Good morning ladies,
What a sad thing England losing to Croatia but Croatia earned their victory. It was nerve wrecking and I really realised how easy stress (oh yes, that football made me stressed, not that really care for ⚽️ in general, only big competitions when I watch) can blow all the good intentions. I had two 90% Lindt chocs that, I think it was Verano, was recommended. It made realised, now that I’m more food focused, how easy it was for me to reach for something. And not just something and that’s it, but repeatedly. I hope the experience will equip me better how to deal with the situations in the near and distant future.

How are you all doing, girls?

Wendy, I started researching raspberry plants and it may happen I’ll have one planted in the corner of my garden for the little one. Now just to make the decision which type. Thank you

Here’s to a good day ahead and hopefully a better one than yesterday

All the best
Skinny to be
xx

Good luck sueblue, hope this morning goes well and you get back into the routine of it easily.
last night I actually dreamt I ate a large, gorgeous, iced cupcake with a packet of party ring biscuits…felt relieved when I woke up and realised i hadn’t actually..it had felt so real…the icing was so thick and swirly I could stick the party ring biscuits into it to give some crunch. Clearly I have a way to go before carbs and sugar lose their grip on me, but I hope with more time the desire will reduce…but I think I’m so severely addicted each day will be a challenge…I’ve never eaten anything and thought “that’s too sweet ” like my friends and family have.
Anyway wishing you all success and positivity for today…let’s KOKO!

Well done Squidge! You can look forward to some serious shopping! I am really pleased that after only 6 weeks of cutting out sugar and simple carbs I have shed 1 stone. Also no sugar cravings, feeling that I could eat everything in sight. Call it vanity, but actually I am enjoying the comments, was never seriously overweight but felt frumpy, actually looking forward to my health check!

Thanks JGwen! I’ll need to sit down properly one evening and go through some of the links on here xx

Allie – Croatia beat us 2-1 in extra time. We were 1-0 ahead from 10 minutes in. We’re out. BUT we did SO SO well! And although it’s disappointing, we got to the semi finals and behaved and played with respect and so, that team managed to restore faith and hope to a nation! 🙂

Who won the semi-finals tonight, skinny?

Hi everyone, I’ve decided to join in th challenge once again. I went completely off track during the last one and GAINED almost 2kg instead of losing 2kg as I had wanted! My own fault – I thought being on leave from work would make sticking to BSD easier but it was the opposite unfortunately. Then last week I realised it was halfway through the year – meaning I now only have 6 months if I want to keep to my personal challenge of losing 18kg in 2018. I just haven’t been able to get back into the groove so to speak since Christmas, and my weight has repeatedly gone up and down by the same few kilos.
So line in the sand moment for me! My challenge for the next 4 weeks is to go back to basics and get back on plan, and hopefully reverse my recent gain. I’m going to try 16:8 this week, so no breakfast for me this morning, just a cup of tea. I just hope my stomach doesn’t start growling when I’m in meetings this morning!

Pass me a CAAAAAKKKKEEEEE
thank God I don’t have any but it wouldn’t be safe after the English defeat in Russia losing to Croatia.
⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️

I’m worried the football semi-finals will blow my BSD diet tonight. What a stress and drama!

I don’t do football either, only world cup and am very much liking how far have England gone. They deserve to go all the way but at the moment…it’s a heart stopping situation after another… penalties still a possibility. As I said it may blow my diet.
It just shows how stress affects us… but I cannot stop watching now.
Are your pugs having rehearsals of Snow Lake too? 😄xx

…style and family values. Very likeable 😉

Well it’s nice to see a guy with style .😎

Not often, just to international. Not a football fan I’m afraid: England inevitably disappoint. I’ll invest my energies in something more likely to succeed like teaching the pugs ballet,🐶🐶
Maggie

Krysia, thank you too, for detailing your 2 month intermittent fasting journey. It gives me confidence
that I can continue with it too. It’s only taken me 2 years to attempt it! I’m usually awake by 3:00am
(not by choice) and have first cup of coffee (black) at 6:00am. I’ve just discovered that if I have it
iced, with some unsweetened almond milk in it, I can easily make it to 1:00 – 2:00pm without getting
the growling stomach. Hot and black, that isn’t the case! I’m trying for 5 days of 18/6, and 2 days
of 16/8, and hope to see the same improvements in my skin that you have. It’s great to have a
specific goal to work toward. Very much appreciated!

