. Here’s hoping I stick at it.

Been reading some of the other blogs and realize I am probably drinking too much milk. I like my coffee and have large cups at frequent intervals with alot of milk.
Drinking fruit teas today – lets see what happens1

Hi FoFi,
I can relate so much to seeing people with ‘nicer’food. Every time I am at an event with buffett style food I end up with ‘plate envy’ when I see what others at my table are eating. This is despite the fact that there’s still plenty of every thing left for me if I want it!
Luckily for me something seemed to click about 3 days in to this plan and I can now prepare meals & even desserts for my hubbie & kids, then happily sit down with my bowl of salad or yoghurt. I decided to look at my Type 2 as an allergy to refined carbs. That helped me to stop blaming myself and just accept it.
Only thing causing me cravings were the diet sodas I was ‘treating’ myself with. Have since cut them out too.
Not hungry and no longer craving. Haven’t felt that way in years.

Hahhaha…Judynocakes…I like that..thanks Bill:)

Hi,
I am about to make vegetable stock, something I have not done for years – but I do remember that it tasted a whole lot better than the bought varieties.
Like any stock, it involves long, slow cooking (slightly less in the pressure cooker) and at the end, sieving the fluid off and discarding the rest.
The discard is mainly the fibre in the veg that you added. The vitamins etc are in the stock. However – where are the carbs, fats and sugars???? I would expect some to be in the discard, but not all? Any thoughts or experience in the group? The other option is to count everything that went into it as part of the stock – it will make probably double the calories of the soups … but maybe that is correct!

NB – I am not look at using it on the 800 diet, but on the 5:2 for the ‘5’ days.

You only have to read these forums to see how well it does work!!

Call me a sceptic if you like folks but I’m with Bill on this one. Too similar to the previous poster advocating the same book. You have to wonder about the motives in knocking something you’ve never tried, but which is backed up by sound research from different well respected sources.

Good start Judy
By the end of 8 weeks we’ll be calling you Judynocakes 😉

Hi everyone else that took the time to post:).. I appreciate all the great advise and kind words of encouragement. I will check in each day to see how you are doing! Thanks again
Jude

Hi Wig!
So nice we are starting together…we can be diet buddies! Well got through the first day…but did have a few cracker (soda) in the evening. I am not upset about it, it is an amazing change for me as I usually snacked continually at night. Had the Muesli this morning, quite tasty. Have you weighed yourself today? I weighed myself, but need to take the picture and measure. So excited to be on this journey to good health!
Jude

HI, I mainly eat plain salad( celery, red pepper, cucumber and tomatoes) with an individual pot (40g) of houmous. Today, I have just had an individual pot of greek yoghurt with a courgette muffin (from the freezer). I did like the beetroot falafel with greek yoghurt but it was a lot of effort to make; I have since found them in a supermarket (and also spinach falafels).

Thank you all for these ideas, they sound great. Will definitely give them all a go!!

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/over-the-8-week-line-and-after/

Take a look at that thread chezza
Won’t be long before you are in there 😀

As it happens I had a pork chop cooked in tinned chopped tomatoes and garlic with butterbean mash for dinner last hight and very nice it was too.
You could substitute pork for most of the recipes that contain meat. remembering that the pork will probably have a higher calorie count per gram than chicken, but if you work that into your daily allowance you should be ok.

Hi Lizzy. We (husband and I!) are also on day 2! Recipes we have tried from the book are chicken, butterbean and walnut salad (delicious) and the chickpea and hazlenut salad (also lovely but I must say I missed the ‘meat’!). I thought afterwards that these would be two recipes I could take for a lunch when I am going out. The avocado options are also good. And the no-carb ploughman’s we will try tomorrow. Hope that helps!

Apologies from me too if you are genuine but saying as you used not only the same arguments, but almost the same words as a previous troll I think it was highly unlikely.
Not promoting the sort of food you mention and are happy to eat is down to insulin resistance, the stuff spikes our sugar levels – you should know that.
That still doesn’t explain why a 72 year old T2D who is apparently happy with his “healthy” lifestyle, should feel the need to search out and post on a support forum with the express intention of trying to stop people from using a diet that we all know works and get them to adopt another method. Perhaps I’m wrong and you have a blog that extolls the virtues of your preferred method, after all, your very presence here shows you must care about it. If so can we have a link ?
Personally I don’t believe a word of it. I’ll leave it to the rest of the forum to make their own decisions.

