Thanks for your helpful suggestions orchid.
I think when it comes to it I’ll probably just go for it. After all, it’s just one day in the whole of the rest of my life.
Just for once I really have faith that I (we) have been shown a way forward that’s both easy and beneficial. Too good to be true almost.
I find it hard to believe that I’m actually having to plan ways to increase my calorie intake – I feel as if I could just carry on, though I know that in the long term 800 kCals just ain’t enough.
I think MM deserves a medal or a knighthood. (And what about “Lord Taylor”? Other folk have had honours for far less.

Hi All

I have been looking on the internet for low carb recipes. Ive come across one thats a tuna and avocado sale – its looks delicious. However the woman who thought of it and posted it says not to use Mayo as the avocado does he same job and fats are not good for you!! Im not convinced of that. I have lent my kindle to my niece to read the BSD so cant find the info I am looking for. Am I right that I can use Mayo – obviously not a full jar – but it can be used because I need to be taking fats as well as protein and few carbs.

I only use light Mayo if that helps.

Thanks

Hi Bill
I have to admit I’m using Skyr natural yogurt. When I have finished the 2 tubs I have left I’m moving onto the Total Fage ones.
I’m doing the fluids ok, just water and the occasional fruit tea or sparkling water with a squeeze of lime.
I am still re-programming my brain that fat is good!! I have spent 30 years hearing low fat is the way to go……..obviously it wasn’t because it didn’t work!

Aha!! The Aussie revolution in healthy eating commences. Welcome to all the new BSDers. You won’t believe the difference this way of life makes to your health and energy levels.
I’ll add my voice to Bill, Lynne and Hashimoto, you won’t find any judgement on these forums. Just the friendliest most helpful and supportive folk around. We’ve all been where you are now, and struggled and laughed together through various issues, so have lots of useful tips that will help you. Keep posting as staying in touch is one of the best ways of maintaining your motivation. We love to celebrate along with you when you see your goals becoming reality. 🙂

Hi Bill
I’m sure that wasn’t a sexist and ageist image, and could just as well have been the young man with pink hair who said it!
😜 Penny

Hi Annie
that doesn’t look too bad, maybe a little fat light. Are you using full fat yoghurt ?
A little fat in the shake from the avacado and at dinner in the roasted veg.
Nothing at all wrong with the veggie choices. Are you managing your 2 to 3 litres of non sugary fluids per day ?
I think I would up my fat intake a little and force your digestion to work a bit harder for you.

Morning all, sounds like Easter was mixed! I didn’t have any Easter eggs or chocolate at all although I admit it helps that there are no children in the house as I don’t think I would be trusted with theirs!

Weigh in today tells me I have lost 13lbs in two weeks which I am thrilled with. I have relaxed a bit this week in terms of calories but have stayed as low carb as I can possibly do (just veg and beans, no bread, rice, pasta, cereal).

Keep up the good work everyone😀

Hi Smita, I was in the process of posting the ratatouille recipe on the recipe site – properly attributed to Rose Elliot, when I noticed that I had to submit it stating that is was all my own work and would not infringe anyone’s copyright. I believe I had attributed it correctly and it is now on the internet in the public domain, but decided not to take the risk. Pity – I took some nice photos!
The link is http://www.roseelliot.com/catalogue_item.php?catID=2033&prodID=10994. I add a tin of cannelloni beans to that, 10 minutes before the end. I also add 15g parmesan per person once served.
There are two variations – one juicy, replace the tomatoes with tinned tomatoes; the other spicy, replace the basil and add a 1-2 tsp of cumin seed and 1-2 of crushed coriander seeds.
I made the cumin seed one last night plus a tin of canellloni beans. Depending on the sizes of the different vegetables varies the calories and portions. I have split it into 6 and add parmesan for added protein. Calories per portion 168, protein 6g; fat 7.6g; carbs 20g. Add on 15g of parmesan if using, calories 58; protein 5g; fat 4g; carbs 58g.
It takes 15 minutes prep time and 30-40 minutes in the oven. Freezes well.