Allie

Maggie, Gareth Southgate….☺

As stressful as it is to watch, there is a Brazilian family who moved in recently further down the road. I jyst wasas in the garden watering the plants and heard them shouting…’Come on, England’.
How very sweet. I just hope the result will not blow my BSD diet 😬.
xx

Hi, Marie! I don’t know if I’ve ever read your story in it’s entirety, so thank you for sharing it today.
I never tire of hearing about such accomplishments 🙂 How clever of you to sneak off for an
unscheduled holiday too! Delighted that you enjoyed it.

Allie

Hi, I understand how you feel about your fears for keeping the weight off long term, given the statistics on the number of people on a diet at any one time there must be lots of people who have gone through the yo yo dieting experiences in the past.
I think the best way forward to calm your fears is to gather more research into why this WoE works. Follow a number of links on the take a look at this thread into different sources of the latest research into how insulin controls fat stores.
Knowledge is power 🙂

1:1 is bad enough but we go to penalties….

I’m glad you had a wonderful day and mostly enjoyed it, Maggie. It the wasn’t good that would be a wasted time, wouldn’t it 🙂.
How often you go ‘cricketing’ ?

I’m just watching the football and am yelling at the telly…and ready to get a sore throat from the screaming…
Xxx

Family time is the most precious time, S-G. What a destination France must be for all of them!
Don’t forget to keep up with your laps in the pool, though 🙂 Lucky lady!!! A swim before bed would
be heaven to me…Very happy for you to have this luxury at your disposal…Enjoy!

An excellent view thank you Skinny 🤩

Thanks for your reply Marie you have done so well and great to see you are maintaining without too much difficulty. I am on my second 8 week cycle and am going to do what you did and keep going back to back until goal. I too am trying to get adventurous with food as I tend to have similar menus so need to try more things. I hope your 4lbs does not stay on to long!!Catherine
😀

Maggie,
Aaaahh, that’s the rules of cricket ?
That I could easily understand – looooool.
Then your burn is easily understood. Not wanting to leave and ‘observe’ the players is well worth the burns. I hope you had a good view 😀xx

Thanks kazzee have checked out the maintenance forum…not there yet though, got this final push to get there! kOKO!

I will be cheering you all on in your efforts. See you in August :):):) (that’s the only emoji I know how to do).

Thanks Allie xx

Skinny, you don’t know what you’re missing – 22 fit young men! England lost but it was a good match and pretty exciting 😁
Maggie

The 5:2 seems to be a strategy that some use, Mrs T. I’ve never tried it myself though. I can be so
easily pulled off track, and don’t really comprehend what “normal” eating would look like! I’ve just
found it easier over 14 months of maintenance to continue with the same basic plan. My body
recognizes 35g of carbs as my trigger point, and when I get careless, the scales let me know in no
uncertain terms, that that is the case! We all have the tools to bring it all back into alignment though,
so don’t worry 🙂

Sunshine,
It appears the atmospherical waves and the rest of universe was creating the ‘perfect storm’ which swept us all. We both understand each other’s point.

What I suggest is this (this is the conversation exchange with my 4-year old girl after any of her storms)
– I want to be your friend (My little girl)
– but I don’t want you to want to be my friend (me)
– why not (My little girl)
– because you already ARE my friend (me)
(A big hug)

Sunshine, if you take a holidays from here, enjoy it. I’ll miss your input your encouragement on my journey to 150. I want to promise you, next when we see I want you to be impressed when I report I’m 150 😀. Don’t stay too long. Looking forward to seeing you….preferably tomorrow 😀or soon after.
Sending all my love,
Skinny to be
xx

Hello Sunshine-girl
Thank you so much for your response. I haven’t checked blood sugar at all during the past two weeks but will do so now. I just wasn’t sure how quickly it would respond and didn’t want to be disappointed by testing too early.

Got family arriving on 30th for 2 weeks. Not much of a holiday for me as I do all the catering but I just love it anyway.

Wise and considered words, californiagirl and Verano! Sunshine, have a wonderful holiday! Where
are you off to this year? We do really look after our own, don’t we? That notion is very much in
keeping with how passionately I feel about this community, too 🙂

Before I take a brief break from the site just want to say, I answered this the other day and told someone that it would be quite slow (i.e. a couple of weeks) although I noticed a response immediately, it still took several weeks to get right down. The real answer from an interview by Prof Roy Taylor is, if you are sticking to the diet strictly then you should start to see results with 3 or 4 days. Still, if you are thinking of coming off or adjusting meds please do it slowly, slowly and hopefully with the backing of your doctor. Also, can you measure your daily bloods so you can see how you are going and keep an eye in case you go very low.