Thanks everyone its great to get such wonderful support
Going to a friends house for dinner on Good Friday and Easter sunday is a big family get together for lunch. Just need to be prepared and think ahead – already thinking of taking my own starter of hummus and veg on Friday

Hi
Has anybody got any pork recipes instead of chicken. I dont eat a lot of meat and dont eat chicken. I expect that any chicken recipes could have pork fillet as a substitue but I just wondered if anybody had an recipe ideas.
Thanks

Hi All

Has anybody completed the BSD and if so what were the results so far as weight loss and blood readings are concerned.
Im really interested as everybody is different.

Hi Lizzy, If you have a good food thermos, then I suggest soups. I make a veg soup – 1l stock, 2 onions, 2 leeks, 3 carrots, 1 clove garlic, tsp cumin seeds, tsp, mustard seeds, 2 tsp curry powder and that is about 120-140 cals (depending on sizes of veg) – but very filling (from Newcastle website). 10 mins in pressure cooker or 20-30 normal cooking then blitz with hand blender. It make 3 portions – one for the day and 2 for the freezer. In your case I would probably add a tin of cannellini beans to bulk up and add protein. If you have that 3-4 hours into the shift plus a hardboiled egg (or feta cheese) and a tomato, cucumber and spring onion salad – that as a lunch keeps me going for a good few hours. If there is a microwave, I would be tempted to take another soup for later in the day as well – they are easy to carry, few mins to heat in microwave or 20-30 mins depending on microwave strength to defrost. I am veggie so this option works well for me – I am sure others will chip in with other ideas.

Happyslappy
You and I were clearly writing our posts at the same time as yours was not there when I was composing mine. Thank you for taking the time to come back to us with some background as to why you made the statements you did.

The fact remains that the majority of the people using this forum are achieving very positive results. Perhaps the book you mentioned has something to add to our knowledge base, I don’t know but we are always glad to look at adding to our knowledge here. You do not have to knock the work Dr Mosley is doing though.

Hi Lizzy

Try making the egg muffins and take them with salad and fruit – keeping within your daily limits. Also the indulgent prawn salad recipe I posted is great for a packed lunch. I have had Ryvita with Cottage Cheese or with laughing cow light cheese triangles. One Rivita is only .5 g of carbs and the seeded ones are lovely. You could get away with 3 Ryvia if youre really hungry. AGain with salad. Hard Boiled eggs and salad or on the days you can get to a microwave the cream of mushroom soup if you want something hot with a Ryvita crumbled into it. Again keep count of your carbs and you should be fine. Im on day 3 for the secone attempt. Weighed myself this morning the scales say 5lb loss!!! Given youre a nurse and run off your feet each shift hopefully all this will fit in.

Good luck

Hi Madmare and Chezza,
You two are off to a great start! The first days are the worst but you soon get through it. There are lots of us here willing to support and advise if you find yourself needing a boost.
Why not take advantage of the long weekend to pack up a picnic and go for a long walk somewhere nice? Get away from the choccy temptations and out into the fresh air. You’ll be getting exercise and escaping the madness at the same time. Even the local park would do if you can’t face the holiday traffic.
What about a trip to the local garden centre to plan for a new vegie garden if you have room for one? It will come in handy in your new healthy life.
Either way, make the most of your time off and have some fun. All the best for your success, will be looking out for your progress reports 🙂

Hi Lizzy – how about a big serving of salad with cottage cheese/hardboiled eggs/mackerel fillets/chicken breast?

Full-fat yoghurt with berries, apple, seeds.

I’m sure others will be along soon with more ideas 🙂

I’m on day 34 (I think) but really I have stopped counting because this way of eating and living is so easy. The first week was a bit of a challenge with the usual withdrawal symptoms but from then on, I can honestly say this is the best thing I have ever done for myself.

You will find various approaches on the forums; some stick to 800 cals, some count carbs anywhere between 20g and 50g a day, some do shakes, others do real food. My personal choice is the 16/8 where I don’t eat for 16 hours of the day (which includes 9 hours of sleeping of course) and I have my 50g of carbs in the other 8 hours.