Wow DebCN you have a challenge on your hands! All that temptation at work !
If you can get past that you can do anything.
Follow the plan and shout if you need help, even you will lose the sweet tooth rather quickly although I wonder what will happen if, like me and some others, you actually end up finding the smell of sugar (it does have one) or the taste of the stuff, offensive.

Thank you Sunny and Bill for the replies.
I’ll put up yesterdays food and see if you think its balanced enough.
Breakfast ; Greek yogurt with seeds sprinkled on top and a handful of blueberries.
Lunch; I always have a nutribullet…love them. Yesterdays was swiss chard, 1/2 an avocado, watercress and a few raspberries.
Dinner; Baked salmon, kale and roasted veg. (pepper, aubergine, onion and courgette with lots of lemon juice, olive oil and chilli).
After writing it down ………..I’m not so sure!!

Hey Penny congratulations on becoming a veteran 🙂
For some reason I always thought you had been around longer than me, probably because your advice was so good from day 1
Great to see your results, hourglass figure well on the way 😉
Goa is somewhere I’ve always wanted to visit but the season there never seems to coincide with the times I can take off work, I’ll have to sort something out maybe next year.

Eggs make an excellent breakfast – reading you ingredients list, my suggestion would be a red pepper and spring onion frittata. Chop the pepper and onion and fry with a little oil or butter. Beat a couple of eggs and add to the pan. You could even add a little tuna as well.

Thank you for that…you’re right…..I will prove the doubters wrong!! And will use this forum for tips, advice and general motivation!!!

Ooh superb idea- will have the omelette. Yum…might have half the red pepper then stuff the other half with tuna later! Thanks hashimoto 😀👍🏻👋🏻

Hi everyone
I am over the line at last.
My info: 66 years old, sister and daughter T2 diabetic so I thought I’d better act before I was. I had a high BS reading about 7 years ago and did a diet that involved eating no fats (!) anyway it worked. But as my measurements recently were 42″42″42″ I thought I really need to get a waist or I’m in danger. Started at 11st6 ( I’m 5’1″ on a good day) now I’m 10st 8 so I’ve lost 12 lb. BMI gone from 30 to 27. 16 more pounds to lose to get to 25. Waist has reappeared! Now 36.5″
I’ve found I need to keep my carbs at 30 ish in order to lose, so I had a long plateau before I discovered this in week 5 or I would have lost more. I’m not complaining tho, the diet is so easy and successful. ( even with 2 weddings and 12 days in india!)
Now I haven’t made a decision about what to do, so I’m carrying on with 800 for now.
Re India: Goa is a beautiful fantastic place. People really lovely, except at the airport. I just didn’t eat the rice and bread, as usual. It was very hot, high 30s, there were monkeys in the trees around the terrace where we had breakfast, and cows wandering everywhere ( about a third the size of our cows). The beaches are beautiful, Palm fringed. Flowering trees everywhere. We went out in a little boat and saw Dolphins, landed on an island for a while. Went everywhere by auto rickshaw ( too hot to walk) which is alarming til you get used to it. Altogether highly recommend. I’d like to go again but at a less hot time. If anyone feels like going, we recommend the Hotel Oceanic at Palolem!
Penny

Hi Annie

Bill is right, it will happen. Plateaus come along to test us, but if you stick with it, it will come right and the weight will be tumbling again. You have made an excellent start and must be really pleased, so use that positive to spur you forward and keep to the plan. I know it’s frustrating when things all but stall – been there myself – but don’t be down hearted, it will happen. It might be worth checking you are getting enough fat in your diet and that the carbs are not creeping up, but essentially, on 800cals a day you can’t fail to see results for long.

Definitely keep us posted on your progress and shout out if you need anything, as Bill said, someone will respond with advice and support.

Hi Bill, Good work and good luck for today.

Don’t be disheartened Fran84, on this new eating regime it can take a few days for your body to adjust. It is normal to have hunger pangs in the early days and feel a bit rough, as this is your body rebelling against the lack of carbs.

It’s important to make sure you include enough fats in your meals, as this really does help to make you feel more satisfied and less hungry, keeping the pangs at bay for longer. Good options are full fat yogurt, cheese, oils and nuts. Don’t be scared in the first week to be a bit over the 800cals a day, if it helps with the hunger and if the pangs become unbearable, try a small cube of cheese, a few nuts or a few grams of yogurt. It is a big difference cutting down to a 1/3 of you previous diet, but you will adjust to it more quickly than you might think.