Skinny can I repeat, it was not you but several posts and a trend towards giving bad advice and yours just happened to be just above my comments about having reported a trend. Obviously it hit a nerve with you and you have reacted even though I didn’t report you. It wasn’t even about the water issue on its own, it was mainly about a growing trend for giving people with diabetes poor advice from people who are not diabetic and didn’t take this into consideration when giving their advice. If it is just a general view or a personal observation about any aspect of dieting or exercise or whatever that is none of my business. I gave an example of someone telling a diabetic it was okay to exercise on an empty stomach and to ignore any feelings of illness as they could work their way through it. That was the main thrust of my reporting. Not you, not specifically the water, not anyone in particular. Just a trend that has become noticeable.

I have been on this site and I have never reported any one person in particular. We have all reported the scams and the advertising and the fake sites – we look after our own here. But I have not reported anyone, just a general concern. So as for me lurking around and reporting people that would never happen. I would like to be around to give advice to people with diabetes who are struggling either with the condition or with how the diet works.

For now I will leave and let allie get on with running this thread. I will be back after the summer holiday and, dont worry Verano, I am never stopping doing the diet – my health depends on it.

Well saw my DN who was quite positive and seeing my bg results for past week come down out of double figures she’s fine with the woe. Whoop whoop

Hiwever, I have realised that although am eating via the principle of the diet I have been “picking” throughout the day or evening , here and there so it might be a small taste of butter or piece cheese and even an apple! Consequently my weight loss is slower than should be – hence- am restarting again!

Have just enjoyed the Skinny Cottage pie out of the recipe book – totally lush!!

I too am convinced I’ve screwed my metabolism up with years of yo yo dieting, plus I’m very short as well and have never had much muscle at all…so I’m very nervous that I won’t be able to increase by much before putting on…but I guess we’ll see. Increasing carbs seems very scary too as being around the 20g per day seems to work well for me…if you find you’re starting to put on do you just try doing 5:2 to get back in control?

Thanks Allie, the reverse dieting makes sense…and just gradually increasing by 50 calories sounds like a good way to do it. Better lose these final few pounds!

Skinny-to-be one of the things that I have learnt here over the years here is that the ‘written word ‘ is so often misinterpreted. There has been the odd poster who was just confrontational but the other 99.9% are here to learn, and give, and make friends and travel the road to better health together peacefully. I think maybe we should all take Californiagirl’s idea on board that ‘we should drink to thirst’.

Let’s just all carry on with our journey, giving, and learning but all reaching our own ‘perfect’ place with the help of our ‘friends’

Maggie,
I hope you will feel better soon and less sore.
It could never happen to me. 😀

I forgot my hat on many occasions before but I wouldn’t sit 6 hours watching the cricket because I do not understand one iota and the two sides running back and forth look like they dont know whether they’re coming or going to me.
That’s how big a cricket ignorant I am. I had the rules explained to me, repeatedly, but as you can see from above it’s more fun than serious to me.

I hope you’re team won or scored or whatever is the right word for being victorious as it could soften the burns.

Skinny to be
xx

I listened to this podcast today by Professor Longo, it had a lot of interesting snippets of information, there is a summary of the topics covered on the webpage.
https://www.kevinrose.com/single-post/valter-longo

…and just to add my yesterday’s liquid intake was out of ordinary hence I posted it..

Sunshine, exactly that was my point. I have always been proud I keep the daily recommended intake. I had to learn to listen when the body was saying it’s thirsty rather than hungry and it is not a myth people are dehydrated easily because from quite early age our parents would tell us to ‘Just be patient until we get home then you can have something to drink.’ And we learnt to be patient to a point we suppressed the thirst and exchanged for a label ‘HUNGRY and when we got thirsty then we ate thinking we were hungry.
A few years ago on BBC radio2 which also endorses MM had a Dr who explained that. It was also said that increasing our intake just by one glass this or that ailment could be prevented, an additional would lower the chances by a serious %. It was stressed that we can learn again to listen and distinguish what signals are hunger and what thirst.

Over the past 10+ years I gradually learnt to understand what is my thirst, my hunger and when the ‘Pigging out’ sign was on (although I never learnt to conquer the latter).
Yesterday, after i posted my comment it was all on the back of the above.
However, the response within minutes was that you’ve reported on the irresponsible advice people are dishing out and the encouragement and competition to see who can drink more.
Even if it was not, Sunshine, aimed at me as you stating it gives the impression your righteous anger and subsequent comments made me feel this way.

You are very knowledgeable with the ‘old-timers’ as you put a label on it. You explained the mechanics, the ins and outs, the scientific articles in layman terms and I commend upu for that.
Keeping it to yourself and watching from the distance what people are talking about and not participating but willing to report them… this is not Sunshine I met weeks ago and told myself ‘watch this one, she knows her stuff’.