You will discover what works best for you as you go on. Golden rules though; keep carbs low, keep fats high (low fat products are to be banished!), keep fluid intake high, use the forums, be happy.

All the best to you.

Thanks to Rozydozy for the link in another thread.

I wouldn’t normally waste my breath on no-marks like ‘happyslappy’ but the timing is just so perfect I couldn’t resist. I know that person doesn’t want to have an actual debate with us but its not just Dr Mosley as this quote taken from an article yesterday shows;
The study, published today in Diabetes Care, is the latest research from world-renowned Professor Roy Taylor, Professor of Medicine and Metabolism at Newcastle University, who also works within Newcastle Hospitals.

The research is part of a growing body of evidence showing that people with Type 2 diabetes who successfully lose weight can reverse their condition because fat is removed from their pancreas, returning insulin production to normal.

In yer face happyslappy!

Hi Madmare

I too am on day 3. I checked my weight this morning – 5lb off !!!! I checked 3 times. No headaches thankfully and not hungry either. Not sleeping very well though. Try the cream of mushroom soup its lovely and really filling. Also the egg muffins. Im not looking forward to the weekend either – if I have to I’ll stay in bed any housework can wait until next week!!

Good luck to you and Bill1954

Hi hashimoto,Sharon, captainlynne bill1954 and others
I am not a medical professional not someone with an agenda
The reality is that even Prof Taylor cannot deny the facts that there is “no cure “for diabetes
I’m just an ordinary 72 year old who contracted diabetes in 2001 ,primarily as a result of bad lifestyle. Over indulgence in many parts of my life
I suffered severe depression for 2/3 years as I didn’t know how to deal with as my wife was type 1
I “starved” to keep my blood sugars in check as is being proposed in this diet
My GP (a friend as well as a doctor) , gave me, yes gave me the GL diet book by Nigel Denby and I haven’t looked back and I have not tested either blood or urine
My concern is that Dr Moseley on the Steve Wright show some 9 months ago said that having been warned by his doctor that he was diabetic, so he created the 5and 2 and he’d cured himself of diabetes. No he’s controlling it by way of diet or eating healthily as I do using the GL as a guide (not a bible)
Now the diet to beat all diets is the “blood sugar diet” . All I’m saying is that after some 5 books on the subject over as many years, they can’t all be best
So my question to Dr Moseley is, if I have followed the plan to eat healthily but not starving nor dyning myself of some of the joys of life (wine pasta rice dining out etc) then why not promote normal healthy eating. Its like the “sugar thing” , I have not taken sugar, salt in my food other than the addition in restaurants by the chefs, and I have drunk black sugarless coffee for 50 years. Yet I still contracted diabetes and will have it until I die
No blood sugar diet will reverse that TRUTH
So all I say to people just read the GL ,not the GI book and see for yourselves
I wis you all every success in what you are trying to achieve and I leave you with the quote that helped along the way , Henry James ” you never know what you can’t do until you try”

Just to add, I buy grapefruit on every shopping trip and try to keep it around 2 weeks in the fruit bowl before I eat it. They are never too tart then.

Thanks all.

Good to hear. Gladly not on any medication and not diabetic (though I was on the road to it) and hoping to swerve it with this diet.

loving this forum.

x

I’m glad your thicker blouse tucks in too Lucia, it gives you a spur on doesn’t it! I used to find that bending my leg up to cut my toenails was a bit tricky, some of that was because the tummy was in the way – also the boobs. The boobs were easily sorted, well £6k later! I hope you had fun on your washing machine!

I’m feeling a bit spaced out this morning. I had my follow up minor surgery at 7.15 last night. I guess a benefit for my surgeon is that she was able to use my flatter tum to put her instruments on LOL. I had smoked haddock with a poached egg for breakfast but am not especially hungry today and had to make myself have it.

Cant use my vibration plate for a bit nor swim for 2 weeks til the new wounds heal. so, i’ll have to stick to walking for a while.

Aha
I may not have been listening correctly at the time as I was being prescribed statins at that time so that would explain it.
The statins got consigned to the bin ages ago and I have managed the cholesterol ok without them
Methinks a couple of luscious grapefruit will be in the shopping basket this week
Thanks for explaining it.