Stay strong and focussed on your goal. As soon as you start to see positive results, you will be spurred on to keep going. The BSD is making a huge difference to so many of us and you are going to be one of those people too!

Keep us posted on your progress and sing out if you need support, encouragement or advice – someone will respond.

Hi, I weigh every day too, same reason as Penny 🙂

Keetz, you could have eggs too, poached, boiled, fried, scrambled. You could have beans too. what about omelette with some red pepper and spring onion? 🙂

Hi All,

I started the BSD yesterday so I though I’d ‘tag’ along to see how it goes. Beverley’s story is similar to mine with a sweet tooth and a all or nothing mindset. I keep ‘falling off the wagon’ of diets then losing my motivation. Hopefully joining you guys will keep me strong. Oh, and I might need extra help – I am a cake designer…..surrounded by cake and cookies all day – ARGH!!!

I suppose I should add that I am breastfeeding a toddler, but as I want to wean (she is 2) my GP has given me the ok to stick to the 800.

Hi Bill,

I am cooking in olive oil. I had fetta cheese in a stuffed mushroom. Lots of vegies. I had some mozzarella in my eggs tonight. I have a small amount of full cream milk maybe 2 cups of tea during the day. I had a cup of miso soup about 15 minutes ago and I am feeling better now. I do eat fish so I might try that tomorrow. Thanks for replying 🙂

Oops thought this was a new recipe

I’ll get my coat

Fran, where is the fat coming from ?
If you don’t eat it of course you will feel hungry, you have to give your body something to burn now you are resticting the carbs.
Go full fat dairy on everything, get lots of veggies in there, especially above the ground veg and you should feel much better
I’m eating maybe a quarter of what I used to and I never feel hungry.

Welcome Annie
As you’re in the first couple of weeks, your body will still be adjusting and getting into fat burning mode, this will cause slightly sporadic results but you will soon be in the swing of things.
We are all individuals and lose weight at different rates so no one can predict how fast you will lose but you WILL lose weight if you stick to the plan.
The fact is, you have lost almost a stone in under a fortnight and that is a great achievement!
Keep doing what you’re doing, you seem to have it all together, and keep us informed of your progress as there is usually someone here with the answers to any problems you may encounter.

Well done, that’s great news! There are fewer carbs in milk when there is more fat in it!

I finally took the plunge and started yesterday. I am not diabetic but I am very overweight. I struggled a bit with hunger yesterday but today is shocking. My stomach is growling and I feel ill. I have eaten between 750-800 calories both days. I am vegetarian but I have eaten mushroom, eggs and quorn sausage both days. I did think the first week would be hard but I am reading all these posts about not being hungry and finding it so easy. Maybe it’s because I am eating less than 1/3 of what I ate before? I have about 40kg to lose. Has anyone else struggled with hunger? Does it get better? I am drinking 2+ litres of water.

Hello to everyone.
I am 48 years old and have reached a stage in my life where if I don’t do something now I never will.
I am very overweight and have been most of my life off and on.
I have high cholesterol but haven’t been checked for diabetes, but I’m sure it’s not far off!
I saw Dr Mosley on the Wright stuff and something triggered in my head…….maybe this was the one for me. I bought the book straight away and couldn’t put it down. Diets have failed in the past because everything was so slow and I gave up hope.
My weaknesses are bread, crisps and cheese.
My diet has always contained lots of veg(not so keen on fruit) as I love all veg. But my portion control was out of control!!
I don’t eat meat but eat a little fish every now and then.
Anyway I started BSD on the 13/3/16. My starting weight was 21-1. I lost 9lb in the first week and was so happy and motivated. I am now down to 19-12 and feeling good.
But in the last 5 days the weightloss has slowed and I only lost 2lb in the last 5 days. I know to expect this but just wanted other peoples experiences who have a lot to lose.
I feel really good although on occasion I am a little light headed….but it passes.
Anyway I just wanted to say hi……..I only found this forum yesterday and have spent many hours reading through all the posts! I thought I had nothing to lose (no pun intended!) by joining and sharing experiences with others and maybe sometimes offering and getting support.
I will update as I go along if that’s ok.
Thanks for reading. xx