If you decide to leave these forums, fair enough, that would be your decision and I would respect that but not having you here sharing your journey your ups and down would cause significantly more damage to us all.

With love,
Skinny to be
xx

Hi KrysiaD,

I am glad to have helped. Out of interest how much l-Carnatine are you taking. I am only taking 1g a day. I did experiment with taking 1.5gs and 2gs a day and found I was unbearably hot, so went back to 0.5g in a morning and the same in the late afternoon.

There was a mention about statins in this podcast that I listened to today that you may find interesting.
https://www.kevinrose.com/single-post/valter-longo

Sunshine-girl you have really got yourself back on track recently but please don’t fall by the wayside now. You have come so far, done so well and are progressing towards your ultimate goal …. no insulin. Krysia did and so can you, just keep on keeping on……

Hi, Mrs T! Maintenance is a bit unnerving for us all….In a broader sense, it’s a process of trial and
error for us all. Many of us believe in the process of “reverse dieting”, which consists of increasing
BSD friendly calories to 850 the first week, 900 the second week, and so on until you approach
your TDEE. There are plenty of online calculators to determine this, and are based on age, ht, wt.,
gender and daily energy expenditure. My experience was that I continued to lose another 8lbs ’til
I reached 1500 calories a day. This surprised me, because I thought I had long since damaged my
metabolism by years of yo-yo dieting. I increased carbs above 20g/day very slowly, and eventually
learned what my personal threshold was. We call this the “sweetspot” around here! There are plenty
of maintainers here to share our stories. You WILL find your way 🙂

Allie

Hi all,
I’m 4 1/2 pounds away from my goal weight…am currently in the middle of week 5 of the fast 800 diet. Although I’m not at my target yet, I’m starting to think about life after the 800cal restriction and I’m actually terrified. Is that normal? I’m scared because it’s been hard work to get to this point, and I don’t want to go back to how I was. What strategies should I use to try and increase the amount I eat without putting the weight back on? What has everybody else done? Is there a certain way of gradually increasing calories? Any advice would be appreciated…I get pretty hungry in the evenings on 800 calories so I’m looking forward to shedding that last few pounds and then getting to a maintenance phase…

Thank you Verano, that was my concern really, This is the blood sugar diet and, although anyone is welcome to participate they should not be offering advice on subjects they know nothing about, like exercise when they dont even bother to read a personal profile or previous posts to see if their advise might not be appropriate. It has become a free for all and in particular on the fasting, which I just ignore and on the ‘lets get out carbs lower and lower’ which I again ignore.

Skinny – no one said you drank it daily but drinking that amount at all is extremely dangerous and the tone was like it was something to be proud of –
I quote: I’ve always been proud of my drink regime but today I had nine (9) pint glasses of water with a bit of lemon squeeze for ‘colour’ four (4) mugs of herbal tea and three coffees. In total EIGHT litre of liquids. When going to the loo the pee was as clear as water. Was well pleased with myself. All those years of ensuring my body had enough fluids paid of.
All in all it’s been a good day.
All the best, friends.
Skinny to be

That was my point. I will be still around but I really want the moderators to look into some of these issues and make it clear on the homepage that some of us are actually ILL and this is a site for people with Blood Sugar issues and not a place to bandy around myths and false information.
I will be watching Verano, keep yourself well. At least we are knowledgeable enough not to get drawn in – as are a lot of us old timers.

That’s marvelous, Marxistfood! I guess your doctor is being cautious but even so, I’d be interested to hear what others with T2 think. You know this WOE works that’s for sure! Many congratulations to you both!
Kazzee

I hope you didn’t get burned Skinny! My scalp is still painful from spending 6 hours hatless at a cricket match on Sunday. Lesson learned 😡
Maggie

Marxistfood that is a great result. I have reversed my diabetes so know where you are coming from and how wonderful it feels to just be in ‘control’. In defence of GPs I think your doctor is only being responsible. It’s only seven weeks and this is a lifetime way of eating and it could be only too easy to think ….. ok, I’ve beaten diabetes, am drug free, so the odd ‘treat’ won’t do any harm! Now I’m not saying that would happen but …. metformin only reduces blood sugar by around 10% so it’s not really a ‘wonder’ drug which is why, with time, most people are prescribed more and more medication just to stand still.

So again, congratulations, but maybe be a little patient and just humour the doctor for another few months. After all continuing with the diet and getting it a little more ingrained into everyday life won’t do any harm and nor will the metformin in the short term. Best of luck!