Hi Inka
I recommend steaming your head twice a day and not eating cheese!
Re weighing. I weigh every day. Which michael also recommends somewhere. He says it helps. I used to hate waiting a whole week then being disappointed (WW) so I d rather know sooner and adjust things. I haven’t found daily fluctuations to be a problem.
Penny

I haven’t eaten yet today but am
Looking for ‘What can I Eat Today?’…well, breakfast at least!
Our fridge is still broken (day 2 but feels like forever) therefore no yoghurt etc. Two girls reluctant to get out of pj’s in a rush so no quick shop either. I have eggs, 1 red pepper & some spring onions, tinned stuff (tuna, beans, coconut milk?) frozen berries… any ideas? Girls about to have beans and boiled egg….

Hi again stringbreaker,
When I started to reply to your posting I intended to say something about your visit to Bath and got diverted into techie things 🙁 .
You could do what others have done and eat the fillings not the bread if you are really concerned! Stick to the ones high in protein so here are fewer extra carbs from the fillings.
Regardless, relax and I hope you can still enjoy it. I had a weekend of ‘institutional eating’ where there is no choice on a course a few weeks ago and was worried that it would undo all the good work I had done. I normally record my weight and blood sugar Friday and Tuesdays, but weight myself most days for encouragement. I avoided potatoes and pudding for the weekend, but other than that ate what was put in front of me. I did not weigh myself Monday, but on Tuesday my blood sugar was the same as Friday and likewise my weight. I had expected 3-4kg increase and BS through the roof – not logical I know, but it was still a worry.
I really envy you the trip to Bath, I have not been their for a couple of years but it is a lovely place to visit.

Wearing a top I’ve been too chubby for in goodness knows how long and having a waist again.

GO MISSSAY!!!

Hi Patsy – as I said, really it’s best to going for full fat yogurt rather than low fat, it’s much more satisfying and fat is important on the BSD. I know it’s counterintuitive and takes a while to get your head around, but it’s definitely worthwhile.

Hi Debbie – love the sound of the ‘porridge’. I have ordered some ‘rice’ so I’ll give that a go – will make a nice variation on my yogurt breakfasts.

Hi Stringbreaker,
The way you are doing it is a very sustainable approach for the long-term and clearly works. Most shop-bought food will have the information on the label, per 100g and you calculate to the amount you use eg tins of beans. For the rest, I use an application that I got many years ago for my PC. It comes fully loaded with data – the processed foods are US, but you can add in your own foods to it, including recipes.
I now have a good database of foods that I regularly use with the correct amounts plus all my own recipes. It also holds my personal data – weights, measurements, exercise taken, goals. There are phone apps that do similar things, but I have never used them. Despite (or because of) working in IT all my life, I do not trust my personal data in cloud-based apps – ie the data is not on your phone or PC, but on a server elsewhere. I prefer a my data on my PC, that I backup and manage! It is also available when the internet goes down 🙂 .
The apps on the phone are free to use, but read very carefully the small print – they may be able to use your data. The application I have is from X3M and is a one off fee ($49) that I paid over 10 years ago. I have had to get e new version a couple of times when I changed PC’s. I was not charged again as it is a perpetual licence and they helped me get my data reloaded from my back-up so I did not lose all the food-stuffs I had added. You can also get a trial version for free and see if you like it.
https://fitnessassistant.net/download
Others are using myfitnesspal on the phone or PC and seem to like it. Again – if data privacy worries you, check your data is stored on your PC not their cloud.
I you only want the carb amounts, then you can probably use any of these tools purely to query the food and manually work out the carbs for your meals, without storing any data. You will quickly get to know the ones to avoid or use in small quantities. I suspect, since you have very successfully managed since January with a ‘common sense’ approach, then this will work for you.
I am sure others can add in with the tools they use and how easy they have found to work with them.
Good luck with the next phase.

All my immediate family know. They’re surprised that I’ve stuck at it. Hubby’s even cut back – he’s not diabetic and just slightly overweight at 14st – but neither of us eat after 5pm and he’s cut right back on Mars bars!! Believe me I’ve been on many diets, most of which lasted a few days. My motivation for this one is to get my type 2 under better control. I’ll be 52 in October so want to get it sorted asap.

Hi Bully
so he expects you to fail !!
That’s all the motivation you should need, you know already how well this works so with a little application you have the perfect “I told you so” line in the palm of your hand.
If you feel yourself wobbling, shout out, someone will be here to give you support rather quickly

Staying positive about the diet is paramount but it gets much easier as you progress.
Soon all those sugar cravings will go and you, will get to the point where you are wondering why you used to eat that stuff.
It sounds too good to be true but it happens and it doesn’t take long.

Thanks Bill. 🙂

I have problems with perfectionism, my brain is conditioned to respond in a “it’s all or nothing” kind of way and I’m slowly but surely retraining it. I get confused and cranky when I’m hungry (or any kind of stress) and I look for sweet things to make me feel happy again. I put that down to desserts being the highlight of any meal and lollies being a reward for good behaviour – a couple of things endemic to the way I (and many others) were brought up. Sadly I brought the kids up the same way – our love of dessert was definitely passed on. Staying positive about the diet – which is where this forum is absolutely necessary for me – is key.

Tried this diet 8 weeks ago…..felt brilliant and spectacularly fell off the wagon week 4…..wine weakens my willpower!!! Forced myself back onto scales today as that horrible lethargic feeling back and waistbands tighter. Pleasantly surprised that still 4 kilos down, but determined to stay the course this time, as want to be lighter by May spring bank….off for weekend break on fri, but will make the right choices. Feeling a bit low….husband skinny and almost expects me to fail as I have tried so many diets!!!and 3 young kids so some positive words to set me off would be much appreciated!!!

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125704

Hi folks we are up to 109 signatures for our petition asking the NHS to encourage T2 diabetics to follow the low carb diet. Scroll to top of page 1 for more information.
Do we have any new members resident in the UK who would like to sign up? 🙂

Hey Cherrianne I have lovely long hair that hangs in ringlets too 🙂
Unfortunately it migrated from my head to my armpits a few years ago 🙁

Of course it did, you’re a woman, you have a lot to say 😀

Beverly there is no punishment here
If we fall off this cart there is a soft landing then we climb back aboard and carry on as if nothing happened.
Blips are blips, we’re all human but, whatever the slip ups, the end result is well worth it.

Hi stringbreaker, most people are aiming for 50g of carbs or less. I am just googling a list of foods I commonly eat and making an excel chart. I mostly use calorieking. remember things like fish, chicken, steak, bacon and ham are carb free. Eggs, cheese and FF yoghurt have very little in the way of carbs. Then veg which grows above ground is lower carb than veg which grows below ground.

Some people use apps that help with this but I don’t have a smart phone so can’t help you there 🙂

LOL

Hi lostrist51,
I am not diabetic as far as I know,, just doing this for weight and also for health generally. My blood sugar tests were not done when I was heaviest though.
I find I am satisfied, ( and a few almonds are quite filling if I need a snack) but still get the munchies for reasons other than hunger: Bored, avoiding something else, also a side effect of meds I am on, and generally obsessed with food. I used to bake a lot, and found it a bit of an emotional boost to create something. I just need to adjust my cooking to healthier stuff!

Great to see other Aussies here!

I’ve started a blog to track my progress and to record carbs/calories for what I eat: http://bsdfast800.blogspot.com.au/. It is mostly for me to learn the carb/calorific value of what I am eating so eventually I’ll just look at something and simply know. 🙂

I’m looking forward to some fast weight loss though right now I’m not 100% confident we’ll stick to the diet. I’m not going to punish myself if I fall off the bandwagon – I’m hoping to note and and problem solve the issue at the heart of it, come up with ways to circumvent the same situation arising again.

Oh yes SB
when I got the appointment they sent a form asking me to write down my future plans.
My answer took the form of “to ignore all current medical advice and to stay with the BSD until I’m med free and my diabetes is totally diet controlled” or words to that effect
That should get their attention 😀